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Asteria Commerce | Clearing the Air: Disproving Claims and Exposing Malicious Alts : AsteriaCommerce | Torhoo darknet markets

As some of you are aware, my name has come up in a few posts made by brand new accounts claiming things that are completely untrue. They are never able to support their claims because they aren't true.

We know who is behind the alts. I have raised the issue with the Dread staff, but so far, nothing has really been done.

Who is behind the alts?

A competitor offering a similar service to our own. They see our project having much more success than theirs, so they are attempting to discredit us by using their pool of alts that they have spent time maintaining for vote manipulation and targeted posts.

This competitor is https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdloyOWhkR05vYVdOcmQzUnU=# .

Goatchickwtn's service is horrible; he has faced numerous accusations of scams—many of them, in fact.

He has also leaked the IPs of the shops he runs for certain vendors. He is a complete amateur developer and has no idea what he is doing. It wasn't just once; he leaked the IP multiple times. His entire project is a law enforcement seizure waiting to happen.

Why should you not trust the things he and his alts have to say?

Well, first off, none of it has ever contained any evidence because it isn't true. Secondly, I operate a completely legitimate service, and any of the vendors I work with can tell you themselves how honest and transparent I am with them.

I hope this post helps clear up this entire messy situation. If you see any of his spam posts anywhere on Dread, please feel free to comment a link to this post. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.
/u/MrBacon420 P
5 points
5 months ago
I got banned from goatchicks channels also. "I smell bacon".

Not much of value was lost.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
I agree, he's a nuisance, and I never really wanted to get into any drama with anyone here. He has forced my hand by creating a lot of shit posts across multiple accounts with outlandish claims.

He's upset that I'm doing much better than he is, and his customers are coming to me after he has ghosted them following their payment for a shop from him.
/u/Demonic
4 points
5 months ago*
I’ll post the proof of goatchicks first and one of only two customers they have paying me a bounty and the cause of all of these issues when I get on desktop in an hour or so.

tldr; I unknowingly, (no idea RR was) a customer of goatchicks disclosed to roadrunna that a server IP of his new store was leaking on the clearnet and he mentioned it to goatchick who cried and said I’m lying, this is literally what caused goatchick to cry immensely and used all of their baby bottle alts to try come after me and somehow retardedly assumed and claimed I am an alt of Asteria simply because I had recently completed a paid pentest for his service a week before disclosing the leaking IP to RR.

This whole situation is literally retarded. Anyone reading this just has to check the quality of work provided by Asteria, to see that their service is exactly how it presents itself. All I do is align myself with services or inviduals, or market admins who I believe offer shit that is beneficial to the dread community. I could tag 5 market admins right now who would back my claims up but what’s the point? I don’t want to drag these busy people into literal baby bottle dread drama 🤣

Here’s the roadrunna ss I mentioned - **removed out of respect and request of RR**
/u/yammie
-2 points
5 months ago
the dump.li links you have included which you claim are evidence that exposes Goatchick don't even work. But I did find this...
http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/post/e38b9730ab8eb3892f79/#c-1e1d2c4c8c167e1857
I choose to believe the post from RoadRunnaSupport
/u/Demonic
2 points
5 months ago
You copy and paste the entire link into a browser, retard.
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
Calling someone a retard grow up what are you 12. Why Asteria would want to associate themselves with someone like this is beyond me they're far better off without you doesn't look good on them and going to cause ruining a good thing. As far as I know there are only a few vendors offering stores right now, don't even know what the fight is all about. Vendors can choose who they want to use for their service provider without all the bashing amongst each other. Both /u/asteria and https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdloyOWhkR05vYVdOcmQzUnU=# need to focus on their business instead of some stupid he said she said crap. Good luck to both of you.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
I agree that none of this should have ever begun. Unfortunately, goatchick started targeting my service shortly after it was launched, even in private to certain vendors.

I never wanted to get involved in any drama here, it's nothing but a waste of time. However, I also won't sit back and do nothing while another person attempts to discredit me with lies.
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
You keep bringing up stuff over and over without any proof so as far as that goes its all hearsay. If anyone of you actually have proof of something then show it otherwise its all FUD on both sides. So far the only proof that has been posted was by this demonic character who seems conveniently left out parts of the conversation judging but the the screenshots that goatchickwtn posted so again unless you have some proof of malicious acts both of you cut it out and why is demonic even taking shit on your behalf if hes not involved at all with Asteriacommerce. Handle your own business instead of getting these idiots who call other users "Retards"
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
1 points
5 months ago
Just looking into the situation as a whole would allow you to better understand it and realize that I am, in fact, not spreading FUD. I am simply explaining the situation and letting everyone know that if they see any more of these posts by alt accounts, they shouldn't take them seriously.

