Hall of Shame: More scammers banned. Venspyrou01. And an explanation of the tracking number scam. : DarkMatterMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

Wow, simple but effective scam. Thank you for the warning to all!

> This vendor actually runs a pretty good scam

> nothing arrives

> the vendor is sending an empty box or letter with tracking to a random address

Yeah that is totally brilliant and never heard of that before. Horrible to think that vendors give out fake tracking to a random address nonetheless nowadays.

Thanks for the wall of text I trust you now

Nothing is foolproof however if the buyer is having a product shipped to an address that has informed delivery and he saves his pgp message to the vendor with shipping info he could share screenshots of his daily informed delivery showing the dates of potential shipping to match zero packages expected on informed delivery.

It would be an opsec decision for the buyer if the pack was worth sharing his info with dnm market staff and the buyer would hopefully not have other packs heading his way at the same time which could leave room for that being the order.

It's basically FTID.

There is no way to prevent it, simply because of the big 4s (UPS, USPS, FedEx, DHL) privacy policy.
They don't verify the address given on file.

I have seen that ups does sometimes give you little hints though. If you call and say your package never arrived, you can give them the tracking and they ask you to confirm the name and address it was supposed to be sent too. If it's not right, they will say they can't verify that information.

Hey guys, great to see you care about naming and shaming scammers! It's the best you can do.

Tracking numbers are just a false sense of security and more problems for buyers and vendors (in EU anyway). What if the vendor ships placebo product with tracking number to the buyer? Or just a bunch of junk that is too expensive to throw away in the trash...

In the end this always ends up going with your instincts, building trust and reputation. When in doubt don't order or as a vendor refuse the order. The marketplace isn't there to watch you open your letter or package and test it with the buyer.

wow! good information!

Its not a hard scam to beat. All you have to do is call the post office and ask for the GPS coordinates for the tracking number you have. They will tell you the gps coordinates of where that package was last scanned. The last scan the Postman does is always at your front door. Then look up those GPS coordinates and it will show you where on the map it was scanned. If it wasnt scanned at your address. Then the Mods need to dispute this in your favor. And ban the vendor asap.

Before the end of Augest I had been going thru /u/iflipdaily for 5 months and everything going smoothly.... he had great reviews, always was good with communicationj, great product for a great price. Well on the 28th of augest i was supposed to recieve my normal order except this time the man literally made a label, took it to the self service kiosk so it got scanned as item has been recieved but then nothing ever left that office. So he just scanned a package and never sent anything. Never gonna see that 1200 again

That vendor did this to me when I first opened my account with Nexus M. He shipped using fedx and gave me the tracking number. I guess he thought I would have been an easy target being I had a new account with no history. But unfortunately for that wasn't the case. He provided me with tracking number next day, I immediately cheched it & looked for anything that didn't look right. I immediately noticed that it had the wrong shipping details. Didn't want to rush to any conclusions yet until I had more information about what the issue was. When I checked the tracking & took note of the address. Then searched the address to find out who owned the home including the location & phone numbers. I didn't want to call fedx until I had all my info together. I used a Information data service after I pulled from the clear net. I didn't inform the vendor yet, didn't want him doing anything that would give him the edge. I call fedex and acted like I was the homeowner. After calling I found out the package was in the wife's name and that if required a signature. I redirect the package to the local Walgreens by me. The address he used is 10 minutes for me. This whole time I was keeping recording of everything & anything that would back me incase his intentions were on scamming me. I believe my order was almost 600$ & couldn't take that loss. I didn't messaged the vendor until I was at the Walgreens & my pack landed. I sent multiple messages now about the wrong address and that he put had put it in someone else's name. He tried to I don't know honestly I guess he was trying to fix the situation but it was over he didn't have a hand to play. I extended the timer and I opened a dispute. Fucking scumbag had the nerve to offer 60 × 30 partial refund. Obviously I refused. After about 20min I received a full refund. /u/quasar1 Dark Matter Staff is right keep record of everything. All I can say is every situation will be different everytime but you definitely can give yourself the upper hand. Just stay on top of every transaction and look for any discrepancies. Keep record of all communication. You can also add a mod pgp key to all the messages I know someone's going to scream OPS but if their on you like that you're fucked anyway.
Hope this help someone.
/u/venspyrou Nexus Market Scammer

The thing with him sending something empty to a random address with tracking number I thought wouldn't work for a scammer. I thought 1) tracking number showed info where pack started and what date, the delivery route it took to get to the local postal location for final delivery, them checkout time to go be delivered, and finally when it was delivered but I could of sworn it gave the address. Like package reached 21 forest st, delivery destination at 10:03am. Or you could at least see the start and finish info. so him using a random address for it to go to wouldn't that be a red flag? Then I thought the only way a scammer could kind of get that to work is use address close to the one provided by buyer or use real estate site or google earth to find empty house close to buyer address that would make perfect sense the buyer used this info for the package delivery. Okay so after this happens and to most vendors this is when I guess they write in details: Do not use an abandoned address or other address besides yours for package delivery because any issue that arises; package never came; package is being stated as empty; etc... is now invalid. Or even using a fake name and the pack landing somewhere else that all falls on buyer. if you make sure to use all your own real info so there is no question of something outside influence happening my last question is regarding if they send a pack to correct address but its empty. or maybe they even make a brick out of sugar and has correct weight. what is the correct procedure to protect yourself when you order a decent size pack and it comes to assure you have whatever the mods will need for you to win? like obviously everyone is going to be like your bugging if you do this but dead ass wouldnt it be smart to have even some small POS digital video recorder/camera start it with the pack in clear open space, capture all details on pack. then never have it stop or pause recording and cut the pack open. again its still continous recording and you take whatever out the pack. if you ordered 500 pills and its only 50 that will be seen right away and boom count on spot. or if its a wrong order than yours get contents that are in it compared to what your order was. and im pretty sure like if you getting a key the postage will evither have right there on it or be able to look it up the net weight that was part of factoring the price.. so the postage shows net weight 500g but you ordered a brick boom right there suspicious. or if the mods receiving tickets about this the mods should come together with a game plan. make an account and seem like a perfect victim for the accused scammer. do the initial order everyone he scams does. and then boom give him a lick he cant pass up scamming. That you have to send it to abandoned house down street youll pay air shipping cost, and youll even except the auto finalize to be 2 days instead of 5. but really the mods have complete control of everything. make it look like order was funded. the " abanadoned house addy" is really like an airbnb or some shit for two days. and have the whole process locked in and the end of the scam pack showing up empty or go to address he used random close to "buyer" one since you know its air express and wait for that empty pack to get there. and his ass is done red handed. immediate account deletion and funds gone. or wait until he has funds coming to reimburse all the victims. I wish I was a mod man i know its alot of work keeping shit up and running, opsec, preventing constant attacks, but shit thats literally your job. seeing scammers like this to get played crazy with a plan from the mods would boost community moral so high and also dissuade others.