Besides Dread, Which is the best RC forum? : rcsources

3 points

5 years ago

Chemsforum is probably the best source of information, but I don't like that it is inaccessible from TOR.

We are trying here! I promise. Newbie pretty much runs this bitch cause I'm a junkie.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I just started my Chemsforum journey. Probably I will pay for a advertise there from next month.
Now I post there very carefully. Afraid of to be banned. :D

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

2 points

5 years ago

LOL!!! At one time I was a mod on chemforum but I too got banned!!

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I posted advertise there. Then banned in short time.
Now I use it very carefully.
Next month, maybe will pay for a advertise. I don't want to be banned again.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

If you pay they will think twice before banning you. LOL

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I don't know. They handed their advertise to a third party. I am now researching on it. If it worth, I will pay for sure.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

I did not realize that. Thanks for the info.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I applied a thread on vendors. I told the Admin I am a verified vendor on Dread and DBG.
Now I am banned because I mentioned darknet.
I think I have to quit Chemsforums. I can't understand the rules.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

LOL!!! I got banned on Chemforum too, from mod to banned. it is not you. The rules are designed to allow the ban hammer to fall on anyone that they want to use it on.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I prefer DBG and Dread. I don't know how to deal with Chemsforum.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

It is a pity because the Chemforum setup is nice. If under new management it would be awesome

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

It's true.

/u/StompWaffle Misunderstood

1 points

5 years ago

Seriously, I made an account, made TWO posts in 25 minutes, and got banned for spam. I don't understand lmao.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Truly, I think the Admins there don't like our ID. :D
My banned it till 2020 June. So I quited.

/u/Nevachu

1 points

5 years ago

I made an account because of newbie lol never used it though.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

Unlike dbg, chemforum are no criminals. They would't be allowed to take money from you for advertising, that would make them drug dealers.

/u/listlessdeity

1 points

5 years ago

link?

/u/chemtrail junkie mod

3 points

5 years ago

https://www.chemforum.org/

Clearnet only though.

/u/listlessdeity

1 points

5 years ago

thank you!

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

If you afraid that LE could someday confiscate their servers, they probably won't care about IP addresses of average members and rather go for vendors, I think. I recently found out that Proton VPN offers a free version, which is slower than the paid for version, but will still hide your real IP and be fast enough for surfing the web. It comes with a nice feature called tunnel splitting, which allows you to tell the software to only route e.g. Firefox browser through the VPN tunnel while all your other internet traffic will directly access internet through your Internet Service Provider and be fast as ever. Maybe give this feature a try and visit chemforum through Firefox and the VPN connection that hides your real IP.

/u/goldenwolfman

1 points

5 years ago

why not just entering with tor?

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

Because I use the computer for working and not for hiding--.

With JS disabled the any many features missing in TOR, the slow speed, I would have to switch browsers depending on the website I am going to surfing to...? That's not me.

Also, I don't buy drugs there, it's an information, sourcing and harm reduction forum. Mentioning scheduled substances will result in banning you for a while (from 2 weeks up to 6 months), but they tend to be more generously lately.

The guy who runs the forum made some planning mistakes that makes it a bit complicated to use, it takes a while before you understand where this and where that is allowed to be mentioned. Still, it's way more easy to handle than e.g. dread.

PS: No one will imprison you for discussing in a forum.

Since you are probably from the US, and the mentally challenged orange ape whom you made your leader, allowed Internet Service providers to track, safe and sell your internet habits to e.g. future employers or insurance companies together with your real name, I'd recommend free proton VPN with it's tunnel splitting. Use Edge for anything drug / RC related and e.g. Chrome for everything else. Edge will be run anonymous, Chrome and everything else at usual speed.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, send me a PM, I might explain this to you in a sort of handbook with describing the easy steps and which feature is actually doing what,

If not next week, then please allow me up to a month, I don't have plans currently, but I've gotten sick and need to see a specialist on Monday or Tuesday. If he says I should not read/write/watch tv/ etc. but lay in bed, instead, I will sure do so.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Going to have to call a foul on that. We are a team!

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

hi, Can you contact me through wickr or whatsapp? I have some questions on Chemsforum. Maybe you can help.

