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So, started last week through my local recovery centre in UK. This is the 2nd time of trying.
The first time they didn't have me on enough Methadone, and I'd been taking zenes. They were too powerful for the methadone.

So I weened myself back on to proper opiates (Oxy), and started again last week in recovery.
Started on 20mg going into the pharmacy every day. Wasn't quite enough but did keep most of the WD away. Just couldn't sleep well.
I was on 20mg for 3 days and took a small hit of Oxy in the AM and PM, then it went up to 30mg Sunday just gone.
On 30mg, WD was completely gone. Didn't have any cravings and didn't need to take a single hit of anything, and just lived a normal day as if I was on my Oxy all day. Slept a full 8 hours as well.

You will rarely feel euphoria on this stuff, it is to purely stop WD. What that means is, you have to be ready to get off this stuff. The first time round, I was doing it for my family. This time, I was doing it for myself.

I still feel a bit shitty in the mornings, but so do most the population.

This methadone has to be controlled by a professional. We as addicts can't be trusted ourselves to take the right amount.

I don't know why I'm even posting this. Been on opiates for 12 years, started on codeine, morphone, DHC, but in recent years it's slipped to Oxy. The final point for me was starting on Zenes and then even twice ordering heroin (but not shooting).

Thought I would never go a day without Oxy or something again.
I know I'm still on opiates, so I'm not getting ahead of myself. But it feels like a big step for me.

I didn't trust that as someone who took a LOT of Oxy at around 6-8 times per day, that I could take 1 hit of this liquid, and it would last me 24 hours. But it really does.
Now, once I'm settled on this, we will reduce. And I'm determined to get completely clean.

Luckily, don't take alcohol at all or Benzos. So I also understand it's simpler for me than it is a lot of people out there.
But there is help ya da ya da ya da.

Please hit me up if you want any more info.
I know I'm not clean yet, but feel like I've taken an important first step. Will keep updating this thread. If only 1 person is interested in it, that'll make me happy.

Stay safe ladies and gents.

/u/schnueffeltier

2 points

8 months ago

I've read that SR-17018 will lower withdrawal symptoms and not cause any withdrawal symptoms itself when you try to kick it. Sound too good to be true but there is anecdotal evidence online.

/u/beezobeehive 📢

1 points

8 months ago

Not heard of this, having a Google now.
My issue is I really want medical professionals to be in control of this.
Me self medicating and thinking I could stay in control of things is what put me in my current position. So I am bounding myself to whatever I am prescribed.
But it's very interesting what I have read so far on this SR-17018.

I have been assured that the Meth is much easier to ween of than the opiates I've been taking.
But I've also read on forums to the contrary of that.
I think it totally depends on the person, their personal biology, and of course frame of mind / mental health.

I started at first on Subutex, was not for me at all.

/u/phatbagz P

1 points

8 months ago

I am reading about this now, where the fk do I get it?

/u/phatbagz P

1 points

8 months ago

Thank you for mentioning this. I've been reading about it and it seems like it's truly miracle stuff for opiate dependent people. A guy used it to get off 100mg daily methadone with basically no issue. That's insane. I've ordered some from /u/chemicalsinchains and will be giving it a go. This would be much cheaper and painless than traditional detox methods. I can't believe what I'm reading about this chemical.

I'll be making a thread with any results I might experience or otherwise.

Seems like people shouldn't sleep on this stuff and buy up as much as they possibly can. If what I'm hearing is real it's worth much more than gold.

/u/AbraCadaver P

1 points

8 months ago

Good on ya and best of luck. Key is doing it for yourself-you have to decide that you are worth it which you are. Once that is done, a large part of the fight is done. It is also helpful to know and understand that you get to choose how you interpret the world. The world can be shitting on your head or it can b giving you an opportunity to learn and grow. You get to choose how you interperet *everything*. It is a very powerful realization.

You can get all of the way there if you want to. Good luck.

/u/beezobeehive 📢

2 points

8 months ago

Thanks brother, you're so right.
I also got myself armed with more info second time round. The first time, not only was I doing it purely for other people, but I thought this methadone would be like some magical medicine that would feel exactly the same as the Oxy. It's not. As long as you know that going in, and prepare for it, the whole journey starts off on the right foot.

Thanks so much for the support, means a lot.

/u/AbraCadaver P

1 points

8 months ago

Very true. If nothing else methadone is amazing for keeping wd's away.

You got this.

/u/snugglepuff84

1 points

8 months ago

good for you bro - best of luck on your journey!

/u/beezobeehive 📢

1 points

8 months ago

Thanks so much brother. I'm just hitting up all the cliches. One day at a time and all that.

/u/snugglepuff84

1 points

8 months ago

Thats all we have control over - one day at a time. They're cliches for a reason. Stay strong bro

/u/[deleted]

1 points

8 months ago

GoodLuck! Ive also recently started my methadone journey !

