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1 points

3 years ago

I've had no complains with Abacus and had good experiences there, my only wish is they have direct deposit but never had any issues with them. And it's the top market for Aussies.

/u/kraftwerkorange

1 points

3 years ago

As an Aus user & international it's yet to fail me. One very happy customer

/u/SankharaExpress

1 points

3 years ago

Abacus is a great market dont be like that, every marketplace right now deserves a chance to be on the top after alot of raided markets + exit scammed marketplaces. Lets make the darkweb a nice place.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Give me XMR address and will send you some money so you can take some English lessons and make something useful with your time.

And about the lack of arguments I will skip it, I know that will be too much for someone with just one brain cell.

/u/fibske

2 points

3 years ago

i've had nothing but positive experiences using Abacus.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Thanks for your positive comments! We hope you like the new update :)

/u/Zexafy

2 points

3 years ago

Where's the fud coming from? Ordered multiple things from abacus and never had a problem, team always sorts out any issues you have to

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

2 points

3 years ago

About FUD some people does not like competitors. And thanks for your positive comments! We hope you like the new update :)

/u/Zexafy

1 points

3 years ago

Of course :)

/u/ds8910

1 points

3 years ago

Go sign up with tor2door market, very easy to use, customer support active

/u/whocares123 What I Say

1 points

3 years ago

They are thieving cunts as wel. They stole money from a whole bunch of money from users including 8k from /u/doofus

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

No, we have not.

/u/TZSKSKTZ

1 points

3 years ago

Audi Market eh? WTF

/u/TZSKSKTZ

0 points

3 years ago

Audi has usurped Abacus market

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

You have enabled stealth mode, you can disable it on your settings. Cheers!

/u/Ankh22

-1 points

3 years ago

Don't get me started on ARES as well. Completely chaotic garbage.

/u/brainwashing

0 points

3 years ago

bro, i dont want to go to that direction, this ARES shit is crazily nonsense, i dont see any reason why darknetlive had to list them, this is one of the worst looking markets i came across, its really crazy, lol, was the frontend developer sleeping? or was he fucking while doing the html and css work?

/u/Ankh22

0 points

3 years ago*

From the looks of it, I think he was doing both at the same time. ;-) I posted on /d/Ares that they are a shitty market, and they took the post down.

/u/greenblue98

-4 points

3 years ago

I agree its world market again. No thanks I like my money.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

We are all markets since 2011, we are also DDW, DDF and Dread. Everything! Be more creative with your FUD posts because you will keep seeing us here! <3

/u/CorgiFull

2 points

3 years ago

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/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

And just to make clear it one last time, we are totally against group of scammers like World, Pax or anything else. DeSnake is claiming without any proof (even making up fake proofs as I explained in the super long post) that I am Lovelace, the market of World. Also DeSnake said he has the dox of Lovelave and we invited him to make the dox public in his forum or to send the dox to LE, if they put Lovelace behind bars is not my problem. I will continue doing my work here for the basic reason that I am not him. And the last point, anyone can verify through our public announcements how we had been improving things on Abacus and also some mistakes or bad design / functionality we did on the market for the simple reason that it is not the same checking a marketplace than running a marketplace, and there are some things you do not notice from the start if you never built a darknet marketplace. We had been received suggestions from vendors to include some features from World and other marketplaces we were missing.

Categories counters display active listings on the marketplace, and we are more near to 30k active listings than 20k ;) We disable automatically listings from vendors that does not login in a period of 7 days. Are you angry or jealous because we have saved a lot of time to our vendors moving their listings from WHM or ToRReZ? Also do not you think it would be much easier to move listings from World instead of using WHM or ToRReZ as you claim?

Keep losing your time creating alternative accounts to spread FUD, meanwhile I am going to continue working in the next new features for Abacus.

/u/dannyboys

3 points

3 years ago

This is total garbage.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

2 points

3 years ago

It is definitely not. I am not commenting on the rest but the autocopying is something they are doing to pump their listings I checked it in october and they already had something like 15k listings. Seriously in less than a month? Having certain vendors from world move to their market that is something people can do their own due diligence. When abacus fucks off again I will raise the question to the australian community and dread WHO were the vendors and higher-profile users who lead that specific community their slaughter (yet again).

I find it odd that you jump the horse and instantly dismiss it. I have given previously enough information on other posts why I know for a fact this is lovelaces new market. Even small things give it away because although they know how to rinse and repeat markets lovelace is still a dumb motherfucker, look at their new 'encyclopedia' that has the name Aegis. Interesting name choice right? Same category/theme as Pax romana/invictus and all that ancient greek/rome shit. You can not make this shit up.

People really need to wake the fuck up and think for themselves otherwise they will keep getting fucked over by lovelace and his markets or any of the other groups (some of which splitted from lovelaces group because of greed, what a shocker right). Further those vendors and users that had clear affiliation and I do not mean something like being a loyal customer as anyone else (whether buyer or vendor) but those that pushed it actively. As much as lovelace and groups like that are cancer those that help him/get paid off are just as much responsible.

Thank you.

