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If your looking to save on Fee's with no kyc direct XMR I can help : Test4Pay | Torhoo darknet markets

Hey guys, I've received some messages regarding my comments that I've made on various posts about no KYC direct purchase XMR. If anybody is interested, I am happy to help. The only proviso being is that you have more than six pages of person comments and or I am somewhat familiar with you. I'm happy to put you into direct contacts with the person whom I directly purchased my XMR off and have done for two years. They charge a flat fee of 10% and exchange directly to XMR to whatever wallet you would like. They have a few different methods for payment depending on what they currently have available.

I trust this person fully and am willing to stake my reputation on them 100%. They do operate only by referral and I've never had a problem with them in the slightest. If you are interested, please DM me, but please do not be offended if I refuse to introduce you to them as I have to look out for bad actors that are present on this platform. As much as you worry about being scammed, I have to also look out for them being scammed with my reputation with them, also resting on whom I introduce them to.

I figure this could possibly help some of you. Although some of you may have better methods And if so, I would love to hear them.

I also have a blitz on one specific product coming out within the next 100 hours. I am just collating the notes for it now.

Stay safe
BD
/u/AusEmpire14
1 points
5 months ago
Hey mate, could you please explain what KYC is exactly and why do some recommend and some do not? Also does this service include BTC -> XMR Swap?
/u/economicallyviable
1 points
5 months ago
That's the kind of thing you should know if you've been there for 2 months already... KYC stands for "Know Your Customer", and refers to any request of personal information to grant access to a service, usually in the context of finance related services. It is generally not recommended to use a service that requests KYC whenever you're up to something illegal. But when it comes to purchasing cryptocurrencies, sometimes there's no non-KYC option available, or there is but with significantly higher fees (from what I could gather, currently no direct experience with either). So if you purchased some non-anonymous cryptocurrency (pretty much anything except Monero -- there seems to be a few others but currently negligible) through a KYC exchange, and are you still eager to do something quite illegal with it, you need to obfuscate the trail, and normally, a single swap to Monero (using a non-KYC service) is all it takes (unless perhaps if you're already under investigation and do something foolish like making regular purchases of $555 worth of LTC then right afterwards swapping to $555 worth of XMR and purchasing $555 worth of drugs).

That page lists many "non-KYC" services, sorted by type and ranked by score:
kycnot.me

As for the particular service advertised here, I couldn't say if it's legit, the fee seems high but perhaps that's to be expected for a non-KYC service, I don't know what are considered average fees on RetoSwap, currently the most recommended option among so-called "peer-to-peer" exchanges. Likewise, I couldn't say if there's any rationale about relying on a specific provider (who may or may not be trustworthy) operating "only by referral" when RetoSwap (presumably -- haven't used it yet) lists various users from various countries, with a score based on past transactions, and protects transactions through an escrow system.
I've approved your comment as you have some good points. I don't expect trust, but it's the currency on which I trade.

BD
/u/economicallyviable
2 points
5 months ago
I hadn't noticed that you were a moderator here. Obviously that gives you a bump in terms of trustworthiness, but even that shouldn't mean that one can be blindly trusted, as it's been reminded recently by /u/Hourglass.
/post/ef768b3deff4952e310a

Since you acknowledge that I made good points, could you elaborate on why / when the kind of service you advertise could be preferred over something like RetoSwap for instance? And what are the average fees on RetoSwap, for reference? Does that person accept escrow?
As I see it (again, with currently very little practical experience), it may make sense for a seasoned user moving large amounts regularly, but I wouldn't recommend this to a newbie and/or for smaller amounts (although I may be wrong on that).
/u/Hourglass P
1 points
5 months ago
Never trust anyone here!!!!
That's the thing, even if he's a mod, market admin, dread staff.... Whatever, we're no one to be trusted, we're in the darknet!
Mate I'm simply offering to refer people to the guy I buy my crypto off. I run a charitable service pertaining to harm reduction that costs me around 20k per year. I send the bloke cash via registered post and I get my XMR without fucking around. I've dedicated countless hours, fiat and crypto, jeopardized my freedom and safety and downsized my income purely to educate, analyse substances and support those who need it. Scamming or profiting is not on my agenda. Everyone from the average aussie poster to the creator of this site are well aware of my intentions. This is the last comment in which I will defend myself on this issue as it's superfluous.

Stay safe
Be kind

BD
/u/AusEmpire14
1 points
5 months ago
Thank you for such a detailed response, sometimes i need to purchase btc to pay for stuff , we do get someone else to purchase the bitcoin then send it to our dead wallet , then we send it to receiver , should we first swap it to xmr then back to btc before sending it off to receiver or should we use a btc mixer? if so which service do you recommend? also would it really matter if we use a btc mixer since we get it sent to a dead wallet that has no link backs to any owners of that wallet?
/u/economicallyviable
1 points
5 months ago*
Again I have very little practical experience with any of this so take it with a proverbial grain of salt (perhaps someone seasoned will chime in to confirm, perhaps not), but if the goal is to purchase illegal stuff on a Dark Net market, then yes, since Bitcoin is traceable (so it could still be traced to whoever made the initial purchase on a "KYC" exchange), you need to convert it to Monero (as for the initial purchase, currently Litecoin is generally recommended over Bitcoin because it presumably has lower fees, Ethereum would also be a better choice because the validation process is considerably less energy intensive than Bitcoin or even Litecoin, making it a "green" cryptocurrency).

I don't know anything about Bitcoin mixers, but from what I could gather it's an outdated practice, since converting to Monero is much more efficient when it comes to obfuscating the trail.

By now all serious Dark Net vendors should accept Monero, so swapping back to BTC (or LTC / ETH) should not be necessary. A Dark Net vendor accepting credit cards would be damn foolish, so it's probably not a Dark Net vendor. If the stuff in question is legal, then there should be nothing to worry about, and all those extra conversions are overkill. Unless it's a situation where you are purchasing something legal (like proxies, VPN...) to do something illegal, in which case, yes, you need to convert to Monero then back to Bitcoin if that's the only cryptocurrency they accept, or there's the possibility of purchasing a pre-paid card that can be paid directly in Monero, then using that card to pay the stuff in question. Someone recommended me this: trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/ -- but again, no experience with that yet, couldn't say if this would be suitable for your purposes.

Not sure what you call a "dead wallet", perhaps you mean "cold wallet"? (One that is not connected to an exchange.)
/u/AusEmpire14
1 points
5 months ago
Also Big Side Note : Receiver only accepts btc or credit card so we can only use btc.
/u/totallyanonymousperson
1 points
4 months ago
I will give it a go. Happy to send some xmr to support the project whenI can get my hands on some.

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/u/totallyanonymousperson
1 points
4 months ago
I see that I didn't read the post well enough. What exactly do you mean by six pages of person comments?