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1 points

5 years ago

Wickr is a favorite method for scammers to steal your money. Know your vendor before sending your hard earned money to them

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/u/SwissBlotters

3 points

5 years ago

To be honest, I think the best places to talk where you find direct chemist not insta-banning you for whatever out of their BIBLE or rules on chemforums - RC Discords Servers are the best place.
And reddit , r//researchchemicals for whatever rc news is pretty good, of course no sourcing. And for opioids, /r/Opioid_RCs/
Avengers is not much going on, but something nice info for particular substances.
DBG is a nice community and acts as a very working "interface".
Drugs-forum and bluelight are more organized than reddit rc sub, but normally info comes later on them.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I think DBG is really a nice place.
Bluelight I got banned.
Reddit i only watching, few posting.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

2 points

5 years ago

Reddit is easy to get banned at if you announce that you are a vendor. They really cracked down on sourcing.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

true. Tired of marketing on reddit.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Reddit is more difficult to market on anyway because since the sourcing ban scammers have popped up everywhere, sending pm's to redditors who show any interest in product in their comments. The members are often new and don't realize that they are about to send money to someone who has never been anything but a thief.

/u/cyrilio real OG

1 points

5 years ago

It is prohibited in their rules so announcing you're a vendor is suicide, If you keep to the general and subreddit rules then there's nothing to worry about

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

2 points

5 years ago

One hundred percent accurate. That is how the scammers manage to survive too, by staying low key in the background and then when they see a customer mention wanting a product well then he just so happen to have that very product on sale and sends the member a direct message.

/u/SwissBlotters

1 points

5 years ago*

Here on the main thread about sources, our good mod keep it well organized.
As I said, there are a lot of Discord RC Servers, some made pretty well with bots displaying reviews made from buyers, sellers get manually verified / asked to provide samples before selling and so on.

Strictly but simples rules: nothing is for human consumptions, and any illegal drugs (even RC that got banned) cannot be discussed/sold.
From time to time or on other forums you will see some ads of such Discords RC Servers.

@ /u/newbieforever2018 : I know most of them are private, but should not be an official Server for this Sub, with the same functions?

If you are concerned about security, then - like every other server should so as well - Keybase.io is absolutely the most safe IM , and absolutely easy to setup and working on any device. It's open source, your can use your own PGP Keys, or for the users who just want to login, server generates for your the keys, and the private key is kept only on your device, server does not keep any private key and can be seen from the sources if a dev want to check it out ;)

I think this will help a lot to keep safe, organized, and be a better solution than the source thread that is harder to maintain and not easy to find information, on Keybase is possible to create different channel and get almost everything like on discord, but absolutely on a totally other level of security where any public or private message goes out/in encrypted, and it would be a nice thing to split the info about legit/approved sellers already sorted by regions making proper channels - EU, USA, ASIA.

In that way, is also not need to keep specifying all ToS and blahblah about human consumption. As I said, everything is encrypted and no "keyase operator" will close down a group.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Have tried BCM?
(https://s.bcm.social/member/1c9g6N#MWVLK )
it seems to be a more secure chating tool.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Thank you. I need to investigate that one too!

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

I definitely need to look into Keybase. Thanks so much for sharing!

/u/formula2chems

1 points

5 years ago

Keybase.io is a very good solution compared to discord indeed, but keybase can not be used as a webapplication unless you install the mozilla extension right?

/u/SwissBlotters

1 points

5 years ago

Keybase is definitely the most secure, in term of communication, usability and multi-plattforms.
Some ethical hackers friends reported me atm is definitely the most safe way if you want to keep your privacy.
Open source = any dev can see there are no tricks no traps on it
PGP Keys = the fact you can use your OWN pgp key, that remains ONLY on your device, is definitely something no other tool is offering (except RCLeon suggestion, didn't check yet), and the fact for the users not practical with PGP, the server will generate for you the public and private key, and store in the same way only on your device the private key, make is easy to register even more than discord
- Both in public channel and private channel you can upload files, that of course get encrypted as well, no need to use external clearnet links

And you have definitely almost all the functions of discord, except voice chat, but who cares about this?
Discords is really the less safe things ever, all plain text, server monitored from admin, PM included, and of course all IP Adresses logged.

