Fraud communities are now subject to new restrictions and standards : Fraud | Torhoo darknet markets
I'm taking the time here to address the community regarding a pressing issue with Fraud related subs, which has plagued Dread since its inception. It is no secret that I am not fond of fraud and if I was to have acted on opinion then it would have been banned from the start, or later prohibited. I have done more than enough now to house fraud vendors/buyers on the platform and the cons outweigh the pros in this situation (did that just turn into a pun/double meaning?).
For too long these subs have been left out of my sight and I've possibly been ignorant towards it, relying on the Moderators of these communities to handle things in line with how I'd expect it to be moderated, but without ever communicating them expectations. It has recently become more and more apparent that a change is needed, after multiple contraversies with these subs and past moderators who had to be removed and now, as you can expect from this category of products and services, scams. Fraud is always inherantly going to open more avenues for scams to occur here, so the options we have had to consider have been either a complete ban, or something more in line with the standard of the DNM subs, which I think should have always been the case.
As of this moment, I have limited multiple Fraud related subdreads to require approval on all posts. Until this point, anyone could create a new account and immediately post an ad for a product or service within the Fraud community, completely unhindered for the most part. This has and would have continued to lead to users having their money stolen, which is maybe ironic or what some would consider as deserved for attempting to purchase something to defraud someone in the first place. The thing here is that this shouldn't be happening so easily and it massively promotes direct deals within Dread which is in violation of the site-wide rules.
I will be discussing this with current moderators of these communities and how they should handle things going forward, which will likely give them a large work load, but it seems to be the best option at this time. There is no solution where everyone wins, but hopefully this makes a big difference here.
Going forward, all subs that fall into the Fraud category will be required to approve all new posts. Ad posts should only be approved for CONFIRMED market vendors, which subdread mods will have to verify. Anyone offering anything should have no excuse to not be on a market, which allows users to then research feedback for the vendor to determine their legitimacy as well as having the option to use escrow when dealing with them.
I will now need to have a full list of affected subs compiled so I can apply these regulations there also, as of right now the subs that have been amended are:
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlJuSmhkV1E9#
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlJuSmhkV1E9#Resources
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlEyRnlaR2x1Wnc9PQ==#
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlJtOXlaMlZ5YVdWeg==#
Thank you for your understanding, if things seemingly get out of hand again with these subs, it will be the final time, this is a final warning. Any subdread mods who do not want to deal with this new work load, feel free to leave your role, I understand this may not be what you signed up for with it, but it is absolutely necessary.
OH BOY, OH BOY, FINALLY, OH BOY
Still rather sure I will be disappointed after reading9/10------------------------------
> As of this moment, I have limited multiple Fraud related subdreads to require approval on all posts
Okay I am semi-erected
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> which will likely give them a large work load
Not only work but far more important - actually being accountable for cancer
Yeeting cheap no0b-scammers off dread is a "necessary evil" at worst...
If you ban fraud forum there needs to be a replacement for it. Regardless, people will still be coming to this forum, the dark web in general, for ways to outsmart the system, and come up financially. maybe we can replace it with semi-ethical come- ups. the hardest part about creating that forum would be finding a replacement word that encompasses "fraud" or "carding," bc semi ethical come ups is verbose. not enticing ...
Not to mention who the fuck thinks someone is going to post or sell good shit openly and make it easier for fraud investigation to find it or for some dipshit to go and blow the whole thing with broken english???
Do not ask users to divert conversations to PMs in any manner. This includes any contact info. To cut down on scams and false sales and transactions, we are instituting temporary bans for users violating this policy.
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'use your brain. dont look for easy shits. usually does not exist.
fraud these days take some for of brain, knowledge, creativity.
most if not all the easy sounding shits are simply scams.'
I provide the tools (physical high limit card). The user educates themselves to know what to do with it and how to use it successfully. Take your own advice dope.
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Even when you posted about incognito exit scam you guys saved so many users from losing funds. I think you guys deserve a tip jar during moments like that.
Just my 2 cents.
I don't know that this is true. I could see 50% of the userbase being "strictly buyer never vendor"s. These wouldn't fall into the category of trying to make money or finding info on making money. Spending their money more wisely is closer to it
Yeah but as we both know so far it "served the platform as a whole" in negative volume over the past years. At this point the whole "frauding wannabe-fraudsters" economy will have to at least put some work in lol.
Retards are motivated to rape retards because of the eventual payoff, and retards are motivated to get raped by oher retards due to promises of possible eventual payoffs. There's a certain kind of people who posses a certain type of brain wiring that makes them more prone to getting scammed and believing in fairytales.
You can tell someone a million times "don't send that person money, what they're saying is untrue/impossible" - they're gonna do it anyway. Fraud attracts desperate people, and desperate people end up getting preyed on. It's sad, but unavoidable.
Only way to stop it truly is disable all posting, disable all commenting, disable private messages. When you remove the scammers ability to communicate with their prey, they can't scam them. But that kind of defeats the purpose of a message board, doesn't it?
If your wet dream came true and /d/C&F was magically deleted from Dread, do you actually think the scammers would go away? No, they would just post the exact same bait content in other subdreads (fake money, debit+pin physical, hacking as a service, changing grades, etc..). The only reason they post in /d/fraud is because it's the best place for it because they know all 70K people in this sub are already looking for their "product".