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Unfortunately, I can 100% confirm the exit scam now.

It is well known that Incognito purchased DarkNetLive and previously I have mentioned to Pharoah that if and when he decides to shut down, it would be great if he could hand over the domain in the process to ensure it isn't used maliciously. I've been talking to him back and fourth the past few hours and got to the point where I told him a warning is going live, to which his response was to try and bribe me to take Dread down or wipe all posts regarding Incognito, in return he will hand over DNL. Big mistake, he of all people should know I can't be bought and I won't hesitate to confirm the exit.

https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlJHRnlhMFJ2ZEVaaGFXdz0=# https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlZHOXlSRzkwVkdGNGFRPT0=#

It would have been good for everyone if DNL could have been passed into good hands and my warning here will not make any difference to funds already lost to Incognito, but hopefully this will be enough now to try and ensure users stay clear and avoid losing more.

Easy trade, darknetlive.com for one week of dread downtime or clean dread. I got no use for the domain anyway.


Yeah, we're done here. Please try to share warnings wherever possible. I'm going to get the warning on Daunt as soon as I can.
/u/white_thrash
42 points
1 year ago
Hats off to you. Integrity is more than a hardcore band. Luckily
/u/Amer1canSpirit-PR
9 points
1 year ago
Hopefully nobody got fucked over too badly.
Thanks for being honorable /u/hugbunter
/u/jimbone12
1 points
1 year ago
glad to see your thriving without incognito bro, hope it didn't hurt you too bad.
/u/Kilobaby
1 points
1 year ago
yupyyy
/u/big_ass_hoe6
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/Laundry4930
8 points
1 year ago
Amen- on behalf of the Dread community, we thank you /u/hugbunter for your relentless dedication to upholding the integrity and interest of our fellow members.
/u/grekiuterminator
1 points
1 year ago
haha:)
/u/Sachs
20 points
1 year ago
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/u/kherrera
7 points
1 year ago
it's all so tiresome, you try to do a DD out of respect for vendors so they don't have to deal with these hits, and then you get dishonest people like /u/dutchfinest that selectively scam on big orders.

unfortunately, shitty people seem to be the norm rather than the exception.
/u/Sachs
5 points
1 year ago
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/u/kherrera
7 points
1 year ago
It looks as if you're in fraud subdreads. I hope that it's just defrauding banks/credit card companies and not actual people- if so, who are you to complain about anything?
/u/waitwtf13
4 points
1 year ago
guy's yelling at his own shadow
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1 year ago
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/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
-2 points
1 year ago
this post is not an invite for you to advise the benefits of DD or discuss you being a vendor. please read the rules for clarification
/u/dondraprr
2 points
1 year ago
i got selectively scammed by dutch as well. and i agree with you, shitty people are becoming more and more normalized.
/u/MacHaron
3 points
1 year ago
Bitcoin has risen 20.000€ in one month. We have to be aware next time, no matter how "reliable" the market of the moment be.
/u/EmpBomb
8 points
1 year ago
True, Most of the exit scams happened when btc reached the roof. Greed is powerful and destructive force that can make human beings act in wrong and immoral ways it's in many humans nature smh.
/u/BKNP
2 points
1 year ago
yea . ur right bro . been having issues to login my account .
/u/Hardmington
1 points
1 year ago
Whenever BTC breaks the historic top, some market executes an exit scam.
/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
Do not use this to promote markets.
/u/Sachs
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Ja Herr Sachs, schwierige Sache
/u/RedneckVinyl
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for sharing.
/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
1 points
1 year ago
I mean, that's how it works right? It has never been a market that lasted forever mate. Only if alphabay project of a "decentralized" market were real...
/u/white_thrash
5 points
1 year ago
Asap a few months ago didn't exit scam, they warned all , buyers and vendors to withdraw all the funds with time enough for all , so there are still honest people around . I know mos t of them did it but why not point the few that didn't. If they did othets could do like them the honest and right way.
/u/irishratsonthecoke
2 points
1 year ago
we had one but no nobody used it. openbazaar i think the name was.anybody with any tech ability could fork it.it was the server costs which got then in the end
/u/boomshankar
1 points
1 year ago
whitehouse market, warned and returned the funds, tor market also let the users know and gave time for the escrow to release and withdraw (amazing markets)
/u/journeyman3
1 points
1 year ago
its kinda wild people talk about markets that didnt exit scam and nobody is mentioning the legendary agora that gracefully retired.seems most people are too new to know the og markets
/u/yorkshiregrow
1 points
1 year ago
Like..it's not sustainable at all as a business model to keep paying vendor fees and then getting ripped off. Paying multiple vendor fees to different websites just incase this happens. It's absolutely trash.
/u/TherapeuticNeedsInd
13 points
1 year ago
Ethics over money! Kudos to you for the warning. A moment of Silence for those who lost their crypto.
/u/HarryDunn P
13 points
1 year ago
You should have taken darknetlive & not hidden this thread. Fuck scammers, they deserve to get scammed.

