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Hello,

After i read that telegram is giving away ip adresses and that element is also an app that you can't turst are there other apps that i can use and are there groups that i can join.

With kind regards
Labwork

/u/nxs67

4 points

5 months ago

simplex

/u/TheBase

1 points

5 months ago

this

or signal if you know how to harden it and practice anonymity :)

/u/Netwerk P

3 points

5 months ago

XMPP/Jabber + OMEMO. XMPP is a decentralized protocol, meaning there’s no single point of control or failure. OMEMO is encryption designed to enhance the security and privacy of XMPP communications. It provides e2e encryption.

Gajim and Profanity are excellent XMPP clients among many others. Both of them support OMEMO encryption.

/u/enzyme P

0 points

5 months ago

[removed]

/u/Netwerk P

2 points

5 months ago*

> protocol without point of failure does not exist

You are correct, however I said a single point of failure. I was attempting to frame my statement in a way that reflects the context of decentralized protocols like XMPP compared to other messaging platforms/apps.

XMPP avoids having a single, centralized failure point, making it more robust and resilient compared to centralized systems.

/u/igrowswiss P

1 points

5 months ago

threema

/u/RedRed

1 points

5 months ago

Why would you be worried about Element if you were using the browser app over Tor?

/u/labworks 📢

1 points

5 months ago

There server don't support tor and they collect methadata. I saw this on a post. It's not because of my opsec but is more in general. Also i have read there is a lot cp and they don't do nothing about it.

/u/RedRed

1 points

5 months ago

I understand, it is not necessarily prone to failure, but simply not ideal.

/u/labworks 📢

1 points

5 months ago

Exactly

/u/Tony

0 points

5 months ago

SimpleX, session, signal, xmpp/jabber

/u/Wurstbrotmann P

0 points

5 months ago

Session is one thing. Many people begin to use it for replacing telegram. So calculate that there will be kind of as many scammers on it as on telegram.
Otherwise SimpleX combined with tor (Orbot on Phone, Whonix on Desktop).

/u/tatertots

0 points

5 months ago

Signal or Session

/u/Octopus Sea 🕷 Spider

0 points

5 months ago

SimpleX
Session
XMPP

/u/TheBase

0 points

5 months ago

"Don't use session"

/post/a5b55b9a31482d8af9af/#c-90b37eb682f6760eb0

/u/Octopus Sea 🕷 Spider

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah, well, that blogger is against Session, against Threema, against XMPP+OMEMO.
With all of his negativity - you're better off training a fucking pigeon post altogether 😂