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AntiDropShip tokens. An idea against dropshipping and AntiDarkNet : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

Before AntiDarkNet, dropshipping was already an issue and is likely to persist in the future. To tackle this problem, I propose the following solution: AntiDropShip tokens

Vendors can become certified as "AntiDropShippers" by enrolling in a program. Once enrolled, the market assigns each vendor a unique token specific to each purchase, which they must print and include in their shipment. Customers are then required to return this token during the review process. If the token does not match the vendor's information, we can confirm that the order was dropshipped.

What do you think?
/u/execution
2 points
3 weeks ago
So basically you’re betting on buyers to follow through with returning a token after finalizing which most won’t even bother with. dropshippers would just adapt by spoofing the token system or faking confirmations. plus now you’re adding another fingerprint to every package and expecting vendors to play along without slipping. anything standardized can get burned fast. smart buyers already spot dropshippers by shipping delay patterns and packaging. street always finds its own filter.
/u/LibertyExchange
1 points
3 weeks ago
They could just ask their vendor to include the "token".
/u/pieceL
1 points
3 weeks ago
just as an idea you don't see how this might get traced back to the vendor, I mean how long before the Feds flag cartoon with a token ? just asking again
/u/FoxtrotFever 📢 🍼
2 points
3 weeks ago
How is a paper inside an envelope more traceable than the drugs themselves? The police can already place drug orders with vendors.
/u/diaperspray P
1 points
3 weeks ago
I get what your saying but who would ever mail anything back to the vendor they bought from?

I wouldn't and hopefully no one else would either. Just not worth it.
/u/zxcasdqwe123
1 points
3 weeks ago
Lol, he's not talking about a literal physical token. He means 'token' as in a number/code on a piece of paper that you put it in the package. And once you finalize the product, you type that code back in to verify it, so you know that person who received the order is actually the one who placed it (and not some dropshipper).
/u/diaperspray P
2 points
3 weeks ago
LOL appreciate that. Didn't it read it over as thoroughly as I thought
/u/pieceL
1 points
2 weeks ago
Ok, I might build a DNM with this idea in the future
/u/KanekiGangX 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
This is actually a very good idea. Smart man.
/u/fatslut 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
what incentive do customers have to provide the token after the purchase?
/u/Lurking4fun 🍼
2 points
3 weeks ago
The incentive is to not buy from a dropshipper that at least make them pay more than from
The original vendor or worst case harvest addresses.

But buyers not even manage to finalize the order in time so I have no hope they go the extra mile
And report back any token. So imho that system
Would
Not work
/u/ringct
1 points
3 weeks ago
What if the vendor instructs the shippers to put the token inside the shipment?
This could work depending on the vendor and agreements with the suppliers, dropshippers will surely adapt if something like this gets rolled out as a standard.
/u/widowwatching 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
Too muchh eeefffotrt exxpecctted ffor a sollution tht would be worked arund immediaely and addd another thing to not Fuck Up on
/u/Damage111
1 points
3 weeks ago
You do realize that drop shipping is beneficial for vendors right?

The amount of orders they place is 10x , 100x what a normal consumer would place. Why would they introduce something to disincentivize that.
/u/zxcasdqwe123
1 points
3 weeks ago
I wouldn't say it's beneficial, it seems neutral. If the dropshippers didn't exist, they would still be getting those orders, just directly. And they could probably up their prices to equal what the dropshippers were charging and make more money.

Also, if the dropshippers turned out to be LE (or whatever those antidarknet inbreds are), having the records of a bunch of shipments could be extremely dangerous for opsec.
/u/Damage111
1 points
3 weeks ago
Of course it's beneficial for vendors. They're not going to alter their prices to balance out getting less orders directly. It's quite simple, drop shippers place more order which = more money for vendors.

