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Archetyp Market - WW / Drugs only / XMR only : marketannouncements | Torhoo darknet markets

Market Name: Archetyp Market
Market Onion:
http://4pt4axjgzmm4ibmxplfiuvopxzf775e5bqseyllafcecryfthdupjwyd.onion/
Market LDN: https://archetyp.link
Market Forums url: -/-
Market Sub url (Dread): https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlFYSmphR1YwZVhBPQ==#
Market Rep (Dread): https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdldXOXpaVzFwZEdWSGFHOXpkRmR5YVhSbA==# https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlpXNWtabkp2Ym5RPQ==# https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlFYSmphR1YwZVhCZlVGST0=#
Payment Methods: centralized escrow / fe
Payment Accepted: XMR
Market PGP: /post/daa91673f99672cdb051/#c-abec64a8f9f8cfd2a6


Archetyp Market
/u/samwhiskey
1 points
4 years ago
No vetting has been done on the part of the sub's mods. Do not consider this announcement an endorsement of the market itself or any products/services that may be listed. All we are doing is helping get the word out there so you know about the choices available. Use at your own risk, even established markets and vendors can and have scammed. Any problems you find with this market should be directed to the market's sub here on Dread.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Hehe :-D
Let's celebrate with a quick insight into the current work in progress page:

http://aeternaqrsedlqeoeh7dbuzkxketvc7mfsl3neew4eb3ph5bfb5rgvad.onion/i/0vHKt7dXDcySwG7jXw539oxomLTjsg.png
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Join now.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
4 years ago
This market deserves some serious attention.

Join up, people.
/u/bowner
2 points
4 years ago
based....sending love <3<3 smoochies
/u/[deleted] 📢
2 points
4 years ago
:******
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
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/u/WilliamGibson
1 points
4 years ago
Looking good!
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Thanks! Wait till you see what https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlpXNWtabkp2Ym5RPQ==# got currently in progress. :)
/u/WilliamGibson
1 points
4 years ago
I saw the images. It looks really nice. Also going drugs only is definitely a good choice. We consider to ban at least low quality digital items as well and only allow custom software/malware and DB's. All those low quality guides and similar bullshit is just trashing the whole market.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
> ban on low quality digital items
Sounds like a good idea.
/u/WilliamGibson
2 points
4 years ago
I don't understand how some user seriously buy netflix accounts for 1.50 USD and pay 20 USD mining fees on top instead of just buying a legit account but it happens.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Weren't you guys drugs only when you started?
If I remember correct, what happened that made you decide to opt in for other categories?
/u/WilliamGibson
2 points
4 years ago*
No, we were always a mixed market but with a focus on drugs. However I kind of regret that decision. Fact is most of our disputes are digital listing related. There was a time in DNM history where vendors actually sold interesting digital items but nowadays its kind of a shit show. Some vendor are legit and sell first hand, hacked stuff mostly but the majority just resells literal trash and only causes issues. We allowed fraud listings like CC details because it is some kind of symbolic "Fuck You!" to the traditional financial system. Also for a lot of people living in third world countries fraud and reselling digital items is the only way to really make money somehow instead of working like a slave. I don't think it's bad per se to make some money off well situated but careless first world citizens who put all their trust in the biggest criminals of our time - banks. After all it mostly just causes them a minor inconvenience but other people can feed their families.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
> However I kind of regret that decision.

It's never too late to change that))

> majority just resells literal trash and only causes issues

I can see that, when I took around different markets, it always seemed to me, that most digital items are just cash grabs. Often guides are sold, which are free to find and mostly were published as free resources in the first place.

I think it is a dilemma for me with fraud, when you say: "only way to really make money somehow instead of working like a slave."

I can 100% understand this, the world is fucked up by corruption and end-stage capitalism, it might be the only way out for some and why blame someone for their escape plan?

Yet, I am not sure that fraud only causes minor inconveniences.
/u/JeanVigo
1 points
4 years ago
If you are of this opinion, then perhaps you will not be surprised by the toothy fact that we are all the brightest representatives of capitalism here.

People become slaves of capitalism voluntarily, so I personally have never worked for anyone and do not want to. You have such an opportunity, you should not blame capitalism for the pettiness and uncertainty of people.

