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Can a burner sim's location be traced if it was used in a dual sim phone along with personal sim? : OpSec | Torhoo darknet markets

Is getting a burner phone the only way or can you pull this off with a dual sim phone with one burner sim and one sim registered to you?

/u/silentsound

1 points

3 years ago

Any cell phone can be traced. Even if there's no GPS, they can triangulate your position using the cell phone towers your cell phone can see. NEVER mix your illegal activity with your real life identity if it can be helped at all.

/u/kokomo 📢

1 points

3 years ago

So if i get a burner phone they can still trace me but cannot link it to my identity?

/u/silentsound

1 points

3 years ago

Correct, it will be a somewhat rough location. If it can access GPS and/or Wifi the location can be pinned down to meer feet, but even without GPS and wifi, they can determine where it is that you are.

They also see the phones IMEI, which is unique to each phone, so even if it's a burner phone they could link it to you if you paid using a credit or debit card, but if you paid cash for it, they wouldn't know who you are, just where you are.

/u/Grazelda Code Hunter

1 points

3 years ago

Yes, they can. Look into the IMEI number. Even smashing the SIM will not do diddly - they track the IMEI. not the SIM info per se.

/u/kokomo 📢

1 points

3 years ago

How would they get the IMEI number? So then you're saying we're always traceable using a phone, and the only way out is to not use one?

/u/Grazelda Code Hunter

1 points

3 years ago

Yes. If it is on it finds its mommy using the IMEI, which can theoretically be munged on a rooted Android phone. Google it for a better understanding. They track you from the IMEI, not the SIM card in the IMEI registered phone.

/u/jandaa

1 points

3 years ago*

only cellphone provider can track you..even if u don't have GPS they assume your location by calculating the signal strength that is received by each tower from your device..this is called triangulation which could locate you approximately within one kilometer radius only if you have connected to 3 towers atleast!!so if you are in rural area with just one or two towers..they got tough time finding you!
AND your service provider could tell you IMEI easily..coz every time you connect to a band base your cellphone sends two signals defining your cell number and YOUR IMEI NO(which will be on records)
so never put your burner sim in your personal mobile.(unless you wanna get caught)).NEVER!!
get some old mobile without gps and use burner sim..that should work fine for some medium level crime.
Be a ghost:))

/u/madaramaxx--

1 points

3 years ago

Yes they can, if you've send data with personal sim AND the burner sim they'll check the IMEI and you're fucked, always use the burner without any personal id link to it.

/u/nugget The 𝔒𝔯𝔞𝔠𝔩𝔢

1 points

3 years ago

1 more comment.

Dont take your personnal phone with you if you are using your burner. If anyone was looking for you it is a easy way to connect the dots.

Dont use burner at home address and never enable wifi, at home.

Dont just turn your phone off and the burner on, it's then easy to corelate the two.

/u/Dimension

1 points

3 years ago

Your phone is constantly trying to ping and remain connected to the best cell tower it can find. Its quite literally announcing to these towers of your presence. What can be traced is which towers you connected to at what time. These towers will know your IMEI, as will your provider.

The sim card is just information, no sim card is a "burner sim", the entire phone is. Just by throwing away or destroying the sim card doesnt mean you've cleaned your trail. What youre doing on that phone when connected to towers is literally the trail.