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Has anyone that's ordered from Omega1/Autobot received a love letter/seized package? : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

It's been around a month and a half since they went missing and at the time there were a bunch of people saying that their packs were stuck at a distribution center and not moving, and most people assumed they'd been caught. Have any of the people expecting a package from them received anything? Or read that their pack was seized?

Also, anybody that's ordered from them in the past, have you ordered anything off a DNM since autobot's dissappearance? Has it come normally? Just curious because if they did get caught, I hope the situation isn't like pygmalion's where a full list of previous buyers is exposed.

Also, just putting it out there, there are clearnet news reports of a fentanyl trafficking ring in the city they shipped from being busted in early april. But there is no mention of cryptocurrency seized or darknet markets.

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago

I think part of the reason omega is gone is because Arche locked his account until he could prove he isnt LE at least that is what ive heard. How he would be able to prove that i don't know but if thats true he may have said fuck it. I can't speak to any of the other questions you've asked but i have ordered from him and a package of mine was stuck in the distribution center for 2 weeks before i finally saw any movement. i think it took around 3 weeks for it to arrive. No fault of Omegas.

I will say if LE intercepts fent, even just a gram there is a good chance they will perform at CD on at least some of the packages they intercept. LE can also show up at any point and do a "knock and talk" and they usually do when they suspect someone is trafficking fent. LE can show up a month or even later asking to speak with you. If LE does show up first thing ask to see a warrant or just tell them you aren't interested in talking to the police. Say something like the "i am scared of police and dont feel comfortable speaking unless an attorney is present" and shut the door. You'll know if they have a warrant because they'll detain you immediately.

/u/monkeybrainelvis

1 points

2 months ago

How's everything going for you? I read your post history so i understand your situation (LE intercepted 1-2 oz of H from Canada?). No doubt they think you're a dealer. Hopefully things calm down for you soon. I'm really sorry to hear they're bothering your family members too :(

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago

I'm doing pretty good, thanks for asking. Yeah they went scorched earth on me to be honest. I ended up moving as far out of that states reach as possible. Just getting settled in really. First order of business was setting up a new drop not associated or connected to me in anyway. Still kind of hesitant about ordering but i've taken every precaution setting up the new drop even going so far as to setup counter surveillance at least for the foreseeable future. Thankfully i never got sloppy.

That said i cannot stress OPSEC enough for anyone that see's this post.

/u/sentinel79

1 points

2 months ago

what do you mean by 'setting up the new drop'? order to another address not linked to your identity? If yes, who's gonna pick up the parcel?

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago

Nobody is picking up the parcel. It's going to a mailbox, not linked to my identity.

/u/3y3OFAdam

1 points

2 months ago

we have to remain silelent,, so unless they are kicking in doors, your gaurded by plausable deniability especially how and where my house is located i cant see my mail box from house and its on a shrp tun in wooded areas,, and ontp of that my phone got a major hack a while ago my name has shown up in shit i have nothing to do with

/u/HorkyPorky

1 points

2 months ago

Dont say "I am scared of police"

Literally all you say is that you are invoking your 5th amendment and you don't wish to speak to police without a lawyer present. Nothing else

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago*

Yeah you can say that but automatically invoking the 5th when you aren't under arrest or being detained makes you look guilty in the eyes of a jury. The average person is dumb and just talks to police willy nilly and juries tend to believe "if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't have a problem speaking to the police".

Giving LE some excuse as to why you refuse to speak with them that people can relate to in as few words as possible is the better option IMO however should the police press you or refuse to take no for an answer then yes you should absolutely invoke the 5th. The best option will always be to not answer the door but police are persistent. During "knock and talks" police will beat on the door and shout "police, open up" as if you are obligated to open the door, which you are not (many people are not aware of this.) If they have a warrant they will kick or ram the door open. If that happens absolutely invoke the 5th. They have enough "probable cause" to at minimum search your house.

If you don't know your constitutional rights and are not fluent in the law then yes you should invoke your 5th immediately and stay quiet but if you are able to tell them to fuck off in not so many words without incriminating yourself then that is the route i would personally go.