Any serious RC trading platform must be built on Keybase if you want your privacy back and stay safe even in your PMs ;)
(or BCM, if it's something just released and also open source could worth a shot)

/u/formula2chems

1 points

5 years ago

true keybase is very good multiple platform etc and discord also works very closely with authorities,

/u/SwissBlotters

1 points

5 years ago

yes, they logall IP and even PM message. i know now many dumb ppm sent cleartext his delivery address with discord..
I think this botn just because the rc scene us now handled from the "new generaltion" so they use the tooly they know..but totally not considerng opsec.. Of course i am not generalizing, ther are som very smart..but the trendy is so,

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

What do you mean that discord works very closely with authorities? If that is the case then why don't they put in place a reddit type sourcing ban? Do you have proof of this?

/u/formula2chems

2 points

5 years ago

the spokesperson of discord explained further. "We work closely with law enforcement agencies in their investigations when appropriate to ensure and strengthen the safety of our community members." source: Report: FBI investigating groups using Discord for cyber crime. Discord is a real nice tool to use, i just wish there was a similair application using full E2E Encryption and encrypting metadata, zero js and hosted outside of the US or 14 eyes countries

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Thanks for that. Yes I believe that there was an article not long ago stating that gun sales and kiddie porn were being sold on discord. Surprisingly no mention was made of any drug sales going on there. Regardless it is a clearnet public access venue so privacy should not be expected there.

/u/formula2chems

1 points

5 years ago

very true, there was also a case of 14 year old being groomed on discord by predators and the kid went missing not sure about the exact details tho, its only logical for authorities to go after discord since its only becoming more and more popular everday. luckily dread has chatrooms now hope more RC discord users migrate to dread :p

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Discord is fast and not subject to ddos attacks. When Dread is more consistent more users will migrate here for sure

/u/SwissBlotters

1 points

5 years ago

/u/newbieforever2018 told you since long, push all the discords communities to leave discord and go to keybase. its possible even to make BOTs for vending with a bit of patience.
Of course somebody could think as long as the people are selling only non-banned rc, the whole is safe. but then? if a compond become illegal, they have anyway tons of data, ip, addresses or whatever to keep an eye on sellers or bulk buyers.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

I already am on keybase but old habits die hard and discord is easy to use and as with reddit sourcing subs people won't leave until the bans occur.

/u/SwissBlotters

1 points

5 years ago

You are right, but I'm sure that if you manage to get a BOT to manage all the reviews/sales/etc, people will move ;) it will take some work but for sure an interesting possibility, while we are waiting for the de-centralized DNMs to be finally available to the public.

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

I am not to bot smart. I am lucky to be able to get one to backup the channels on a forum. Of course my cheap ass has been using the free ones.

/u/SayCheese

1 points

5 years ago

Keybase works, hopefully all users know how to set it up, like Signal or any other app, if you didn't set it up right its rendered useless.

/u/omega3

1 points

5 years ago

For sure, thanks for the share.

/u/Nevachu

1 points

5 years ago

I stopped using the discord. There are tons of people on there which is good and bad. Lots of children doing retarded shit. Somehow I got involved in teenage drama. Lol Too much for me.

/u/StompWaffle Misunderstood

1 points

5 years ago

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/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

2 points

5 years ago

Drug Buyers Guide drugbuyersguide.net
Should be DBG.
Nice admins there. But I didn't get many buyers there. However I still think it is a good forum.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

Maybe because they work with fake accounts for promoting sponsors and dissing their competitors. The forum makes thousands of dollars each month, but is dead as a desert. Also, doesn't it bother you that they do deals with Mexican drug cartels who send out fake meds with wrong ingedients.

Even for a drug dealer, your morals seem somewhat low ;-)

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

DBG is a good forum. I am not advertise for them. But I know what I am dealing with.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago*

If you cannot sense a problem with

HAVING TO PAY TO BECOMING LISTED A TRUSTED VENDOR

THAT FORUM MEMBERS ARE CONSTANTLY INVITED TO BREAK THE LAW

by ordering

SCHEDULED DRUGS

STEROIDS

ILLICIT PHARMACEUTICS

and at last

THEM BEING CRIMINALS BY MAKING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WITH THEIR ILLEGAL FORUM

...then YEAH, let's celebrate: USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

@ /u/RCLeon

You seem an alright guy, but maybe rather try to avoid sentences containing words like

I know

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

2 points

5 years ago

For the first time I got to Chemsform. After many days, very difficult to get contact with the admin. But they think I am a scammer. Then I provided the my Dread records want to prove my legit. Then I was banned because of refering to darknet.

But when I first got to DBG. The admin contacted me. And they went to discord to check my legit. After confirmed of my legit, they asked me to pay for my own topic.