/u/throwawaymymoney

1 points

3 years ago

Daily reminder this guy /u/desnake got a guy killed with his shitty opsec and failed backend security. Can't prove who he is. Is a complete trash can, I would rather buy my drugs from the gas station crackheard than this despicable piece of absolute shit. A literal fucking snake. Google it. Alphabay is a total honeypot and desnake is a fake.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

3 points

3 years ago

Keep spreading FUD mate, vendors that had been with us since October can confirm that we did not have 15k listings as you claim. We had few hundreds of listings and some weeks later around 2k, there are even screenshots back to that date where the number of listings is displayed. So stop lying. I know you want to see Abacus to fall, just saying that we do not have any vision, that we do not have skills to add new features or that we will exit scam every month. Be more creative hiding your jealousy, you cannot stop checking any post you see about Abacus and losing your time creating dummy accounts to shill your market and against Abacus.

Do you know what it the meaning of the Aegis word or you cannot read the about? And because someone was a scammer with a Greek name do we have to ban Greek words from any project in the darknet because you want? Each you open the mouth you show that you are more of an idiot than I thought. I just replied to all your FUD in a super long post, those who want to read it please use Dread's search. You do not like competitors and you do not lose any opportunity to spread FUD and spreading FUD to our vendors as you previously admitted.

And just to make clear it one last time, we are totally against group of scammers like World, Pax or anything else. DeSnake is claiming without any proof (even making up fake proofs as I explained in the super long post) that I am Lovelace, the market of World. Also DeSnake said he has the dox of Lovelave and we invited him to make the dox public in his forum or to send the dox to LE, if they put Lovelace behind bars is not my problem. I will continue doing my work here for the basic reason that I am not him. And the last point, anyone can verify through our public announcements how we had been improving things on Abacus and also some mistakes or bad design / functionality we did on the market for the simple reason that it is not the same checking a marketplace than running a marketplace, and there are some things you do not notice from the start if you never built a darknet marketplace. We had been received suggestions from vendors to include some features from World and other marketplaces we were missing.

See you in our next update asshole.

Fuck off.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

1 points

3 years ago*

I do not mind competition. I mind you pillaging the community every time you rinse and repeat a market.

>> you cannot stop checking any post you see about Abacus and losing your time creating dummy accounts to shill your market and against Abacus.
Funny. You are not even in the same category as us or any of the other top markets. Only reason I pay attention to you is because you are lovelace. Other markets, vendors and users are sleeping on this but I know the truth very well and not only from some of the things I aforementioned.

While I am around you will get this attitude from me, it is not about business at all as I said you are very far away from where we are, it is about you being a cancer to the community.

Per your own words you have been 'scraping' marketplaces since Silk road and alphabay etc. right? So instead of building your own marketplace for 7-8 YEARS PLUS, you collect information without vendors or buyers agreeing for that information to be accumulated. Why suddenly create it now? Half year before closing world market, again super convenient.

I know you are a dumb fucker and when one day you fuck up and get LE on you and your market, they will find all of that information and use it against people and yourself. Kind of like how those vendors save addresses and only think 'shit' when LE busts them. There is no excuse to hold such information.

>> I just replied to all your FUD in a super long post
It was bullshit responses. You clearly were not reading the responses I suggest you sober up and reread it.

>> DeSnake is claiming without any proof (even making up fake proofs
Where is the fake proof? Point to it. No one is making up anything I had pointed out things you did not like and failed to respond to in adequate manner. Again all of there for people to read.

Also no one said issue is in not creating features. I have no idea where this is even coming from. Issue is you have a history of running marketplaces and then fucking people over. That is the issue. Not competition, not some design copied, the issue is destructive behavior to the community which translates to less people using it which translates to smaller buyer pool for our and other marketplaces which translates to people going to the streets and putting themselves in danger. That is the issue and by now even with a double digit IQ like yours you should have gotten the gist of that.

>> I've vended on about 18 markets now and this market is super responsive, clean, the admin are always seeking to improve
>> /u/dannyboys
Yes of course no one else comes close. From your response I can see where you stand with it and that is fine, was a bit hard to hear you with you gagging on his balls but it is clear. Again I shall remind yet again when it is all said and done, do not come out saying 'I did not know', 'I had confidence bu-bu-but' or any of those school-grade excuses, that concerns yourself and all those other responsible for the push specifically to the AUS community. If not anyone, I will be the one to raise the questions over and over because these rinse and repeat scams are helped by vendors without a shadow of a doubt.

All in all lovelace do what you do. I responded to this as there were valid points (even dannyboys said your autocopy is bullshit to prop numbers up). I have previously made warnings and comments where it is relevant so there is no grand conspiracy to shame and name your yet another market lovi. Keep updating the more you do that the more complete script you will have for your next rebrand after abacus.

Thank you.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Before you have said you won't reply us anymore. We do not mention you, we do not create alternative accounts to spread FUD about you. Still here you are again, what do we call that? Incoherence? Jealousy? Again go baby, post the dox of Lovelace, do not you want to put me behind bars? Grabbing popcorn to watch this pathetic show.

