Am I the only one who think that DNM stealth level is very low, generally?
I can see many positive reviews regarding stealth like, super, great, excellent etc. but honestly it's not even close.
What do you all think? What is considered good/great stealth?
If this post is not appropriate I can delete it, sorry for that.
What is a decoy? Who knows? Apparently they're great.
1 The flimsy packaging is torn and an appreciable quantity of the product is gone
2 The flimsy packaging is torn and the product can be seen
3 The flimsy packaging has arrived intact! You're surprised by this.
4 A Gladbag in an Envelope.
5 A Gladbag in a Satchel.
6 A Gladbag in a Vacuum sealed bag in a satchel.
7 A Gladbag in Mylar sealed bag in a satchel with packing.
8 Mylar sealed and the outer packaging can be removed.
9 Mylar sealed and the inner packaging can be removed.
10 You open it up and go "Where the fuck are my drugs?"
I've had all good experiences. Always very inconspicuous, looks just like all the other parcels going through the system. And secure as hell. The vendor I buy mostly from sends the product in a zip-bag, which is then in a vacuum sealed bag, which is in a box, which is in a plastic postal bag.
maybe I'am expecting too much, but once and only once I got package and even I needed some time to find what i ordered in this envelope.. that's a good stealth
I do think that is good stealth yeah. But where I'm from, domestic mail is very safe. I've worked for the postal service in my country and never saw anything domestic get x-rayed, sniffed by a dog...etc in 3 years I was working there.
aha thx.. so basically small package in EU transit (EU-EU) is pretty safe? cause warrant for this kind of shipments is very rare, I guess? They need to have strong evidence for warrant
i think the best you can hope for in a domestic package from popular vendor is a vacuum sealed product inside a Mylar bag sealed inside a priority envelope. although i have had some domestic vendors do another level of obfuscation and use a decoy or have your Mylar bag inside something marked as something else. those Mylar bags save you though, i have had a package break open and inspected by the postmaster and all the contents where inside the Mylar bag so I didn't get caught. They just delivered the mail inside a plastic bag saying inspected. i told the vendor about this, even sent him a picture of the opened package and he sent my next order in a way i needed power tools to open lol.. if your not getting at least that level of stealth then you should probably choose a different vendor
well you should expect a different level of stealth with an international order that actually goes through customs. for domestic there is very little in the way of hiding your stuff inside the package. some vendors do though i don't want to give away specifics for opsec reasons but i have had my products hidden inside other sealed products before with certain vendors.
Best I ever had was decoy’s every pack. Some were genius. Had some dangerously bad stealth too of course as we all have. Ended up getting off those specific substances but that vendor who shall remain nameless was a pro. It’s always so clear when you find a vendor who cares. I hate waiting days and days just for some lazy fuck to drop my pack in the mailbox.
I see the stealth as anything observable in an unopened pack. Like how does it appear, sound, smell, or otherwise present itself while in the mail stream.
Ideally, however it is shipped, it blends in as unremarkable, neat, lacking any odor, sound, uneven weight distribution, or distinguishable markings outside of the printed shipping label. No speling or address errors. Sturdy packaging, but not overkill. Professional looking, etc.
Decoy on the other hand, is concerned more with the inside and contents of a pack and is kind of it's own separate thing. A pack could have horrible stealth, but a strong decoy inside and vice versa.
A good decoy can withstand a mild/moderate hands-on inspection. A great decoy can be thoroughly inspected and still have a high chance of landing.
Typically domestic packs can land with a very high success rate without a decoy, just great stealth, but INTL orders should always employ a good decoy.
It's totally OK to discuss stealth and decoys as topics and generally speaking, but you never want to discuss specific decoys and stealth techniques or packing methods/materials that vendors use because any LE plowing their snouts through Dread could use info of that nature to potentially profile a vendor's packs in the mail stream.
I think great stealth is just not knowing for sure the drug pack is the one with drugs in it until you open it and get the drugs out. Like if you received several other packages/parcels/letters at the same time, without looking at the labels, if you can't tell which one has the drugs without opening it, that is great stealth.
Great decoy is like #10 says, "Where are the drugs??" Or it shows up with "Inspected by Customs" tape on it, but the drugs are still safe and sound in the stash spot.
You must not be in the US.
From /u/Beelzebub 's wiki - /d/ReviewsOz/wiki/?id=ff135955
How to rate Stealth
A 1-10 scale
What is a decoy? Who knows? Apparently they're great.
1 The flimsy packaging is torn and an appreciable quantity of the product is gone
2 The flimsy packaging is torn and the product can be seen
3 The flimsy packaging has arrived intact! You're surprised by this.
4 A Gladbag in an Envelope.
5 A Gladbag in a Satchel.
6 A Gladbag in a Vacuum sealed bag in a satchel.
7 A Gladbag in Mylar sealed bag in a satchel with packing.
8 Mylar sealed and the outer packaging can be removed.
9 Mylar sealed and the inner packaging can be removed.
10 You open it up and go "Where the fuck are my drugs?"