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Full WSM Story (Crimintal Complaint from USA) : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

Here guys for those who haven't saw it already, very interesting read. Goes into a lot of detail how it happened.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Wall-Street-Market-adminstrator-COMPLAINT.pdf

Let us know what you think. They had images of the server from way back 2018, they have been working on the case for a while and I believe they could have taken them down whenever they wanted, however they keep it running as the admins were already in their pocket to arrest whenever they feel like it.

It was the exit scam which speeded up the process. They probably thought with so many millions these people could disappear overnight in an overseas country. They decided to put their foot down.

Seems like many many shitty opsec errors, but I mean what do you expect. I am also now more convinced than ever that SpeedStepper has been arrested and Dream got taken offline. BTC withdrawals remained continuous in order to attempt to catch vendors. BTC is one of the main ways vendors can get caught.

I believe LE can reach anybody they feel like, when they feel like it. It just depends if you are a priority target or not.
/u/pumpedupkids
12 points
6 years ago
Med3lin's got a quick hand
He'll look around the danknet, he won't tell you his plan
He's got a rolled cigarette, hanging out his mouth he's a doxxboi kid
Yeah found a way to exit scam
In his admin's panel, hidden oh in a box of fun things,
i don't even know what
But he's coming for you, yeah he's coming for you


All the other kids, with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, outrun LE
All the other kids with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, faster than Speedstepper
All the other kids, with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, outrun LE
All the other kids with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, faster than Speedstepper


Vendor works a long day
He be coming home late, he's coming home late
And he's bringing me a surprise
'Cause my speed's in the kitchen and it's packed in ice
I've waited for a long time
Yeah the ESCROW of my order is now a quick press FE
I reason with my lawyer
And say your address's in plaintext, you must have lost your wits, yeah


All the other kids, with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, outrun LE
All the other kids with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, faster than Speedstepper
All the other kids, with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, outrun LE
All the other kids with no PGP skills
You'd better run, better run, faster than Speedstepper
/u/Avengerhacks
1 points
6 years ago
Put a beat to it and you'll be famous in no time.
/u/MisterMeatMan
1 points
6 years ago
Hah there is already a beat for it! I knew it was something by line 2, then for sure what it was when the chorus kicked in haha. Wish I could give awards on dread.
/u/lavivaloca
1 points
6 years ago
this is just beautiful.
/u/reeko
1 points
6 years ago
Time well spent, I would FE if you were my vendor
/u/PharmaSyndicate
9 points
6 years ago*
1. Don't use a vpn unless you're backed by tor, aka only use tails if possible
2. Coin mixers are uselss, Monero is the only known solution for mixing correctly (Assuming Monero is safe)
/u/rodriguez11
2 points
6 years ago
Hello, I registered just to ask you something about this...
As we can from this case and if I understand what happened - VPN providers are risky to use for DNM activity.
So, it is safest only to use Tails and TOR on Tails, without any VPN?
If not, question is: What is the safest way to access DNM's?
Thanks.
/u/sineck
1 points
6 years ago
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/u/Donatello43
1 points
6 years ago*
[removed]
/u/MisterMeatMan
2 points
6 years ago
Sounds like someone forgot to put the kill-switch on their VPN.
/u/wwooaahh
1 points
6 years ago
what does backed by tor mean?
/u/kmfkewm
2 points
6 years ago
"backed by tor" as in the criminal complaint noted that the VPN connection "seized on occasion" and revealed his connection (ip address)..he is saying if he used both one could have been used as a "fail-safe" in case one of the connections dropped but had he been using iptables that wouldn't have been possible.
/u/PharmaSyndicate
1 points
6 years ago
Thanks for clarifying
/u/PoppyTea
1 points
6 years ago
I really don't get why they just used a VPN? They accessed the server of a huge darknet market and didn't think of a better method than using a VPN?
/u/TeamTexas
2 points
6 years ago
tell me a better method ? honestly, they should of had a laptop in a car with a signal antenna using mcdonalds wifi from like 2 blocks away
/u/pulsearchives
1 points
6 years ago
Yes indeed
/u/PoppyTea
1 points
6 years ago
Tor behind the VPN would have been a good method.
/u/PharmaSyndicate
1 points
6 years ago
My guess is just being lazy, people get comfortable after a while, that's what LE is looking for, that moment when you slip up, we've all seen it in movies
/u/onomottofucko
1 points
6 years ago*
Forgive my beginner knowledge, can you explain or point me to where I can learn more about why coin mixers are useless?

