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Assorted analysis 24/03/2025 (late) : Test4Pay | Torhoo darknet markets

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Hey fellow citizens of the Darknet. I have a few test results here to post. They are a mixture of secret shopper and vendor submitted. It will be made very clear which is which and it's important to keep in mind that vendor submitted samples can often be widely different to products sold on the market.

I have two lots of these, this report (which is late according to my schedule) is the first of them. please bare some patience with me as life is chaotic at current. Several products which spurred on many questions are included in both reports. Multiple independent laboratories where contracted for this testing which is complimented by in-house testing. I hope this work is of use to the community but also request all information obtained through dread including that which I provide be treated with skepticism. N= nitazene F=fentanyl B=benzodiazepine.

https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlRtRnlZMjkwYVdOemQyOXliR1IzYVdSbExRPT0=# m30s- vendor submitted/secret shopper.

There was much fear and contention that these pressed pills could be highly dangerous. I deemed them an immediate threat and reached out to NWW who offered to send me a sample for testing (6). I also accepted a sample from a forum user who purchased them (2). Both samples where the same in appearance and results. Both where finely powdered into homogenous samples for testing.

in-house testing found:
lateral flow tests F=negative B= negative N= negative.

functional group method showed no presence of Nitazene.

Third party results below.

ftir = no active substance found
ftir = no active substance found
lcms = no active substance found
nmr = no active substance found

N = negative F = negative

Neither myself or any third party could detect any substance that would be active within the samples. Either the amount of active substance within these tablets is so minute that it is below all cutoff ranges for testing or these tablets are purely a placebo and do not contain any active known compounds. Either way, every party involved in testing was fairly stumped by these and if any forum user who has actual experience with consuming them would like to contact me about their personal subjective experience, I would appreciate it greatly. In good faith I cannot recommend that any person consumes these tablets as it is unknown what is in them even after vigorous testing by multiple parties.

https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlpHbHlkSE5vWVhKcg==# - ketamine - secret shoppers.

There were multiple claims that this vendor was selling a research chemical as the real McCoy as this vendor has a fairly long track record on the Australian markets and has a large volume of sales. I decided that this would be a Priority to look into and luckily there were multiple forum members offering to send me samples. There ended up being too many offers so I could not accept them all but I did receive multiple as well as had secret shopping conducted As soon as I saw accusations.

Multiple samples where sent off for FTIR while a sample of all the samples mixed together (budget constraints) was sent for further FTIR, NMR and LCMS.

Sample A:
in-house testing. Morris reagent positive for ketamine. F= Negative B= Negative N= Negative.
Ftir: Only ketamine detected.

Sample B:
in-house testing. Morris reagent positive for ketamine. F= Negative B= Negative N= Negative.
Ftir: Only ketamine detected.

Sample C:
in-house testing. Morris reagent positive for ketamine. F= Negative B= Negative N= Negative.
Ftir: Only ketamine detected.

mixed sample.
Ftir: only ketamine detected
NMR: High purity ketamine 95%+-
LCMS: High purity ketamine 95%+-

All the samples I have tested where infact ketamine. I'm happy to further this testing if anyone wants to reach out.
/u/WearyBuyerOG
2 points
3 months ago
/u/bigdog729

Taniwha has listing on abacus where he states the following in the description


BigDog has tested the fish scale and powder stuff these are his statements:

Fish Scale:
Ftir: Cocaine hydrochloride, no adulterants found.
Secondary ftir: cocaine hydrochloride, no adulterants found.
NMR: 89% +- 5%.
Notes: I believe this to be high purity cocaine with no adulterants detected and closer to 94% than 84%.

Powder:
The results where calculated as parts per million (ppm) and showed it to be 89%. No nasties where found in it and from what I j understand the remaining 11% consists of other tropane alkaloids present in the coca plant but as there was over 30 different peaks they are in too minute of an amount to identify.



