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Abacus Market - FENTANYL and other Rules Clarification + Requests : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

Archetyp's refugees are welcome but we want to remind some of our rules. Specially those related to FENTANYL since Archetyp was a Fentanyl-friendly market but Abacus is NOT a fentanyl-friendly market.

The sale of FENTANYL or any other synthetic analogues (such as Nitazenes) which potency is equal or even stronger than fentanyl is TOTALLY FORBIDDEN on Abacus. The same applies for any product which contains those substances, it does NOT matter if you are explaining to your customers that the product contains them. It is still NOT allowed.

Regarding opioid you are NOT allowed to sell any pressed pills containing the previous substances. For example, if you are selling a pressed pill you MUST specify what is the active ingredient allowing the buyer to make an informed purchase. If you have some active listing related to products containing those substances you must delete them immediately if you want to continue selling on the market. If you ignore this warning and we detect that you are breaking the rules, your account will be permanently banned.

What about Fentanyl-exclusive vendors❓
If it is the only product you have, you must move your business somewhere else or we will close your vendor account.

What if I am not sure about my product composition❔
Vendors must test their products regularly, especially if you are receiving those products from a third party that did not verify its contents. If we find out your product contains Fent or other forbidden substances, we will take action against your account.

Message to fentanyl buyers❗
Fentanyl buyers, be aware that we will also ban any buyer looking for fentanyl on the market. Private listings or any sort of attempt to use Abacus to trade any of the mentioned substances, we will ban you and you will lose any money inside your account.

Advice to rest of buyers❕
Buyers should never trust blindly a vendor's word. First, always check the previous feedback for the product's you are trying to buy and the vendor's feedback, especially the recent feedback. If there is not any red flags, you can proceed with the order. Once you receive your product ,it is highly recommended to test your product using some home drug test kits or some drug testing services like Energy Control. If you find that you have received a dangerous product, contact the vendor and open a support ticket including the test results of the received product. Shortly, we hope to release some updates related to harm reduction too.



If there is any company or reseller who wants to offer some test kits in different locations (we do not have any problem if you do dropshipping if you take proper care of the orders). If someone is willing to help us with that task, we won't charge any fee for every sold kit and we will help with the promotion of the products to make sure that everyone buying any drug can have easy access to those products in an anonymous way and we would like to start different initiatives as providing some random free test kits for trusted buyers. If you are interested we need you to be commited, we will need some references from the community (we won't accept any random person) and we can accept an established vendor but he cannot mention his vendor name or forward any customer to his vendor's account.

We want to remind the community that Abacus implemented long time ago a system to forbid vendors from uploading listings with fentanyl name on it and other similar names.
We are updating our system to include more alternatives names vendors have been using.

But again, it is important for vendors to understand it is not allowed to sell fentanyl on Abacus, any alternative or similar dangerous substance or any other substance containing them, even if is minimum amount. It is not allowed on Abacus.
/u/newbieforever2018 P Pup Lover
4 points
4 weeks ago*

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Awards Received
Bag of Sand
1
Most of these rules make good sense but forbidding nuclear weapons seems a little bit over the top.
Kim Jong Un said that he will shop elsewhere to use one example of the repercussions
caused by that rule.


