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Start a dispute and demand an answer, this is the only way to force him to respond.

Has the order been seized? Did it ever go out? Why aren't we being responded to?

This has gone from a minor inconvenience to an absolute pain in the ass with OPSEC implications.

Part of me is fearful that his packs got seized in that "blitz" (not really a blitz) that people were complaining about last week and instead of being transparent he's hoping to reship without telling anyone. Why else radio silence?

This vendor sure knows how to make a first impression...
/u/Australia
3 points
2 years ago
We have been checking and we can confirm vendor was sending orders at least on 15th June. We have also confirmed today they withdrew a small amount of BTC. Won't say amount for privacy concerns.
They have lot of orders in pending, last day they marked an order as shipped was 14th June. And from 14th june they have accepted lot of orders but many of them getting canceled because they are not marking them as shipped.
So it is not an exit scam

I remember (correct me if I am wrong) that this vendor used to have (or have) very good quality stuff but very limited quantities and that time to time they will just go on vacation mode.
So well, we can confirm the vendor does not seems arrested, but I believe this vendor is taking more orders than what they can actually take care of. Looks like a small team and they are getting lot of orders lately, too much I would say. I believe vendors should not accept more than what they can handle, just for respect to buyers and also to let opportunities to other vendors as well.

What's next? we have send them a message asking them to please let us know what is going on. And to please update this post on dread if possible. We have disabled their withdrawals too in case they would decide to accept all their pending orders.

By the way, /u/dontlaugh /u/SteveIrwin Does this vendor has dread account?
/u/koolkeith3000
1 points
2 years ago
Love this! Love Australia! Has definitely put my mind at ease, albeit only slightly.
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks for the update. So if I'm one of the ones that were shipped and he's withdrawn the money - I can still get a refund through the dispute right? Please let us know if he replies.
/u/nxdm
1 points
2 years ago*
So there's a few of us marked shipped the week of the 12th June and none of us have received our orders. That is not a "taking on more than they can handle" issue. Rather a "it never shipped" or "it was all seized" issue. No communication at all either.

Not a single order either delivered, shipped or fulfilled from the ~11th. Just because he was a reliable and reputable vendor doesn't mean he still is. So much BS
/u/Bagdaddy
1 points
2 years ago
I'm starting to think they were never shipped to be honest, given he has been logging in and accepting orders I'd say seizure is very unlikely. My guess is he was waiting on stock that for one reason or another (delay, didn't have enough to pay etc) didn't come through so he marked these as shipped either hoping the stock would come and he could send a few days later, or that people would just trust him and let escrow expire then he'd have the funds to buy more stock and ship it, Ponzi scheme style. Still no reply to any of my 5 messages over the week, luckily I extended escrow on Monday and lodged a dispute yesterday so my funds are at least still in escrow. What a total fuck around, honestly.
/u/Bagdaddy
1 points
2 years ago
Either that or his packer fucked him over and did a runner
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
It doesn't make sense that he's holding out now that people are putting disputes in, because the money is freezing. Very strange.
/u/Bagdaddy
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah I'm really stumped by it all tbh, especially as he was trying to build rep and ramp up quantity. Surely he should have been in damage control from the start of the week explaining the situation, not ignoring messages from at least 5 people with the exact same issue and prob another 10 we don't even know about
/u/nxdm
1 points
2 years ago
I honestly completely agree they were never shipped and they're counting on some FE orders or escrow expired.

Don't like the fact it's being sugar-coated and we're being fed shit. Call it how it is and don't give us false reassurance. Interesting to see what will happen to our funds in escrow and where the mods will side.

FYI I've had 3 orders arrive this week and 1 on the way from other vendors. Clearly it's not an us issue.
/u/Bagdaddy
2 points
2 years ago
Just checked his vendor page and he's posted this in the last hour and gone on vacation:

Update Tuesday 22nd June:

Since our price drops we have had a big big big influx of orders. Our Packing team (who also do the messages) have been working around the clock, but its only fair for us to go into vaction mode for the time being until all outstanding orders are delivered so we can fix up these 10DD fuck arounds. There is still over 100+ unread messages on our account as well, once everything is resolved we will reopen the store so we can get back to shorter delivery periods as this is not what we are about.

If there are still any outstanding issues by early next week we will personally resolve them. Just dont stress if you havent received or heard back yet, I can assure each and every one of you that each order will be completed and we will return to our old standard. You are more than just a number to us. Apolgies, once again

SB


Personally I think that's a load of shit, I can't see how that alleged bottleneck supposedly affects orders that were apparently 'sent' last Wednesday. I don't think he had the stock, and he's either just got it and is trying to cover his ass, or still doesn't have it and is hoping people will keep waiting
/u/nxdm
1 points
2 years ago*
Exactly. Orders not being marked as shipped and being auto cancelled can be palmed off as a bottleneck. This can't be said when it's marked shipped 10 days ago. Shipped means product in hand, packaged and on its way.

I just want what I paid for or a refund if you can't fulfil. I won't even be upset if you don't have the stock and can't fulfil, I get it, shit happens.

At least we're no longer ghosted and hopefully will be resolved in the next week or so
/u/venomrep234
1 points
2 years ago
shit happens, i think we as buyers all get that. but fuck going radio silent like that just increases FUD. communication goes a long way however i am glad there is at least an update there.
/u/nxdm
2 points
2 years ago
In the same situation and have also opened a dispute.
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
2 points
2 years ago
Ok so still nothing has arrived, but he definitely logged in today within the last 4 hours. That seems really odd.