The main criterion for making economic decisions is the desire to increase capital, to make a profit. You can't agree with the fact that in the darknet it will always be and never change? Competition in the market bears fruit in the form of your markets in the form of new functions in the markets to attract potential economic agents.

No offense to you and the rest of the adherents of this thesis, all the troubles are not in the system, but in the people in those problems that reproduce the intentions of leading them into slavery to the "evil capitalists", from which, by the way, as you know, you can leave at will.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
No offense taken.

People become slaves of capitalism voluntarily


I do not think that it is always voluntarily to join a system but like /u/WilliamGibson said, for some people, it is the only way out.

I for example, was born into a capitalistic society and leaving is only possible, if I choose to abandon my social circle, including family and friends as they are part of the capitalistic system. The market is my way out of this system. When everything works out, I will just get the fuck out of this country and live somewhere in peace where it is warmer, having a small farm and be self-sustainable. When the market starts to pay a "salary", I could start make my dreams reality.

I believe it is hard to escape the capitalistic system, if you are not born rich or had luck.

I dream about a liberal utopia where drugs are legal and people can laugh about that but I enjoy certain drugs and think everyone should try out LSD at least once. While I do not think, that everyone should try out fraud at least once.

I know that I do not want the future to be like the present, therefore I, and the team behind Archetyp try to make a change.
/u/WilliamGibson
1 points
4 years ago

I think it is a dilemma for me with fraud, when you say: "only way to really make money somehow instead of working like a slave."

For some people it really is. Even making a few dollar per day selling guides and stuff like that can go a long way in a country where the average citizen makes a few cents per day at best.


Yet, I am not sure that fraud only causes minor inconveniences.

Not only but mostly.
Hard to generalize of course but to my knowledge actual victims, of for example credit card fraud, are reimbursed after some hassle they have to go through. I wouldn't say fraud is "harmless" but I think most fraud we see here on the DN in the end just hurts big corporations, financial institutes and governments instead of individuals. But then again its hard to generalize and I am not an expert.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
I think most fraud we see here on the DN in the end just hurts big corporations, financial institutes and governments instead of individuals. But then again its hard to generalize and I am not an expert.


Do you have statistics on this? and what kind of fraud is sold on versus / general DN's mostly?

What bugs me:
big corporations, financial institutes and governments

who in return just raise the fees to make up for it, while the government is funded by taxes, ripping off the government is ripping off the individual via taxes.
/u/WilliamGibson
1 points
4 years ago*

Do you have statistics on this?

No it is just my perceived reality and I could be totally wrong.


who in return just raise the fees to make up for it, while the government is funded by taxes, ripping off the government is ripping off the individual via taxes.

I wouldn't agree on that. Its like saying confiscating stolen goods is robbery.
Taxes, in my opinion, are a form of legalized extortion maybe even armed robbery. It is stolen money as long as you don't give it to them willingly. Have you ever heard about someone who actually willingly paid more taxes than required? I don't. On the other hand everyone I know tries to pay the minimal possible amount.

They literally extort money from you or else they lock you up or worse. I don't see the difference in paying the mob or the government "to protect me". They extort you out of your hard earned money for a service you never asked for and usually they don't use that money for your benefit either. I am not saying nothing good comes from taxes (or paying the mob to protect your business) because that would be naive but lets be honest. The vast majority of tax money is not being used on education, social programs, science or anything that citizens actually benefit from. Just like the mob the government and his goons use tax money mostly to fill their own pockets and expand their territory and power. You could say every government is exactly what all criminal organizations want to become. The current governments are only the criminal organizations who actually made it to the top and managed to glorify themselves as the representation of the people. However. That's just my personal opinion based on my somewhat biased perspective.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
First things first, sorry for the delayed response, but I think you deserve a well written response and yesterday my mind was somewhere else.

We live in a society.

Another unpopular opinion by me, probably even more unpopular than the one I stated to /u/Layla, but I think taxes are good.

No, I do not like to pay them, but I think they are useful.
Yes, a lot governments are corrupt and fuck up, they fuck over citizens and enrich themselves, but I also think, that this is a generalization.