Of course "while you are around". Are you telling the people that putting the money inside an ex-carder is the best idea? After stealing ccs do you want that everyone believes that you are not here to steal users' funds? Ohh yes, I remember another market managed by ex-carders, Evolution, and that did not end very well. Prepare to lose your time then, we are going to here for years and will reply to all your FUD.

I suggest you to get back to school to learn some reading comprehension as clearly you missed some lessons. I said "we do regularly crawls of other marketplaces" not "we do crawls since Silk Road". Do you even know that HugBunter did not make crawls from Silk Road as there are people who did it? We have started to work in Abacus in 2020 and a couple of vendors can verify this as we contacted them to make to improve some things and testing purposes. The one who previously had a marketplace is you, you have admitted to run the marketplace with several mistakes that made LE could seize everything fucking up tons of buyers and vendors. After more than 4 years you show up suddenly, you can get your own words and put AlphaBay name there.

We have launched Abacus 7 months ago, then it is clearly we are World. Also we launched the marketplace few days before WHM closed its doors or four months before ToRReZ closed, why are we not those marketplaces? Or why are we not Silk Road 1? Or even Amazon? Over the time your words become more non sense.

You can say whatever you want, keep spreading all the FUD you want. Time will prove facts always, it does not matter what you say; when the time have shown you are lying people will understand that you had been spreading FUD only in your own benefit.

Maybe some people does not know it but in theory you were the security administrator of AlphaBay. AlphaBay leaked messages several times and due to bad OPSEC compromised the security and funds of many buyers and vendors resulting in the biggest seizure done by LE.

Yes, when I reply to all your FUD point by point. You just say "this is a lie", "bullshit"... You are like people who thinks Earth is flat, when the arguments contradict you, you only know how to shout loud.

Fake proofs? You said we had same name for query parameters in the search than world, pax and that can be easily be checked because we are using names from the original AlphaBay (surprised that you did not remember it). Just mentioning html things and not even them were true, said that server responses are the same than World but did not give any proof, insisted to post the information, you have refused. And more in the long post...

Where is coming the idea that we do not create features? Read your fucking own comments moron, you did not stop to repeat we did not know have any vision (which is clearly make a real change about harm reduction as Aegis was not done, it was done months ago and several trusted members can verify it) and also you said multiple times we did not have any skills to add features. How is it possible that trying to educate the people about harm reduction is going to harm them? If I have two IQ digits clearly you only have one digit.

And of course, when we get positive comments your only replies are two: this is an alternative account or you insult the people for having their own opinion, your ego cannot handle that other people does not agree with your opinion and cry like a baby. I wish you good luck not getting bored during years we will be here, did not you get bored even a bit during previous 7 months? I thought you have said we won't be online for so long. Again, stop manipulating, we did not fake any listing counters and it can be easily verified by public screenshots of the marketplace done months ago.

Keep living of AlphaBay's ashes.

Fuck off.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

1 points

3 years ago

>> Before you have said you won't reply us anymore. We do not mention you, we do not create alternative accounts to spread FUD about you.
Where did I do that? As I said if the topic arises I will be sure to raise awareness.

>> Ohh yes, I remember another market managed by ex-carders, Evolution, and that did not end very well
That age-old line. Through AlphaBay we combined both drugs and fraud worlds and we shown that it is not what you do but the merit of your actions that matter. My reputation stretches way, way, way further and longer than yours, even before 2014. I am well beyond shadow of a doubt compared to you that has been copying market information since who knows when but only 2 years back started building with same functionality same style everything same as world market. Right. Also I started out as a hacker rather than anything else if you have been around as much you would know.

>> The one who previously had a marketplace is you, you have admitted to run the marketplace with several mistakes that made LE
>> due to bad OPSEC compromised the security
I did state previously you do not know how to read. But actually I know that you had read what I replied, you only like to put it as you have nothing actually bad to be said about us because your experience (or show of any) plains infront of mine. As before, not my own fault if certain things were not implemented I advised alpha on everything he implemented only certain things. One can do only as much I can not physically do it for him nor can I physically ensure every buyer or vendor does their opsec correctly. That is up to the individual. If today something fucks up, it will be fully on me as I have done all to the highest security standard.

>> several trusted members can verify it
I bet the same vendors you contacted many months ago before launching, same ones from world right. Does not confirm anything from what I am saying but this will be a useful reference in the future.

>> How is it possible that trying to educate the people about harm reduction is going to harm them?
Let me respond to that with your own comments as no one said that. "Where is coming the idea" "Read your fucking own comments moron"

>> our ego cannot handle that other people does not agree with your opinion
Not about opinion. People can have opinions you have yours I have mine. Mine is that you are lovelace. Also I have no point in alts anyone can check an account and see if there is actual activity or not.

Overall you can keep talking shit all you want, you never presented one argument that you are not lovelace and just like world market the circumstancial evidence is piling up slowly but surely.

Thank you.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Of course you do not know nothing about new accounts shilling AlphaBay and spreading FUD about Abacus. It is a surprise for you!

Avoid my comment, you were selling ccs for your own profit. You have been a carder, as anyone can check easily. And do you want to make everyone to think you have came after more than 4 years of inactivity to help the community and not for your own benefit? Where were you when LE was taking over AlphaBay? Saving your own ass and abandoning your community. Yes you have copied everything, even new and our unique features; those were also copied.

