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To be fair I personally think that the governments have enough resources to decrypt anything they want if they like. I think they are infiltrating markets as we speak and waiting for the right moment to engage their attacks.

That's just my bet.

And the worst thing you can do is using devices such as phones. So use PGP every time you share your personal information when purchasing something on the markets. If NSA can infiltrate Iran's nuclear program with a virus, which they did, then decrypting our VPN should be piece of cake for them.

Another important thing is to make sure you use a VPN and a sock5. Just make sure that the VPN provider only accepts cryptocurrencies. If they accept credit cards i'm almost 100% sure they store logs, which is what can expose you.

And if you wanna be even more safe then don't log on market when you're home. Go to a cafe and use their wifi.

To end this: If you're a buyer and not a vendor, then you're the small fish and they most likely won't target you, but you never really know

Kind regards
Belli91
/u/elementary
4 points
6 years ago*
128-bit encryption is essentially unbreakable, regardless of what fictional television programs might have you believe.

If NSA can infiltrate Iran's nuclear program with a virus, which they did, then decrypting our VPN should be piece of cake for them

I think they have better things to do with their time than try and track/profile every drugs vendors using that are using proper opsec.

Besides, it is commonly accepted nowadays using a VPN is unnecessary and in many cases can be detrimental to your anonymity.

There are already multiple guides to assist noobs that cover all the necessities for small buyers.
/u/TheHotelLobby
2 points
6 years ago
thanks for this dog
/u/wekhiu48
1 points
6 years ago
I mean just look at the Iphone case, they were unable to break the crypto directly so they use side channel attacks. Iff there was some simple way to break crypto, forensic analysts would not be putting so much time into all these side channel attacks.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
They surely have better things to do but believing that they cannot decrypt your encryption is like. yeh.... With all those police forces who worked together to infiltrate and shutdown wsm I believe they can more than what you might imagine. But again I am no expert.
/u/elementary
4 points
6 years ago*
128-bit encryption means there are 2^128 possible keys. Using brute force of today's best supercomputer technology there is no way we can process more than (worst case scenario) ~2^80 keys per second. Using these values means it would take 2^48 seconds to attempt every possible combination.

2^48 seconds = 9 million years. I think we're safe for now
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Crossing fingers
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
What about when quantum super computers are available? The LE could already be having that. Couldn't that decrypt things a lot faster?
/u/elementary
3 points
6 years ago
Viable quantum super computers with higher processing power than modern traditional computing are many decades away. If future LE want to decrypt my 100 year old address and posthumously incarcerate me then so be it.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
For normal users yeh, but couldn't the LE already have managed to get that since we all know that military grade software and computer are available for them long before it reaches the normal user?
/u/elementary
3 points
6 years ago
The world's current leading supercomputer by processing power, Summit, cost over $200mil and uses fairly traditional processing by supercomputer standards. Even this is many trillions times too slow to be cracking 128-encryption.

So no, LE don't have access to alien level quantum hypercomputing lol
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Good that alien technology isn't available yet :)
/u/elementary
2 points
6 years ago
I'm sure it'll be fun when it arrives - hopefully they bring alien drugs with them
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Next level drugs :)
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Anyway I was just curious, thanks for your information.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
But again, what do I know i'm just curious :)
/u/outerstar
1 points
6 years ago
What if Area 51 has one working right now? We don't know what they have with the billions of RD funds available to them.
/u/belli92 📢
2 points
6 years ago*
You'll never know until it's too late, but again, I'm sure they are focused on more important stuff.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
/u/elementary
1 points
6 years ago
It's simple maths really. The only way round it for LE is if the encryption service ie PGP fucks up big time. But then we're all fucked.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
Yep, they are out there and people who explained it for sure have more knowledge than me.
/u/Astronut1
1 points
6 years ago
Search 'NSA Vulkan Mind Meld'
/u/mrbiggles0007
1 points
6 years ago
That was done because of an interview the president of Iran gave while inside the Nuclear plant.
In the background they could see the make and model of the centrifuges they used.

From there they wrote a virus targeting a very specific type of PLC (Phillips I think)

The infection was transferred by ordinary physical transfer such as someone taking a computer in to be repaired etc.
The virus searched for the specific PLC and stayed dormant if one was not discovered.

There was no actual cracking or hacking into online systems because those systems are not accessible via the internet, they are all offline.

The actual virus only destroyed about 10 or 20% of the centrifuges but it was enough to put the program back by a significant margin.

It destroyed them by sending them into overdrive speed and alternating between that and stop.