People do, single people and it is upon us, to hold them accountable. Yes, probably more politicians are corrupt than honest but not all are bad, some try to archive actual shit and work for the betterment of the state, planet, world or humanity. Great people.

I think that the positives outweigh the negatives, I'm happy to enjoy public healthcare and the social safety net gives me some trust in myself, the self-esteem that I can try things and will not starve, when I fail. I know not everyone has it like I have and can enjoy the same benefits, that is probably the root cause for different opinions.

The duty of youth is to challenge corruption.


You and I, we as this forum, we as the youth of this generation, I think we need to stand together and fight corruption.

This is our duty. I think we might be one of the last generations to have a chance on fighting for freedom and human rights and we need to do so now, before the big brother will finally take over. Mass surveillance will only get worse. To say it in words, you might find more familiar:

I don't have to write about the future. For most people, the present is enough like the future to be pretty scary.


We need to stand strong together and support movements for human rights. The oppression and corruption seems to only get worse and yes you are right, governments are just like the mafia, but they do not exactly act like the mafia, at least here were I live.

I could declare bankruptcy and would not have to fear, that some goons will break my bones and proof to me, that kneecaps are not a human right.

Yes, I think this might happen else where and we should end this but how can we do this?
We can not really help people in other parts of the world, this is not how it works. The people need to wake up and unionize, they need to fight for themselves, we can not bring democracy to everyone, the people need to take it themselves, but we have the fight to keep democracy in the countries where we live in.

You never asked for taxes, benefits or a government, neither did I, neither did our parents or grandparents probably. Governments were only goons back than, here where I live they were like small kingdoms fighting for power all the time, till around 1870, when they all were unified thanks to maybe one of the smartest politicians to ever live, at least for my country. (Germany, with politician: Bismark)

I'm not the best on /d/History we probably could ask /u/Battery how it really was.
From what I know, the governments were formed, to protect the people from other people, against armed robbery. We now live (at least here in Europe) mostly in peace. Without governments, this would not be possible. I

That's just my personal opinion based on my somewhat biased perspective as well.

Please do not take offense, I am very thankful for the possibility to state my mind here with you guys. (Same goes to /u/Layla)
Usually I only shit-post, now I finally engaged in some real discussion, it probably reads a lot harsher than I mean it. I never took any offense here in this post by not one single participant. Huge respect to everyone, one love. I probably should take more time to formulate it better, as English is not my mother tongue, and I have a hard time in discussions like this one, but I might make a more detailed post in the future, to let everyone know, about my opinions.
/u/Battery
1 points
4 years ago
It's just like you say. I do not have to fill in anything on it.
/u/Layla
1 points
4 years ago*
When you run a market you're already stealing many things from governments, including tax, which is easily classified as fraud. Many people aren't allowing frauds, but you shouldn't hold any stigma against frauds. You act like a wolf wearing the skin of a sheep.

P.S: Were you a fraudster in past?



Edit: All markets allowing fraud will not exitscam, that's not a functional theory. Best example is Agora Market, allowed all kind of fraud as well as guns. Dream is an another example, gave one month prior notice before closing the market.

There have been legendary fraudsters, JokerStash, retired without scamming anyone. xmr.to allowed everyone to wash coins(drug money and fraud money, included) without asking anything retired peacefully, thesmilinghat, hacked banks and transferred money to orphan homes in Africa, etc.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
I quote your whole post, before you remove it, no offense.

I know, I have an unpopular opinion but I rather defend that, and lose customers than to not state and defend it.

If you see fraud and do not say fraud, you are a fraud.


When you run a market you're already stealing many things from governments, including tax, which is easily classified as fraud. Many people aren't allowing frauds, but you shouldn't hold any stigma against frauds. You act like a wolf wearing the skin of a sheep.


> You act like a wolf wearing the skin of a sheep.
Who would fear a cross-dresser? (Happy pride)

According to you, I am wolf, and I guess you and all other people around here are wolfs as well, so whats the matter, we are equal aren't we?

> stealing from governments
I'd pay taxes, but there is no tax on the drugs that are sold on Archetyp.
I in the first place run this market, because drugs are illegal, which is a fraud committed by the government against the citizens.