You were the one in charge of AlphaBay's security. You cannot be "Security Administrator" only for good things and avoid bad things. Those are facts, there were several security vulnerability on AlphaBay and the market ended fully compromised being the biggest darknet bust. Those are facts, period.

And not, with several trusted members I mean Paris and other onion operators, also some vendors who were not in World ;)

We are and will make much more efforts about harm reduction, will do our best to educate our community and will promote several programs. Only a bad person or someone who only cares about money can be against harm reduction.

Of course, at least you are not so dumb to link your alts and clear all your sessions before starting your FUD attacks. Casually FUD attacks start always at the same time you are logged replying others.

I had presented you several arguments that I am not Lovelace, you are trying to manipulate people with FUD comments. I have shown you that your claims about similarities between World and Abacus do not exit, I have replied to all things that you have said and you are clearly lying. Anyone can verify it. What am I hiding fucking dumb ass? Do you think that I will allow you to keep spreading FUD? Good for you if your social engineering skills allowed you earn money from carding but that is not going to work here. Even your arguments are not coherent, why would we not allow import listings from World if we are the same? Why our stats from World are not updated to the latest date if we do have the same data? Why would World covertly threatened us after we invited their vendors? Or why we did not start with ads everywhere if we would be World?

But still it is really basic, you have stated several times you have the dox of Lovelace. You keep saying I am the same person, each time I insist you to leak it or send it to the LE you just ignore me over and over. Why? Because of course you know you are lying and if LE arrests Lovelace your lies will be exposed.

Fuck off.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

1 points

3 years ago*

>> after more than 4 years of inactivity
I have been around just not specifically on the darknet scene. If you were on other forums you would know. But who would let anyone in vetted places like you whose only skill is to scrape. Also coming back immediately especially after Hansa would have been a totally successful and smart move opsec and business wise right? Your thinking is really advanced.

>> Yes you have copied everything, even new and our unique features; those were also copied.
Who has copied what? Not sure if this is your lack of ability to speak in English or something else but AlphaBay has created pretty much majority of the features that are in use of DNMs today, yours included. Instead of acknowledging the road paved for you and others like you, you accuse us of copying something? Anything? Give us at least one example clown. You are the one who is copying what we are doing, I see you doing that. You copied before and you copy now. In a way it is good to know you look up to us and we are yet again leading the DNM standard.

Talking about copying meanwhile you have been scraping like a rat for many years cycling your markets.

>> You were the one in charge of AlphaBay's security.
If it were entirely up to me it would have been different, those who listened to my guideliness fully like other ex-AlphaBay Staff are free. Same goes for procedures for security, network and code review. If alpha decides to push an update without checking in with me what could I have done? Nothing. Again anyone is yet to find any security issues with AlphaBay now, if there were any I would own to them. You keep repeating same thing about a codebase which I did not start or something that solely relied to me. Now it is different and I am waiting for you or anyone else to prove otherwise.

You seem not to be reading so I will not waste time explaining further what has already been said multiple times and you are bringing it out as your only defense (if you can even call it that as they are laughable arguments) to deflect the real issue that is discussed here. Monkey brain only goes as far right lovelace?

>> Only a bad person or someone who only cares about money can be against harm reduction.
Okay? Who is talking about this? Are you venting or is this some schizo-level twitching sentence put in between?

>> Good for you if your social engineering skills allowed you earn money from carding but that is not going to work here.
For all the scraping you have done lovelace you can tell you have spent your days on this scene only. This indicates you have had no other proof of work anywhere else (and why you are indeed the cancer named lovelace). I have worked in a lot other industries hacking/security, malware/botnets, warez etc., most of it is verifyable. If you spent your time having done actual work and gotten to a higher level, instead of rinsing and repeating markets you would have known. I like how with every response you very slowly but surely put up more and more against yourself. Man of genius we have here.

>> why would we not allow import listings from World if we are the same?
Anyone can not import listings.

>> Why would World covertly threatened us after we invited their vendors
Ah smart. So later when you leave everyone fuck like in world, your vendor buddies can come back to this answer and say 'yeah we got invited and we liked abacus soo much that decided to open a store on the totally unknown platform regardless that we are making loads of sales on world'. Stellar logic.

>> why we did not start with ads everywhere if we would be World?
Because everyone knows those that do it are previous markets. You are dumb that shines through clearly but you have your autistic moments.

>> you have stated several times you have the dox of Lovelace
Get it from Paris he has it too. At this point it is no secret.

>> if LE arrests Lovelace your lies will be exposed
If that happens that will be a happy day and I will take ownership if I made a mistake. However based on what I know for a fact and that from verified people which I am not going to mention who they are in your group for the time being, that is a very, very small chance of happening.

Lastly you seem to have the captcha for Dread that was supposed to be propriatery. So hugbunter gave it to you specifically? No one else? That is an oddly specific relationship there. You know who else was close to him? I think you and the rest of the readers by now know the answer of that name I have mentioned 100 times in this topic.