Just noticed that sending in market messages no longer works. Was trying to notify some vendors.
What a shame. I really liked incognito.

Much Love
Be Safe
-HD
/u/NetCat361
3 points
1 year ago
Best thing i've read all day right here.
/u/simplysublime34
1 points
1 year ago
same with the messaging. i deposited before i saw my vendors announcement but the funds showed up and my vendor shipped it and told me to stay away. at least i didnt get caught up. he pgp messaged me that incognito is done and i was lucky i didnt lose my bread!!!
/u/busybees
1 points
1 year ago
Same happebed with me but im waiting on something /u/exclusivepharma was sending personally for me but need to get in touch and /u/chillparma sent my etiz but not the b707 bars to test or the white bromaz my mate likes from them.

They good though an anytime isssue in the past which is very rare they sort it, but i cant get in touch with them anywhere as no other markets showing on dark dot fail.

Im only ordering domestic from now on.

Vendor Pharmstate from slovenia got stuff to me in 4 days but I ordered 6 boxes of triazolam and got 3 boxes worth, same with the 4 bozes of pfizer abd the 5mg npam nitrazepam, 180 ksalol but 120 came.

So not selective scammer but send enough that your not going to dispute a foreign vendor over all this to get told 50/50 or something.

I love my nitraz and triazolam and they were good, so were the footballs etc but doing that is out of order even though they sebt some theb just ignored messges after it, didnt even bother disputing. I just finalized and warned people and ive noticed its happened to more people with that vendor since then.

Im sticking with uk when i find socialpharma etc and speak to the two prior i messaged until monday. With vendors saying they cant send out messages there is no point going on there going to find them.

No new market showing on dark dot fail. exclusive is on here but dont think chilllpharma or social are on here.

Theres hundreds of vendors with tons stock, they must be somewhere
/u/ilikemeee
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/busybees
2 points
1 year ago
Guessing this was some scammer, I got my usual vendors on another market just a couple had decided to stay away from them completely after years of them being on them but gave official ways to reach them. No other scammer has to reach out to me to pretend to help.

Lol I had one dude in jobs for crypto asking me if i could move exotic animals and birds of prey through courier service and was offering half money upfront lmao if i showed proof I had the driver or the van as courier myself.

I asked what ones, he said exotic and the ones that fly are birds. Never replied after I read that. sounded dodgy lol
/u/st0rm_thunder
1 points
1 year ago
will /u/superwave from incog pls tell me where to find him messaged him on arch but where is everyone going its about to be a repeat of when B bounced
/u/busybees
1 points
1 year ago
I would check for you as been trying to get on for ages pal but it is just not loading for me at all, every other market or forum working fast and its not marked as under construction but before it kept saying error no data when got so far now its saying problem finding onion site like what incognito used to keep doing. I tried daunt.cc but same link and just didnt load at all. Did get as far as the circles one time i have no idea wahat is going on an i need to check something . Im sure i hear superwave is on that new supermarket thing d/supermarket, just type it in search.

With archytype you can select by vendor and it has a big list rather than manual search but ffs no idea whats going on.

/u/newbieforever2018 do you have any idea whats going on as know your listed as a mod on their page, even tried arhtype cc thing where you add the lettters in palce and it just said no sucj onion site where as it does not usually do that.