Thanks for the bag of sand kind benefactor!
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
4 weeks ago
Oh Newbs...
/u/newbieforever2018 P Pup Lover
1 points
4 weeks ago
So that attempt at humor bombed?
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
4 weeks ago
Woah now you are being punny
/u/newbieforever2018 P Pup Lover
1 points
4 weeks ago
I guess that I'll quit while I'm on dread.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
4 weeks ago
Quit while you are adread
/u/newbieforever2018 P Pup Lover
1 points
4 weeks ago
That was what I was shooting for but it 💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
4 weeks ago
Sub Par
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
4 weeks ago
Such a cheezzzyyy joke newbs jeez lmao
/u/newbieforever2018 P Pup Lover
1 points
4 weeks ago
🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀 True!
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
Love ya dude! lol
/u/tribalseed
3 points
4 weeks ago
love the transparency will be browsing your market much more now
/u/fatCat69
3 points
3 weeks ago
you'll lose the money deposited into your account yet at least 10 vendors sell fent. this is theft. instead of promoting harm reduction you exercise prohibition.
/u/cthulhuskittens
3 points
3 weeks ago
utterly retarded take. have fun playing whac a mole with fent vendors & being responsible for OD's when people think they're buying heroin & actually get something much stronger than they can handle. you'd think a drug market would realize prohibition doesn't work. do you really think LE is going to spare your ass bc of your "principled" efforts to steal vendors' coins for meeting a demand that will exist whether you fill it or not?
/u/BanjoKazooie
2 points
3 weeks ago
I said this above, lets be real a lot of vendors don't care about repercussions just money, fent will continue to be sold because there will always be a market of strong opioid addicts which will continue to grow and desperately seek the high they can no longer easily access. The more they corner fent the more they will hide in the shadows, I'm predicting in about 1-3 years theres going to be a huge DN wipeout of H buyers from fetty dealers selling under normal H listings to bypass the restrictions.
/u/cthulhuskittens
2 points
3 weeks ago
i'm wondering if that's the intention. certainly this market seems to think opiate users are some sort of lower form of life who can be lied to & deprived of their funds at will. that they call themselves "harm reduction minded" is just the icing on a bullshit cake
/u/BanjoKazooie
1 points
3 weeks ago
I honest to god just dont think many of the admins or vendors know about opioid use or addiction, I don't think they realise how quickly a tolerance builds and how desperate addicts will get to 'nod' again. That's why shit like Nitazines are being created to fill that void that opioid addicts get. I think the speed of tolerance, deadliness, and ability to be able to create more potent varients is why opioids will always be a difficult case, regardless as long as there are opioid addicts there will be a market for strong opioids like fent and nit, as long as theres a market there will be sellers, as long as there are sellers there will be a way to bypass regulation, surely the prohibition in 1920 is evident of this. The real issues that need to be addressed are not the purchesing of fent, it's the products being sold under misleading listings such as 'stamped M30 prezzies' or 'synthetic H' which make unaware buyers think they are buying H or oxy when they are actually buying fent, and the contamination of basically any drugs through inproper cleaning or using equipement for the weighing/storage of fent/nit/tranq with other drugs,
/u/SpeedScout
3 points
3 weeks ago
I feel as if the only way of having vendors not selling fentanyl is if you ban opioids in general. If you ban it, then how will they secretly list it? If you just ban Fentanyl, they'll just list it under another name. But the problem of banning opioids as well is that you may lose a large group of potential vendors. LE also won't care if your market doesn't sell fentanyl because it sells other dangerous and illegal services. Also, prohibition has proven not to work. I'm also against the sale of fentanyl, but unfortunately you won't be able to prevent it - that is the reality.
/u/WeeboPlacebo
2 points
3 weeks ago
Me wanting to stay away from Fentanyl is exactly why I will now never use this market for Opioids. Having that rule makes vendors hide it and market it differently because they don't want to be removed. And yes, "you'll remove them when you eventually find out" but after how many people die because they were expecting Heroin or something else, and had they been allowed to sell it, they'd put it in the listing? The vendors WILL sell fentanyl on your market, they will now simply stop telling people it's Fent, and for you guys to find out to remove them, someone not wanting Fent will have to order it to find out. You can say what you want about "everyone should test their drugs regardless" but regardless, this will cause ODs. This specific rule in itself will cause ODs and most likely deaths. That's just the reality of what's going to happen, and I think you guys know that. It also will not slow down LE from going after you guys. They go after the biggest market at the time, which you guys now are, regardless of what they sell.
/u/rambo473
2 points
3 weeks ago
Actually kind of a good take. At the very least it made me think.
/u/MrBacon420 P
1 points
4 weeks ago
What about "China White"
Any attempt to sell fentanyl or any forbidden substance using alternative names will result in your account getting banned.
/u/MrBacon420 P
1 points
4 weeks ago
Thank you for the clarification. I see this slang used often instead of the F word.
We will check that out. Thanks
/u/tribalseed
2 points
4 weeks ago
i always thought china white was just another name for heroin
/u/BanjoKazooie
2 points
3 weeks ago
It is, #4 heroin, its just become a code name to bypass fetty regulations, of course a lot of people don't know this which is why they order it and are at high risk of OD. China white is supposed to be like the most potent form of H so hopefully people take less of it which makes them slightly safer? Almost all things sold as 'pure china white' or 'synthetic heroin' is Fetty, real H will just be sold as #4
/u/BanjoKazooie
2 points
3 weeks ago
I will add though if you put a ban on the title 'china white' they will just rebrand it at synthetic #4 or just #4, the more you corner them the harder it will be to find them, they will deadass just blantently hide in the normal #3 and #4 listings, it'll wipe out a lot of your H buyers. Most people that do H enough will avoid 'China white' now with the knowledge of fent being cut in H even if they don't know it's a guise name, if it's sold as #4, guess the review system helps prevent that though idk.. I have a bad feeling there's about to be a massive sudden surge of DN deaths through fent hidden in H and prezzie listings.
/u/PoopyButthole69420
2 points
3 weeks ago
and when its harder to find them, its harder for people to avoid them as well. When fent is clearly labeled its pretty easy to avoid if thats not what you're after
/u/BanjoKazooie
1 points
3 weeks ago
I'm trying my hardest to convince admins a fetty ban will kill a bunch of opioid DN users but I don't seem to be getting far. I tried though XD
/u/maestrodutch P Abacus Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
thx for the explaning man ; )
/u/maestrodutch P Abacus Vendor
1 points
4 weeks ago
me to man
/u/defpotec
1 points
4 weeks ago
most people don't know this I've found even the vendors selling Heroin constantly calling it "China White" drives me nuts. The Abacus staff member that replied is the only time i can recall some one using it correctly.
/u/LD99 🍼
2 points
3 weeks ago
"China white" was originally a name for high potency heroin hydrochloride from The Golden Triangle in SE Asia. Its use for fentanyl products is only a modern invention.
/u/PoopyButthole69420
2 points
3 weeks ago
they do that because a lot of markets dont let you sell fent, but they still have fent they need to move and there are customers that want it, so they sell it as china white. This causes unsuspecting customers to overdose and die.