The DBG's way is what I can accept. Not the chemsform, ban ban ban without lisen to me.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

From a vendor's perspective, who is willing to pay to be listed as trusted vendor, I see why you prefer DBG. Also, it's really fast and looks modern. But for its members, it's a scam since they would not allow non-paying vendors receiving positive reviews...

I was also banned from Chemsforum again for posting in a wrong thread... It's becoming somewhat ridiculous over there :-D

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Yeah Chemsforum admin is on a power trip and very rude. Banned us as well, a long time ago. Not worth it.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Long time since our last business. How are you.

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Doing okay, thank you! I hope you are safe and doing okay with this virus going around.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I am ok. But I was hacked week ago.
Please save my current contacts:

Email: Godchems@tutanota.com; Godchems@gmail.com; Leon170624@gmail.com

Whatsapp: +8618653530041

Wickr: RCLeon

Skype: daliang622

Website: Godchems.com

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Z3ryzn09

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Heard about that. Glad nothing worse happened! I would also agree with the autoMod to change those gmail addresses. You're a good guy, we want you safe!

Just to remind everyone, I believe the admin of AlphaBay's demise was a gmail account he used on a completely unrelated forum.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Thank you. That's why I am now starting to try tutanota mail.

/u/SwissBlotters

2 points

5 years ago

both tutanota and protonmail are not as safe as you think.

there is no warranty servers are not holding a copy of private pgp keys.
If you gonna do enough big deals to attract LE, you risk to get compromised anyway.

Keybase, Signal or Dust, or use any mail provider, bur always encrypt with pgp locally.
And of course always be on multi-hop vpns when using clearnet email providers.

/u/WhatsMyNameAgain

1 points

5 years ago

Just to remind everyone, I believe the admin of AlphaBay's demise was a gmail account he used on a completely unrelated forum.

Well.....sort of..... It wasn't exactly a point in his favor, but then again, neither were the outlandish pictures of him bragging about all his money, or, you know, the unencrypted server in his own name in - of all places - bloody Canada (his birth country).

I would argue that his "demise" was less due to a gmail account and more due to a general diregard for anything that resembled OpSec...or, you know...sense....

Having said that, another market admin made that lazy mistake, and in his case, it was significantly more devastating, as it was one of his few, at least by comparison: DPR registered for a forum where he first dropped mention of SR with his own gmail acct. I feel the need to point out though that in neither case was it actually the email service in question that was the problem; it was how each man used it, what he did with it, and most critically, THE NAME HE STUCK ON IT!!

Just sayin.....

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I remember those pictures of him by his car and his huge mansion. Didn't DPR also get way more attention when he ordered multiple drivers licenses and/or passports? It was either him or one of the other market admins. Can't remember now.

/u/WhatsMyNameAgain

1 points

5 years ago

He did order a bunch of fake IDs, yeah, but that in and of itself isn't what increased the attention he got. The vendor sent each one individually, which would ordinarily be ideal for someone concerned about authorities or roommates or whoever opening one large envelope stuffed with identities that all have their face but half a dozen different names. Part of the problem was that the vendor dropped them all in the mail at the same time, so there were like 6 (I think? It's been a while, sorry) identical envelopes, all going the exact same place at the exact same time, each with the exact same handwriting and each with a completely different return address, half of which didn't even match the postal code they got sent from, which, if I recall correctly, ended up catching someone's notice at the post office. It resulted in more attention, yes, but it wasn't the nail in the coffin; for all the feds knew at the time, he could just as easily have wound up being another buyer on the market; nothing about the fraudulent identities or their discovery was indicative of his running the place, it was just evidence that he was involved in some kind of criminal activity, most likely a con artist. His case was a clusterfuck from the jump. Which makes sense, really, given just the lack of precedent for either him or the feds to go off of. That's the problem with being the first.

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Thanks for the reply, I definitely remember the multiple packs now. Yeah, I've read all of the legal documents from his court trial. I'm really impressed with how he has conducted himself since being incarcerated. Teaching and all that. Things just got out of control for him, but his work certainly lives on today.

/u/AutoModerator M Pending moderator approval

0 points

5 years ago

You should not be using gmail because it is horrible opsec. Tutanota and Protonmail are better choices.