Also, I never told Demonic to defend me. The posts against me just happen to include him as well.

I'm hoping something can be done about these alt accounts. The only reason I created this thread is because somehow they were able to succeed in posting obvious lies and FUD. This is in no way a new problem. Something needs to be done about it. Certain services like to farm alt accounts to negatively target their competitors. This has been brought up as an issue by many users, so hopefully there will be a solution soon.
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
Ok you claim that there are multiple instances of IP leaks with their service. Drop some proof please. If this is the case its a serious security issue and they should not be allowed to operate sites which would harm vendors.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
I never saved the screenshots or messages, and it looks like Demonic was asked to withdraw any screenshots by a certain vendor out of respect to them and their business. So I think I will respect that and not continue to speak about that issue. The last thing I want to do is negatively affect any vendor's reputation.

This is not the only issue that I have brought up. Goatchick has scam accusations, and his own vendors are complaining that he has ghosted them or keeps stalling weeks after their payment. He continues to lie in posts with no proof, and it's pretty obvious which alts are his if you look into their history and their replies.

I have spoken to a few individuals in private as well. As much as I would like to share screenshots or ask them to weigh in, no vendor wants to be involved with this either. So my suggestion to you would be to use the search function in the top right corner and do further research yourself to find what you are looking for.
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
Again anything both of you claim without backing it up with proof is just here say unless you have some actual evidence. Do you have some proof they were paid and didn't deliver something block out usernames works just as well.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
When a vendor contacts me, they expect it to be private. I'm not burning bridges and losing money to prove a point here. There's comments you can find by using the search bar, it won't consume much of your time either. So like I said, this is what I would suggest to you.
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
So all FUD upon more FUD I suggest both of you ignore each other and conduct your businesses professionally there is no need for all this shit talk. Good luck to both of you.
/u/yammie
-1 points
5 months ago
Okay so the screenshots show that you told RoadRunna something that you framed as a technical vulnerability, and were paid some money for it. But you conveniently omit the messages where you actually communicate the issue. What I understand is you ran a traceroute on the clearnet site and learned the IP of the server running that clearnet site. Any other information you have tried to extrapolate from this is conjecture. Namely that the IP of the server running the hidden service had been leaked. How could you possibly know that? That is the "big claim" against Goatchick's credibility, and I havn't seen any proof that makes sense to me..
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
There have been multiple instances of IP leaks. Additionally, you are either an alternate account of Goatchick or an associate of Goatchick. To anyone viewing from the outside, this account was dormant until recently, when it began commenting on posts that suit Goatchick, whether that be attempting to boost Goatchick's customers' posts, Goatchick's own posts, or in this thread where you pretend not to be Goatchick or an associate of Goatchick and claim to have had a good experience with him.

The alts are becoming even more and more obvious, keep them coming.
/u/yammie
-1 points
5 months ago
Associate would be accurate. I talk to Goatchick pretty much every day. Generally the only time I open Tor is when she sends me a link
/u/biosphere P
4 points
5 months ago
Everything written about /u/demonic user is complete bullshit.
/u/demonic contacted me when I was having problems with Atlas market and explained to me what was really happening ( with proof )
He did not ask for payment for his services, even though this is a person I don't know.
I've never had any dealing with him before.
But he just wrote me this :
"I just find it strange that he didn't alert dread users that the thing he reported could be the reason atlas is fucking over their vendors... so I jumped into action, probably burning my relationship with that person, but protecting vendors and buyers at atlas is more of a priority"
I form my mind about people by what they do.
So no one can convince me that such person could be a scammer.
/u/Hektor
3 points
5 months ago
Carry on with your project, until they will fix the baby bottled accounts everyone will face fud.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
Hopefully they can enact some measures to defend against it in the future. Many users here can't distinguish facts from fud. :)
/u/Peasants
3 points
5 months ago
If you look at goatchickwtn's service subdread you can see there is an accusation that they're scamming their own customers, maybe if they spent more time on providing a service instead of trying to troll other competitors they wouldn't be in this position, truly a sad state of affairs.

Imagine only just starting a service and already scamming people.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
3 points
5 months ago
I'm aware of the public accusations made against him by some individuals, as well as some that have been communicated to me through private channels.

The gross negligence on his part is profound, and I'm not sure how he has maintained an image to the point where anyone still has any interest in dealing with him. I guess most people just don't do their due diligence and trust whatever they see in a post.