Can you confirm this is accurate of what you have said as i cant see it posted anywhere :)
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
0 points
3 months ago
that's awesome. BD getting used as a sales pitch on listings now :|
/u/taniwha
1 points
3 months ago
No /u/dontlaugh , this is called being a responsible vendor and sharing valuable information to customers regarding product quality/safety.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
-1 points
3 months ago*
sorry mate - where exactly were these tests published? who submitted them? there is nothing here on dread

let me guess, session?
/u/taniwha
1 points
3 months ago
Private message on Dread bud. /u/bigdog729 has not finished the public write up of results so has not posted yet - he's been going through a fair bit at the moment if you've read his post so have some patience.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
-1 points
3 months ago
/u/bigdog729 good to see you still have time to send private messages to vendors so they can advertise with your results.

straight from cantest?
/u/taniwha
1 points
3 months ago
Stop shilling cantest /u/dontlaugh

I had a geez through your post history and its kinda sad man like all this energy you've put in over years posting has made you $0 and highlighted how grim your life must be to spend hours of your life policing what should be a free speech zone.

I hope your situation gets better and you find some more constructive hobbies other than calling everyone a "shiller" then telling them they broke the rules of the sub dread followin threats of banning them lmao - I pray you someday realise that the beauty of the deep web is that of freedom and if you love the power of control of modding an internet forum then I think the clearnet is more suited for you like reddit, discord where your dictorial behaviour will probably be more aligned.

Nothing personal just an observation of mine and a good few others that have notice your behaviour.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
0 points
3 months ago
ouch.. you really got me where it hurts.

i guess having a 3.3K user score comes from all the haters mr -1.

maybe if you spent some time paying attention you'd realise that no one likes a knob on the DN.

it's always the smartest cunt in the room that wants 'freedom' on the DN.
/u/Ozspinsss
3 points
3 months ago
/dontlaugh. Mate get a life. You are averaging 8 posts/day for 5 years! Stop clogging the forums with your crap.
You accuse customers who actually make orders from the DN of giving fake shill reviews with no real evidence or proof of your BS claims. I bet you probably don't or can't even afford to make many purchases for yourself...
/u/taniwha
0 points
3 months ago*
Like I said in final sentence nothing personal just my observation - I see in first sentence you've aligned your reply with an emotional response indicating I've somehow tried to emotionally hurt you, which as I said is not the case I am just sharing observations.

3.3k score|? Not sure what to take from that being that you've persistently posted for almost half a decade so I'd hope you have a score that you do - good on you perhaps? Wow excellent 5 years of accomplishment buddy you should be proud of yourself!

What ill respond to regarding your last two sentences is this: you're damnn right "the smartest cunt in the room" "wants 'freedom'" of speech. DN is a space where no one should be able to dictate ideas, speech and emotions - the clearnet has plenty of this going on. You stating "no one likes a knob on the DN" is such a subjective statement as a "knob" is an idea of someone that is different to everyone and no one person should be able to title someone a "knob" to be treated as "gospel" just becuase they believe it to be themselves; that is an extremely dangerous idea.

Freedom of speech is so important my brother - no one should be able to do decide what idea, emotion and speech is wrong - doing so is called fascism which is what the Nazis did to people so that individual ideas could never be shared or studied.

Once again nothing personal at all I just needed to share this with you as from what i've observe in your post history, you're becoming more and more fascist through the years whether you realise it or not.
/u/greygod69
2 points
3 months ago
LMAO finally someone said it to this guy so true. I seen this bloke @dontlaugh proper hijack Nazi everyones posts lol noticed he seems to claim every single post is someone shilling or as you say you are breaking the "subjective" rules lol so im thinking whats the point of posting any reviews anymore when you got this dork deciding everything hahahahaha absolute bonkers tbf.

Pre lame @dontlaugh I reckon just relax tbh bro let people post dont think the worlds gonna end if someone breaks "rule #2 section 8.23" in your opinion/conclusion.

