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Can a speed-experienced user explain this to me? : TheGoodSpeedGuide | Torhoo darknet markets

can someone explain me some things about amphetamine.

the situation is as follows,
a good friend of mine asked last year to buy some amphetamine via the darkweb. he had read that this would mean better quality.
so i bought 2 samples on the dark web at the end of last year from good vendors. ( we are from germany )

my friend has no medical or psychological problems and uses amphetamine 3 times a year without any problems at first sight.
never had stimulant psychosis.

The amphetamine was tested for 19% amphetamine, 66% caffeine and DPIA.
we also wash the amphetamine 3 times with dry acetone. we noticed that the acetone turned into a milky foam.
reagent tests where good tbh.

after washing with acetone 1 of the 2 samples smelled like burnt. maybe a bad interaction between chemicals? both samples were white and burnt in nose he said ( caffeine?)
i think the dosage was 0.600mg in 12hours , he did say he had to do 100-150mg lines to feel the rush

when using this amphetamine my friend complained a lot of the following symptoms:
- urge to use more ( like with cocaine he felt like he wanted to keep taking more )
- a tick cough
- fever
- never achieve the desired effect
- voices in his head after 8-10hours amphetamine use
- zero euphoria
- always going through the same loops ( washing hands , tics , being quiet , repeating , coughing )
-3 days of not being able to sleep after a few doses

after use he complained about extreme fatigue for a few days and voices in his head.
and he became increasingly ill after using it for days.
after 1 week everything was back to normal and he functioned as before.

he also always complained that the amphetamine felt very dirty. as if something went wrong with production or something
we repeated this 3 times and always came to the same negative effects from this speed.

his conclusion was actually that he thinks he had used contaminated amphetamine of poor quality.
is this true ?

my question is can amphetamine be contaminated with wrong raw materials that can negate the effect of amphetamine high?
or was caffeine giving him those bad reactions?

i am not talking about cutting but really about contaminated raw materials.
/u/rearendweenie
2 points
4 months ago
"good vendors" made me smile. Choose your vendors better.
/u/sonicyouth25 📢
1 points
4 months ago
hello, the vendors are well chosen. there is nothing difficult to go to a forum to see who is reliable.
cost us 10 minutes of searching... feedback was all positive and not a single negative (except no delivery or a reship)

i think i tried the 2 best 'amphetamine' vendors and both gave him the same effect. he did not like it and is going back to speed paste from his circle of friends.
/u/MethylDreaming SpeedGuideGuru
1 points
4 months ago
If only positive feedback and forum posts could gaurantee quality. The effects speak for themselves. Probably not proper Amphetamine. And remeber re-agents can detect different types of Amphetamine and Amphetamine like substances. Thats if you're reagent wasn't too old and reading incorrectly.

M
/u/fattama
1 points
4 months ago*
66% caffeine and DPIA.


High doses of these can do you in. I didnt know that you could get testing percentages.

DPIA is di-(β-phenylisopropyl)amine, a secondary amine derivative of amphetamine that arises through improper amphetamine synthesis.
/u/sonicyouth25 📢
1 points
4 months ago
thanks for the answer mate.

yes the point was that he kept seeing that the amphetamine was contaminated with something. he did have some amphetamine effects.
so I had it tested in a lab center.
the reagent test was normal... and caffeine is always in there. but with acetone most of it can be washed out

and yes caffeine and DPIA just came out of the lab test.
he had to dose high to get an effect but then got enormous side effects such as hearing voices quickly, shaking, coughing, feeling sick.
so probably he was walking behind the amphetamine high but the more he snorted the more caffeine and dpia he ingested which gave more side effects.

I also asked the vendor if this was normal but I didn't get a response and I'm leaving it like that.
/u/Snowcap3
1 points
4 months ago
Crazy amount of caffeine. Go through posts on this sub-dread you'll find some good recommendations for vendors with much better quality. And yeah those effects sound similar I've experienced from street bought shit.
Even if it's a reputable vendor, if it's a vendor that sells multiple different types of substances you pretty much only get a guaranty that the order will be sent and not that it will be of a exceptional quality.
Possibly try looking into vendors that just sell amphetamine.
What lab?
/u/sonicyouth25 📢
1 points
4 months ago
hi there!

the powder has been examined by the lab
https://drugchecking.berlin/aktuelle-warnungen


but they won't upload your test unless it's really dangerous.
you can call them and get a result.

but most of the samples that are examined here come from dark web or websites she told me
/u/swordfish SpeedGuideSuperMod
1 points
4 months ago
That's the trouble, there are a hell of a lot of speed vendors on the DNM's selling very impure product.
At at least you have found your way here and now know that there are some very good domestic DE vendors available, offering high purity product.

Sounds like your friend had an allergic reaction or something similar. :-(
/u/sonicyouth25 📢
1 points
4 months ago*
thanks for your response. well the 2 samples came from actually the best vendors I looked up here.
if we can install archetyp market we can also check the dark web forums to see if there is any information we can use.

most of the vendors had negative feedback about product or delivery.

1 of the 2 batches were tested with caffeine and DPIA. but my friend's opinion was that actually the 2 batches were of the same effect. I don't use amphetamine so I can't tell, but he didn't like the effects at all.

maybe there is another component or the amphetamine has been in contact with a contaminated product or cutting.

I am glad that he is back 'normal' and that he has not suffered brain damage or other problems due to this contamination.

we will leave it at this and go back to speed paste from friends, not the strongest or best product but there is no contamination in it so far we know
/u/speedaria
1 points
4 months ago
Lack of oxygen makes neuronss fire up randomly ,cheap kind synapses and other connections are created ...its something easier to feel than to explain... Try wim hofs guided breathing 5min tutorial or take him to sauna/spa, if your friend don't like pushing car as a workout
Lastly introduce him to soldering iron... He can fix broken gamepads ,WiFi dongles or make burn scar tattoo
Best thing is all above start and end with a line
/u/cubesquare
1 points
4 months ago
The acetone turns into a milky foam because of caffeine. It creates a fibrous gel.
Better to put the speed into hot distilled water, 1g/10ml and make sure it all dissolves, then put it into the fridge for rapid cooling. The caffeine will crash out and you'll be left with other more soluble molecules. Filter the caffeine out, and rinse it again with cold distilled water. Combine the water and let it evap.
You will get most of the caffeine out this way. THEN do your acetone wash - make sure it is anhydrous acetone or you will be losing amphetamine to the solution.
/u/goodspeeed
1 points
4 months ago*
I cant find the Post but it was from one the old mods.
Referring to iisthisisi... Just use dichlormethan.

A friend of Mine and i tried Chloroform too, works very well but you have to Shake it because the Amphetamin floats on the Chloroform.
After dcm or chloro wash, do an extra Aceton wash!

And Aceton wont stay anhydrous!!!! If you wanna keep it "fresh" over a longer time you need to put molecular sieves 3a in your aceton.

And please keep in mind these are DANGEROUS chems.

Get safety stuff and dont be dumb!!!! !!!!!!

bluelight.org could help too If you need assistence!