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Adderall buyer safety guide for DNM : Adderall | Torhoo darknet markets

Due to the high number of counterfeit pills being sold as pharma, I have decided to write up a buyers guide to hopefully alleviate any issues.

1) Reagent testing is the easiest and quickest way to determine if your pills are counterfeit. Use them for quickly testing any adulterants. Marquis will test if they are in the amphetamines family and a Simons afterwards tests for a secondary amine as in methamphetamine.

**Picture for reference https://linx.li/s/areagents.png

Marquis - amphetamine reactions
Adderall and amphetamine sulfate will have a red/orange reaction.
Methamphetamine and sugar will have a dark red/brown reaction.


Simons - secondary amine reaction
After confirming amphetamines with marquis, Simons will likely determine if the pill contains methamphetamine. Adderall will not never have a reaction(turning blue). If it turns blue, it is likely meth. A pill with only amphetamine sulfate will not have a reaction to simons either, but it is more common to be meth due to pricing.

Cheapest source to get both reagents: https://elevationchemicals.com/collections/reagent-kit-combos/products/marquis-and-simons-reagent-testing-kit-combo

2) AD 30 pills sold by Shire are likely all pressed pills. Shire has discontinued these and are focused on Adderall XR and Vyvanse now. These AD30 pills have been confirmed to contain methamphetamine and caffeine from EcstasyData's lab test sent by a user on Dread. https://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=7511

3) Vendor offering bulk (30-100+ pharmaceutical pill orders) for a low price, it is most likely counterfeit or a scam. Realistically, sales of 1-30 pills per order comes from pharmaceutical sources due to high regulations of controlled substances. Pharmacies are required to heavily document any of these drugs by federal law. Any bulk sellers for pharmaceuticals will be a red flag.


4) Vendor feedback being padded in same gaps of time period or writing style indicates vendor is buying their own feedback. Try to check for reviews on Dread rather relying on vendor feedback alone. Many scam vendors own other accounts using the same pills. This does not affect Adderall markets by itself.

5) Use a scale and check if there is ~5%+ difference between pills. Pharma pills should weigh close to each other.
Teva B974 30 MG IR - .350-.368 grams
(Big thanks to https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlgxUm9hWE5KYzFSb1pWZG9lUT09# for data below)
Alvogen A 80 30 MG IR - .355-.360 grams
Sandoz | E 404 30 MG IR - .340-345 grams
Aurolife | U 31 IR 30 MG IR - .298-.301 grams
EpicPharma | E 345 30 MG IR - .348 grams
**Seeking data on more pills from the community

6) Adderall has a distinct sweet taste from amphetamine salts and should break apart hard with a snapping sound. Sometimes sugar is added to the pill to replicate its taste. If the pill tastes bitter or crumbles apart easily, it's a sign it might be pressed with meth. This tip is better suited for veteran users experienced in Adderall. Note: Only for Adderall mainly and does not apply to Dexedrine/Dextroamphetamine Sulfate pills. (They have no taste)

7) Check on EcstasyData if there are any similar looking pills matching the description. Not the most accurate method, but useful if someone sent the same pill recently.


Feel free to PM me for any directions on how to start reagent testing or other related harm reduction questions.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
6 years ago
It's really good of you to do this work, thank for your efforts.
Thank you. I am open to any other suggestions on adding to this guide!
/u/westcoca
2 points
6 years ago
as a vendor i can tell its realy hard to get pharmaceutical pills the people that sell these are basicly people stealing them
Agreed. The most we can do is spread harm reduction tactics and awareness. The demand for pharmaceutical Adderall simply cannot meet DNM's supply. We do not mind presses as long as they are labeled such. Pills advertised as pharmaceutical but are presses are the most concerning.
/u/westcoca
2 points
6 years ago
that is fucking dangerous man... why would a vendor give something out that can kill for a couple hunderd euro's... i know i sell cocaine and its bad to but its pure i always tell my customers to know what they doing becouse cocaine can also be dangerous
/u/grobbelaars
1 points
5 years ago
always better to be safe than sorry, thank you for this
/u/nzt48givesyouwings
1 points
5 years ago
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nzt48givesyouwings here. I've got you, dread fam. 100% authentic goodies only :)

Find me on Cryptonia, Apollon, or Berlusconi since Empire refuses to allow longtime trusted vendors FE permissions and I've seen enough exit scams to make me jaded :)

Please do me a favor and read standard buyer's guides before ordering on any DNM. The only package I've ever had go missing was from a buyer who put the package in his old roommate's name. She had mail forwarding on and guess who got the package (facepalm). Always use the name of someone actually living at the residence.