Good point about the money thing @taniwha too I can't imagine sitting on dread forums for 5 years and have made zero bucks but lost so much life to this defs feel bad for the guy as well. I enjoy reading forum posts but I have seen this guy way too much yapping about rules can't even enjoy a read anymore without him having to open his mouth.
/u/Ozspinsss
2 points
3 months ago
Mate I could not have said this any better. /u/dontlaugh accuses anyone of shilling if its a good/positive review of a vendor that he "personally" dislikes. However he is all cool with good/positive reviews on vendors he "personally" likes. "Darknet Godsend"? bahaha seriously. That says it all right there. You have to be full of yourself to be rocking that "flair"? lol
Sorry I'm really trying not to laugh right now... /dontlaugh bahahaha.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
0 points
3 months ago
this isn't my sub, so didn't add the flair.

aaand go fuck yourself with ya small penis :)
And no not from cantest, I would actually be happy to share the originals with a mutually trusted party like /u/nugget or /u/gofastyeah aslong as they are kept confidential. There was a time when I would of happily shared them with you but you've shown me that you do do not honour confidentiality nor do you respect me. BTW I've sent various members of dread evidence of the destruction caused by cyclone alfred to my home. I hope your nice and comfortable this evening, I'm in a sleeping bag on a concrete floor again! ; "My socks are dirty but my conscience is clean".

BD
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
1 points
3 months ago
you've talked about this shared originals a lot mate - i waited a long time and got nothing and considering the lack of oversight for your results, the ongoing requests for funds and the continued limited results i would have thought it was relevant that you give those to someone/anyone.

no one on dread is a trusted party, even me. alluding to them being so is just creating false trust.

now on to you addressing why you went from one month saying you did not trust the session group and have had issues in there, to then suddenly being an integral part of their onboarding messaging. can you see why i and other might see that as being at best out of character? recommending vendors when you explicitly said you would not do that as an initial agreement to allow you to sit outside the rules of the sub with test reports

sorry mate - but you lost a lot of trust recently with your behaviour and the changes and missing details can't just be accounted for.
recommending vendors when you explicitly said you would not do that as an initial agreement to allow you to sit outside the rules of the sub with test reports has not been addressed either. our ongoing private conversations were a place that you continued to reassure me of not doing that when i pulled you up on it initially. another please explain.
You never requested original copies from me but I always made it clear they where available. Reguarding trusted parties maybe that speaks to my own naivety that I put trust in others, it is something that often has negative outcomes.

How many cases can you highlight as to where I have provided limited results? If you are talking about the NWW pressed pills I have a substantial collection of PDFs digging into them, there is only so far that one can dig. When there is nothing that can be found with all the resources at my disposal I openly state as such. Admitting that I dont know/can't find the answer is simply the truth, one that others often will not own up to. What ongoing requests for funds?? You mean the occasional fundraiser to assist in the costs of running the types of prohrsm that I'm running. You do know hiring third party analyticsl chemists costs money yeah? So does organising secret shoppers, sending out testing supplies and all the other activities myself and my tiny team engage in. I am at a net loss for this work and always will be. I have nothing to gain from this work I do not have a financial interest illicit drugs, I barely use illicit drugs and my real-life career is not furthered by my work here.

When you state "you lost a lot of trust recently with your behaviour and the changes and missing details can't just be accounted for" who exactly are you speaking on behalf of because the only person who seems to have any issue is yourself. Like always I'm happy to be corrected in this if anyone else feels the same way I implore them to speak up.

I get asked constantly to reccomend vendors and ask around my response doesn't shill to anyone in particular it's along the lines of these vendors have tested well as of recent please check the results I've posted as well as reviewsoz and the market feedback to make an informed decision.

Mate I logged in today to session for the first time in three weeks, if I was so integral to it you'd think it would be in disarray.

Finally at the end of the day conversations conducted under the pretext of confidentiality are something I treat as such. This is a basic tenant of being an honorable human being and something you've proven yourself incapable of honouring. It's kinda ironic you stating that I've "lost a lot of trust" for slipping up in some phrasing which made it look like I was "shilling" where as you very clearly disclosed confidential discussion between us in a very public way. Maybe my moral compass is misaligned but I see your actions as far more damaging to trust than mine.

