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DRUG HUB : Market Experience : DarkNetAustralia | Torhoo darknet markets

Nice and quick summary.

More difficult to use, headache around encrypting everything. But overall, the slower user experience and not so fancy UI is more than made up by the fact that the transactions are direct and the whole thing feels more secure.

The site takes a commission of each purchase and there's no wallets you need to use on the site, you just send direct to vendor with market commission.

Comms with vendors are generally slower, but feels a little more professional and secure with their being a PGP encryption at every time.

Vendor experience for me was positive. Got a few freebies thrown in for good measure too.

EDIT: Clarification - The funds are held in ESCROW on market wallets, but once paid, they are not on vendor market wallets. So if you finalise the funds are paid out. It doesn't go directly to the VENDOR from your wallet until you FINALISE.

Thanks for pointing that out in the comments.

Overall positive experience.

/u/Astro80

2 points

1 week ago*

Sweet as my brother got sum funds tonight and gona make a small purchase great to hear a proven success..ya its a touch slow but its simple and effective ...we hardly need Rendered 3D graphics and bells and whistles..it is an illegal darknetmarket..its actually good it kinda forces you to use PGP as I am guilty of being a little slack in this area..lol

/u/dontlaugh I'm serious

2 points

1 week ago

you just send direct to vendor with market commission.

no.. this is an often held misconception of 'walletless' markets.

the market still holds the funds and pays them out as per regular markets. it just means you don't hold excess coin on the market on a buyer wallet.

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago*

Correct. Holds the funds in ESCROW. But not on market wallets.

I have updated my summary review.

/u/dontlaugh I'm serious

1 points

1 week ago

escrow is held by a market controlled wallet and offers the buyer no further protection than a 'market wallet'. if the market has auto withdrawal then you are correct in saying the funds are released direct to vendor. many do not.

drughub eg:

* AutoSweep: Once your cleared balance reaches a predefined amount a withdrawal will be automatically initiated to an address of your choice. However AutoSweep initiated withdrawals are still processed offline.

/u/JessykaRabbit

2 points

1 week ago

Getting a link that works is a FT job my god.

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

Honestly I'll be lucky if I get something within the next two weeks at this rate. I spent all day yesterday trying to figure shit out. Dread being down for 48 hours also unhelpful.

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago

Ask the market for a private mirror, i have one now and it works 100% of the time.

/u/JessykaRabbit

1 points

1 week ago

will do! cheers!

/u/The_Sabbath

1 points

1 week ago

DH really the best atm

/u/theepharmacist

1 points

1 week ago

Drughub seems to be the best market atm due to low downtimes, easy and secure UI.

/u/DontBeADick

1 points

1 week ago

Why not dark matter? I find it the best and also direct payments, stronger security, better UX IMO too. Maybe I missed something though?

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

Do they take BTC? Please say yes.

/u/DontBeADick

1 points

1 week ago

Yes, they don't :p

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

Very funny mate.

/u/whiskeysour

1 points

1 week ago

why would you still be working with BTC?

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

They actually do by utilising a 3rd party exchange during the purchase process, its in their news feed on the site.

/u/0utside772 🍼

2 points

1 week ago

people have been hollering for your return, hope you've seen them all :P

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

I'm slowly getting there mate, people can message me on here too if need be

/u/gonnagoforit P

1 points

1 week ago

I think Torzon accepts BTC mate.

However the only vendor I know on there atm is /u/_Supreme_

/u/Dirtydeedss

1 points

1 week ago

Absolutely spewing Supreme didn't go DMM or even DH even though I find DH to be a huge pile of shit 😅

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago*

Supreme is not on Torzon. I just looked. No sure why OP would say he was.

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago*

Are you winding me up mate?

Supreme is not on Torzon. There's a pile of shit vendors on there including the very worst of them all - ozconnection.

/u/Poppies

2 points

1 week ago

I would not use any H vendor on Torzon.

/u/gonnagoforit P

1 points

1 week ago

They said they would be

/post/833d3f44e14732e911a8/#c-1724a54d3f98d3b5c3

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

My apologies buddy. Not a good day yesterday.

/u/gonnagoforit P

1 points

1 week ago

All good mate

/u/stronguser

1 points

1 week ago

oh god i ordered from them

/u/goober55

1 points

1 week ago

it's so easy to get xmr and so much safer

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago

I tried to get on to it after ABACUS went down but had no luck over two days. Probably DDOS? But was able to get an account on Drug Hub. So I used that.

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

Yeah the encrypting to speak a few words to a vendor is painful. I'm not sure I love the idea that you have to get an invoice and then get the funds there asap or you're liable to be fined 5% or some shit. If only they worked like Abacus. I would have an order landing tomorrow. Now I have to learn about a forsaken cake wallet. and do other mental gymnastics.