Out of all the scenarios the only thing I can really think that makes sense is that he's been compromised. It doesn't seem to be an exit scam because he hasn't accepted new orders for a few days despite logging in.

But WHYYYY would he be logging in? Has he left his login details on a piece of paper next to his PC and the police are logging in there for some reason?

Can anyone else think of another explanation?
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
2 years ago
someone may have his market log in without his pgp. depending on if they have 2fa set up.

/u/TTTZ or /u/Australia can you offer any insight to advise why the vendor would be logging in to the market but not doing anything as far as orders/messages go?

sounds pretty suspect and worth investigating if multiple reports.
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/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
1 points
2 years ago
2FA is active on the account
/u/sportsbetdispute 📢
2 points
2 years ago
It seems like Sportsbet is trying to justify this by saying they were overloaded with orders.

Let me just say that is fucking pathetic.

If you can't handle the orders don't fucking accept them. This vendor has toyed with all of us for almost 2 weeks.

Give every customer exactly what they have requested in the dispute. Sportsbet should have to live with the consequences of his actions. Fair is fair.

If Abacus side with Sportsbet it will be the last time I use that market.

/u/Australia /u/TTTz
/u/AndyHug
1 points
2 years ago
You are pathetic, IMO. This is not fucking Bunnings you are buying from.
How about giving a new vendor a chance to deal with issues and improve their service?
I you don't like them go and and get fucked in the ass by inc with their next day delivery of garbage coke. They shipped great gear in the first couple of weeks to get the favorable reviews and now they are shipping just pure garbage.
But hey , I don't have any proof just my personal experience. I prefer a vendor with consistently good product and low prices over all these other
Abacus vendors promising 90% coke but send you rubbish every time.....
/u/sportsbetdispute 📢
1 points
2 years ago
I agree that Inc and PureAU's coke is shit but I've never once had service this bad from anyone legal or illegal. Holding money for 2 weeks while logging in and not responding? Pathetic.
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
How's about don't mark it as shipped before you ship it? Fuck that I want my money back.
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah I'm getting pretty pissed off now too. So did you start a dispute? Did he reply?
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
This is on his BIO:
Update Tuesday 13th June:

Huge influx of orders over the past few days. Monday was a public holiday in NSW so there was no shipping. All orders will be on their way by Wednesday, and messages will be responded to in due course.
Thanks again for supporting Sportsbet.


Anyone actually had a message responded to? I just opened a dispute.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
Not even accepting orders , been pending for days even though been online daily 🙄. Not what u want from a new upcoming vendor ... radio silence just pisses people right off
/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
1 points
2 years ago
Will be watching....
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
Whats the usual dispute process? Obviously if they don't reply in 48 hours is it a full refund? But what if they do reply and say it just hasn't been shipped or it was shipped a lot later than they indicated?

If it turns out they shipped it today and not 6 days ago like they indicated, would you enforce any refund?
/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
1 points
2 years ago
That wold be taken up by creating a ticket on the Market
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
I've already raised a dispute. Is a ticket something different to this? Just curious what to expect based on his next moves.
/u/venomrep234
1 points
2 years ago
man.......I was going to make this post as well but looks like you beat me to it. He was great before when i grabbed something else off him but this time his been quiet. its been almost a week since he marked shipped (express). Nothings come in tho
/u/Hazchem
1 points
2 years ago
Placed an order on Sunday which was accepted but has not been marked as shipped. Can an order be cancelled at this stage or do I need to wait until it auto cancels or he marks it as shipped?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
got to wait
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
agreed not a good sign? compromised?
/u/toomanyracks
1 points
2 years ago
I think he definitely has some sort of problem at the moment, could maybe be compromised, will have to wait and see.
/u/OzmosisAUS
1 points
2 years ago
I bought 2 G from him with no issue. Lacked response at first but backed it up with some freebies and 3 day delivery. Looks like he has run into some dramas. Possible LE. Can only speculate though i had no issues personally
/u/eldudebrother
1 points
2 years ago
The price felt a bit too good to be true, but I'm still hopeful. Tomorrow marks 7 days since they marked package as "sent" which isn't out of the realm of possibilities but it's getting less likely that it's coming. The zero comms is the most concerning part. I can vouch for INC's MDMA - not bad for the price but I wouldn't take any less than .15 for my first dose again (tolerances vary etc etc) I'll happily go back to them if SB doesn't work out.
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
So my dispute has lasted 48 hours and I have invited a moderator to the case. How long does this typically take to get a resolution? What is the process from here?
/u/venomrep234
1 points
2 years ago
i am in the same boat. waste of my fken time and money
/u/HammerTheReturnKey
1 points
2 years ago
he's been online today
/u/sbupset
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah im caught up in this, hoping abacus sorts it out, lucky enough i didnt let the finalize expire.

I actually had 1 reply on Wednesday 14th from sportsbet answering a delivery combination question, but nothing since then.

I would wonder if its LE if they are accepting orders just to try and get addresses?
/u/jimmybrings
1 points
2 years ago
he's good I'm sure he will get back on top of this

(I know it's a brand new account I'm using a mirror an idk whether it's a phishing mirror or not)
/u/jimmybrings
1 points
2 years ago
What do you mean "blitz (not really a blitz)"
/u/venomrep234
1 points
2 years ago
i finally received my order.........only to get ketamine instead of coke. The stuff looks like raecemic shards of ketamine. Not powdery at all instead with a diamond sheen. fuck me
/u/AndyHug
1 points
2 years ago*
My order finally showed up!! 2 weeks late! Same good quality coke but no freebies or direct comms