Nevermind, I'm learning enough just cruising this thread smh
/u/PharmaSyndicate
1 points
6 years ago
The criminal complaint above shows that LE "un-mixed" the coins that the alledge criminals we're cashing out. I highly suggest that everyone gives it a good read.
/u/onomottofucko
1 points
6 years ago
Yeah I came to see that after, thanks for the kind reply mate
/u/cvrnb2
1 points
6 years ago
I believe that they were able to de-mix the transaction due to the large amounts of BTC being transfered. For small amounts, I beleive blockchain analysis becomes much harder, no?
/u/PharmaSyndicate
1 points
6 years ago
I would suppose so yes
/u/throwaway090
5 points
6 years ago
13. Similar to the above, the funds from Wallet 4 were also “mixed” by a commercial service, and through thorough analysis, the United States Postal Inspection Service was able to “de-mix” the flow of transactions, to eventually ascertain that funds from Wallet 4 paid FROST’s accounts at the Gaming Company.


14. Similar to the above, the funds from Wallet 5 were also “mixed” by a commercial service, and through thorough analysis, the United States Postal Inspection Service was able to “de-mix” the flow of transactions, to eventually ascertain that funds from Wallet 5 paid FROST’s account at the Gaming Company.


y'all motherfuckers need monero
/u/Dalinar
1 points
6 years ago
Yep, what was the email service that now is changing btc to monero? Also, does anyone have a guide on using a monero wallet on tails?
/u/Qtip2277
2 points
6 years ago
Go to d/monero and the first stickied post on the sub has everything you need
/u/Dalinar
1 points
6 years ago
Thank you very much
/u/JACKJACK
1 points
6 years ago*
Thank,i will probably add this on /d/knowyourrights,and bitcoin is doable ITS just how you mix them.However i do agree user above me /d/monero
Also the Admin was moron,who on earth speaks to LEA when his PC was opened.As soon as you get arrested get a lawyer,call a lawyer...smh
/u/anon911
5 points
6 years ago
I dont think bitcoin is doable, when they actually have your wallet, it takes a lot of resources to disguise your destination and if enough resources is put up, they can find you.

As a consumer, this is not dangerous, even for the vendors, but seeing we are going away from hot wallets into wallet-less markets, now LE have access to each specific vendor withdraw address.

Mixers have proven to be scams time and time again, so what people do is "commercial mix" meaning, they put their coins through bitcoin business, such as casinos and what not. that again, very easy to de-camouflage.

Not adopting monero fully is just ignorance at this stage, especially considering we know how LE is working now.
Soon, you should demand monero and stop supporting BTC in your illegal business.


BTC is great, but the average or even the most advanced vendor, will have issues when state entities spend unlimited resources to find you.