Im probably just paranoid as I haven't saw anything hopefully if i manage to get on to check something ill let you know mate,

In the meantime type supermarket into dread you will find there, the exact link is in my [post history, bunch of known vendors with legit stuff who are stick of being done by markets.

drughub too but Im unsure who runs that and it has very similar UI to one in the past but as I said im paranoid lool your vendor may be there mate
/u/newbieforever2018 P
1 points
1 year ago
Just a temporary ddos period but after getting the cc link from the arch subdread if it does not work the first time then wait a few minutes and refresh the page to get a new link. Market is working smoothly currently.
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/u/newbieforever2018 P
1 points
1 year ago
Next month is Arch's fourth birthday. Members are rightfully jittery after all that has gone on this year but not every downtime does an exit make.
/u/dimplez_official
1 points
1 year ago
Who are you referring to?
btc price goes up, so does greed.
I'm still able to send messages, as of an hour ago, i need to let the clientele know where i'll be. the other "dimplez' on dread is a disgruntled employee that was fired.
the extortion that Incog is attempting is another absolutely ludicrous thing.
/u/anon2059820592
10 points
1 year ago
I'm going to learn to code a market that will NEVER exit scam because FUCK this shit

see yall in few years
/u/toopdoop
3 points
1 year ago
lol seriously. if i knew how i'd be making my own market. i miss WHM and dream :(
/u/anon2059820592
3 points
1 year ago
I've seen markets come and go over the years and it always ends the same, greed

These market owners make so much money without needing to exit scam, it's time someone does it right
/u/acidpirate
4 points
1 year ago
Vendors need to run their own hidden services or people need to learn how to use CLI monero multisig.
Centralized solutions will always exit scam or get busted. It's just Murphy's law, Anything that can go wrong will go wrong..
/u/SeekingKnowledge
1 points
1 year ago
Dream Market was amazing and so simply. I hate how on many markets I can´t even see the vendors rating before clicking on their listings I am pretty sure you could see the vendors ratings on Dream Market but it´s so many years ago.
/u/nobuddy
1 points
1 year ago
Totally second that. I mean, I'm just a vanilla consumer who orders small amounts of this and that for occasional use, and I'm sure that running a DNM is one heck of a job for opsec alone - and then some. But what do you actually run into when you have a platform running? I really have no idea what kind of people suddenly become "interested" in you, and I'd really dig "A day in the life of HugBunter" just to get an idea of all that's happening behind the scenery.

But I'd still be naive/idealist enough to assume that it's possible to be a proper web development nerd, code your platform, gather a few people for everyday operations, and then make it all about the platform rather than a continuous quest to become world's most butthurt anon.

I truly appreciate every and any market, vendor etc. who just retires gracefully when it's time.

WHM was a perfect example, and while MrWhite wasn't the nicest person to interact with, he definitely had integrity. That'd be something I'd aspire if I were to start my own marketplace.

As of know, it appears that Archetyp might be one of the good ones, run by nerds not wannabe gangsters. I just hope they don't let their success get over their heads.
/u/BioCanna
9 points
1 year ago
Hello Sir

I am a vendor on Incognito.
i cant send out any messages. I cant go on vacation. I cant set product quantity to zero
I cant even delete any listing.
My account has the same limitations suddenly and I was given fake txids for my withdrawals. Scam. ]=
/u/Lemonade01
2 points
1 year ago
Yep I tried to make a withdrawal and got the same fake ass shit.....
/u/yorkshiregrow
2 points
1 year ago
Literally same thing happened with me too. Lost over 1.2k which for a very small, solitary business owner is a LOT of money :(
/u/timberline850
1 points
1 year ago
what do you look for when withdrawing your escrow money? i just did it and it show my balance at 0, what do i look for? this is my second attempt at this from being exit scammed from dream market. any thing is appreciated. good luck and thank you for this post.
I look for the withdrawal to land at the withdrawal address. What are you asking me?
/u/56729687392756395739
1 points
1 year ago
not able to send msgs at all
/u/UK-Organic
9 points
1 year ago
It seems like we can still update the announcement board on our Incognito store. All vendors should go and update it to advise people not to deposit anything to the market.
Gutted about this exit, for some reason I thought Incognito would go nicely.
/u/subwaysubs
2 points
1 year ago
Yes, pleeeaaase. I almost always read the vendors announcements before ordering. I tihhnk this would help more and more people if any vendors are able to mention this EXIT SCAM! I took a loss, but even if one more person doesnt deposit on that site it thats one less loss.
/u/speedypath
9 points
1 year ago
Hope these incognito mfers get fist fucked
/u/GungaDin
9 points
1 year ago

Hey /u/HugBunter

Thanks for your utter integrity. A true legend of the game. History will look back on you with reverence.

