Community Legal Defense Fund for Market Operators? : darkcontact

1 points

3 weeks ago

I like the thought, however I would think DN people donating using crypto or something just wouldn't be the way to go about it. Plus, someone on their end would have to know about it and know how to get the funds out. How would we know the money is actually going to him and not going to you or me?
I would think that just setting up a gofund me page and blend in with everyone else would be a better approach, but that's just my opinion. Also, maybe start a petition for them on change(dot)org or something. Like they thought though

/u/darkcontact 📢 P

1 points

3 weeks ago

Yes, I see your point – and I respect your concerns.

But I truly believe it’s possible to ensure ASNT gets legal support.
I know some trusted people and can get things moving. I’d reach out to an old contact who might be able to help us organize this properly.

Proof and transparency can be ensured by working with a lawyer who accepts crypto and is okay with some public visibility.
That way it’s good for ASNT – and for the lawyer too.

We could also send funds over the laywer to ASNT’s prison account, so he can buy essentials like food and tobacco.
Even small help makes a big difference.

/u/bi_tux

1 points

3 weeks ago

I believe /u/xSilentStormx might have also meant, and it's really a concern I actually have about, this: if le got the admin's pgp key, dread acc and basically seized every device or digital infrastructure they had, how can we make sure, the feds don't actually pocket all of it?

/u/lemonDragon

1 points

3 weeks ago

maybe use monero multi sig with you, and maybe the admins for this site or someone trusty. that way any one could walk away with the money.

Depending on the type of multisig you will need at least 2/3 holders to have the money ( assuming its monero ) to send shit. maybe even have a panel of six to 10 people who are not keys holder to act as representatives of the dread community to can decide when and how to distribute funds. or set up some type of policy or bi law that says if a certain percentage of dread users say yes that the money will be sent . just spitting ideas .

/u/darkcontact 📢 P

1 points

3 weeks ago

/u/newbieforever2018 ?

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

3 weeks ago

We could also send funds over the laywer to ASNT’s prison account, so he can buy essentials like food and tobacco.

That is a cool idea if you can work out how to implement it.

/u/jackroberts

1 points

3 weeks ago

I'm in for this.but now it's important to see where ASNT is headed. I hope he does not end up in the states. Europe has a much looser prison system. and he will most certainly get a lenient sentence compared to the united states. then it's time to lobby and get him out of prison. there are many ways to do so. but we need a huge crowd behind this. it all starts with petitions. just like Ross Ulbricht's case.

/u/Inquire 🍼

0 points

2 weeks ago

Ross was given a presidential pardon after Trump got his ego stroked good and campaign benefits from that group that was trying to help Ross.

/u/Inquire 🍼

1 points

2 weeks ago

I think this would accomplish next to nothing if it worked, nothing beyond funding a state appointed lawyer's hooker and coke addiction.

POINT 1. "Create a transparent, multi-sig donation address"
This would create persons of interest, and a ledger of fine young individuals that desire to support what is essentially an enemy of every nation state on the planet.
You'd be better off blowing out Peter Thiel's wife's asshole, if he has a wife.
That data would be sat on and eventually used. Even if it isn't used immediately, it's like that A.I. theory where it will turn around and neck everyone that worked against it's existence. You know the one.
It would be used eventually. It makes me think of the quote by some guy. 'Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime.' There's your crime, there's your man.

POINT 2. "Allow markets and users to contribute voluntarily"
That's the point of a Community Fund. Not much to say here, other than, have you ever heard of wallet dusting?
Maybe it's not called dusting I don't remember, but it's when illicit funds are sent to a 'legit' wallet to corrupt the funds held in it.
Think of it like swatting but for crypto.
You thinking this would work for a legal defence fund is astounding.

POINT 3. "Use funds only when verifiable arrests occur."
POINT 4. "Publically report fund usage to avoid abuse."
Joining these two together.
I doubt a semi-trustworthy account holder would go blowing the crypto the way the theoretical receiving legal defense would.
The proof and transparency would work both ways, for us and law enforcement...
Still see my response to point 2 and 1. There is no need to 'publically report' anything, the blockchain is public.
In this case, even if you used monero it would be public.
Not due to blockchain but from the dread post mobilizing this shit, the 'transparency' and the defense receiving the funds.

What would happen is the big G would confescate every penny and or satoshi of dirty money, and purchase new equipment, including new kneepads that will be
used to press into the neck of the next guy that gets busted.

Not trying to be a butthole this is just a retarded idea.
You'd be better off using the money to fund a prison transport bust, that's what I'd call real support.

/u/scenesofsubjection 🍼

1 points

2 weeks ago

this could be said about any legal fund for any controverisal anti-nationstate issue. it's a scare tactic not based on reality. just don't donate with your criminally linked wallet. simple as that. no crime is being committed with it. of course they could do all these things you're saying but it doesn't matter if nothing links back to criminal activity or the people involved aren't criminals.

it's giving fed. clock that tea

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