Order with confidence :)
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/u/12StepsAhead
1 points
5 years ago
Hi All,

Wanted to say awesome forum you guys are doing and thank you for providing knowledge that everyone in this should be aware of...

Never saw pressed ads in my life till today when my buddy gave me 2 pressed 30mg Teva IR. These were obviously pressed because there were 3x thicker then REAL one.

My question is anyone know if pressing Tevas are ususally thicker or is this a distinct characteristic which someone may be able to guide me/educate me on where they came from and what is in them. Friend said the did indeed work, so there is a ingredient in them causing a similar effect. Any help and direction would help. Im in U.S. if that helps too.
Presses are usually thicker and heavier but they can always adjust the thickness with their machine. Most commonly used drug in counterfeit Adderall is meth and sometimes caffeine added.

One gram of meth is ~$10-20 in bulk and pressing one pill is maybe 20-25 mg or even less with caffeine added. You can do the math.
/u/12StepsAhead
1 points
5 years ago
I thought meth was much more at least on streets.... Grams out here are $90 but again you said bulk... Where do or better yet how do you find a press kit and have the shape and imprints you want?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
4 years ago*
i just bought a gram for 20... but .1 sells for 10 so.... but i had some connects took some looking. also 20-25mg of meth is too strong for an adderall pill ( im prettty sure i came here to learn about adderall as i have'nt taken it but enjoy methylphenidate and buy ephedrine every once and a while. ) but yeah id say it takes mores like 5mg in a pill to give and adderrall effect abd this is based of alot of meth use,
/u/Mechaniker
1 points
5 years ago
Any good Adderall Vendors based in Europe?
/u/amanstein
1 points
5 years ago
opposite. USA, Europe predominately has ritalin IR
/u/MissSmartDrug Vendor
1 points
5 years ago
We're a group of frends that have pooled our personal scripts and have been vendors for a few years... we're verified with over 800+ Sales and 4.9/5 stars... check us out on Cryptonia... we've had plenty of customers that have tested our adderall with kits to prove we have the real things. Vendor name MrsSmartDrug on Cryptonia (make sure you use the CAPS for the M,S, & D when searching lol).

We have limited monthly supplies and always sell out but we are always happy to try and help.
/u/funky_monkey
1 points
5 years ago
Are extended-release pills more likely to be genuine?

Since the XR capsules seem rather hard to fake, I've just assumed that as a given for a while now. I'm hoping that someone with more experience can tell me whether I'm just being naïve.
There have been no reports of counterfeit Adderall XR as far as I know and yes, it is my personal belief they are more likely to be genuine and agree with you. Producing XR beads are much more expensive and the extended effects harder to imitate. From a cost/profit standpoint, it doesn't make too much sense.
/u/amanstein
1 points
5 years ago
I hve been seeing some XR capsules be counterfeit or adultered. twice actually....I have seen people sell capsules with less mg than advertised, and some vendors i have seen them marketed as from Pharmacy...but like not manufactured and tested. But agree with moderator.....MUCH harder to replicate and much easier to tell they are suspect.
/u/blankroads
1 points
5 years ago
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Reagents are perfectly fine and legal to order. They're even used in chemistry classes. I'd assume authorities watch out for chemicals that indicate drug manufacturing more so.
/u/RUSH
1 points
5 years ago*
Adderall has a distinct sweet taste from amphetamine salts