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/u/WhatsMyNameAgain

1 points

5 years ago

Yes, we know. Nobody's disagreeing with that sentiment. Google is fucking evil. The thing is, I often feel like they get shit on a lot for things that aren't actually their fault. Don't get me wrong, there is an outrageously unacceptable amount of shit that IS their fault, I'm just trying to explain that just because they suck dirty ass, collect and sell everybody's data, shove ads in our faces, spy on us, sell more of our data, pretend to be helpful so they can harvest more of our data and oh, you guys know that they tailor your search results - specifically in the "shopping" tab - based on your geolocation to always give you the most expensive results of the thing you searched for that Google believes you'll pay - again, based on your location...oh right, and your purchase history. Google is fucking heinous, no doubt. The only problem is, they didn't sift through the millions and billions of gigabytes of everyone's data specifically searching for market admins. They made glaring mistakes that had everything to do with their own actions and really not anything at all to do with which email provider they just so happened to have registered an address with that they proceeded to use in the most reckless way possible. Google didn't hand them over to the feds; I feel like, despite being an overall disgusting company with appalling business practices, they're guilty of a LOT of shit, just....Not so guilty of anything that led to the arrests of either admin in question. (Please, if that understanding is inaccurate, I'd appreciate it if you'd steer me in the right direction.)

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Fantastic comment and my favorite part was " to always give you the most expensive results". LOL

/u/WhatsMyNameAgain

1 points

5 years ago

LOL I could rant and rave about how loathsome Google is for Days on end....for real though, they don't find you the cheapest listing of whatever you search for, which is fine, since they're a search engine, not a coupon catalogue. What they Will do though is give you, based on what you've paid for other stuff and based on what the thing you're looking for costs in the area you're in, give you the listings that cost the most they think you'll pay for it. Which is pretty fucked up, if you ask me. The last thing I want is for Google to be doing my thinking for me. Finding shit is one thing, but deciding how much of my money should go toward shit I need is another. Fuck Google, for real. :)

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

I do not use gmail for personal info but do use their search engine for many things for example to find out what type of products are available and then search elsewhere, ebay for example, for the best price

/u/AutoModerator M Pending moderator approval

0 points

5 years ago

You should not be using gmail because it is horrible opsec. Tutanota and Protonmail are better choices.

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/u/Researching

1 points

5 years ago

What is DBG?

/u/crazycrayon

2 points

5 years ago

Apparently an RC Forum, but does anyone have the address for it?

/u/locksof

1 points

5 years ago

https://www.drugbuyersguide.net/

/u/Chowisnow

1 points

5 years ago

Its not just RC. Thats actually where i started and still use the forums today. Great community definitely recommended

/u/simple

2 points

5 years ago

They charge you 15 USD or more to get access to a "trusted vendors" list that holds 20 vendors which all had to pay to be listed there. You are right, it's not all about RCs, also Steroids and illegal online pharmacies from e.g. Mexico are listed. These guys running that forum are criminals, making a fortune out of it ....no matter how friendly they might seem.

/u/WhatsMyNameAgain

1 points

5 years ago

Bro. We're All criminals. And some of us are trying to make a fortune out of it, too. Is it shady of them? For sure. Does it mean they're inherently evil? Nah. Think of it this way: If you're a "vendor" but nobody wants your shit because you're Actually just scamming the fuck out of people, how likely are you to pay someone else to put your name out there? Paying to be placed on a Preferred Vendor's list isn't going to do you any good if, when the orders start rolling in, you have no product to send people. You'll manage to make a little bit of cash off the first few orders that come from people who don't know yet that you're full of shit, but once nothing shows up, they're gonna have something to say about it. On a forum that's all about the drugs you're claiming to sell. If the admins of that forum keep placing scammers on their Preferred Vendors list, it wouldn't take very long for word to get out that paying for the list is pointless because you may or may not ever get the shit you're trying to buy, which ultimately loses those admins money. Is it gross that they're getting paid by vendors to vouch for them? Yeah. Is it gross that they're getting paid by buyers for the list they're charging vendors to be on? Definitely. But so long as the list is full of honest vendors who aren't just ripping people off left and right, then fuck it, so what, you know? Let the admins make their money where they can, imo.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

The thing is, there are more reliable vendors out there, than those eight that pay for being listed there. It's a totally biased forum driven by money. One could as well run such a forum without charging from vendors and visitors, I don't see the point why they are so eager on money. I do not even put ads on things I publish, I create things hoping that others will find them funny, helpful or interesting. And advertising illicit pharmaceutics to me seems a tad too much, to be honest.