I don't have the energy to continue arguing with you mate, I'm fucking exhausted due to my current life situation. I'll do my best to get more results out by the end of week and I'll send either of the two previously mentioned parties copies of lab reports if they reach out. If you want to keep removing my posts from darknet Australia including those that offer literally life saving hatm reduction supplies for free to the community as your way of getting to me that's fine. Removing harm reduction resources from the community for your own ego is indicative of how far you've fallen.

Stay safe friend
BD
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
1 points
3 months ago
the limited results are in that you have provided 0 proof to the community that they are really being done. considering the amount of personal information you have freely given to the community about your situation, you've pretty much doxxed yourself, yet you're unwilling to provide anything that may incriminate you?? but giving personal details in order to get people to donate is ok? come on mate. that one fails the old pub test.

it has nothing to do with my ego - it has to do with you posting 'results' without any kind of proof. this allows you a LOT of control over which vendors

this has always been an issue and something i let slide when you weren't out and about asking for cash and recommending vendors.

still to this day you have given up nothing to back up the test results. not a photo - not a cross referenced and published 3rd party result(although you've claimed a LOT of 3rd party testing), nothing.

i'd like to believe you, and for a long time i did, but the change in behaviour has me questioning. a man of science should understand that no?
Sorry but who am I asking for cash for due to my personal circumstances, I have never done that. I have raised funds for this project and that alone people have offered to help me out with my personal situation bit I've never asked for such. Reguarding the originals its not me they compromise but the third parties who are analytical chemists outside of the harm reduction sphere. Also do you think I'm the only cunt north of gympie who's house was destroyed by the cyclone, come up here and have a gander in the numerous communities the state and federal government as well as the media have seen to have forgotten exist. Like I said happy to send spectral data, notations, cross references whatever is requested to either of those members of your team. I with all honesty value and appreciate your skepticism and think it's very important to keep the Field level.

BD
I've sent /u/gofastyeah three lab reports so far from substances that will be in the current report including dirtsharks k, another vendors ice and taniwhas 89% cocaine. Is there any reports in particular you'd like sent to either him or nugget. Actually /u/dontlaugh I have the 30 something page report for NWWs pressed pills which was done by a lab specialising in HR they wouldn't mind me sharing. Let me know how you'd like me to get it too you.

BD
/u/nugget
1 points
3 months ago
Hey mate, Im online for a bit if you want to send them my way to sort it all out?
Too easy I'll DM you.
Hey mate,

Just haven't had time to publish the results yet due to circumstance. I always send vendors the results as soon as I get them just like I inform them if something is dangerous. I'm not here to advertise any vendor or promote any product if vendors wish to use my posts as advertising there is nothing I can do about it.

To the other blokes please give /u/dontlaugh a little bit of respect. There is no need for us to be throwing insults around; let's keep the discourse respectful.

BD
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
1 points
3 months ago
you dont see a problem with sending a DM to a vendor and then having them use that to advertise as a source of truth?
puts you in a pretty powerful situation where you haven't had any oversight mate.
I didn't expect them to use it in that way and I expected to have the results publicly available the same day as I sent them the message. This is an issue of circumstances misaligning time frames, I'll have the results public by the end of the week.

BD
/u/taniwha
1 points
3 months ago
/u/bigdog729 it wasn't used in anyway nefariously. It is a subjective view to say that vendors are using in a way to market, which is true at the end of the day lets be real. Most importantly in our case just like our NZ prods everything is lab tested to ensure quality & safety.

/u/dontlaugh you having a sulk about /u/bigdog729 testing could be dangerous for buyers by pushing away people willing to and having the resources to test product.

I know you like to talk and argue for the sake of it /u/dontlaugh but have some empathy for others that appreciate being able to easily see the results.
/u/taniwha
1 points
3 months ago
What you saying you want me to remove the results /u/bigdog729 sent me? Bruv idc tbh believe what you want - end of the day i'm just tryna make sure my customers are provided safe quality shit.

Theres a reason why I don't list anything but Coke as I haven't been able to source anything safe, quality and local that I would be comfortable selling.

/u/bigdog729 results that were sent to me I thought were beneficial for customers - wouldn't you like your favourite vendor to post analytical test results in listings?