All in all your shit is shady and until lovelace gets arrested there is no way to prove it otherwise. I have spent enough time commenting on this and even asking further questions like the one in the above paragraph to let people think about this even further. I do not see any point in commenting further and wasting time as we have opposing views and there is no way I am going to agree to anything a serial scammer would have to say.

Thank you.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

And why did you need more than 4 years to launch a new Alphabay? Was you running out money? Of course, your OPSEC is the best in the world, you save all your passwords in your mind. I just forgot the most advanced hacker in the world is talking.

I did a typo with "you", I meant "we". And yes, we have unique features but we are copying them. It makes totally sense!

I feel you are a bit hurt in your ego. Before you were saying we did not have skills to bring new features, now that our only skills are about crawling everything right in your mind? Do you need some money to go for a psychological checkup?

You had the label of Security Administrator in AlphaBay for many years. You claimed to hack AlphaBay during the start and helped Cazes to fix everything but clearly you did not make a good job of pentesting and fucked up everything. Of course you trying to blame a dead person and trying to divert attention, instead of taking some kind of responsibility for AlphaBay's security vulnerabilities, resulting in the biggest bust and fucking all buyers and vendors. Of course with you abandoning the ship to save your ass without giving a fuck about your community.

You are the only one who is saying fake things about me, I gave all the options available to show your lies. How is possible that insisting you in make everything public is not enough? How is possible that even saying you with enough weeks of advance that we are going to make an update and insisting you to collect and publish all your proofs and nothing was published? Who would make those public statements if we would try to hiding something? Of course, you are sure to have the identity of Lovelace, you say that I am Lovelace. I invite you publish the information or put him behind years but it is a "laughable argument". The only reason it is a laughable argument is because it will expose all your lies.

Here the only schizo person is you, plus a bad person.

If you had been working with botnets or not I do not give a fuck honestly, what do you want? An award or what? You were also a carder motivated by money, now you are running a market to end with users' funds one day as you already have in mind leaving one day as you just said in this same post: "While I am around".

"Anyone can not import listings." ? That sentence does not even make any sense. We only imported listings from WHM and ToRReZ.

We did not invited some big vendors in World because they did not have their listings active when we did it. Anyone can message vendors, I do not know if you knew markets have that option asshole. So where is your point? Put more effort in your FUD comments, all your comments are pathetic and you really look like a crying baby. And now you are also against autistic persons, insulting people is not like you and not respecting different people. Just a bad person.

I repeat again that I do not give a fuck about others. We also received the dox you are talking about in our modmail as Paris can verify that too. I am not asking you the dox because I am interested, you are the one who says that I am that person; unlike others we do not hire freelancers. You'll never admit you're wrong even with all the evidence in the universe. You are only interested in spreading FUD about your competitors. I am not worried even a little for the simple reason that you are just saying lies. If Lovelace is active in the scene and you expose his new marketplace I will congratulate you but right now you are totally wrong and time will prove it.

HugBunter sent us the OnionGuard because he decided to share it with top marketplaces. Still, we were the only marketplace who could implement it properly because it needs some optimizations to make it workable in a production environment. He really appreciates our innovation efforts and we hope we can collaborate in some projects for the darknet community. I can send you even a signed message by him backing my own words. And do not be jealous of our deCaptcha implementation, I coded it by myself. If you have the skills you can make it really quick (have we or not skills then?).

I have no sympathy for Lovelace and won't be sad if he is arrested, so go ahead and prove to the community you are wrong.

I suggest you mind your own business or at least stop making a fool of yourself in public. All your FUD had been properly replied and future FUD you create with your account or alts will be replied as well.

And I won't tolerate that you insult our vendors asshole.

Fuck off.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

0 points

3 years ago

You are a special breed of stupid.

>> And why did you need more than 4 years to launch a new Alphabay? Was you running out money?
What and when I do it is of my choosing not yours. I have been making big figures before you learned about computers, probably before you were even born. AlphaBay was only a platform to extend my own business. Again saying stupid things like these proves you have no forward thinking skills, even if you take the btc appreciation you can see I am more than well off. I do not expect a person like you to understand who rinses and repeats markets taking advantage of people.

>> Of course with you abandoning the ship to save your ass without giving a fuck about your community.
Everything was tested and there was a reason why LE could not locate alpha for many years. If he had followed my opsec guideliness or code review procedures it would have been different proof of that is other members being free so nothing for you to even dispute here except for repeating yourself. If it were up to me I would have said so I do not shy from taking responsibility where needed. From my side I should have been more insistant on taking his security seriously even though I had repeated it many times every single week. Now there is no one to repeat to and I dare you find anything bad about it.

My experience is uncomparable to yours. Just because you ran for a bit pax romana world and whatever other markets you had owned for a bit does not make you experienced. We all saw how many mistakes you made.

>> now you are running a market to end
Said lovelace, sorry now Vito, the self-labelled saint 'godfather'. Of course the element of money is there. Difference between me and the rest is that I have seen big money way before the darknet scene, it changes nothing in my life either way I am set.

>> you just said in this same post: "While I am around".
Let me guess you are going to be here until infinity? The immortal saint lovelace. You are nothing but a clown who copies, pastes and bribes people.