What they did was far easier than breaking a 128 bit key.
/u/elementary
1 points
6 years ago*
Thank god I keep my centrifuges locked away
/u/wekhiu48
1 points
6 years ago
Stuxnet and completely breaking AES are two very different things. It speaks nothing about their ability to break encryption just because they are able to make an advanced persistent threat.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
But as mentioned: NSA most likely have better things to do.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
The thing that concerns me is that some people still aren't usng PGP when sharing their personal information, which is very essential when dealing with darknet. Not sure if it's lack of knowledge or simply people being lazy and trusting that markets will take care of their encryption. Most people are most likely aware of this already hence the title "new users"
/u/elementary
1 points
6 years ago
Agreed, but this is essentially Rule Number 1 in every DNM guide. If they are going to be lazy and stupid enough to not read a single guide before jumping in they only have themselves to blame.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
True, unfortunately for them
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago
what do u mean alot still sharing personal information , Its a sort of open statement theoretically the only personal info a user should share to a VENDOR is there identity and address thats it and this is y its necessary to use a pgp program Basically the whole idea while using everything else is to hide your identity. In fact everything else on here doesn't have anything to do with that , So i dont really no where your comming from , PPL should be more concerned about NOT getting PHISHED than worrying about weather the government can decrypt their pgp messages
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
I never assumed that all people are sharing personal information, but some. What I tried to conclude is that the new users should use PGP when dealing with a vendor in case Empire Market or any other market gets seized. That's all I meant because a lot of users were worried about their situation when WSM and dream got seized due to not using PGP
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago
R ok i misunderstood , OK i think i got u , ya saying brand new users should use pgp to speak to vendors till they learn the ropes , This sounds ok but in practice prob wont wk , Basically the vendor u choose prob will get shit loads of messages and your pgp chit chat will get binned this happens often , new users for personal amounts , dont waste your time as theres plenty to learn , Messages on dream auto delete after 30 days , Vendor buyers have different opSec obvious reasons.
New users should spend MAX time learning security as in NOT getting there coins stolen , As there is alot to learn and can be really expensive if u fk it up
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
You're pointing out one issue out of many, but telling people not to bother using PGP is not the smartest. You can't rely on a market's encryption nor can you believe that dream actually did delete the messages after 30 days. They could technically still be stored in their database.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago*
sorry i watched you for ages helping the mirror massive infect the forum totally unaware of what your doing now your advising that newbs only contact vendors through pgp even tho vendors only require sensitive info b encrypted via a STAND ALONE PGP program . You obviously have no real buyer or seller background this is easily determined , Making it up as u go along is dangerous not only to yourself but to any1 else unfortunate not to realize. Mayb u sould learn to walk first . Its for your own safety really . Addon , Also has to b said to b frank your advice sucks as a whole , State the obvious or completely misinform which i think is worse. Most peps b4 they preach they learn the script , Wots your deal fellar
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
I am totally aware of what i'm doing. First of all I am totally into VPN/socks5 as well as PGP. Secondly I've got a strong antenna, so I have hacked people's connection 500 meters from where I live at least, so my ISP would never find me in case my encryption gets decrypted. Most of the time I'm sitting at a cafe as well and using their wifi. So I will never get caught, believe me on that one. I do have a have buyer background. However, I do not have a vendor bound, so I am not selling. I know a lot more than what you expect. Yes I have helped a lot of people access verified mirrors while providing them 5 mirrors at least every time they asked, so they didn't have to worry about looking for a new once every 5 minutes. But with all due respect... You do not know me nor do I know you. However, I taught myself to run long before you managed to walk. To end this: No need to be concerned about my safety. I will never get caught, I know exactly what i'm doing.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Perhaps it sucks for you, but i'm sure the new users are appreciating what i'm informing.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
So before you get to your conclusions I suggest you see the world from a new users point of view. Because some of the more knowledged people who's been explaining the way to stay safe might be hard to understand for, some people.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
And can we stop discussing whether i've been phishing people or not? This Drama has already been concluded and I told people that they will only be shared on my Reddit account from now on due to lack of appreciation here. You're a great example. I never concluded that i'm an expert in anything but I am trying to help where I can.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago*
I'm amazed how some people like you can conclude so many fake things out of thin air. Do your research before assuming stuff you can't prove, such as me infecting the forum with phishing links, which is the exact opposite of what i've been doing lately. Have you seen a single submitted post regarding me handing out phishing mirrors? Not a single one out of 1000+. That should be enough evidence of my intention, which is helping people getting access to their markets before they get shut down. As explained multiple times by now, I do not get my mirrors from dark.fail but directly from the markets themselves while refreshing every 10 mins to make sure they are verified and good to go. So think before you speak instead of accusing me of something I haven't done because you've read 1 or 2 posts about me. If you think about it, my name should be everywhere on Dread as a warning to people that I am scamming them, but not a single so far for about almost a month now. So please back off and learn to walk before you speak.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago
Listen buddy i only read first 3 lines thats will do , LATELY , lol thats because u were stopped , As i said u r totally oblivious , Useem to think its your duty to help which would be great but your fking clueless to be totally honest with u , your advice isnt factual and im sure as shit your tips on how to message vendors ISNT USED IN ANY WAY AS A METHOD OF PRACTICE ANYWHERE ON ANY MARKET , Give it up please it wont change ONLY INFO vendor wants encrypted is your name and addresses using a off market pgp program , All other general chit chat use normal message other wise your message will b ignored as decrypting countless messages using a pgp program takes fking ages. There r only 24 in a day . As i said your not a seller OR a buyer pls use reddit as a channel to talk poo , They dont tend to notice over there and u can blag your way through without being noticed
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago
Also before u go to bed tonight i want u to swallow a DNM Bible but actually put the things in practice before u start your quest of educating the masses , Fking hate que jumpers .
/u/belli92 📢
0 points
6 years ago
Dude what I wrote was directed to the new users who most likely doesn't have the knowledge or simply too lazy to figure out how to stay safe, so nothing I have provided should be criticized. I have admitted that posts regarding safety has been provided by other people with more knowledge than me. So I think you should back off a little and focus on other things. I have helped more than 1000+ people to access legit mirrors daily. The question is what have you contributed to this community other than trying to criticize people who try to help other people?
/u/[deleted]
2 points
6 years ago
Listen i dont want to bust your balls your heart is in the right place , Its just how it is , This isnt a game its REAL life so i think if you r prepared to submit threads on subjects that might affect other users I THINK the person should be responsible for what there saying regardless of their intentions . This is a free world so say what u like but dont be offended if you get called up on it either as it wks both ways , peace dont get phished :)
/u/belli92 📢
0 points
6 years ago*
Me getting phished mate? I make sure people aren't getting phished. And as you mentioned it's not my duty to share mirrors, but I do it because it's morally correct due to people needing their medication. I am fully legit. This is my 2nd account and if I was breaking any rules I would have been banned by now. My first account got banned for informing people that I can provide legit 1 mg Ksalol Galenika Xanax staight from the pharmacy in their original blisters. I wanted to help people to get legit pharmaceutical medicine as we all know that the pressed pills have lost their quality due to the Chinese who is providing the Alprazolam powder has lost its quality. But the ban was due to making me a post where I told people that I can provide legit Xanax. However, I broke I rule due to not having a vendor bond, which I accept fair and square. Learning by doing.