Wash your coins through XMR
/u/JACKJACK
1 points
6 years ago
exactly! Clarification on point.Casinos especially casinos in UK,GERMANY ROMANIA AND Canada all have accomplice with certain USA LEA ENTITIES.if they see you're withdrawing more or less they will shut down account and investigate transaction BTC LTC ETH ETC..With bank regulating crypto now the feds want to know everything about it.I wouldn't be surprised if in the next few year's XMR becomes sort of De-anonimize but i could be wrong.Always XMR ALWAYS.its 2019 LOL
Don't reuse withdrawal addresses. Mix coins properly and check the mixing service. I get private keys to withdraw funds from outputs from before I deposited coins to the mixing service. Good luck analyzing that on low volume and a self-imposed randomized waiting period. Of course I have someone else then exchange it for cash too. Washing through XMR is another option if you can find an exchange with reasonable volume and no accounts/logs. Too bad XMR volatility is killing.
/u/anon911
1 points
6 years ago
wallet-less markets ask you for withdrawel address, you can of course change it, but you are not supposed to, it supposed to go direct to your wallet.
It will still go to your wallet, just a different address. While analysis might provide reason to assume they belong to the same wallet it does alleviate the issue by providing some level of obfuscation (and deniability). You're free to go with a fresh wallet or just use the old model of generating a bunch of addresses (no seed) though. Be careful selecting/combining inputs as to not create an obvious link*.

Example:
You are a seller on market X starting in 2010.
Market X gets infiltrated or whatever by LE in 2013.
Market X goes offline 2014.

In that case if you have been using the same withdrawal address since 2010 they will now be able to see the whole amount transacted over 4 years.
Assume now you changed your address regularly. There is no obvious link between addresses and thus they can only ascertain the transacted volume from 2013 onwards.

*you can combine BTC sent to different addresses in a single transaction, which is exactly what (modern) wallets do, clearly linking them
/u/thechaoz
1 points
6 years ago
We need this in cliff notes for dummies.
/u/Elude Email Service Provider
1 points
6 years ago
Elude.in! Our email service has a built in wallet, or if you don't want to use email, you can do an exchange from btc to xmr or xmr to btc without an account.
/u/VoidKreep464
1 points
6 years ago
yep! monero is love. monero is life.


XMR > BEHIND BARS!
/u/OFFICE39
1 points
6 years ago
why does your post office ''de-mix'' bitcoin transactions... did you run out of letters to make up a new government department for this sort of thing?
/u/AlpraQueen
1 points
6 years ago
No, they are USPIS. Pretty much analysts for the USPS in dark web transactions.
/u/OFFICE39
1 points
6 years ago
wow... USA has too much money.. should stop picking on the little guys.
/u/Apostate
4 points
6 years ago


3. During the BKA’s investigation, the BKA determined the
WSM administrators accessed the WSM infrastructure primarily
through the use of two VPN
service providers. The BKA
determined that one of the administrators (based on the fact
that this individual was accessing control elements of WSM to
which only an administrator had access) used VPN Provider #1.
Based on the BKA’s analysis of the WSM server infrastructure,
the BKA noticed that on occasion, VPN Provider #1 connection
would cease, but because that specific administrator continued
to access the WSM infrastructure, that administrator’s access
exposed the true IP address of the administrator.


According to the Dutch National Police, which
issued legal process from Github, a platform for software and
coding development sharing, LOUSEE holds an account with the
user name “codexx420” similar to the administrator account
“coder420” found on the Gitlab server.


The third administrator for WSM was known as “TheOne,”
and as described below, the investigation has further revealed
probable cause to believe that FROST is “TheOne” for two primary
reasons. First, as described below (at paragraph 30), the PGP
public key for “TheOne” is the same as the PGP public key for
another moniker on Hansa Market, “dudebuy.” As described below,
a financial transaction connected to a virtual currency wallet
used by FROST was linked to “dudebuy.” As explained above in
paragraph 4.l, a PGP public key, in the context of darknet
investigations, is likely a unique identifier to an individual.
Second, as described below (at paragraph 31), investigators have
identified a wallet used by FROST that subsequently received
Bitcoin from a wallet used by WSM for paying commissions to
administrators.


You've got to be shitting me.
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago
Trust me that is not the worst of it.. I found it strange LE were able to attain a warrant to mirror the server because that means they've located the server with enough probable evidence.