Not 100%. The sweetness level depends on the filler the manufacturer uses. Check DailyMed for ingredients list. Big Tevas use saccharin for taste. Generics with the least fillers have a mostly bitter taste with a strange mouth sensation. I'll quote PubChem for one salt in Adderall.
Amphetamine sulfate is a white crystalline powder. Solution in water has a pH of 5-6. Odorless. Slightly bitter taste followed by a sensation of numbness. May be sensitive to light.
/u/Harper7
1 points
5 years ago
If I have about 50 15mg pills from a perscription filled at a proper pharmacy that I woudl like to sell. is it worth it? what marketplace is best to use? it won't be a normal business for me, just a one tiem thing to get rid of these.
/u/amanstein
1 points
5 years ago
I have similar quantity from my pharamcy of 60 IR 30 XR (20mg and 25mg, respectfully). Wickr me @Amanstein and we can talk. We can post resolution on here if you'd like.
/u/dietcoke421
1 points
4 years ago
E 505 20 MG generics i just got in weigh .245g each. All four of them weigh exactly the same. Unable to confirm their authenticity, but they break cleanly and taste sweet. Paid a shit ton for them so I reckon theyre legitimate.
/u/Tgbtgb123
1 points
4 years ago
thank you. this is amazing. is the link to the reagents you kindly explained how to use here still the best source for them b/c i see this post is a year old? this is a god send b/c its also short enough and straight to the point that my adhd allows a full read lol
/u/Tgbtgb123
2 points
4 years ago
also, here goes the dumbest question you've all probably seen asked, but you all seem kind enough and knowledgeable enough for me to ask. i spend hours researching this but never really get concrete answers so maybe someone here can educate me. is adderall less detrimental to health than meth? what are the health effects of meth short and long term and how much worse are pressed pills for you than adderall? thank you very much in advance.
/u/xxpuffly1
1 points
4 years ago
I am wondering the same, following to see responses
I have heard good things about Desoxyn (pharmaceutical meth) for ADHD, however most of the presses you receive will most likely be meth cut with other chemicals and inconsistent quality. Pills from regulated markets will always be a safer alternative.

The link is simply the cheapest to source reagents during that time. Any shop with marquis and simons reagents will do.
/u/Tgbtgb123
1 points
4 years ago*
thanks very much for your reply. and by regulated markets, you dont mean dark web markets right? u mean actual pharmacies? bc ive been diagnosed with adhd since i was a child. this is the sole reason im even on here. doctors increase ur dose bc they know it doesnt work after a while on the same dose bc of tolerance and then all of a sudden they get to a "limit dose" and stop increasing and it stops working just as it has at every other dose after a few months/years and this is the only alternative to continue my own treatment so i can function effectively. the problem is i cant afford real adderall on here, i am still a student. so i have to opt for pressed pills, and i hope i am not killing myself just to find a way to focus and live a normal life.
/u/hard8way
1 points
4 years ago
Check out my WHM listing. I have one lot of 10x 20mg TEVA ADDERALL left from my personal monthly script. Reasonably priced at $129 with FREE USPS Priority Shipping. I ship AND drop within 1 business day. Once this lot is sold it will be late November before I can fill (and list) again.

Listing title:
10x 20mg Adderall IR (b973) FREE USPS Priority Shipped Dropped w/n 1 biz day

oldmandc3po
/u/pablo88
1 points
4 years ago
hey im new to DNM and i've been wanting to order concerta as i really need it since i moved to another country that it's not available and i can't get hold of it, now i wanted to know how safe is it to order it if the vendor im ordering from is claiming top stealth. also if it gets caught by custom will i be caught too since it has my name? and will i be in trouble? thanks!
/u/sour_skittles135
1 points
4 years ago
really good information. appreciate it.
$$$2 addys pure amphetamine sulfate 2$$

check me out on WHM!

sportshack! new vendor promo b974 addy 30s for 2 bucks! pure amphetamine. usa to usa
/u/Ineedhelp
0 points
6 years ago
Any good sellers to check out good price and product
/u/ItsMeTommy
1 points
6 years ago
good info regardless but i was hoping the same thing. if anyone has recommendations
/u/tippingtiger
1 points
6 years ago
I sell dexamphetamine on NM and Empire. I'm a new seller (which is why I have only one measly review so far), but the pills are authentic. A+ packaging. A+ stealth. Quick delivery. I guarantee you'll be happy with your purchase :)
/u/stonedthrowaway16
1 points
5 years ago
Would you consider moving to Cryptonia? :) I would love to order from you however I've been hearing bad things about Empire's security and such for a while.
/u/MissSmartDrug Vendor
1 points
5 years ago
We are on Cryptonia ...we are Verified vendor with over 800+ sales and 4.9/5 star ratings...we're a group of friends that are pool our personal scripts. We sell as low as $5/pill for pure Dextroamphetamine /Dexedrine... check us out. MrsSmartDrug on cryptonia...hope we can help! :-)