My intention was and is to help people but I broke a rule as mentioned and that's about it.

Kind regards
Belli92
/u/belli92 📢
0 points
6 years ago
Recently i've been flamed and accused for everything, so I apology in advance if I came out a little offensive. I even got accused of creating different accounts to downvote people with a bot, which is totally hilarious. That's why I don't know when I am getting flamed anymore.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
6 years ago
Dont let that bother u , i myself can b borderline rude sometimes this isnt intentional on most occasions , As i said free world so say wot ever the fk u like. Remember verify the shit out of anything and everything related to this venture , Only takes the ONE TIME to take your eye off the ball . Also make a new account and only use empiremktxgjovhm to gain access . PROXIE PHISH ATTACKS, Can render 2FA secured accounts useless , phish phrase , avatar , anything else that makes your account unique to owner can be mirrored , USE ALL security on account. PROOF OF OWNERSHIP is as far as im aware the only METHOD to determine 100% that your account isn't compromised . But who the fk really nos is any1 s quess. Also use full/or paids programs , Check your system regularly the same for changing passwords an shit. U might think im talking shit lol thats cool , Iv never been phished , I gave my details to rouge Olympus admins unintentional , i used duel logins that dont count :)
/u/belli92 📢
0 points
6 years ago
Don't worry mate. I am aware of all that but the new users might not be, which is why I am posting information that most likely have been provided by people with more knowledge than me.

Thanks for keeping a clean tone by the way. It's a rare thing nowadays.

Kind regards
Belli92
/u/outerstar
1 points
6 years ago
Not only am I a buyer not a vendor, but all my orders are small cannabis orders, with the odd exceptionally rare LSD order. But unfortunately I did not encrypt my one and only order on Wall Street for an ounce of weed so LE have my address. I am hoping LE let me slide due to the single order of weed.
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
To be fair.... They don't care and you're most likely safe so don't worry
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
They went for the big vendors and that's about it to be fair.
/u/AZERTY
1 points
6 years ago
>I am hoping LE let me slide due to the single order of weed.

they can't prove *you* ordered just someone used your address. don't keep anything you need "slided" in your house and there's nothing they can do
/u/belli92 📢
1 points
6 years ago
Exactly, just deny everything and don't have anything at your place.
/u/Shakybeats M Modinator
1 points
6 years ago*
The best advice to give people is to just not use a VPN at all. Most people do not configure them correctly and it just creates a false sense of safety. People really need to stop using windows/mac computers without using Tails or Whonix. If you can't manage to set either of those up then there is no way people will setup a VPN correctly.

Also every single person that does anything on here should be using PGP. The amount of people that don't is still mind blowing
/u/belli92 📢
0 points
6 years ago
I don't disagree with any of you but I just wanted to warn people and thanks for your feedback. I am far from an expert but just wanted to try and help out. I just personally think if they really wanted to decrypt your connection, they can, but again. I could be wrong.