We also had issues with a large withdrawal last week. Around $6,000 is still pending. And a fake transaction ID was sent which does not appear on the BTC blockchain. Support have been replying but fobbing us off.

Messaging system has been unable to send messages to customers nor support past couple of days.

Unable to put account in vacation mode.

Unable to set listings OOS.

All functionality to edit listing description, put accounts offline, or prevent customers from being able to order have been removed from the vendor admin panel.

We are not taking orders. We will not ship any new orders which have not been marked shipped. DO NOT ORDER!!!

/u/pharoah. I hope karma finds you well, and makes you unwell.

To our beautiful customers:

For a start, all orders marked as shipped have already been shipped. Your packs will land.

We will take the hit on the lost coins. As we always do when scum bag markets exit scam.

Not the first time and I am sure will not be the last. But we always recover and continue to spread the love to the UK!

We will keep updating on /d/CrystalCaretakers as the situation progresses.

We will still be live on Archetyp and Abacus.

We are no longer active on Bohemia for the same reasons as Incognito. We have missing withdrawals there for over $5,000.

This has been going on since last year, admins are aware of the situation. Support has still not paid us. We will not be live there until our funds are returned.

Commiserations to all affected here. I hope you all can rebuild after your losses.

Much love
Gunga
/u/yorkshiregrow
3 points
1 year ago
Hardly anyone uses Abacus which is such a shame as they've been trustworthy for a while now. Horrible what's happened to you brother., same thing to me too, just over £1.2k :( Absolutely gutting.
/u/GungaDin
3 points
1 year ago
They've never done us any wrong as of yet. We enjoy vending there and on Archetyp. Both easy and smooth in our experience.

It's always a hard pill to swallow but we will survive and we will keep spreading love.

Much Love
Gunga
/u/gibralt41r
9 points
1 year ago
I'm in shock... I don't know why but Incognito gave me "not exit scamming" vibes the whole time I used it
/u/jeremydewitt
1 points
1 year ago
bro came there from asap they deff gave me terrible vibes crypto percentages never addled right for me,, i pray hugbunter is still in talks with the asshole whos pulling the bs
/u/codeless
7 points
1 year ago
What a POS. It seemed like it was going to go this way when he commented saying a "database deadlock" was the cause of the various problems... err no.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 year ago
I thought the exact same thing. Like bruh, deadlock? Cmon
/u/codeless
4 points
1 year ago
Yeah if you're going to come up with technical reasons for something happening on a forum full of technical people then it's going to have to be something plausible. Although there wouldn't really be any plausible technical reasons for the changes in functionality that they made.
/u/strace
3 points
1 year ago
It's interesting that he used the whole stablecoin DAI addition as a ruse to buy time. It seemed a little excessive if the end goal was just to exit scam. He wasn't content with just shutting off withdraws and disappearing quietly into the night with the loot of every vendor's escrow balance. He had to invent the very ambitious and fakely generous DAI adoption so he could continue to string everyone along by providing a plausible basis (complications with the stablecoin implementation) for buyers to continue making their deposits and vendors continuing to vend despite not being able to withdraw their funds to try and milk their patrons for every last drop.

But yeah the reasons given never made any sense beginning with the shutting off of PMs (I was told it was to prevent scamming, too many scammers initiating PMs with buyers so buyers could only initiate PMs with vendors, which made zero sense not to mention being a flat out lie when as a buyer I was unable to initiate a PM with anyone) before withdraws started showing fake txids. The most they could reasonably expect from such bullshit reasoning is to milk it for a few days max IMO. Fortunately phoraoh couldn't help but give away the game plan behind his long planned bullshit stablecoin ruse in a pique of greed.
/u/JMQ7
-1 points
1 year ago
Between /u/codeless /u/fl0ppydisk and /u/strace it sounds like from the comments ye just made that ye 100% knew the exit scam was gonna happen. I don't see you guys putting up a post to warn people. Hindsight is a great thing.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 year ago
I almost didn't respond to this, because it is borderline ridiculous. This must be what it feels like to be /u/hugbunter lmao.

No one, including me, can tell 100% if an exit scam is happening, except for the admin(s) doing said exit scam.
Until it was confirmed by Hug, I was not 100% sure, however yes the "database deadlock" comment raised numerous alarms for me.
That still doesn't mean I'm going to create a post with all CAPS screaming about how I think they're lying about having a deadlock. At the time there were about 4 posts warning users to get out. I didn't think we needed another one, especially because I was not 100% sure.