/u/dontlaugh you're arguing for the sake of arguing just look at the positives in what we're tryna do here, not everything needs to be looked at with such cynisicm.

It sucks AUS has not good free lab testing like NZ its ridiculous but at least /u/bigdog729 is doing something. What are you doing /u/dontlaught?
/u/tempacc
1 points
3 months ago
Do you even know what you're selling?
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago
Yes, drugs :)
/u/tempacc
2 points
3 months ago*
I prefer my drugs to test positive for drugs.

Your MDMA is great though, I'll give you that one.
/u/backtoit
1 points
3 months ago
This cunt doesn't even know what species they are!

The gall to tag you and me but not the legend who called them on their shit in the first place! (Big love /u/denizen if you're still out there!)

I've isolated the comments made by myself and NWW to keep it neat, but the full extent of my interaction with this waste of oxygen on that single post can be found here: /post/bde3a320d8d22ecb92fe/#c-ac8eeffa94f37ca0fe

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/u/backtoit 2 points 3 months ago*

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It was specifically his pills, yeah.

Someone posted about NWW's pressed pill batch (at the time) advising that they weren't as strong as previous, and ultimately the best advice they could offer was to avoid until this had improved. The post itself wasn't really all that inflammatory, however NWW didn't respond to it very well. Disappointingly, they responded pretty similarly to how they did in this situation, IE: I don't need your money. Fuck you, check my reviews! etc., which is a shame as we'd actually had some pretty productive seeming conversations following that.

Given this newest development however you would be better served absolutely anywhere else. (I vote Wombat.)

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/u/NarcoticsWorldwide Vendor 1 points 3 months ago

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Yes customer complained about 'underdosed' fendi 200mg pills. The story didn't go exactly as it is on the post, but we still apoligized for our behaviour and offered other pills once we had them ready - also if your read his post, he claimed to sent the pills to a lab-test but he never came with the results.

Those pills are already sold out, and we already have the new stock available, 250mg. We are happy to sent you a sample if you sent me a PM.

We are here to give everyone the best product for the best price, so please respect our job and appreciate what we are doing for you guys here.

And thanks to all my customers who are still ordering from us since day 1.

/u/backtoit 2 points 3 months ago*

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NWW: "Yes customer complained about 'underdosed' fendi 200mg pills. The story didn't go exactly as it is on the post, but we still apoligized for our behaviour and offered other pills once we had them ready - also if your read his post, he claimed to sent the pills to a lab-test but he never came with the results."

You know it takes up more energy being dishonest than it would to link them to the very post you're referencing, right?
/post/105e17e66ea8730123ac

NWW: "We are here to give everyone the best product for the best price, so please respect our job and appreciate what we are doing for you guys here."

You're not providing the best product, and even then it certainly isn't offered at the best price, so of what exactly does anyone here have to be appreciative?

Respect is earned, it isn't demanded, yet here we are again where you find yourself speed-running your way to the bottom of the ranking. It's like you were taught all this in reverse.

Own your shit mate, fucking hell.

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It's a crying shame you deleted our DM history mate. The one where you came crawling to me asking for help understanding why you're such a retard.

And I gave you that help, you seemed sincerely thankful, and then completely unprompted you shared far too much information regarding your sand castle business operations.

I caution any AU vendor (who I hadn't already warned obviously) that NWW is actively threatening your OpSec in the span of singular conversations so imagine how valuable your partnerships are with them when the chips are really down.

Fuck you /u/NarcoticsWorldwide and the poisonous shit you peddle.
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago
Where are you talking about dude? I've never threatened someone so don't come up and blackmail me to your dread friends. No one cares.

Keep selling your shrooms, im sure you use it yourself as well.
/u/backtoit
1 points
3 months ago
You're so fucking stupid you can't even read properly. Try it again, take it slowly. I said you are the threat to their OpSec, not that you're threatening vendors.

Am I meant to be offended by that or something? I moderate /d/Shrooms, I'm not a vendor. Here we are again with your embarassing lack of reading comprehension.