Turns out the server IP address was public on twitter in 2017 with the market accessible on clearnet. They didn't even move to another data center location once it was public... This was essentially handed to LE as a gift
/u/anon911
2 points
6 years ago
who exposed it on twitter?
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago*
https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/77jfd1/wall_street_markets_ip_address_is_exposed/

https://mobile.twitter.com/x0rz/status/921016966596440066

I know /u/HugBunter mentioned previously it was likely a proxy set up by a competitor, but as debated in reddit thread, it bypasses CAPTCHA and loads too fast to be proxied with TOR. Thought I saw the IP address of one of those under the same subnet as the recently seized one, but I may be wrong and am fucking tired at the moment to dig into that right now..

Regardless, the Netherland servers were imaged in April 2018 and the IP address posted publicly October 2017. The period between aligns enough for LE to investigate and gather the necessary paperwork. Skimming the affidavit again and I saw the Netherland servers used for virtual currency transactions and code repo.. Maybe it was used as a QA environment?

If Hug recognizes any of those servers or anyone can shed some light, it would be extremely interesting to know. I'll dig into this more later after sleeping.
/u/HugBunter A
2 points
6 years ago
It 100% was a phishing site, it used a fixed session for bypassing the captcha. The server entropy was completely different.

They would have had to have imaged the server a lot faster if that IP leak was relevant, because the server would have been burned that very same day.

It is also worth mentioning that the server they imaged was their Bitcoin server, not the market server, unless I need to re-read the criminal complaint. I would be interested in how they deanonymized that though, unless their wallet was connected to the server IP address at some point.
/u/DarkDesk
2 points
6 years ago
Imaged crypto server yes, on complaint they knew location of all (netherlands, romania, germany). They have the market server.
/u/AlpraQueen
1 points
6 years ago*
As other comments mentioned, they definitely imaged more than the Bitcoin server in the criminal complaint. Were your findings something you discovered yourself or from a source? Not trying to doubt your claims, but a phishing site for WSM in 2017 is a bit odd to me since they were small and login details don't hold a wallet of vaue to deposit/withdraw from compared to other markets.

From #22 below, they did have a server in the Netherlands for their code repo, development, testing, and updating of infrastructure. This leads me to think that it might have been a QA environment that produced the differences you stated instead of a phishing site. And the cookie could've easily crumbled down with the Gitlab server...

Edit: Noticed in the twitter post that the DNM was down while the mentioned IP address was loading fine. If true, it should not have been able to work as a proxy without a source linking to the main servers


20. In the course of BKA’s investigation, and pursuant to valid legal process in Germany, the BKA identified the servers operating WSM. Through valid legal process, the BKA imaged a copy of the database of WSM. The BKA has reviewed that database and confirmed that the database held information for WSM. I have also reviewed that database and confirmed that it is part of the infrastructure enabling WSM to operate. For example, in my review of the database imaged by the BKA, I observed that the SQL database was named “tulpenland.”

21. In reviewing the WSM database, I reviewed the settings table. Based on my review of the settings table, I learned that it included conversations between The Administrators using the monikers “coder,” “TheOne,” and “Kronos.” Those conversations are in German and discuss, among other things, WSM server maintenance, concerns regarding vendors, and payments between The Administrators. Further, the settings table reveals that payments from WSM are split into three equal parts, one for each of The Administrators and paid once a month.

22. Additionally, the BKA advised me that in its analysis of the WSM infrastructure that was located in Germany, it found another server, located in the Netherlands, responsible for the development, testing, and updating of the WSM infrastructure (the “Gitlab server”). The Dutch National Police, in the course of its own investigation, and pursuant to valid legal process in the Netherlands, obtained an image of the Gitlab server. I also reviewed a copy of the image of the Gitlab server, and confirmed that it was part of the WSM infrastructure because of, among other things, the server contained programming code language for
design, functionality, and maintenance of WSM.
/u/v0id0ne
4 points
6 years ago
"Based upon my training, experience, and research, I know that: a.The Internet is a collection of computers and computer networks which are connected to one another via high-speed data links and telephone lines for the purpose of communicating and sharing data and information." (Leroy Shelton - FBI Special Agent "SA")

Nice! Mr. Cyber Crime Squad goon knows what the internet is!! Damn! This is so fucking sad.
p27 8. Based on my training and experience as an investigator, I
am aware that “420” is a reference to marijuana.