The abacus admins are really naive if they think prohibition is going to work. Isn't that why we're all here in the first place?
/u/maestrodutch P Abacus Vendor
1 points
4 weeks ago
so is there china white herrion or not?
/u/BanjoKazooie
1 points
3 weeks ago
Refer to my reply to Tribalseed XD
/u/needsomethingunique
1 points
2 weeks ago
Yes. and now theres no way to tell if you are getting legit china white (some of the best H out there) or literally the opposite of what i and others want....
/u/maestrodutch P Abacus Vendor
1 points
2 weeks ago
okay thx for the info and nah iam against Fentanyl
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
4 weeks ago*
It used to be. Back in the day (1970s) it was an extremely high quality "brand" of heroin hcl that originated out of Southeast Asia. Very potent, and very refined- a real fucking treat, from what I understand.

Now it means "total shit." Avoid at all costs, unless you're an end of the line chronic pain patient.

Edit: Good on Abacus for keeping the ban hammer on that shit. It's the CP of the drug world, and all it does it fuck up good dope.
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
3 weeks ago
Awesome... Should probably include:
china
china white
synthetic heroin
F1000 or any kind of multiplier FxXXX
/u/jackpeyton
1 points
4 weeks ago
[removed]
/u/zYOez9o1
1 points
4 weeks ago
i got some of that recently and tested it, no F or xylazine
/u/BanjoKazooie
1 points
3 weeks ago
Be careful of Nitazines too, I'm not sure if there are test strips for it or not but mid last year it started going ham in my country and wiped out so many people, I refuse to believe they would cut a stimulant like coke with a depressant thats more potent than Fentanyl because why, so they are just being careless and contaminating shit, but it will be hidden and possibly cut in H too, just something to be mindful of.
/u/Silent_Cal P
1 points
4 weeks ago
I say your market, your rules. Good for you being up front about it all.
/u/AsterixundObelix
1 points
4 weeks ago
is the vendor bond every month to pay or is it lifetime
1 time pay only
/u/AsterixundObelix
1 points
4 weeks ago
Thx for letting me know bro
/u/AsterixundObelix
1 points
4 weeks ago
And how many % does the market take per trade?
on market navigate to "start selling" or /upgrade and read the requirements,
any question regarding current % , open support ticket and ask market mod to answer your question
/u/headshotnegativity
1 points
4 weeks ago
much appreciated
/u/217party
1 points
4 weeks ago
carfentinel is going crazy right now
/u/Ghostantain
1 points
4 weeks ago
Hello guys am a newbie looking forward to have a better life. Please can i get a legit vendor to buy a cc from and a vendor who would be willing to teach me everything about cc. Please am just trying to eat don't scam me please.
/u/Dutchexcellenti Abacus Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
I LOVE ABACUS!
/u/RobGreen2323
1 points
3 weeks ago
hi abacus can u check your dm from me
/u/PotionsNPortals Abacus Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
We really like the way you guys do business so far. Pleased to be here. We accept all rules. :) Screw that garbage anyway! I wish more fentanyl addicts knew about Kratom.
/u/KingCapuletTAS 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
Guys this is bullshit some people are on subby tex injection and can only feel F for 15 mins your a drug market you don't have morals and we should be allowed to purchase what we need hundres of people overdose on your HEROIN whats the difference
/u/BlackPain 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
Oxycodone? I am having troubles to access the market, any help?
/u/Tre
0 points
4 weeks ago
I actually switched over to abacus to support you guys after Arche's fall, but this rule is extremely gay.

1) BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT, YOU WILL STILL BE PROSECUTED AS IF YOU ALLOWED THE SALE OF FENTANYL ON YOUR MARKET. EVEN IF YOU HAD NO IDEA, EVEN IF IT WAS ONLY ONE VENDOR. The penalties will be the same for you

2) This actually hurt's buyers more than it helps them regardless if you realize it or not.

3) A market that allows Fraud but not a specific drug, is no free market at all.

I understand the reasoning behind your decision and fully support your right to run your market as you see fit however, it is ridiculous to let the media stigmatize fentanyl as "poison" or some dangerous drug. Remember the crack epidemic during the 80's & 90's ? Cocaine was fine but AS SOON as you turned it into crack cocaine, it was taboo. "dangerous" "1000x more potent" and "deadly" ... Same with the "heroin epidemic" during that time frame. The government and media will ALWAYS target some new dangerous drug. Markets are supposed to support freedom and free trade. Not regulate sales or items, other than weapons, terrorism, CP and things of that nature. Fentanyl does not fall into any of those categories and it's ridiculous for a market to force it into a "forbidden" category.
/u/pedervictorious
1 points
4 weeks ago
Bro some us can ONLY get high off fetty. It's called personal responsibility. Don't be a fucking tool.
/u/stretchedgang
2 points
4 weeks ago
Can anyone lmk where they getting fetty now cuz I'm rly not tryna have to buy heroin or m30s
/u/Scottyvegas99
1 points
4 weeks ago
traplordatlantic on abacus, or hotboydopesquad via DD threema is what im using now
/u/beanybaby
1 points
2 weeks ago
hey dude did your pack from hot boy ever land? I can't find anyone on dread confirming they have purchased from them successfully from a DD despite a lot of people saying they were going to do it. thanks for the updates
/u/Scottyvegas99
2 points
2 weeks ago
yes it was shipped last friday and i got it saturday w express..i know of a few other people that got it also..deff legit and same day shipping..opsec is top notch..he got all new product yesterday so cant speak for quality on them
/u/Tre
1 points
4 weeks ago
Which is exactly why i will no longer support this market and encourage any and everyone to avoid it. They are not saving lives or helping anyone, in fact quite the opposite. If a vendor clearly states the product is "fentanyl" and only for those with extreme tolerances, let them sell it.

I don't know what led abacus to come to this decision but it is a terrible one that i strongly disagree with. Abacus should support free trade and should not censor vendors based on their own bias towards a certain drug. Markets that engage in such behavior are no free markets at all.
/u/jake0126
3 points
4 weeks ago
exactly. now us fentanyl users are fucked. Archetyp having a actual "fenantyl" section is better then having it hidden in other drugs like heroin, because no matter how many rules you think you have, vendors WILL put fenanyl in there listings, if they tell the customer or not.
/u/theloop44
1 points
4 weeks ago
well said. but where to?

also i am trying to remember this one vendor on archetyp's name. not fettygod but same type of stuff. had a couple hundred sales....
/u/jake0126
1 points
4 weeks ago
premierpack?
/u/theloop44
1 points
4 weeks ago
traplordatlantic!
/u/Sherlocks
1 points
4 weeks ago
i do agree on most of your points but at the end yes market have to save their asses
/u/Tre
4 points
4 weeks ago
And i get that but the fact of the matter is that ship has long sailed for them. If LE can prove they even facilitated one single sale of the forbidden F word, they will be help just as accountable, maybe they fail to realize that or maybe they think this will help their case. Who knows, but its a ridiculous rule that gives them an excuse to rob vendors and customers in the name of "harm reduction"
/u/osinator
0 points
4 weeks ago
Appreciate this move. It's good to see a market stepping up with clear harm reduction policies. Fentanyl and its analogues have caused enough damage, and banning them outright is the right call. Transparency, safety, and accountability help everyone in the long run — vendors, buyers, and the scene as a whole. Respect to Abacus for drawing a line and enforcing it.
/u/AbraCadaver P
1 points
2 weeks ago
yeah cause prohibition has worked so well in the past.....
/u/jedi_knight_errant
-1 points
4 weeks ago
This is so good and something that bothered me heavily about Arch. The very first time I even heard of fent was around 2017-18 on the news some locals died chewing on fent patches that were medical apparently. Slow release and these tards were using them like airheads, now all that's in the head is air.
Thank you for being a moral market!
/u/slabsofdabs420
1 points
4 weeks ago
[removed by moderators]
/u/jedi_knight_errant
1 points
4 weeks ago
Lol I simply said I 💬 no markets should allow Fent and also mentioned the first time I've heard of fent. Lemme know how many deaths are attributed to it currently, I'm walking to the store for exercise and buy a sugar free beverage.
But remember, you'll be alright. ✌️