/u/cyrilio real OG

1 points

5 years ago

Can you recommend any RC discord servers?

/u/SwissBlotters

2 points

5 years ago

Most Discord Servers became private / on invitation only. I can't help since I am not selling there / got no invites. You may ask to Mod of this Sub.

True about DBG. But they are very good in keeping things clean and "source" free, this forum is active since many years on clearnet.
Of course there are some scammers as well, but they are spotted after a few sales, just stick with the sellers active since long time and you will be fine. Many legit pharma products, few RCs (but those are a lot easier to buy from other clearnet sites or discord servers), and I heard the "mexican pharmacies" got more than pharmaceuticals, but I never checked personally.

/u/cyrilio real OG

1 points

5 years ago

I might have a Russian pharmaceutical drugs vendor bookmarked. not sure if its still online though.

/u/miked + 1

1 points

5 years ago

rcvendors.eu is convenient to check out posts about therealrc.com
..no account needed and ongoing 165+ pg thread which TRRC posts to

aside from that its a ton of spam

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

True thing. I am tired of rcvendors.eu. If the admins can work better, kill the spams, it would be a nice place.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

They say that 3mmc.org was to fiance the board with chempirate being only a sponsor. I doubt that the admins there would work at all anymore.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I tried to contact the Admins. But no response.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

Their admins are not working anymore.

BIG NEWS, however: Last week, gheorgherr announced that he had sold the domain.

This could change everything, meaning the board would become new sponsors and mods again.

Please see https://forum.rcvendors.eu/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=87773&p=116753#p116753

PS: Can you also ship from within the EU or is it China and US only? Thx.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

Chemsforum and Dread so far seem the most friendly and what really matters: They seem unbiased, at least at first glance, while other forums make a fortune with membership fees, advertising and sponsorships...

A "Trustd vendors" list usually is a list a list of generous sponsors...

The Vendor Superlist here is not bad for starters, and will hopefully improve over time. The people here seem nice and I don't need to be afraid of being banned any moment, like with chemforum ;-)

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Dread is perfect. I just don't know how to go on with Chemsforum. Banned and banned again.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago*

Don't post shit. Vendors have separated threads: one is for reviews only, one is for general talk about the vendor. Before you recommend a new vendor, you are supposed to ask him if he was okay with being discussed on the forum.

NEVER MENTION SCHEDULED DRUGS. Temporarily scheduled drugs are scheduled as well. US law is what counts, even if you were from a country with different laws.

NEVER COMPARE ANYTHING TO A SCHEDULED DRUG.

Do not ask for invites.

DO NEVER MENTION ANY DARKNET SITES.

DO NOT SELL STUFF VIA PM.

NO HUMAN CONSUMPTION TALK, NO TRIP REPORTS

On top of the page, there is a huge link that says RULES, maybe think of reading it ;-D

I wish you good luck with that!

/u/ezekiel2320

1 points

5 years ago

I've heard good things about chemforum.org but can't really vouch for it. Rcvendors.eu is kinda wild west but it's worth looking at the vendor reviews threads with a lot of posts in it. There's also headspace.to but it's on invites only

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

headspace? What's that? Can you invite me there?

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago

headspace.to is German forum, their admins are without a doubt criminals. I wouldn't know someone with an invite either, but from time to time they open registration and you can apply for an account by introducing yourself and I you'r e lucky, they will provide you with an account. If you are a serious business, meaning you pay taxes etc., I would avoid it. They have two main sponsors, The Real Rc and foche.ch and are - besides from being crooks - focusing at the German market.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

It's a German website. I can't read.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago*

Both these two will automatically translate websites within a second (only works on desktop computers though):

New Microsoft Edge Chromium
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTkzZDNjdWJXbGpjbTl6YjJaMExtTnZiUzlsYmkxMWN5OWxaR2Rs#

Chrome
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTkzZDNjdVoyOXZaMnhsTG1OdmJTOXBiblJzTDJWdUwyTm9jbTl0WlM4PQ==#

You make 50.000 bucks a year with selling drugs, you pay no taxes to keep it all to yourself, but at the same time, you cannot handle a web browser? Dude, if you ever needed a Guru or a manager, some entourage or a just helping hand - I'm available!

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

The translation is terrible.
I used Dopek, after translation, cant understand anything.

/u/simple

1 points

5 years ago*

Yeah, Polish forums are a tough nut to crack for automated translation, I know.