If only people took notice of how fucking suss you are back when Sportsbet "vanished" from the scene. You're a big boy, can't you just fuck off to your own private market, so you can sell your fucking zenes and bleach and whatever the fuck, and we can go back to forgetting you were ever here.
/u/WearyBuyerOG
1 points
3 months ago
Thanks for the tag :)

So you aren't selling laced m30s you are selling m30s that contain no drugs at all? I don't believe this. You have 100s of sales of these pills as you state. People would not be returning to buy pills that do absolutely nothing.

I concur with /u/nugget. The only plausible explanation is that you have duds and laced ones.

My reasoning is as follows.

If you were selling laced m30s then people would continue buying them (as they have) because they have some sort of effect.

If you were selling dud m30s nobody would be buying them (but they have).

Happy to be proven wrong but this looks like you have done a poor attempt at a coverup with minimal foresight of what questions will arise from said coverup.
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago
There’s no need for you to believe me if you don't want to, but I do feel misunderstood.

Even after lab results, you still seem to doubt me. To me, this shows that it’s not about the facts, but rather a personal dislike based on who I am — and honestly, that’s okay.

Regarding the customers, we had plenty of orders still coming in, but we decided to take the listings down. We did this to avoid any bad reputation, of course. We never intended to sell anything harmful, like oxy mixed with fent.

Now, imagine this: what would you do if you were a vendor who sold a lot of oxy, and suddenly someone comes out of nowhere telling you that your oxy has tested positive for something like fent? The next day, they publish an entire story about you, basically accusing you of being responsible for someone's death.

Do you have any idea how much risk we take selling on the dark web? We’ve built trust with many customers who appreciate us. I’m okay with that, but what I don't like is being judged based on one person's account, without hearing both sides. No lab tests to back it up — just a test kit that might not even be accurate.

To this day, we’re still getting messages from customers asking about the oxy. And soon, we’ll continue selling again.
/u/WearyBuyerOG
2 points
3 months ago
What is being misunderstood? I genuinely having nothing against you "based on who you are" I got no fucking idea who you are or what you stand for except for the m30s issue AND reviews saying your ket isn't ket.

You are dancing around my exact point and that's itself makes me not believe you. These results have come back saying NO DRUGS AT ALL in the oxys. You have sold a whole lot of these m30s and as per your own words are still getting messages now asking for them.

IF they contained NO DRUGS AT ALL as per this testing result, you wouldn't;

a. be selling loads
b. have repeat customers for them
c. have people messaging you asking for them

How do you explain this very simple concept?

I have nothing against vendors who do things right. Its a tough game and one I wouldn't be able to do. What i do have an issue with is vendors selling products that aren't as listed. I have called out other vendors for the exact same thing.

My request is very simple, answer the question above.

You can talk shit all you want about feelings and new accounts and shills and all that shit but it's glaringly obvious when someone won't answer a question to what the answer actually is.
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago
I feel like there’s a lot of negativity directed at us, especially on Dread. Honestly, it makes me feel like it's more personal, like you don’t like me just for who I am.

And as for the review saying my ket isn't ket, I honestly can’t find anything to back that up. Every post you've made about us seems to reference the zene issue, which, as you can see now, is not correct.

To clarify again, we purchased the oxy pills from a supplier who assured us they were pharma-grade. We tested them, and no fent or zene was detected. Some customers tested them too, and they were happy with the results. We’ve sold these with no complaints. The only issue we encountered was that they were low dosed, which made us question the pharma-grade quality, but we made sure to offer fair deals, which customers appreciated.

One thing you have to understand is that not everyone is active on Dread. We don’t pressure customers to post reviews, but we do kindly ask for them. A lot of people are either new or not as active on Dread as you are. I know it may seem like shilling, but it’s not.

All I’m asking is that you stop replying to people’s posts about us, whether they’re positive or negative.
/u/WearyBuyerOG
1 points
3 months ago
The only issue you encountered was that they were low dosed? These are dosed at ZERO. That's not low dose, that's no dose. And people kept coming back to buy these no dosed pills? you may have some thick customers who believe the shit coming out of your mouth but they aren't indicative of the wider DNM participants.

