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Honeytrap? Alphabay and Empire market link? Feds siezed Alpha bay.... : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

Alphabay and Empire link? Feds siezed Alpha bay and ran it as a honey trap for months... along with Hansa and other markets.. How comes the UI is identical on Empire...?

They (LE) are lazy and would just revamp the alphabay site and use it as a template for another site, hey presto you have a new marketplace.

Its quite clear with everything thats going on that this is another police honey trap market.

/u/blkhat

3 points

6 years ago

I believe the reason Empire devs created this market under a similar (but not exact) template is because of the amount of popularity that market had. It makes sense to make a copy cat market as a marketing strategy to attract more customers that miss and are already familiar to the Alpha Bay Marketplace .

For the honey pot you are talking about, with out any evidence to back up your statement, this is just a meaningless opinion that no one care for. For all we know every market up at the moment is a honey pot lol.

/u/DanknationLotto Dicks for Days

2 points

6 years ago

Or some smart dev took the working parts from a good market, maybe even a dev from alphabay, and with their knowledge of pyschology they used a similar if not exact color scheme to lean people into a sense of security and something they knew. Im not trusting but there is no reason to believe they are LEO and as long as you use vendors PGPs who gives a shit if its LEO, thay can't decrypt without that vendors private key. just verify new keys vs old keys.

/u/GUNSDONTSHOOTPEOPLE

1 points

6 years ago

damn gotta say you're probably right there, they'd take the template and revamp it and this is exacctlyyyy the same as alpha bay

well i'll be damned

/u/canadianflavor

1 points

6 years ago

there is no proof to back up your saying, however I do agree. I never liked AB and I don't like Empire. Theres enough red flags from the 2 times I logged in to know im going to stay away from it.

/u/Babyback99

1 points

6 years ago

Lets hope that they just copied alphabays one and its not the same exact one, got to admit its suspect to say the least

/u/BrasiLSD

1 points

6 years ago

I noticed this as well, even the logo is similar.

/u/kenaustinardonel

1 points

6 years ago

except for the fact that both logos were the same shade of alpha bay orange, they aren't similar at all. The ABM logo was an orange lower case with a light blue halo. The empire market logo is an orange crown.

/u/BrasiLSD

1 points

6 years ago

Both are orange.

/u/EmpBomb

1 points

6 years ago

Hey fellas, how about this idea to catch DNMs users: let's use Alphabay UI with different name, no one will suspect anything, im tellin' ya!

- Wow Carl very good idea, here, have a promotion. **awkward silence**

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

Anyone can copy a website using httrack or a similar tool, a bunch of noob here.

/u/Animal

2 points

6 years ago*

Actually, httrack only scrapes the front end (HTML/CSS etc), and doesn't/can't scrape the inner core code (php/sql etc) that makes it all work.

It's impossible for an outsider to just scrape the code of a website and be off with a fully functioning clone site. Something is definitely up here.

httrack would just scrape all the public side of the site, and pretty much give you a static HTML mirror copy. But nothing that you could continue to run a market on - it would have no back-end.

/u/[deleted]

2 points

6 years ago

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/u/Animal

2 points

6 years ago

hmm, must not be the same then. When you're developing a website it's hard not to look at the competition and not take things here and there - and lets face it, these guys are no designers lol

The realistic options are:
They coded the design to be similar intentionally, They stole the front end code which also takes the design, or, The sites are in fact linked in someway - which would indeed be concerning.

/u/syncsanity

1 points

6 years ago

I think they purposely copied the theme. Due to despite Alpha Bay getting seized. It was the biggest market of its time. So I imagine who ever created it had its legacy in their heart / eyes. Not the fact it was seized ect ect.

probably similar to SR2 after Sr1

/u/Animal

1 points

6 years ago

More than likely the case.

/u/Federal

1 points

6 years ago

of course they copied the theme, not exactly top secret

/u/ssj408

1 points

6 years ago

They can't run a marketplace like that. With every market there is death. Yea people die over this shit on the internet.

/u/BigFatCat

1 points

6 years ago

Meh as long as you encrypt youre fine anyways

/u/Animal

1 points

6 years ago*

Not if the market admin switched out all the vendor public keys with ones they own. Then all orders/addresses coming in from that point would be viewable (if not using a previously saved key). A route LE would very obviously take.

This is something everyone should be aware of...

/u/andyandyandy

1 points

6 years ago

What did i just read.

/u/throwaway4000

1 points

6 years ago

Lol, encrypt messages yourself and youre safe as a buyer. Honeytrap or not.
Surely if they were going to build a honeytrap market theyd make it less obvious than AlphaBay with a different name lol

/u/Animal

1 points

6 years ago*

Really?? If the market admin switched out all the vendor public keys with ones they own. Then all orders/addresses coming in from that point would be viewable (if not using a previously saved key). This is the first thing LE would do.

/u/andyandyandy

1 points

6 years ago

You shouldn't being communicating with anyone if you haven't or can't verify their key. Damn! Never ceases to amaze me how dumb some people are.

/u/Animal

1 points

6 years ago

Definitely... Unfortunately 80% of DNM users don't have a clue what they are doing, and 10% are just lazy. You think most "average" users actually check these things? They don't.

/u/andyandyandy

1 points

6 years ago

More fool them, the low hanging fruits will be the first to be taken down.

/u/Animal

1 points

6 years ago

Sad, but true.

/u/BulkMushroomMan

1 points

6 years ago

Lets be real here though, as long as you know what your doing, and manually encrypt your messages, which is a MUST, you should be fine. Good OPSEC too. Also watch out for those dust attacks where they send small amounts of bitcoin and they can apparently trace it through the block chain. So does it really matter?

/u/Genghis_the_xanlord

1 points

6 years ago

Kinda odd how they got the UI of AB.

/u/SinolaCartell

1 points

6 years ago

to copy from fame markets is just a common marketing strategy

/u/throwsmeways

1 points

6 years ago

wasnt the whole source code leaked or sold?