I also visit Dopek from time to time, and sometimes, I would read a product review but could not even tell if the review was a positive or a negative one :-D

People in Poland use very colorful language, with many idioms, sayings, slang - and all that cannot be translated properly yet. But that is only an issue with forums, translating web shops works like a charm!

! Please note that Dopek would switch to English for all visitors coming from outside Poland. This makes your web browser think the website is in Polish anyway, but indeed the "English" version of Dopek all in Polish....

So how to fix this:

On the dopek website, in the top left corner, there are buttons. One of them allows you to switch between English and Polish. Switch back to the Polish flag (the one with the white and red lines) and let your browser translate the page again. Now translation should be a lot better to understand, even though some idioms and slang will still be a miracle.

! I assume you want to advertise there? They take new sponsors and can even provide you with logos and banners created by their graphic designers. Either send an email to admin@dopek.info or use this contact form: https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTlrYjNCbGF5NXBibVp2TDJGd2NDNXdhSEF2WTI5dWRHRmpkR0ZrYldsdQ==#. In the contact form, the first field is NAME, the second is EMAIL and the third one is YOUR MESSAGE.

You're welcome btw, I may ask you for a small favour in return in a couple of weeks, though ;-)

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

Just curious, why do you not use any markets? Sure, they will all eventually close down and we've personally lost around 8K or so from all of these, but the payoff is ABSOLUTELY worth it. No need for emails or chit chat. Just accept the order, decrypt the address and ship. I have experience with almost every market so if you'd like to message me with questions I'd love to help!

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

1 points

5 years ago

Thanks for your generous offer. That seems to be the standard with many Chinese vendors, market avoidance.
/u/RCLeon you should consider taking TT up on his offer.

/u/Tranquil_Treats Trusted Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

True, most are pretty much "email only". I just have seen him really putting his name out there lately, and want to help but in a safe way. With his pricing, he would destroy the competition.

Just for those that have not used a Chinese supplier recently, they have mostly all seriously upped their shipping game. EMS, customs, signatures...all a thing of the past. Packs are repacked in the US, and arrive like any other mail. USPS or FedEx track numbers. Its pretty impressive actually!

/u/newbieforever2018 P 🐕≡≡==ヽ(ﾟεﾟヽ))

2 points

5 years ago

Agreed. What do we hate most about international orders? The customs risk! These vendors that send to a local warehouse and then ship to the customer domestic mail from there really put the customer at ease. I too was impressed by how quickly RCLeon adapted to Dread. In no time flat I see him posting ads on a whole slew of subdreads.

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

We are using a different "internet". There're many blocks of internet in China.
It's not so easy to handle a darknet market in China.
When my VPN fucked up. It may be weeks that I can't get on darknet.

/u/VanilaCream

1 points

5 years ago

what is DBG address?

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

https://www.drugbuyersguide.net/

/u/Nevachu

1 points

5 years ago

Interested in checking it out. Made an account but hasn't been approved.

/u/kboxo

1 points

5 years ago

im interested in rc synthetic cannabinoids
want to make my shit to smoke :D

all i get on the clearnet are too weak or to bad or got no rc in

what rc should I use to make a "magic tabac"
and how much rs did i need for 100g tabak

can i get some free samples of rc ro find my favorite?

gives it a vendor ships from German?

finaly one question
the rc prjson letter a4
are they strong and how much need it for a head with bong

can i got a free sample of a rc prison letter

have a nice day

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

For me, never provide free samples.

/u/cardershaq95

1 points

5 years ago

PM me I need some stuff

/u/kboxo

1 points

5 years ago

okyay i knoa what i want :)
how fast can you delivery?
ill pay mode for that of course

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

10 ~14 days from China to you

/u/Stitch3s

1 points

5 years ago

Hermes :D /d/Hermes

/u/Weezelle2

1 points

5 years ago

Im sorry to this but i think chemforum is so lame. Went on there hoping to find some valuable new sources and zilch honestly. Its not that the server is dead or anything either but people on there just aren't really that helpful

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

1 points

5 years ago

I am banned because mentioned Dread there. Also the mod there not friendly.

/u/Weezelle2

1 points

5 years ago

Make one wrong move there and you banned haha

/u/RCLeon 📢 Verified International Vendor

2 points

5 years ago

100% true.

/u/Weezelle2

1 points

4 years ago

Agreed hah 100%

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