And here I was thinking he just had bad eyesight.
/u/ProfessorX
1 points
6 years ago
It's 2019 and the FBI is l33t now. Hack the Planet!
/u/MisterMeatMan
1 points
6 years ago
Hilarious, but understandable why it is necessary to state. Likely, at some time in the past, a lawyer had a special agent on the stand and asked him a very simple question:

LAWYER: So mister "special agent", since you're such an expert, please detail for the court an overview of the underlying infrastructure and protocol that run the internet?

SPECIAL AGENT: Sir, it's like TV but you can tell it what to do.

LAWYER: Ladies and gentleman of the jury, let it be noted that without a basic understanding of the internet, every finding and assumption found through the internet is now brought into question.

*Defendant slaps the paralegal a high five under the table*
/u/benzolover1488
3 points
6 years ago
So many small avoidablr mistakes these guys made, I mean fuck if you're gonna run a market you gotta have imppecable opsec,like no room to cut corners. I mean shit first they used an obviously shitty vpn provider, one of the admins connected the the WSM infastructure without the vpn(hey LE heres my real ip), and the codex420 dude basically using same username for WSM activities and non WSM stuff when obviously those should have been made as two different identities. Stupid mistakes, everyone take not and don't ever cut corners with opsec
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago
It sounds more likely to me they were trying to arrest the admins and run WSM undercover to collect IP's similar to Hansa, but the scam put that to a stop.

Not sure what happened with Dream and rather not go into conspiracies, but the "rogue mod" asking for the first btc address used to deposit is highly suspicious for someone just looking to scam..

AlphaBay and Hansa all over again huh?
/u/anon911
2 points
6 years ago
that exit scam, was pre-empted and actually saved many lives.

many had not yet integrated into WSM, many was waiting on the fence(the smart ones) before joining WSM, they pulled the exit within 1 month of being nr 1, probably hoping LE would forget them or they never wanted the nr 1 spot... How funny that LE knew they were the same guys behind German Plaza bazar.

that same rogue mode asked for the vendor password, means he is playing with the vendor.

Dream is still up, and those with moderator access can still respond and act on support tickets.

After your market exit or shut down, as a moderator your moniker is basically done! when people got nothing to lose, they try to scam, just like medellin
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago
I think we don't give Med enough credit hahaha. He was a dramatic piece of shit for doxxing but it made most people get off WSM and clean house when LE had everything already.

Mod asking for the password also works out for LE if they wanted to sign into vendor's accounts for any addresses/messages to collect. Not sure how they set up privileges to view order details, but asking for first deposit address is highly questionable or useless in this case.
/u/HighLifeAsia
1 points
6 years ago
Be safe, stay safe
/u/Mid1800sVictorianMan
1 points
6 years ago
Public Wifi
Tor Router
VPN with killswitch to only allow network traffic to/from the VPN.
/u/blondiebill
1 points
6 years ago
could you elaborate a little on how you're using a tor router with a vpn? I was thinking I would make a vpn router and then use tails.
/u/highayr
1 points
6 years ago
These guys got caught because they used a VPN , and the VPN shared their data.
/u/v0id0ne
1 points
6 years ago
Never, ever use a VPN with Tor!! I don't know how many times this has to be said. Tor's own devs have said never use a VPN.
/u/kmfkewm
1 points
6 years ago
smart enough to run a market but not enough to use iptables? reusing wallets ? Surprised they made it so far
/u/Elysium
1 points
6 years ago*
8d. Usually after the vendor confirmed on WSM that the contraband had been shipped, WSM released the funds to the vendor for payment from the customer, less commission fees retained by WSM.