We have a clear goal and it is to transition to the decentralized project fully. I bet you whatever though that we will certainly outlive you even in this 'classic' form.

>> HugBunter sent us the OnionGuard because he decided to share it with top marketplaces.
You are not even at the 'top' marketplaces though at all. Out of everyone he sent it to (other markets can chime in here) apparently you are the only one that made it work. I am sure that is the case. With you it is one suspicious thing after the next.

>> I suggest you mind your own business or at least stop making a fool of yourself in public. All your FUD had been properly replied and future FUD you create with your account or alts will be replied as well.
I do not need to bother with alts, if someone says something critical you should be able to respond to it or are you going to be the new monopoly thinking every bad comment is specific person.

The only fool is yourself. Your responses are far from sufficient and I have raised very legitimate points of concerns and coincidences. Even things like how you would get advertisement space BEFORE you were an announced market. Approval from hugbunter you say? Again some special relationship right there. I do not find any new marketplace doing that with admin who is so rarely online people wonder if he is alive or not.

>> And I won't tolerate that you insult our vendors asshole.
You can go and talk like that to someone else. 'Allow' 'tolerate' whats the godfather going to do? Nothing. Because all he can do is scrape and copy from other marketplaces, rinse and repeat his scams. You created one new-ish thing lets call it (though there were some markets in the past that had something similar) and now you think you are the godfather of innovation for getting a small pat on the back by someone else. It is laughable and you show yourself as a real clown.

'We are innovating but let me copy that decaptcha hugy real quick'.

'We know how to code but we copied everything from other markets'

Again innovating is important for the scene. You are yet to make a considerable contribution but even one from pieces of shit like yourself would be accepted if it is for the common good.

>> If Lovelace is active in the scene and you expose his new marketplace I will congratulate you but right now you are totally wrong and time will prove it.
As time goes by you will make more mistakes as you did with world and the evidence will pile up by itself like before. Lets wait for time then time for you to crawl back in whichever hole the 'godfather' came from.

Thank you.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

So basically you are just saying you just used Alphabay to extend your business about carding and hacking. It is all about the money then, people can get their own conclusions based in the reputation behind Alphabay.

Again, here the only one who ran a marketplace before it is you. Funny how the "everything tested" ended with other security vulnerabilities. Of course, you did not made any mistake there; biggest darknet bust happened magically. Other marketplaces at the same were not busted for the simple reason their security administrator did not fuck it.

Keep dragging you like a snake, I am starting to think that you are even jealous about my flair or that you have really poor general culture. You already have in your mind when you will exit and your subconscious has betrayed you.

Your goal is the same you had when you were a carder, to use nice words and tricks to end stealing people's money in your own benefit. And you are really angry because I do not bend to anyone because we have ignored your initial threats your ego got hurt.

If we are a top marketplace is something that people must decide, not yours. It does not matter if you are working behind scenes or not. We won't never give up. Have you see OnionGuard working in any other marketplace? Nope, where is the conspiracy asshole?

We have much more critics than you, we do not insult people that does not suck our balls. We accept when we did something wrong or was not the best implementation, listen our community and keep improving. Anyone can check it easily through dozens of positive comments from legit accounts here on Dread.

Were not you the one who get add many months before making your announcement? Did you know that we made a "YES" in almost all TESTS requirements even in those optional since months ago? Do you also think that the Earth is flat?

You are only showing your pathetic attitude and jealousy, crying about things you would like to have in your marketplace. Did you see also how we implemented the Aegis' harm reduction information on Abacus? Do we also copy that? Do you know to do something else apart of throw up shit?

Of course, keep moving in circles. Avoid taking any action against Lovelace. Keep piling up your lies one over other, it will be a big bag after several years.

"I do not see any point in commenting further and wasting time". You cannot even keep your own word, you say we are a shit and non relevant but still the best hacker in the universe is giving me his free time. Keep losing your time dumb ass.

Fuck off.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

1 points

3 years ago

>> It is all about the money then, people can get their own conclusions based in the reputation behind Alphabay.
There was a time before that if you wanted to run big project with a lot of trust you had to be somebody. Unlike you and majority of admins who are nobody. Much better to have proven track record of good business deals behind your back than have zero. That is why people use our platform because my track record is immaculate when it comes to business same as ordering from a vendor with 100% positive feedback from thousands of orders.

>> Of course, you did not made any mistake there; biggest darknet bust happened magically
Was my name somewhere in the indictment? I do not think so. My opsec was solid and for it to survive scrutiny by LE that speaks volumes. Something no other admin has been tested like that and came back.

You talk big criticisms but you have done 0 compared to what I have achieved in AB 2014-2017 not even counting today. Like one of those fat fucks with greasy fingers from reddit or whereever thinking they can always do it better and know better. Lots of pseudo-experts many talk the talk but very few walk the walk. You can keep twisting words and talking crap but fact is we are back we are stronger than ever we are the top XMR only marketplace. We have proven ourselves to be worthy and will continue to do that.