Speaking to you is like listening to Trump speak. A whole lot of words so say absolutely nothing and dance around the topic of discussion. Anyone with half a working brain will avoid you and for good reason. Engaging with you is a waste of time and makes me feel dumber for the slight bit of faith I had that you could be transparent.

TLDR: You were selling Zene laced oxy. When called out you started shipping out inactive pills knowing they were going to be tested.
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago*
Do you read what I say? I think you have autism, but no worries I will explain you my little brain friend.

To clarify again, we purchased the oxy pills from a supplier who assured us they were pharma-grade. We tested them, and no fent or zene was detected. Some customers tested them too, and they were happy with the results. We’ve sold these with no complaints. The only issue we encountered was that they were low dosed, which made us question the pharma-grade quality, but we made sure to offer fair deals, which customers appreciated.

So why would I test my pills if customers like it and only complain is that it is underdosed? What part you dont understand?

No wonder many vendors aren’t active on Dread—people like you seem to make it difficult. Bleh..."
/u/nugget
1 points
3 months ago
Well that is very confusing BD.

Thanks for tagging me in /u/NarcoticsWorldwide, did you think I was going to miss this, or does this now fix everything and we can all forget about your refusal to remove the tainted product from the market?

/u/denizen, mate, what is your thoughts on this?

Any chance that you still have any of the tainted product floating around?

So, /u/bigdog729, am I reading this correct that these M30's contain no active substances? Does that mean they are an inert pill, no oxy, no zenes, no fent, no H, basically a sugar pill?

Is it 100% confirmed that this pill contains no opiate class substance, or am I reading this wrong?

If that is the case, it isnt much different to NWW supplying a zene laced pill, who knows what this pill contains now?

These M30's where marketed, sold, advertised and confirmed by NWW, after being directly asked on this forum, that they where 100% oxycodone pills, direct from the pharmacy. NWW was asked by two seperate members, and still assured dread, they where pharma oxy.

So, /u/bigdog729, do they contain oxycodone, oxycontin, oxynorm or any relative of the oxy family, as advertised and confirmed that they do, by the vendor, /u/NarcoticsWorldwide???

The answer to this, is as important as the answer, to why did /u/denizen detect zenes in his samples?

My suspicious mind is suggesting there was 2 bags of M30's, 1 had the zene laced pills, the others where a placebo. The customers got a handful of each, like a lucky draw?

Well /u/NarcoticsWorldwide, lets see what answers are given.

You may regret tagging in all these dread members, if you where selling an inert pill, containing no opiate substance, it is not the same class as a known deadly cut, but it is still scamming and ripping off your customers, dont you agree?

I wait in anticipation /u/bigdog729?
The pills where tested by multiple parties and no active compound of any type was found.

BD
/u/nugget
2 points
3 months ago
Ok, so the pills that the secret shopper got where inactive, containing no drugs at all, notably, no oxycodone?

/u/NarcoticsWorldwide

How do you explain BD's test results, of the M30's bought from you and tested at a lab?

Seems a bit odd?

No one is picking on you, these are facts that cant be disputed?
/u/WearyBuyerOG
1 points
3 months ago
On the back of this bigdog, how would you explain a vendor selling 100s of these pills and have a high demand for them if he had been shipping out oxys with ZERO active compounds? Do people like spending an arm and a leg to get some flavourless tic tacs?
I have zero clue, I try to avoid speculation but something is clearly afoot.

BD
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago
Hello,

I just tagged you and the others to share the accurate lab results. We sent multiple pills for testing after /u/denizen post, but there were some delays on the lab side, which is why it took a bit longer.

As for /u/denizen, don't worry. You won’t hear from him again because all he did was post about me and then disappear. Not really a surprise, though.

To clarify, we bought these oxy pills from a supplier who assured us they were pharma-grade. We tested them, and there was no fent or zene detected. A few customers tested them as well and liked the results. We sold them on the market with no complaints. The only issue we had was that they were low dosed, which made us question the pharma quality. However, we offered good deals to our customers, and they were satisfied with that.

