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Has anyone seen AmazonPrime? : Opiates | Torhoo darknet markets

Hey guys,

I was watching AzPrime's profile on abacus before this all started. He said he was planning to re-up and list more quantity toward the end of the week. His last login was Jun 26 and as of the 29th when I checked, he still hadn't logged in. Has anyone seen him around at all?

I don't have anything owed or in escrow or anything, just concerned as he said he lost $45-50k on archetyp and I'm guessing that makes him a big time vendor/target. Would be good to hear he's ok

/u/The_Mad_Hatter

1 points

2 weeks ago

Yeah I've been wondering too. Great vendor. THere are 3 I order from and AP is the fastest. I know he got nicked bad (money wise) on ARche. Its actually good he was in vacation mode when abacus went out. That's a fucking blow to every vendor. Its actually kind of normal behavior for AP. he was complettely out. Not the first time. And sometimes he'd say he'd be back by a certain time and it'll be a week or two later. So I don't wouldn't assume anything abd happened to him like a bust (which I think you are asking about). He'd have no reason to log in prob b/c he had no money on the market. On arche, he'd be gone for week or so when he was out. Prob longer. I didn't watch all the time. But he had a limited supply, a voracious public appetite for his product, so he would go through it fast.

I do wonder if he will return to vending. I could see where a vendor would see the current scene as too fucked and a losing prop. He honestly wouldn't be a bigger target than some of the other opiate vendors. I think we underestimate how much money these vendors have locked into markets for 5-7 days while escrow clears. DH shows order volume of vendors (opened orders) and seeing the magnitude of daily orders of some of the other pill vendors its amazing how much these guys have locked up. I think a vendor like AP may get hit way harder by an exit by some of the others. But fuck, such a trust worthy guy. I sure hope he returns in some fashion, even in a private store b/c fuck these markets.

/u/workerbee 📢

1 points

2 weeks ago

You're probably right about underestimating. No matter how big someone is, a $45-50k hit is a big loss. His Abacus profile did say he might stop being a vendor but then he had some more and sold out asap. Hopefully he pulled all his funds and is safe somewhere. I was FE'ing everything on Abacus after Arch went down (with trusted vendors of course). I feel for them taking the big risk and the big loss. I know it's part of the game but sheesh, it's been a rough month or two. I hope to see him return, even in a private capacity would be fine. Whether direct or a private onion, I'm still interested in checking out his shopping speed. His comms are excellent. His CS is excellent. His prices are good. Hopefully we see him again soon

/u/azprime

1 points

1 week ago

I do appreciate the kind words and you are right about the amount of money that gets hung up in escrow. I had just moved to FE on Abacus, but even there I would have $15-$20k that would still be waiting for withdrawals that sometimes took 2-3 days. I'm not sure the best solution but with BTC at all time highs and the LE pressure that must exist after the Archetyp seizure, I am VERY wary of all markets as the motivation for them to exit has never been greater. Couple that with markets like DrugHub refusing to waive vendor bond for a vendor that has over 5000 transactions and all 5 star reviews, it makes me think they are harvesting as many vendors as possible before doing an exit of their own.

We had a good run for a while with markets relatively stable, but rn I am just dealing with a few trusted customers until I can figure out the best path forward.

Cheers!

AP

/u/The_Mad_Hatter

1 points

1 week ago

Yeah man, that shit hits hard but you've always been such a stand up vendor. Hate when any of us gets fucked over by LE or scamming markets. I had wondered why Abacus would take so long to withdraw but then HB had mentioned that they had their site hack a few years ago and funds stolen. So I'm guessing that they were being extra cautious and making sure the numbers matched up on withdrawals. But its kind of bullshit b/c you shouldn't hvae to wait more than a few hours to get your funds. 2-3 days is FOREVER when you're talking about releasing funds to you. For you, 2-3 days is probably close the turn around time for an order. So Abacus would essentially always have you many many days behind when they are working.

I don't like the market choices right now. They all feel a bit sketchy. They don't feel as professional as some of the other markets. LOL but I do remember back in the day Agora was one of the good market and they were clunky as fuck. And I remember they had some bad exploits at times. A market that doesn't waive vendor bonds for established vendors especially after 2 markets going down makes me nervous too. Strange. The long term smart play is waive vendor bonds for good vendors and you'll do well long term.

the pickings are slim right now. I'd just as rather bypass markets entirely and work directly with vendors tbh. I've been fucked over by markets. Not really by vendors at all. And of course with abacus I had just placed a larger than usual order a few hours before they exited. Which led to a fun time withdrawing over the holdays. Fuck that.

/u/cheshire-cat

1 points

1 week ago

I'm curious about this too. I ordered from them on Aba before it went down and it was great.

They said they were struggling with how much $ they lost on Arch sadly.

I hope they return, they were a top tier vendor!

-cat

/u/azprime

1 points

1 week ago*

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Hey Everyone, It's AZPRIME and AmazonPharmacy from Archetyp and Abacus -

Just checking in to let everyone know that we are ok and there has been no issues (other than losing $$$ with these market closures) We are as shocked as everyone else by recent events and the way Abacus went offline almost immediately after Archetyp. We lost around $50k in that mess and have spent the past 3 weeks working day and night to source new inventory, only to have Abacus go offline days after we got refilled. Until we find a new DNM home we will be willing to do Direct Deals ONLY with previous customers who have good history with us and didn't screw around with escrow release.

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/u/workerbee 📢

1 points

1 week ago

Hey, good to see you're alive. I've been browsing on DarkMatter market. Their search seems pretty great and I can almost always find a working link from daunt. 1SS is also there which helps me when one of you guys is out of stock or on vacation mode. I can't speak from the vendor perspective on how good or bad DM backend is tho

/u/azprime

1 points

1 week ago

I'll take a look. Glad I just missed Abacus with new inventory bc I was about to go escrow again there bc I couldn't imagine 2 would close back to back