>> Your goal is the same you had when you were a carder, to use nice words and tricks to end stealing people's money in your own benefit
You see again you confirm yourself to have lived the past couple of years in the Dread/DNM bubble and know nothing of how carding or hacking works. Yet products like that are sold on your marketplace. Hilarious but not surprising for lovelace the clown (or is it now Vito the father of clowns?). Selling CCs or fullz does not 'tricks' people. It is done by hacking companies, malware/botnet or for beginners spam/phishing. If you need any more lessons feel free to ask in /d/hacking or /d/fraud that is beginner sub for you.

>> You already have in your mind when you will exit and your subconscious has betrayed you.
I really like how you played yourself there. No one said anything remotely close you are truly can not read or in your attempt to come with your next bullshit to deflect you being lovelace you fuck it up. The mind speaks what it thinks so look at your own words.

>> Did you see also how we implemented the Aegis' harm reduction information on Abacus? Do we also copy that?
Categories list, featured listings, the design everything is literally copied the list of things is endless. After all that scraping you still fail to recognize or attribute at least where you got it all from. That speaks of your character.

I keep responding as I can not help myself but respond as you keep saying things which prove your intentions.

I am done here. When you pack up your circus yet again lovelace, I will still be here.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Of course, who were Agora's admins? Despite of ddos attacks against them they were one of the best marketplaces and properly announced their shutdown allowing people to withdraw their funds. They needed to make a platform that worked and being honest.

Unless you were not the security administrator of AlphaBay you appear in the indictment as the "security administrator". Anyone can verify it, DNL even added a screenshot about that in his article. Here you go:

"Security Administrator:
16. The ALPHABAY ORGANIZATION employed a "security administrator" responsible
for administering the AlphaBay online platform with CAZES. The security administrator had high-level
access to the website and, with CAZES, was responsible for the website's operational security and
technology updates. The security administrator also had partial control of moderator, vendor, and other
users' accounts on the AlphaBay online platform."

What it is really suspicious is that you did not recognize the html code from AlphaBay and that you just noticed the security administrator was mentioned in the indictment. Although there clearly says you were responsible for security updates; when everything was fucked up now you claim that specific update was not done by you (what a coincidence, only were things went wrong it is not your fault). Unfortunately money can buy also a private key.

For us each opinion said with respect from our customers count. We do not give a fuck if it is a fat guy or not. If someone does not like something meanwhile he gives arguments, even if his only opinion will be always welcomed. A high rate of our customers are really happy because we listen them.

Also I know the entire history from Silk Road, do you know why? Because there is something really useful in the year we live called internet asshole. I also learnt about Genghis Khan and I will tell something that will surprise you. Although I have knowledge about it, I did not live in the twelfth century! I am talking about the purpose of carding not the carding itself, keep trying to divert attention. You have the same intentions that Evolution and time will prove it.

And again, you keep ignoring comments. You do not want to see Lovelace behind bars because you do not want to be exposed for your lies.

For your information you did not invent how a marketplace, there were enough marketplaces before AlphaBay. Even some new features added in AlphaBay were not made by you following your own affirmations that you were security administrator, moderator and vendor you did not code them. Good that you do not want to see how we have improved our design with new features, more will come and some of them we will be the first marketplace in make them (we had been the first in listing harm reduction information in our listings), so stay tuned for more updates.

"I keep responding as I can not help myself" probably one of the most dumb answers I have read in my life. You have said before (and not just today) that you won't make more comments about Abacus, specially saying that we are not relevant but you still keep commenting and commenting because it hurts you ego I know.

Fuck off.

/u/dannyboys

1 points

3 years ago

I am glad you responded to this. The market is super clean and its features are excellent. Lovelace' work is sloppy at best. Abacus' features are far superior to any other market right now and the auto import listing feature is ace. I am tired of people spreading FUD about this market.

I've vended on about 18 markets now and this market is super responsive, clean, the admin are always seeking to improve - it reeks of nothing like those other assholes.

Have confidence in this market. It is going to be around for a long time. There are not many markets I can say I've ever had confidence in but Abacus is one of them.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago*

Also World never implement the multisig feature for obvious reasons. Once Monero has a stable and easy to use multisig implementation (it could be done this year, but we will see), we will also add multisig support for Monero.

And thanks for your positive comments and we are glad that you are enjoying our market. In our pending features there is a really big update for making the vendor panel the best one. And we will be here for many years, since our launch it has been already 7 months and much more will come!

Anyways, if you have haters it means you are going in the good way! :)

/u/djax

1 points

3 years ago

Your market is excellent, the User interface is first rate, the updates are fantastic and it's everything a Vendor and customer wants in a DM.

The only improvement would be to send funds directly to a vendor on a purchase and not have to send funds to your market first, that way the customer knows exactly how much to send. This gives the customer confidence that no residual funds are held by the market. Other than that, your market looks good, functions excellently and is a pleasure to use.

Regards,

A customer.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Thanks for your positive words! And yes, direct payment option will be added. The last update is not yet finished, direct payments is one of the features that will be added!