I had never used WSM, so I have a stupid request: please tell me that what is implied here isn't true.
Did a WSM vendor get the funds before the order was marked as received?
Reading that complaint like someone from LE would, this sentence automatically renders all vendors as scammers.
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago
No, there was escrow.
/u/PoppyTea
1 points
6 years ago
No, that's just poorly described here.
/u/MisterMeatMan
1 points
6 years ago
Nope, if he knew what he was talking about it would read "Usually, after the BUYERR confirmed..."
/u/diode
1 points
6 years ago
Pure dumbass. Love the pumped up kids parody. Read the complaint. These were some fake ass criminals. Just some computer ppl with a pension for exit scams.
/u/madeinusa
1 points
6 years ago
good point
/u/ohbullsit
1 points
6 years ago
they only asked how high :D
/u/MisterMeatMan
1 points
6 years ago
Check out the LE's vendor level and page on bottom of p. 14

Solid rating.
/u/MisterMeatMan
1 points
6 years ago
Further investigation revealed that these packages came from a vendor, "U4IA," who advertised on WSM... ...I learned that this darknet vendor had been convicted for distributing fentanyl resulting in the overdose death of the Florida resident and was sentenced to 12 years in prison.


I have such a hard time reconciling my feelings that any individual should be able to put whatever they want in their body, and that all drugs (whether pharmacy supplied or private-vendor supplied) should have to undergo testing with the fact that it's probably in the best interest of some individuals that LE goes after extremely specific cases such as this - selling any product without having it third-party certified.

Slippery slope either way I suppose.
/u/pulsearchives
1 points
6 years ago
Hang on though, they didnt say that there were any impurities or what have you that resulted in the death, only an overdose. I am assuming that this spray was supposed to have fentanyl in it so I believe that the responsibility lies solely on the user in this case. Its not like they bought mint breath spray and got blasted with fentanyl instead. OK there may have been a higher concentration of fentanyl in the spray than advertised but I doubt that this would have been a one off, we would have heard about other cases where the same thing happened. Although I do agree that having some form of quality assurance is a must for users of all drugs from caffeine to methamphetamine.
/u/pulsearchives
1 points
6 years ago
So here are my thoughts and questions about this situation...

What provider was hosting the server? Does anyone care to speculate on this? Do you think they were using a "bulletproof" hosting service and if so are they really actually bulletproof or only as bulletproof as their security updates. By this I mean LE have stockpiled zero day exploits for this EXACT situation so vendors, admins and buyers alike should assume that you could be compromised at any moment and conduct yourself on the darkweb accordingly as no human has the capacity to discover and plan for EVERY possible type of attack.

Settings table included conversations? Can anyone with more DB knowledge than me explain this? Does SQL have some sort of built in means of communication ?

These guys weren't stupid, I mean they made mistakes but they weren't stupid so they'd have to be using an all singing all dancing VPN provider like cyberghost, nordvpn etc who do not collect logs. With that said the fact that 1 admin was identified by virtue of his VPN provider shitting the bed must mean that said provider does not have a killswitch feature or at least does not have it active by default. Can anyone help me narrow down the list of potential providers based on this? Clearly we should all avoid said provider/s.

Just for a laugh id love to know how long LOUSEE had that UMTS stick. How the hell was he not rotating that thing out every few weeks or so boggles my mind, and he was administrating the site from home WTF? Even for vendors is that not rule breaking DN OPSEC number 1? That is like Pablo escobar putting a sign outside his mansion saying "Buy coke in bulk here". Please. Then on top of that these guys were using WSM associated BTC addresses to make direct purchases, what ?

As others have said a lot of this can probably be put down to the 'laziness over time' disease that most crimianls catch. However the insecurity (in terms of anonymity) of BTC has nothing to do with that. BTCs intrinsic public nature is in my opinion the biggest contributing factor to the downfall of these admins. Therefore as others have mentioned we should all switch to monero immediately and demand that all markets do the same. Surely any sensible DNM admin is considering doing that at this very moment.

