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feeling uneasy about your first christmas love letter from the onion fields? this might ease your mind: the false positive paradox : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

I wish I could credit the OP of this small food for thought, but alas when the axe came and cut the first head of the hydra (r/darketmarkets on kekkit), it took everything with him. But, I saved the good part of it. The numbers are outdated, as this post dates back to 2016-2017, but the concept remains.


The false positive paradox is a fascinating phenomena of statistics. You can read about it in detail here.

Here is a short version of it. Let's say you have a rare disease that affects 1 in a million people. There is a test that is 99% accurate. If you are tested positive, what is the probability you have the disease? You might think 99%.But it is actually .01%. That's because a 99% test generates a shit-ton of false positives when the probability of an event is really low.

So what does this mean for darknet shipments? Well, first class mail is about 200M per day. I would guess darknet shipments at about 6,000 per day. (would love a correction if someone knows a better number) That means the probability of a piece of mail having drugs is about .00003.

So let's say the USPS has a drug detector that is 99% accurate and they scan all 200M pieces of mail. That means they will generate (.01)*200,000,000 = 2,000,000 false positives. There is just no way that is every going to fly because they would need secondary investigation on all of those. And 99% would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to achieve. As a point of comparison, the TSA is about 4% on simulated terrorist tests.

In order to get it to where they had a reasonable number of false positives compared to the number of drugs shipped, they would need a test that was about 99.99% accurate, giving .0001*200,000,000 = 20,000 false positives. That's a really, really, really accurate test.
/u/weed_doer
2 points
2 years ago
But AI will solve this problem and very soon. We're going to have to change our ways or it will be like Australia or other countries, but worse, and domestically.

Another issue with your analysis is assuming that the only drugs sent in the mail is via darknet. I'd wager we're 1% or less of the total drugs sent in the mail.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
AI gets more credit than it deserves.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
1 points
2 years ago
straya's awright mate. we get by
/u/710slurry
1 points
2 years ago
I live in a land where everyone sends boxes, and VERY FEW do it via dark web, if any (that i know).
/u/Anonmaly
2 points
2 years ago
Upvoted for quality posting, thanks for sharing the statistics!
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago*
I appreciate the sentiment and I agree about the message, but that is just flawed logic lol. If you test positive on a test that is 99% accurate, there is a 99% chance that the test result is correct. Hence the correct name of the 'Base rate fallacy'