Regarding "dropshippers turning out to be LE" the same can be said for your regular Tom, Dick or Harry's ordering. NO ONE KNOWS when an order is placed, it's just an address and an order, nothing else.
/u/Damage111
1 points
3 weeks ago
Plus, COULD and WOULD are two very different things. Increase their prices to dropshippers prices? GTFO here with that absolutely retarded thinking, I'm sorry but that's just laughable.

And what, price themselves out of the rest of the market with other vendors by doing so? = bad for business.

Come on dude, you must be joking.
/u/zxcasdqwe123
1 points
2 weeks ago
Obviously they wouldn't be pricing themselves out of the market, because the dropshippers in question would've been in the market at that exact same price lol. you must be joking
/u/Damage111
1 points
3 weeks ago*
ALSO , why would LE already have the addresses of lots of buyers placing small orders (the majority) ? You really think they would have these details beforehand and place orders with them, do you really think that makes much sense?

Do you think that is tax money being spent wisely focusing time on small time fish placing small orders? It would never happen that way. It would also be a breach of random customers data and LE would not go down that path for legal reasons.
/u/zxcasdqwe123
1 points
2 weeks ago*
I dont think you understand the scenario I was describing. If LE sets up a dropshipping vendor account, they would not 'already have the addresses of lots of buyers'. They would wait for genuine customers to buy from their shop, and then relay those orders to the actual vendor. This doesn't cost LE any money (in fact they may make money from it) and they get information of both the small fish and big fish that make payments through them. Additionally, they are able to monitor and find patterns in the way the actual vendor makes their shipments, considering they have access to usps systems and can tell where and when each pack is scanned into the system. Over time this could lead to the actual vendor being compromised.

Yeah this might not be worth it for stuff like acid, but for stronger drugs like fent/h/maybe even coke they would definitely burn through taxpayer money to catch anyone with dealer quantities.

Normally police wouldn't be allowed to sell drugs to people, and any criminal case involving that would be dismissed immediately. But in this scenario they are only acting as an observing middle man, similar to how police allowed hansa market to keep running while collecting customers information. And of course, police can always lie and say they weren't dropshipping and instead they compromised a dropshipper and took all their info. But ill admit i dont know much about the legal aspects
/u/Damage111
1 points
2 weeks ago
I see what you mean, we are talking about two completely different things. I'm talking about being a dropshipping buyer and you are talking about being a dropshipping vendor.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
What stops the dropshipper from just repackaging with his own code?

Also, dropshipping is beneficial for vendors. Having multiple people advertise your product leads to more sales, even if they end up taking a percentage of the profit. Vendors have no reason to play along with this, and could even just cooperate with the dropshippers and include the codes themselves.

Dropshipping only negatively affects buyers, and there's not much a buyer can do to verify whether an order was dropshipped or not.
/u/Damage111
1 points
3 weeks ago
At least we get it bro.
/u/BigGiantDuck
1 points
3 weeks ago*
It is fairly easy to identify drop shippers because they do not actually have the drugs in hand. I will not expose exactly how to tell because the enemy could adapt, but the last sentence should be a hint. Your idea would work in theory, but how would a buyer return something to a vendor? Most vendors use return addresses not tied to their identity because the buyer could be LE or the package could be searched by post office. Unless it is a cryptographic string of information relayed via PM, this would likely not work. Also, anything centralized like a "program of enrollment" will be less anonymous and rely on mod oversight on the specific forum or marketplace. If the enemy has infiltrated the mod team, they will have access to all the tokens as well as the ability to issue membership in the program, making this program even MORE dangerous if the enemy is running a simultaneous drop shipping account(s).
/u/antidarknet
-3 points
3 weeks ago
"When dread junkies use their brain lmao"
/u/LibertyExchange
2 points
3 weeks ago
What do you gain from harassing small time drug users?
/u/antidarknet
-3 points
3 weeks ago
Who said only small time drug users? Some users we have in our database have purchased kilograms of heroin cocaine or meth. We should let those poisons into our communities???
/u/zxcasdqwe123
3 points
3 weeks ago*
Okay but are you only exposing the info from people that buy bulk? Or everyone? I hope you're not retarded enough to think that the people buying KILOS are doing so with their real name and address LMAO. Have fun letting the police know about vacant houses and people that don't exist. If anything, posting them publicly is just doing the buyers a favor, because now they'll know that their address is burned and they need a new drop lol.