The field has really narrowed from the days when there were multiple big markets like alpha nucleus dream etc.

The squeeze is on.

/u/zasrantsi

2 points

1 week ago

Download feather wallet for Monero. If you've ever used Electrum for BTC, using feather will be second nature to you.

Mental gymnastics train your brain to be more flexible and if you've been around since alpha/nucleus/dream markets then you should appreciate the ever so slightly higher bar of entry required to use DH.

/u/baristabruh

2 points

1 week ago

I remember my first order on AB years ago and the vendor had a laugh saying "you don't have to encrypt every message you send man" haha

/u/zasrantsi

1 points

1 week ago

Haha yeah I guess he didn't anticipate the LE takedown and subsequent access to all the unencrypted market data.. lol the irony

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

Put the shoe on the other foot for a second and imagine you had to reply to 10-15 new/prospective customers (along with your buckets of other mail) and tell me taking copy of public key, importing keys, setting recipients, typing out "yes we do mate" encrypting, pasting back in and hitting send. You don't think this is surplus to requirements and a prolific waste of time? Those that wish to converse further with sensitive data with clear text rather than encryption.. well, its natural selection isn't it. Let Darwin sort it out.

/u/dontlaugh I'm serious

1 points

1 week ago

i disagree somewhat. security is paramount in these situations and there's been plenty of users that have sent sensitive info unencrypted on markets. fuck i've seen market feedback with auspost tracking numbers in it.

having a chat on market, although a nice to have at times isn't a necessity and shouldn't be encouraged, even encrypted. do it off market on a forum such as dread. always smarter to disassociated general conversation that could be used at some worst case scenario down the line where it can be linked to something incriminating. dumb cunts or not, i prefer to let darwin stop the dimwits getting their drugs rather than getting them in trouble with the law.

in saying that, i dont envy you having to go through keys to encrypt multiple messages.

the fact that markets have had 'market encryption' for so long and idiots have been using that just proves that people are lazy.

i myself only learned to use XMR and really encrypt everything once i was forced to on WHM when it was the main market. annoyed the shit out of my at first, but definitely gave me a sense of confidence that i wasn't gonna get a knock on the door as a freaked out noob before that.

/u/Poppies

1 points

1 week ago

I've kept it pretty basic. Used to buy BTC anon. Sent directly to blockchain wallet - with no id linked - then straight to the market. Never used electrum. Never tumbled a coin.

/u/zasrantsi

2 points

1 week ago

as the cliche goes, simplest is best!
unfortunately the simpler days are behind us..
Good luck bro :)

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

Feather wallet 👌🏼

/u/dontlaugh I'm serious

1 points

1 week ago

mate, once you get PGP and XMR down pat it's a breeze.

not sure why markets went back to BTC and unencrypted comms. people wonder why markets go down and vendors get busted.

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago

You need to transfer the funds within something like 2-3 hours? I think... Never had a monero transaction take longer than 5 minutes. Even BTC->MONERO->MARKET took like 10 minutes.

/u/JohnWarosa

1 points

1 week ago

Definitely the best market out there rn everythings great except for the UI I just find it disgusting to use it's not as professional as abacus ;(

/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago*

I'm definitely using drug hub more..ii was going to split my meth and ket orders between drughub and Darkmatter,placed a half gram order of Meth with Specialized AU on Drughub absolute breeze,plus easy to verify authenticity with Drughubs Master key,just waiting for shipment..went to place s ket order on Darkmatter...couldn't get on,tried 3 times...fuck it ordered 1g of ket on Drughub with My Drugs a smaller but solid Vendorr, again no issue within 4 confirmations it was detected and again swift as..I think once The firm and Superstar go live on Drughub I probably wont bother checking out 3 markets.. lol was going to use Blackops but. I kinda hated the market wallet system on Abacus so seeing I had to deposit into the market I changed my mind its a vulnerability and risk I don't need....with everything so jumpy and touchy atm...one of these markets who may miss out on the big share may exit the way a couple did like that "( Darkode?)" Who became a jealous fuck when people went to Abacus instead of them after WHM and Torrez closed shop..both a lot more ethically and smartly than most have mind you.lol

/u/TheFirmCo New/Trial Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

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Hey there! Thanks for mentioning us :)

Here's what's coming up:

We'll be active on DrugHub and Black Ops Market later today (11/07).

We're also working to get our listings live on Torzon and Dark Matter Market over the weekend.

Stay tuned we'll keep you updated every step of the way!