Aside from that they got what was coming to them as they exit scammed TWICE so fuck them. I look forward to hearing their sentencing.
/u/ITSMANDY
1 points
6 years ago
I believe LE can reach anybody they feel like, when they feel like it. It just depends if you are a priority target or not.......

DOY

It just matters how important you are if they want to point a satellite at you or not.
/u/noban
0 points
6 years ago
VIDEO
Instagram account : politie_landelijke_eenheid

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/u/rebelhawk309
-1 points
6 years ago
as it was mentioned iin another Thread:
it was or is not illegal tto run the Platform/Marketplace itself.
No Crime, no Prosecution.
The Scam on the other Hand...
I gues they can get a Big Number of Years in Jail.
/u/ThreeEyedFox
1 points
6 years ago
Is it really not illegal? I mean, there has to be some illegality in running a marketplace since they are basically facilitating the trade of illegal goods.

Isn't it the same as buying legal stuff on the DNM? You might not be buying anything illegal, but you are aiding a criminal organization. Of course, I don't think LE is going to be so interested in you, but I thought it was illegal anyway.

Just a question, I'm actually curious because I've read different opinions. Maybe some people here can shed some light on this topic.
/u/AlpraQueen
1 points
6 years ago
Running a market in the dark web is pretty illegal.. Ask Ross Ulbricht who tried that exact argument.
/u/rebelhawk309
1 points
6 years ago
as for the owner of the Marketplace its easy.
See, he is just hosting a Plattform for Vendors to sell their Products.
Can you make Ebay responsible for having Counterfit Items to be sold on their Plattform ?
Never will that happen.
/u/3rtuas
1 points
6 years ago
They were getting commissions on transactions. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
/u/themanintheyellowhat
-2 points
6 years ago
WOW

The bottom line here is that it is very difficult to do anything clandestine without making a mistake.

I do thank the WSM for it's contribution to the Dark Web Markets and I wish them nothing but love.
/u/AlpraQueen
2 points
6 years ago
Wtf, seriously?
/u/v0id0ne
2 points
6 years ago
PLEASE! Don't feed the troll in the yellow hat!
/u/duderugs
1 points
6 years ago
If LE are after you they will get you eventually but the mistakes those admins made were really basic OPSEC errors. If you are running a market you just cant afford to make any mistakes. Reusing identities that tie back to your real identity is just crazy, WTF how hard is it to think of new nym for RUNNING a DN market FFS
/u/imwiserthanyou
1 points
6 years ago
You're not going to show them love thats bullshit. They tried running with everyones cash...
/u/themanintheyellowhat
1 points
6 years ago
My friend, I don't know for sure about anything.

It is a loss for all, when the dark web loses a market.

It is also tragic that anyone, should ever have to suffer the situation of being in a great deal of trouble and having to spend time in jail.

Everyone falls, everyone makes mistakes. However, I feel compassion, not condemnation, when others fall, or make mistakes.
/u/LowIQ
0 points
6 years ago
are you kidding lol? this was some fucking rookie mistkakes that a pro programmer and intelligent person would never do..

Put /wallstreetmarket coded by the best in your code lol really nigga?
Use vpn that leaks ips. Reuse old pgp address
etc
/u/themanintheyellowhat
2 points
6 years ago
Well one would have to admit, it is very very easy to be a critic. But how many of the critics are perfect, never made a mistake and are an expert at running a clandestine dark web market? Oh well yes, its easy to have BIG MOUTH when someone else is putting their ass on the line of going to jail. Wall Street did a great deal of good. They were a market that made a great number of vendors a great deal of money. Plus helped people get safe access to the thing they wished to have.

Is it really so wrong, not to hate? Not to criticize, and have compassion for three people who perhaps did make a difference in people's lives.?

I'm sorry, but I just wish not to hate, but to look for positive things in people, places and events. After all, we have enough people that like to hate and criticize, perhaps I just choose to be different.

I do thank you for your feedback, and appreciate it.
/u/JACKJACK
1 points
6 years ago
same rookie mistake AB owner made.EMAIL that was linked to his gaming company.