I'm assuming you lost money from the exit, and that is awful. I feel for you, I do. It's shitty.
/u/JMQ7
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks
/u/codeless
2 points
1 year ago
It's not hindsight, and by the time I browsed over that comment everybody was already well warned with everything else going on anyway. Also, I wrote that "it seemed like it was going to go this way".
/u/HomeOilerBrew
2 points
1 year ago
Trusting a bunch of randos on a DNM is insane to me, better to find a direct connect for whatever you need and get them to vouch. Who the fuck is going to pay $900+ to become a vendor just to be rugged lmao.
/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
6 points
1 year ago
The only thing I want back from Incognito is my punk :(
/u/weedboy420420
1 points
1 year ago
Yea right... the site was functioning and had its own style. Dark times.
/u/Ki0shimadabz
6 points
1 year ago
we need a task force of hackers to out fuckers who own markets then exit scam...

fuck Pharoah and their cheeto dust beard

Archetyp foreva
/u/anon2059820592
2 points
1 year ago
Was gonna say, how hard could it be for some of the l337 hackers to track these guys down? You'd think they'd be enough reason to keep from exit scamming like that
/u/arkadian
5 points
1 year ago
Abacus about to get a whole lot more popular ahahha
/u/DigitalShaman
7 points
1 year ago
Not for anyone who lives in the USA - market CRAWLS on a good day, can barely browse for goods at all, extremely difficult to use even when it isn't being shut down by a DDOS. While I have not been scammed by this market, i find it extremely unusable overall merely due to the lagginess of the whole time. I'll die before I finish even browsing the listings.
/u/yorkshiregrow
3 points
1 year ago
\It's so unfortunate that not only is it so slow, but it has such difficult Captcha's they just make it such a challenge to logon! If they sorted these issues I think a lot more people would use it as it has been reliably honest for a long while now.
/u/Norty
1 points
1 year ago
When you have your PGP on your account and 2FA is enabled, it's only 2 captchas. and they're not even difficult.

if it keeps the market humming along and immune to DDOS then fuck yes, captcha me baby.
/u/weedboy420420
2 points
1 year ago
Totally agree. I think every market besides archtyp is just fucking trash. If arch falls its gonna be hard :(
/u/DigitalShaman
1 points
1 year ago
[removed by moderators]
/u/DigitalShaman
3 points
1 year ago
me over here curious what i posted that got removed - /u/HugBunter /u/Paris Is there a way for me to see what I posted that was deemed inappropriate? It's fine if it was something that shouldn't be posted but I'd like to know what precisely I did that deserved being removed, so that I don't continue to do it? Not a huge priority with all the other ongoings though....
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
It was removed by the DNM sub's staff and once deleted its gone, no way for us to recover it, sorry. Looks like it was /u/samwhiskey - any idea what the comment was?
I've removed a lot but this was possibly mentioning non superlist markets in his comment. Can't be sure though but that has popped up a lot. /u/DigitalShaman just shoot me a modmail with what you were needing to say and I'll give some guidance. Unfortunately yesterday was very busy and I didn't respond to everyone.
/u/DigitalShaman
4 points
1 year ago
Gotcha, my bad. I think every market I listed had a subdread which in my eyes makes them "valid", but perhaps that wasn't accurate - it's not a big deal but perhaps some feedback for mods is that if you're going to delete peoples comments it might help to tell them why or have a feature for only the original user to see the original commment so at least there's some sort of feedback around what wasn't allowed, otherwise I may very well do the same thing again without even realizing it wasn't allowed. No hard feelings, i'm sure it wasn't that important I just try to share the info I have.
Read over the rules of this sub to avoid further confusion. You are correct that including a reason will help users not make the same mistake, and I should have. Yesterday was extremely busy and I failed to do that a few times.
/u/getyourandom P
3 points
1 year ago
Not with those CAPTCHAs
/u/Cosmic_Mother
1 points
1 year ago
My money's on the Wale.
/u/ephedup
5 points
1 year ago
I just wanna say that without your warning on here, i wouldn't have just refunded my 31 most recent orders including 20 that were shipped out already.

I mean, what are my chances of ever being able to withdraw any of that in the current situation?