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/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago*

Awesome guys...you'll always get business from me..I cant fault a single product ive recieved or purchased for friends.abacus went down and i hadnt left feedback but whilst im not a molly person my mate said the cherry crystals were top tier..the potency and cleanliness of the drugs is Market leading I do and will continue to spread the love between the A grade vendors amongst the Aussie Contingent tho as there's a good little group of them now..I did notice on Blackops your selling .25 deals now I actually love this especially with the great products ive tried..I can have a Drug Yum cha...

/u/TheFirmCo New/Trial Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

Hey Astro! thank you so much for the kind words and continued support. We truly appreciate your loyalty and your honest feedback.

It’s fantastic to hear that you’re satisfied with our products and that your friends are enjoying the cherry crystals! We’re happy you noticed the .25 deals, it’s something we introduced to make the experience even better for our trusted customers like you.

Your willingness to spread the word within the Aussie Contingent means a lot to us. We look forward to keeping up the high standards and providing you with the best possible products. Thanks again for your support and for being a valued part of our community!

/u/Astro80

2 points

1 week ago

Shucks thanks guys.. xx

/u/Dirtydeedss

1 points

1 week ago

I honestly find DH an absolute piece of shit 😅. Am i missing something? DMM is sooo much more user friendly a wayyy better UI. I do not see how DH is better in any way shape or form

/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago

I do in the sense its easier to use and it wasn't fucken down when I went to order..lol...It only has to serve its purpose bro and it serves it well..regardless its not always the best market that gets the lions share..never has been..lol

/u/Cannonera

1 points

1 week ago

Feel this Astro, as long as they serve its purpose and they are online whats the issue

/u/Dirtydeedss

1 points

1 week ago

These are facts, You're right. At the end of the day ot only has to let you put an order in an the vendor process that order. If it can do those two things it's good enough 😅

/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago

I'm trying to give darkmatter props but after numerous sessions of browsing both times ive actually intented to buy the fucken links are down...so how's that better...drughub takes a little loading time but it always seem to be up

/u/Dirtydeedss

1 points

1 week ago

Yeah I'll admit it's a bit shit with the links. But I just go through the daunt links and 1 of the 5 gets me on

/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago*

Yea I did finally make a purchase on Dark matter..I think one thing we can hope for is as with Abacus as a market gets more popular and more people rely on it and in turn makes more money they tend to strengthen weaknesses such as up time and certain niggles that become apparent....hopefully...lol

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

DrugHub are kidding themselves surely... As a vendor who sends out sometimes 50+ messages a day to 40 or so people, some regulars a lot of newbies.. The fact I have to encrypt EVERY SINGLE ONE , even just a reply of "yup thats fine mate" Will be my death, I can hardly keep up as it was on abacus. I think they've completely lost touch with reality. and even though i have a vend there, chances of every using it are pretty slim, DMM for me so far

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago

This is a good point from a vendor perspective. I guess thats what you pay for with security.

/u/lactone Vendor

1 points

1 week ago

yup, but at least have an "unencrypted" toggle button or something for conversations so fucking dreary it would send most LE observers to sleep. when does apparent opsec completely lose sight of common sense?

/u/Astro80

1 points

1 week ago

Yea I havnt delved too deep yet but there doesn't seem to be a fluid chat option...some vendors may like that but you can only reply not send 2 msgs in a row?.I may be mistaken tho

/u/Itzrugz

1 points

1 week ago

[OPSEC FAIL] DrugHub

Just read this OSINT breakdown by Evil Rabbit: https://medium.com/@D4RKR4BB1T47_94097/drughub-how-not-to-operate-a-dark-net-marketplace-0766da100ba2

- Their site logo had metadata linking to macOS & Adobe Illustrator

- Both .su & .link clearnet domains leaked IP 189.2.171.6 (not behind Cloudflare)

- Jabber chat server lived on the same IP/port combo risk of chat takeover

- Hosted in Dubai/UAE extradition treaty = legal risk

Basically, they combined sloppy OPSEC with exposing critical infrastructure.

/u/Itzrugz

1 points

1 week ago

Since it's likely Adobe has access to those who created the branding (e.g. /u/DrugHub) it's likely they're able to track the administrator's whereabouts or what device he was using since we know it's Mac OS, they can assume Apple will be of great assistance due to their tracking technology.

/u/gurkin 📢 Knowledge

1 points

1 week ago

Very good points.

However, Adobe Illustrator does not hold files in the cloud unless you use the cloud services. Unless there's copyright metadata, there's not any way to link to a specific machine or user in the metadata.

If this is the case, I wonder how long the market will operate before the owners jump ship, or to Russia?

/u/gonnagoforit P

1 points

6 days ago

For what it's worth /u/DrugHub responded to this

/post/5d4cd6086d75701ee5b4/#c-4e5e4d0b3307b03b25

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

6 days ago

Exactly. That's why we can't be fucked to address it again.