/u/dannyboys

1 points

3 years ago

I have been speaking with admin for couple of months - I can tell you whoever I speak to is not lovelace unless - he's not one to modify how he writes, his attitude, tone - he is a loose canon. The English used on the site is without any errors whatsoever. It's actually impeccably perfect. Yes I agree the padding is bullshit but although anything is possible I was in frequent communication with World as they ripped me off for spreading apparent FUD at the same time I was in daily communication with Abacus over a long period of time - and I just can't see it. I know you have beef with them as how they use your original skin and their original name and branding set you off. I can get that. But I just am cautious to jump to that conclusion without evidence.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. Just one small thing, we did not fake any listing counter. We did an automatic system to import listings and vendors automatically, vendors used it to move their listings from WHM and ToRReZ on Abacus, simple as that. In October we were around 2k I think, that information can be checked through some public website which did screenshots of the site.

/u/DeSnake ax Romana Fan

1 points

3 years ago

He does change it and also when I say lovelace I mean the group behind/with that person because it is clearly not one. As little proof/hint it is especially coming from someone like the nightmare admin and his post, he did mention they change a lot of things when they create a new project but that in itself creates a pattern. I have also outlined other code consistencies on other post you can search on Dread about how it is same as pax romana. Two days after I made that comment world went offline and magically lovelaces new market went into 'maintenance' which erased a few (but not all) similarities in code and code logic.

There are lot of convenient coincidences some bigger like the code logic I explained in my other posts, some are smaller like choosing a specific name again in the greek theme. End of the day it stacks up same way it stacked up for world market and people were warned months and months ago and even probably a year ago before that by e.g. versus admin.

>> I know you have beef with them as how they use your original skin
We had some back and forth and after going through that several times I did say I was not going to bring it up again as I only wanted them to admit they did the 'alphabaymarketpr' account posts on purpose, the design and the rest is really whatever countless other markets have copied us. It is quite funny the design is same as one world market used.

So it is well beyond some beef. Every since day 1 I have pledged to the community I will do my best to remove the cancer of rinse and repeat scamming groups. First through proactive actions like the ones I am taking and second with the decentralized project. Not only lovelaces group is moving around with markets but the one behind dark0de and few others have their own active markets today. If someone does not step in to expose the filth that is going on behind the scenes nothing will ever change. What DPR, alpha, myself built many years ago and gave foundation to will continue to be a circus ran by clowns that fuck buyers and vendors.

For the sake of your own reputation and that of other vendors and users who pushed the market onto the australian scene, that you have the purest intentions. Because when they close shop again and fuck you and others, I will be on the frontline asking by name those responsible because shit like this can not continue to go on without any consequences.

If we want meaningful way forward, innovation and ushering into another golden age of the DNMs, a decentralized project itself will not be enough, a mentality change is needed or at least calibrating most peoples radar to detect the bullshit of lovelace and other groups.

Thank you.

/u/whocares123 What I Say

1 points

3 years ago

I dont know why you keep responding to /u/vito. He is a proven thief, he sole 8k from one of his users and several others (verified) a few days ago.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

Detailed explanation about why we did not: /post/9943a4d426703a0c6500?p=1#c-ce05eb3de130649506

Also it shows the lack of knowledge about how a proxy reverse phishing attack works and do not know / do not want to know that it affects any website, as Versus or even Dread.

/u/Vito Abacus Market Admin

1 points

3 years ago

After months of saying that I am Lovelace now you say that not, that I am part of the group. Did you just realized that saying you have my dox and insisting you to send it to LE or publish in your forum it is inconsistent? And yes, I invite everyone to check the post he is referring. You only mentioned html text and you even were so fucking dumb that you did not say that correctly. You even said our search query is the same from Pax and World when it is not as I posted the search query from the original AlphaBay but it seems you even did not know it (cough cough). World even covertly threatened us where he mentioned that a market was inviting his vendors to Abacus, shortly after we have invited their vendors. This can be verified by vendors and even in the public done in Dread months ago. Do you think that everyone is as stupid as you? We have warned you publicly weeks before we were going to apply any update, to grab all your "proofs" and make them public, you failed because you are just lying. Now you claim nonexistent similarities in the code praising someone just believe you.

Quite funny you try to be classy by publicly saying you don't care about design while shortly after we launched we were messaged in our modmail directly threatening us. Your attitude is pathetic, like that of a little baby crying.

What you have been trying to make since day 1 it is to get rid of potential competitors. You really do not give a fuck about exit scammers as you did not stop claiming you have the dox of Lovelace and you are not going to make any shit. Keep selling air about your decentralized project.

People are free to be where they are most comfortable, whether you like it or not. Our users are happy with our service, we do not stop adding new features and people like them as you can read in our legit comments from real users. Not shilling accounts and alternative accounts created to spread FUD ;)

Fuck off.

/u/AutoModerator M < - Not HugBunter

0 points

3 years ago

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/u/dontlaugh overdimenssionated

3 points

3 years ago

i hadn't censored you dickbag. it's in the post queue. not sure i'm going to approve it now just to feed the conspiracy :D

/u/Ruhani777

-1 points

3 years ago

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/u/[deleted]

1 points

3 years ago

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/u/stormtrooper

1 points

3 years ago

Wondering the same question.

/u/dannyboys

3 points

3 years ago

No, this pure garbage.