/u/HorkyPorky

1 points

2 months ago

I do get your points, and I could see value in not verbally invoking the 5th specifically at first, but basically I wouldn't give any excuses or anything. Invoking the 5th isn't admissible as evidence so far as I am aware because it violates the idea of the 5th, that is avoiding self incrimination.

So like, a lawyer is not allowed to say "if you have nothing to hide, why won't you talk to police". That will get them thrown out of the courtroom

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah no a good lawyer would never say something like "if you have nothing to hide, why won't you talk to police" what i meant was, you are tried by a jury of your peers. Meaning the jury is made up of average people from the county in which you are charged or arrested. Most law abiding citizens tend to speak to police willy nilly and are of the mindset of "if you have nothing to hide, why wouldn't you speak to the police".

LE will present a grand jury with evidence from their investigation which will include highlights. If someone automatically invokes the 5th you can guarantee the DA will make sure the grand jury see's that. Even though it's you're right to do so, it makes you look suspect in the eyes of the grand jury (your peers). Keep in mind the burden of proof for the state is much lower when seeking an indictments. So if you can give a good reason as to why you refuse to speak with them in as few words as possible that society might agree with, that is the better way to go IMO. That's all i was saying.

But again, most people are not able to navigate speaking with police without incriminating themselves so it's recommended that group of people automatically invoke the 5th.

/u/HorkyPorky

1 points

2 months ago

I see your argument in practical sense, for jury to have some explanation why you don't want to talk, but I feel its just too risky. Invoking the 5th isn't any different to a commoner than saying " I am busy i don't wanna talk to you". Maybe some way to go about it but I am unsure

/u/Tre

1 points

2 months ago

I just know how DA's operate and they'll use invoking the 5th to their advantage in a way that is very convincing to the jury. "I am busy and don't have time to talk" would will suffice.

You want to make the cops look aggressive or as if they are harassing you before you invoke the 5th IF at all possible.

But you're right police can twist your words, lie to you, manipulate their questions and your answers, etc so it is very high stress situation with a lot of risk.

/u/zxcasdqwe123 📢

1 points

2 months ago

Archetyp locks vendor accounts after 3 days of inactivity, and "proving they're no LE" is just something involving their pgp keys I think. Also, good to hear that you got your package. Have you ordered anything since, or are you considering that address burnt for now?

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/u/Scottyvegas99

1 points

2 months ago

omega dissapeared off abacus too not just archetyp so it cant be anything about his account being locked

/u/3y3OFAdam

1 points

2 months ago*

sound to me like to vendor was careless with packaging...
1, glove up like a dr some time i waer two pairs
2> product deposited in bag on and cut shoter and smaller than bag 2 (whl bag one will have wiggle rorom as not to smuh you mush or buds) you must wipe all bags down with alchoal wipes or i even know some ppl who dip the im bleech sealed up cut the tine seal and reuse,,weeed should ba vac sealed for a layer for each day for possible accountable permiation,,, wrap that in some gift wrap put that in a breeier layer (carbon paper mylar foil lined bags and thenthey go in aregler mail parchel with notbook paper i buy blocks of so its gonna feel like papaer

good returns refrence your loacal sex offender registry,i peroonally aim for the one whove hurt small children like under five and raped them, fucking chomos im happy to cause them problems in life..

i do see th post is old but i think its ben about a year since they shit down so unless they say siezed just call usps file a missg package report if they ask YOUR name just say im callinf for a boss set a burner number up for 24 hrs incase they calll back wich doesnt happen typically all missing package cliams ive filed they show up the ext day or close to

pills jjust spread them at an even flat rate in my experience the softer they are and the esier they break the shittyer they are

but ya sperad the to a thin layer try not to let to many lay acroos each like X or t to many of these ive seen make a domino effect and u get more broke than straight pills

also wlays use some small mark that not toticable on all opening cprners i tell ppl to look for cuz u wont se them unless i point it out and if you get a box from me with out the dots do not except it

if ya use tape alway identically place in same place for minimal amount of use

iver taping is one thing in there criteria for suspishus oacks

but i do believe incog i herd 6 months ago thye still were up but wfater twhat that litte prick did .....i wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire...

sorry if its a bit of subject poorpley packed ackages (idk honestly it pretty hars to get stopped in a us to us destination...i always throw me ppl quartz stones so they no its me and when they weih my package they wont see 1 garm
a 3.5.7g, etcalways offthrow the weight to how we way drugs the dea does infrm them to pay attetion to these things

sorry ive just stumbled onto this

/u/3y3OFAdam

1 points

2 months ago

excuse my horrrible typing , medical condition in my arms hands cant move as fast as i think...