> stigma against frauds
Fraud is basically committing crimes by logical reasons. I take something from another human, what does not belong to me.
Selling drugs are a crime, because someone said so. It is not logical. I see many brave men here fighting for human rights. Drugs should be legal.

P.S: Were you a fraudster in past?

No.
What would this change about the present? I do not blame anyone who did fraud but changed later on in life anyways, everyone makes mistakes. I believe humans are capable of change and I welcome everyone who acknowledges his own mistakes and grows. LSD helped me with my personal growth, you should try it out yourself.

Edit: All markets allowing fraud will not exitscam, that's not a functional theory. Best example is Agora Market, allowed all kind of fraud as well as guns. Dream is an another example, gave one month prior notice before closing the market.


I did not say this, did I? I do think that fraud is a crime, it is unethical by basic logic. Agora and Dream are good examples for anarchic business being run honest. But /u/WilliamGibson told me before, that Dream actually fucked users over, you should talk with him about him, I am not an expert on this.

There have been legendary fraudsters, JokerStash, retired without scamming anyone. xmr.to allowed everyone to wash coins(drug money and fraud money, included) without asking anything retired peacefully,


How can you call them fraudsters and in the same sentence you say, they did not fraud anyone? Than they were not fraudsters imho. They were loyal to their customers but helped in the process of fraud, therefore they are guilty by logic, don't you think? It is a hard topic. I'm not an expert on ethics but to me it sounds this way.


thesmilinghat, hacked banks and transferred money to orphan homes in Africa, etc


This is awesome, sounds like a modern Robin Hood to me. Yes, here I am hypocritical but who does not like a story like this? No single person is perfect, that's why no one should idolize persons but rather ideas. And the idea behind Archetyp is rock solid.

It is my honest opinion, I am no expert, I state my mind from my limited point of view. I am happy to change my opinion about any topic, when someone can come up with persuading arguments.

A last quote for who it might concern to end this:
Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind.
/u/Layla
1 points
4 years ago*
I did not say this, did I?

OOF.

I ASSUME THAT POST WAS WRITTEN BY YOUR GHOST.
/post/10430fc5f2c713c97434
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
I did not say it today or in this comment chain, did I?

My opinion did change partly, after we talked on Jabber before and you know this, wonder why you bring it up here, if not to damage the market.

I was wrong when I said, that every market that offers fraud will exit-scam.

Most will exit-scam though.
/u/Layla
1 points
4 years ago*
Fraud is basically committing crimes by logical reasons. I take something from another human, what does not belong to me.


First, you hacked Pax Romana market, stole all coins and then you sold source code to a phisher, aka Godman666, where were your morals then? Wasn't it a fraud?


What would this change about the present? I do not blame anyone who did fraud but changed later on in life anyways, everyone makes mistakes.


Sounds fair.

How can you call them fraudsters and in the same sentence you say, they did not fraud anyone? Than they were not fraudsters imho. They were loyal to their customers but helped in the process of fraud, therefore they are guilty by logic, don't you think?



Lol...now you contradict yourself.


This is awesome, sounds like a modern Robin Hood to me.


The concept of Robinhood is widely accepted but it reality it's not just.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
First, you hacked Pax Romana market, stole all coins and then you sold source code to a phisher, aka Godman666, where were your morals then? Wasn't it a fraud?


I stole the coins and offered to payback every effected customer. I actually paid back everyone who messaged me, got into contact with me. Most users are paid back, some even told me, that I can have the coins and are kind of happy that I hacked them, and not the police.

I sold the source code to a couple of people, I got paid and delivered the source, no fraud.

Godman666 does not need source to phish people, that is possible without any source of a market. (Phishing proxy)

Lol...now you contradict yourself.


You contradicted yourself, not me.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
4 years ago
The impact of fraud depends on the country and obviously the type of fraud. While credit/debit card fraud can vary from minor annoyances, bounced checks or the need to leave your groceries at the counter when the payment is declined, identity theft can have a long lasting effect which is usually quite hard to fix, for example getting your credit file cleaned up.

