Updated! I asked Energy Control why the total didn't add up to 100%...here is there response:
"In the quantitative analysis we show the percentage of substances, either psychoactive or adulterants that may be harmful. The remaining percentage are usually harmless substances for the nervous system, such as sucrose, lactose, etc. Which are not shown because they are irrelevant for our service of harm reduction."
Hello there,
I can confirm that the result is 78%. We give the results of MDMA in base form, but the samples that we receive are always in salt form (HCL). That means that our max result is 84%, but we have more or less a -+5% margin of error. Also if there are some substances that are not psycoactive or there are harmless, we omit them in the result
Hey, thanks for reaching out to explain this. Sorry I'm a bit confused, so is what /u/Sunshine9 said below true?
"However, if the 78% purity refers to the psychoactive MDMA only, than our 100mg sample should contain 16mg of HCl salt, 78mg of psychoactive MDMA and 6mg are other substances. So this means our MDMA*HCl (our sample) is 92,857% pure."
So if you reported as MDMA HCL % it would be 92.857% pure?
They have....kinda. EC has given a result but hasn't yet provided the report as promised (which is what the mods need for verification). I'm working with them for a solution, as well as hounding EC.
Can you share whatever results they've provided, even without the actual report? Hopefully you sent in for quantitative?
Energy Control's normal results site is not working for me, I emailed and they sent me this which has worked for me the past few days: https://analisis2.energycontrol.org/
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Does the purity (78%) refers to how much percentage of MDMA*HCl is in the sample or percentage of psychoactive compound (MDMA only) ?
Please correct me if im wrong :
Pure molly powder (MDMA*HCl) can contain only 84% of psychoactive MDMA and remaining 16% is HCl salt (explained in this post: /post/2d76e836e4268474c16c ).
Now imagine I have 100mg sample of GG mdma. If the 78% purity refers to the purity of MDMA*HCl, this means that 16mg of the sample is HCl salt, and remaining 84mg MDMA is 78% pure, so that means we have 65,52mg of psychoactive MDMA, and 18,48mg are other substances.
However, if the 78% purity refers to the psychoactive MDMA only, than our 100mg sample should contain 16mg of HCl salt, 78mg of psychoactive MDMA and 6mg are other substances. So this means our MDMA*HCl (our sample) is 92,857% pure.
Well, I hope my math was righ. Idk why I even bothered with this lol. Im about to order this anyway and I have people that are fimiliar with acetone wash process, but I was just wondering what purity is this MDMA.
Found this in the post /u/Sunshine9 posted in one of the links in the post.
Energy Control of Spain, on the other hand, answered that they use MDMA HCl as their mass standard. They answered the questions clearly:
1) Our results directly provide the result of the salt of the substance, as
we’re using a salt as a reference standard. This means that the purity of a
sample with only MDMA HCl could be 100%.
2) Therefore, a tablet with 100mg of MDMA. HCl would be reported as 100mg
of MDMA.
Idk if this has changed since the linked page was last updated in 2017.
Thanks, I think that this would be accurate even if its from 2017. Why would they change it.
So if I understand it correctly it means that we have 65,52mg of psychoactive MDMA in 100mg sample which is 78% pure.
"In the quantitative analysis we show the percentage of substances, either psychoactive or adulterants that may be harmful. The remaining percentage are usually harmless substances for the nervous system, such as sucrose, lactose, etc. Which are not shown because they are irrelevant for our service of harm reduction."
This (pinned in /d/MDMA) has a lot of information: /post/2d76e836e4268474c16c