I hope someone can put an end to this, and that he can face consequences in some way. Perhaps this post will help shed light on his wrongdoing if it can gain enough visibility.
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
2 points
5 months ago
>[u]https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdloyOWhkR05vYVdOcmQzUnU=#[/u].
you tag didnt work https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdloyOWhkR05vYVdOcmQzUnU=#
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
4 points
5 months ago
Thank you, I fixed it.
/u/Octopus
2 points
5 months ago
/u/Asteria, keep calm and carry on. do you own thing.
Sadly to say, but this place reeks lately by cockroaches and trolls who get a hard-on from obsessing the best users here :-)
The thing they don't get into their stupid little heads is that track-record will always show the real value of vendor/service.
Let them try. in our case, it just brought in more business, which we had to turn down. remember: haters will hate. fuck them.
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
1 points
5 months ago
Thank you for the advice and support! :)

I'm trying to keep a level head about it. To be honest, this situation didn't just start now; it has been ongoing but has recently gotten worse. I was initially ignoring it, allowing them to talk trash to users in private, downvote my posts, and occasionally post FUD. However, now they seem to be more angered, and it's escalated, so I was hoping that addressing the situation through a post could help improve things.

Fortunately, all of my customers are aware that it's nothing but spam targeting my service. I had one customer reach out inquiring about the recent posts made by an alt, but they already knew it wasn't true.

My service definitely speaks for itself, and I know my customers have nothing but great things to say about me, which is evident from their own public comments on Dread.

I just hope none of this drama will affect the opinions of any future vendors who might have been interested had I not been targeted with such rumors and lies.
/u/Demonic
2 points
5 months ago
I apologise if any bullshit that follows me from baby bottles/retards, negatively affects your service mate, never my intention, but I know and hold high hopes that the quality of your service will always shine through any garbage from fools :)
/u/Harlom
2 points
5 months ago
Only seen solid, quick access hosting from you so far, baby bottles will continue to spread misinformation. Thank you for clarifying
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
1 points
5 months ago
I'm glad you've noticed our reliability, this is what I work hard towards providing!
/u/TryptaMagic
2 points
5 months ago
So far /u/asteria has been proving themselves to our team to be nothing but helpful. Im not totally sure the details of whatever drama is being thrown at them.. But all I know is that their competition has some work cut out for them. Thank you for your great service thusfar, you deserve some praises for all of your hard work!
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
1 points
5 months ago
Thank you! I am very glad I've been able to offer you a service in which you feel positive about.
/u/g0atchickwtn
1 points
5 months ago
im gay and canadian
/u/recurringrevenue
1 points
5 months ago
Must be why your in this sub then go gender equality.
/u/yammie
-1 points
5 months ago
My experience dealing with Goatchick has been good and I believe she knows what she's doing when it comes to development. I have web developement knowledge myself and have asked Goatchick a lot of questions about the technical aspects of creating a hidden service and she has always been able to answer my questions. I have seen enough from her to know that she's the real deal
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
2 points
5 months ago
That's great and all, but it still doesn't change the fact that there are instances in which he has acted unprofessionally, ghosted his customers, leaked his server's IP, and blatantly spread lies about my service.

Additionally, it takes more than just knowing web development to host these kinds of sites safely; it requires a lot more knowledge. From my discussions with them, they don't seem to know much. I tried to explain URL routing to them, but without any success.

They also made a thread in response to this discussion and lied again. It seems they have no actual defense and resort to random, unthought out, and unproven claims.

Of course, there are some instances in which he has remained legitimate to his customers; otherwise, he would have been exposed sooner.
/u/uchiamara
-2 points
5 months ago
I don't think goatchick is as bad a guy as you say.

I've worked with him several times before and he was fine.

He was always honest and the service was great too.

Can you explain why you say this?
/u/Asteria 📢 P CEO
1 points
5 months ago*
It was explained in the post, but you can do your own due diligence and uncover accusations in comments and threads across Dread. The IP leak has also been substantiated in comments under multiple posts.

While you may not have had any issues with him, that doesn't mean others haven't.

I have experienced problems with him and his unprofessional attempts to compete with my service. His customers have also faced issues doing business with him. multiple users have made accusations against him, and he has made mistakes that should not occur when running a hidden service. These mistakes should not go unnoticed.

I didn't care about him until he made it my problem by spreading FUD and misinformation against my service in an attempt to boost his own and undermine mine. That's when I decided to speak out against his wrongdoing and negligence.

Also, you appear to be a newly created account who's only activity is the comment you left on this post, so your comment cannot be taken seriously. This isn't meant to offend you, in case you are genuinely not one of his alt accounts.
/u/uchiamara
-1 points
5 months ago
Thank you for your reply.

Can you be more specific?