The only people who would have used their real info are small time buyers - either addicts trying to cope or people making the autonomous choice to have fun with drugs. If your motivation is "getting poison out of our communities" then going after these people is pointless, so why are you even doing it?

I can *vaguely* understand your motivation, maybe if you lost someone to laced drugs and want them off the street. But every single action and comment you've made makes it seem like you don't really care about that, and instead you're some bitter cuck who never got invited to parties and wants to mildly inconvenience people that like to drugs.

I hope you respond to my criticisms because I am genuinely curious why you think what you're doing is useful. Although judging by your past you'll probably say some retarded nonsense like "larp on a cock".
/u/LibertyExchange
1 points
3 weeks ago
You said only, I asked what you gain from doing it in general.
/u/FoxtrotFever 📢 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
My body, my choice. This does not apply to your child abuse activities, however, since the bodies of children are not yours.
/u/antidarknet
-2 points
3 weeks ago
Yeah we fight against cyber criminals but do THAT in our not existing spare time lmao when dread junkies use the last brain cells
/u/FoxtrotFever 📢 🍼
4 points
3 weeks ago
No, that is not accurate. While fighting against scams and identity theft would be commendable, you are now actively opposing freedom in various ways. By denying people control over their own bodies and spreading child pornography, you cause unimaginable harm.

I have the right to use meth because it is my body. However, you do not have any right to harm or exploit children, as they are separate individuals with their own bodies and rights that must be respected.
/u/LibertyExchange
1 points
3 weeks ago
Where is the evidence they are in involved in the trade of child porn?
/u/FoxtrotFever 📢 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
I don't remember.
/u/LibertyExchange
1 points
3 weeks ago
Thanks.
/u/Woofle
3 points
3 weeks ago
aren't you committing cybercrime in this 'operation'?
/u/[deleted]
2 points
3 weeks ago
If he is the one doing it, it makes it ok. Thats why they avoid mentioning CP.
/u/LibertyExchange
2 points
3 weeks ago
Not cut out to be a real cop so you LARP on here all day huh mate? Unfortunate.
/u/antidarknet
-3 points
3 weeks ago
We moved from


/u/LibertyExchange 🍼 1 points
32 minutes ago
What do you gain from harassing small time drug users?


to

/u/LibertyExchange 🍼 1 points
1 minute ago
Not cut out to be a real cop so you LARP on here all day huh mate? Unfortunate.


Delusional dread junkies at it again.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
3 weeks ago
How is this delusional? Thats literally what it is. You are a wannabe cop harassing small time drug users.

Edit: forgot to mention: you are also a pedo.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
2 points
3 weeks ago
The way you talk makes it clear you are young. Just quit while you're ahead.
Judging from the sophistication of your "attacks", I don't have much faith in your opsec. If you piss off the wrong guy, you will get caught and you will go to jail. Is it all really worth it just to be known as the laughing stock of dread?
/u/Woofle
2 points
2 weeks ago
so it's monday, where's my dox at?
/u/antidarknet
0 points
2 weeks ago
Check our teeeleeeegan group and f00rum :) First batch delivered as we promised.
/u/Woofle
2 points
2 weeks ago
i'm not dling telegram to see if my eightball of ketamine was in the dox lol but gg for delivering.
/u/yourfavoritecustie 🍼
2 points
2 weeks ago
Womp womp

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https://archive.ph/qXxq4

u/antidarknet Lube up. Your gonna have to like it hard by the time we are done pegging you.
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2 weeks ago
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/u/FoxtrotFever 📢 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
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