/u/beezobeehive 📢

2 points

8 months ago

How are you finding it? Are you managing to stick solely to the Meth, or having to top up a bit?
I had to top up with a tiny bit of Oxy, but once the amount went up to 30mg, I could last a whole day without anything.
I still have Oxy in my medicine cupboard tho. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but it just feels like a comfort blanket.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

8 months ago

Im currently on 60mg and going up, honestly what i like about it most is that i dont get the urge to use at all like it doesnt cross my7 mind until i try to go to bed then maybe ill do a bump or something to stay asleep thru the night

/u/[deleted]

1 points

8 months ago

last time i did methadone i was comfy at 80mg without having to use at all so im hoping it will be a similar situation for me this time around cuz i also dont want to go to high if i dont need to cuz i eventually want to get tapered off
but overall its a great first step to a stable foundation to build life again its def helping me with confidence on a sober future and helps gain trust and support from friends and family seeing that im taking steps for a better life

/u/beezobeehive 📢

1 points

8 months ago

Yeah, I was having to do a bump on 20mg, at night mainly.
I still don't feel great on 30mg, but I feel good enough where I can stay busy, got minimal to no WD, and can sleep. They offered today to put me up to 40, but I'd rather stick at 30. I know I can be on 30 without using, and my ultimate goal is to ween off this, so I'm guessing I'll be glad I stuck to 30mg in a few months time when it's time to come off this.

But I'm happy for anyone who's managed to get onto the methadone, no matter what their therapeutic amount is.

/u/Heinous

1 points

8 months ago

Im about to detox myself. Just gonna use suboxone for a few weeks to get through the worst of the withdrawl.

/u/beezobeehive 📢

1 points

8 months ago

Tried Suboxone first time round. Even 8mg didn't work for me, but again I'm convinced that's because I had horrible Zenes in my system. If I was on normal Opiates I think Subutex would have worked well for me.
Hoping it works for you. If it doesn't, ask for the methadone.

/u/Heinous

1 points

8 months ago

Thanks. Ive used before and it helps alot. I wasnt on zenes though maybe thats why.

/u/Bromo54ur

1 points

8 months ago

Dude, fentanyl (and from what I've heard zenes too) are fucking SHIITTTYY to detox from. Qualitatively way worse than heroin or true-opiATE withdrawal. I've detoxed from heroin several times, and I usually just feel tired/depressed & have trouble sleeping, but I can always kick it on my own. I can take care of myself and I might take one day off work if its real bad.

But when Ive detoxed from fentanyl (advertised as heroin), that's when I've had to actually go to a hospital. I lost coordination to the point I was stumbling every few steps whenever I tried to get up to use the bathroom or drink water, and if I had fallen & hit my head or something I would've been completely helpless. Fentanyl withdrawal makes heroin withdrawal feel like you're quitting weed. I've never had zenes (to the best of my knowledge), but from what I've heard/read they're just as bad, perhaps worse. Sounds like that's true from what you say.

Good luck, man!

/u/beezobeehive 📢

1 points

8 months ago

Yep! THIS!
Fent and zenes may be different, may have different chemical compounds, but bottom line they are boh very VERY strong synthetic opiates from China. So I have to believe if they're not exactly the same thing, but just called different things in different countries, then they're close to identical in how they work.

For me I switched to them as they were sold as cheap Oxy. Obvs I knew something must have been in them for them to be that cheap, but had no idea what I was getting myself into.
For me I got little to no Euphoria, but I've not taken opiates for Euphoria for about 10 years now. But they really really made me nod - like a crazy amount.
I'd gotten to the point where even Oxy didn't let me get a full 8 hours without taking a bump in the night - but on this stuff I could sleep more than 8 hours! And it was BLISS!

That is, until these guys ran out. So I decided to get help to come off opiates all togther. And no mater what they gave me, it would not help from the WD from these zenes. They are BRUTAL!

And for the first time ever, I was horrifically sick from WD. Like vomiting none stop for 3 days. And couldn't eat anything either, so it was just stomach acid or water coming up.

The only advice I can give to anyone who has got hooked on this stuff, is to get off them right away, and get back on normal opiates, and really only Oxy would do the business. You would need to take so much codeine or DHC to stop WD from these zenes. But after about a week of not taking Zenes and only taking Oxy, then you can start recovery, and the Subutex or Methadone would actually start to work then.

I know it sounds like the worst advice ever, and of course all opiates are bad, but this Fent / Zenes are the absolute worst. People are safer I'm convinced on either Oxy or even clean H.
This is what I did, just do I could actually get into recovery that would work. And so far, 3 weeks in, it is working.

We have the same story man on this Fent / Zenes. I was hospitalized as well, but even they didn't know what to do. All the Government know over here, is these Zenes are everywhere due to the Taliban shutting down the poppy fields, and it's killing lots of people. They're not only in opiates, I read a young man in Wales died taking fake Xanax with zenes in it.