I don’t want to make this bigger than it needs to be, but the lab results confirm that the pills don’t contain any harmful substances like zene. We’ll be relisting the oxy soon.

I’m not expecting any apologies from anyone, but I do ask for some respect towards other vendors. It feels like there’s a tendency to attack vendors when something goes wrong on their side. For example, /u/dontlaugh blocked me and banned me from /d/darknetaustralia when I responded to someone who, apparently, was 'shilling' me. It seems like anyone who posts something positive about me is quickly labeled a "shiller," which isn’t fair.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
2 points
3 months ago
you offered the shiller free product to continue shilling. just to clarify why i banned you.
/u/NarcoticsWorldwide
1 points
3 months ago*
For you everyone who is writing a positive post about us suddenly shilling. You know, from now one everyone who is writing a good review (which is shilling in your case) will receive free items from us.

While you are behind your laptop posting only negativity and for sure will go wanking after you finishg posting on Dread.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Godsend
1 points
3 months ago
you broke our subs rules, so you got banned. that's not spreading negativity - it's to stop vendors from trying to get an unfair advantage and leveling the playing field. offering free goods for positive reviews will just dilute the subjective reviews done by real users and actually harms the community. we're working on rule amendments to stop those that look to abuse the leniency of reviews and testing results for their own profits. these things should not be used as marketing tools and instead to inform the community and enhance harm reduction efforts. that hasn't been happening lately and you may have actually been on both sides of this - i don't know.

unfortunately vendors and people profiting from these behaviours like you skew the positives for the community.
/u/WearyBuyerOG
1 points
3 months ago
A few customers tested them and liked the results? The results being no active drug? Do you actually think through the words you put together.
/u/Astro80
1 points
3 months ago
Watching
More to be added very soon I promise!
/u/supernormal Tester
1 points
3 months ago*
I hope this puts an end to all the shit people have been spreading about Dirtshark. he doesn't deserve it
appreciate you sir
/u/[deleted]
1 points
3 months ago
Doesn't prove shit, they didnt use my sample i offered it to them for months.
We only have a budget and ability to test so many samples. I believe I provided you with a easy method to have your sample tested for free, your more than able to do so. I am offered up to 50 samples per month its just not feasible. https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlpHbHlkSE5vWVhKcg==# ketamine has had multiple samples tested by multiple parties I am confident it is as advertised.

BD
/u/SpaceExplorer
1 points
3 months ago
'Forum user' AKA NWW alt
WELL WELL WELL...............

I did inform you ALL this /u/l0GGER2020 kid was a complete liar on his original post that he then deleted.

i'm not sure how he convinced so many of you that after all this time, i had all of a sudden become some sort of con artist. all you had to do was take a minute to read my market reviews, he is literally the only one to make such ridiculous claims.
/u/bigdog729 how much was the lab testing for my ketamine samples?

i did not see your dread post requesting money for this until now
So we sent multiple samples for ftir, gcms, hplc and nmr. It cost several hundred dollars all said and done. It was worth it to see if there was any credence to the claims.

BD
/u/[deleted]
1 points
3 months ago
To be fair, he didnt even use my sample, i tried to send it to him. Oh well.
still tho, I think the right thing for you to do is atleast give half back.
Why would I keep this up for 4 nearly 5 months.
I've done ketamine for years and your acting like im a retard who knows nothing.

Explain why it was so shit and RC like, I've done 2fdck before and it was exactly that.

anyways, idgaf anymore, you know what you did was wrong
/u/[deleted]
1 points
3 months ago
Just wanted to also add, that I was not the only one who felt this way about your ketamine.
I did you a favor and finalized early after seeing you got screwed over by a exit scam and you couldn't even sympathize with me.

I'm not lying, I'm telling the truth when i say that your ketamine was the sketchiest shit ive ever snorted.
Idk what to say anymore, this is stupid, bigdog had the chance to get my samples but Ig the stars didnt align for that to happen
I might get my own FLIR test but whats the point, your not even going to refund or anything itll just be a waste of money.