Banks are indeed some of the biggest fraudsters out there but I'm quite sure most pass their "losses" to their "customers" as higher fees, commissions and whatnot.

Nevertheless fraud is a very big business, there were studies claiming it equals the global drug trade but vetting and moderating fraud vendors is a real pain in the ass.
/u/WilliamGibson
1 points
4 years ago

vetting and moderating fraud vendors is a real pain in the ass

Nailed.
/u/Layla
1 points
4 years ago*
If all drugs were good, markets won't be banning fent. Similarly, the whole Fraud industry isn't a scam or immoral, fraud is a life savior thing in many cases, such as getting a new identity to start a new life. Don't forget a huge chunk of drug vendors need fraud vendors for bypassing id and selfie verification's on crypto exchanges. Both are interlinked and building darknet community. I have heard, some markets and darknet forums, used FULLz to buy servers to run the service smoothly.

What about Snowden whistleblowing to raise awareness, ShadowBrokers leaking LE tools, as well as BlueLeaks, can these fall under Fraud? I think, yes.



Nevertheless fraud is a very big business, there were studies claiming it equals the global drug trade but vetting and moderating fraud vendors is a real pain in the ass.


Yes, that's an issue, but what about vetting and moderating drug disputes about product quality? From my understanding, established fraud vendors don't defraud their clients, but it can't be generalised.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
What about Snowden whistleblowing to raise awareness, ShadowBrokers leaking LE tools, as well as BlueLeaks, can these fall under Fraud? I think, yes.


And this defines your character and is seen whenever you act.
/u/Layla
1 points
4 years ago
What do you mean, mrghostwriter? Can you explain?
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
You have no issue with spying on various people but if someone leaks that you do, you think it is against rules
/u/[deleted]
1 points
4 years ago
Rules.
no racism

Fuck. Nice feature of being able to solve disputes without a mod. Good luck.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
A mod can always help out with the disputes, but if the vendor and buyer solve the dispute without a mod, they can do that. Thank you!
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
4 years ago
congratulations mate.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
thank you mate.
/u/postmalone97
1 points
4 years ago
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/u/[deleted] 📢
0 points
4 years ago
> This looks promising, hope it could be the next DNM giant.
Thank you, that would be a dream coming true for us.

> If it could have a rule like vendors are responsible for replying msgs within 72 hrs would be great
Unfortunately we can not set a rule like that, because we could never force a vendor to this, no-one knows what kind of struggle a vendor might face, therefore we do not want to add additional stress to them. We of course encourage vendors to maintain a fast response time.
/u/postmalone97
1 points
4 years ago
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/u/WilliamGibson
2 points
4 years ago
You do realize that its better for the whole ecosystem to have several good but smaller markets instead of one big one right? Competition leads to innovation. And think about what empire and dream both did in the end. Empire stole everyone's money right away and dream has been abandoned by its admin and rogue mods scammed the shit out of the remaining vendor. Don't bet all your money on one market. Use different ones. Give new markets a chance as well if they are promising. All the centralization and obsession of having one big market only leads to problems.
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Thanks! - I guess /u/WilliamGibson makes a valid point, that a too tight centralization is not healthy and it would be good if more markets have a more even share. Makes it harder for LE in the end to perform big disruption.
/u/pharoah
1 points
4 years ago*
Congrats, nice UI!! But seems bitta slow though
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Thanks! You would really help us, when you point out, where you experienced the market as slow? :)
/u/pharoah
1 points
4 years ago
Oh, nvm. Didn't realized you're getting DDoSed on your first day :P
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
We are getting attacked for weeks, it started on 420, via archetyp DOT link we provide fresh onions though, you can always get one, which should work blazing fast.
/u/mrswhite010111
1 points
4 years ago
congrats!! looking good! cant wait for WW sellers..
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
thank you and same, we are looking forward to new vendors joining us.
/u/redrarri
1 points
4 years ago
ohhh he just went WW
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Ye, fuck these ddosers.
/u/CriticalXtraction
1 points
4 years ago
Really nice job on the design. Rules and features looks good too !
Wish you the best, willing to join the journey
/u/[deleted] 📢
1 points
4 years ago
Thank you! Happy to hear this. :)