/u/b0b4f3ttyw4p

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah I've ordered since and things came like normal, but my drop isn't my own home. If it was your home address i wouldn't recommend trying again until there's some kind of update

/u/zxcasdqwe123 📢

1 points

2 months ago

Thanks for answering, that's good to hear. Was your order one of the last ones that got held up at a DC? I don't buy nearly enough to have a drop address, but my last order was close to a year ago. How long until it's safe enough to order do you think?

/u/b0b4f3ttyw4p

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah my last never showed up. And honestly man I don't have a solid answer on how long to wait.If it's actually true that packages got intercepted or he got busted, those addresses are going to be watched for future packages. I don't know if it's ever really a Time to feel safe if something like that happens, and that's just my point of view. I would look into finding a drop somehow, and there's always the option of getting a PO box. Though the world seems to be divided on the idea here, some say it's not safe at all, others that have used them have said they work great. Had a really good friend that used one consistently for 5 years never got caught. Never had any issues, you always have plausible deniability when a package comes to you. Anytime they want you to sign for a package suddenly all you have to do is say I don't know what that package is I didn't order it I'm not signing for anything that I didn't order. I don't see how that changes anything with a post office box being where you get your stuff. It's not like there's drug sniffing dogs in the back of every post office just waiting to sniff the packages. It's one of those things that it right now I would say is definitely safer than using the existing address that possibly is burnt now because of what happened. You don't necessarily have to go with the post office, there are independent places like PO box stores that aren't the post office, some people think these are safer since they're not government buildings. Really just comes down to your level of comfort. Companies like FedEx and UPS offer this service in some areas, they're just some independent people that open stores for this reason. If the idea of the post office scares you then look into one of the independent stores, again anytime a package is being scrutinized the post office will ask you to sign for it or do something where you're accepting the fact that you ordered that package. As long as you never sign for a package like that you have the possible deniability that you didn't know it was there. I mean hell an angry ex could send drugs from the dark web to your house on purpose trying to get you in trouble for example.

/u/zxcasdqwe123 📢

1 points

2 months ago

Thanks for the extended reply. And just to clarify, I didn't have a pack go missing, I've only ever ordered once from autobot and it was a year ago.

If my address turns out to be burnt, and I set up a PO box with my real name, would that not also be burnt? Would it help that my name is quite generic (lots of people in the US probably have it)? Would I be better off setting it up in a different area from where my address was? Thanks for all the info.

/u/b0b4f3ttyw4p

2 points

2 months ago

You shouldn't have anything to worry about if it's been that long since you ordered from him. I know that Omega1/Autobot is very experience vendor, very good with his opsec and stealth, so I have a strong belief that he would not have kept information such as clients addresses and such. So since you weren't one of the ones who had a package not show up in this recent debacle I believe that you really don't have anything to worry about. As far as the PO box goes, I wouldn't recommend if you ever did get a package intercepted or receive a love letter from USPS to immediately go get a PO box. It may be more intelligent for someone in this case to go through one of the other options like I was saying of a fedex/ups PO box or one of the small Mom and pop's places. As far as law enforcement trying to catch someone if they were to have a pack intercepted, it's plausible that they would watch for that person to open a PO box but I really feel like in this situation it would be a matter of the quantity you ordered. If your orange is personal I don't see them really worrying that much but trying to scan every single PO box to see if you've got one, and at the intercepted a package of yours and it had 5 oz of heroin, 4 oz of meth, 2 lb of weed, 100 hits LSD, you know something where they can tell that it was for resale then that's a different story. But as I said in your situation particularly since you didn't order recently in the budget that didn't show up, I don't feel like you really have anything to worry about.