Hopefully, some of my customers are able to act fast and withdraw the funds I refunded them, before they end up in the wrong hands!
/u/getyourandom P
2 points
1 year ago*
Probably too late for the custos :( - hope not too soon but will you be listing your D-dominant racemic on any other markets?
/u/Porkpiehats
2 points
1 year ago
I must say that was really cool of you. I was just getting ready to make an order this morning. Thanks /u/hugbunter.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Good to see this was early enough of a warning to be able to have some positive outcomes. Also good to see people are actually checking Dread before ordering, that needs to be more commonplace, or at the very least getting your links from Daunt might get the warning across to you.
/u/ephedup
2 points
1 year ago
sadly, people are still placing orders on incognito. 4 more refunded orders today already here.

i'm on darkmatter and super and cypher
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Sucks, a lot of people will be using their bookmarked private links and be completely unaware
/u/minibehn
2 points
1 year ago
I am one of them, I discovered this place after trying to by on cocorico that is not closed and was wondering why seller is not shipping. So I learned to check markets before sending my coins.
Just the day I made an account on incognito I read here that there were issues. You all saved me an other loss.
It's sad, it's a really nice looking market.
/u/enosh
5 points
1 year ago
WOW crazy how well timed the exit was to the most recent peak in BTC price. They were definitely watching the BTC market with a magnifying glass. Looks like they timed it just right. Now I know to keep an eye on BTC to help predict market exits. Also, there wont likely be as big of swings with XMR so that may mean Archetyp is somewhat less likely to be tempted with inflated BTC price to persuade exit.
/u/stephenhawking69
3 points
1 year ago
Good point on the BTC. I noticed that too. With long autofinalize times there might have been funds in there from when BTC was at 60% of the price it's at now. I think markets that deal with other coin are at higher risk of temptation when there is crypto booms. Especially bitcoin. If you see the market crypto steadily going up for a week then it's probably time to limit transactions until price stabilizes. This shit could all be avoided if escrow was decentralized. Whoever figures out how to setup a market that can do escrow without requiring being in possession of the transaction funds is going to be filthy rich just taking 5% of each transaction. Like if there was a shared wallet between the buyer and seller where possession would ordinairely transfer to buyer when the pack landed, but during dispute remained held by both buyer and seller until an independent panel voted on the dispute resolution... I don't know how you could avoid corruption though... maybe if a selection of trusted active buyers and sellers from different countries helped vote on the resolution, but certain types of evidence could only be presented which did not deanonymize the buyer or seller? It's a tricky problem.
/u/RoadTraveler
5 points
1 year ago
Lost thousands...
/u/HAZETIME
3 points
1 year ago
it's my 5-10th exitscam/bust. just payout earlyer and more often. lost 600 but made a huge profit with inco. was nice there
/u/RoadTraveler
2 points
1 year ago
Yea been vending since Dream Market. It's the risk we take, but worth it overall.
/u/[deleted]
5 points
1 year ago
I knew it the second Pharaoh said they had database deadlock. That's a newbb mistake and not believable at all coming from their caliber of team. It's a shame they decided to exit.

Thanks /u/HugBunter. Seriously. You chose to protects the users.
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/u/PsyitVendor
5 points
1 year ago
Incognito is still open accepting funds from customers who have no clue yet. What a sad day.
/u/Dr_Seuss P
5 points
1 year ago
Dear HB,

Wow. What utter filth.

And what a complete idiot thinking that trade would be accepted.

"Would you like to trade your immortal soul for a URL?"

GTFO.

Much respect for the continued integrity and service to the community.

Some will go down in history as legends. Others will go down in history as the shit on the proverbial shoe.

I know which I would rather be.

Have a good week, thanks for everything, and keep up the great work my friend.

Love and blessings, DS
/u/purplenurple89
4 points
1 year ago
yup, looks like an exit. Pharoah got banned from this site... idk if im gonna cry or shoot myself
/u/scoobiesnacks
4 points
1 year ago*
Sad that this is still happening..Most vendors are moving to direct sales as a result. This is the 13th market ive survived. Another 30k in sales down the drain. We will continue to sepearte ourselves as a long standing honest vendor. /d/scoobiesnacks
/u/shockintulah
2 points
1 year ago
I have never ever have vended so I have no idea how you work the amount of coin you make. Do markets require you to leave the coin on the market or do you get it out as quickly as it comes in or do the markets limit the amount that can be taken out against your finalized sales somehow? Also, I know you can make a lot in a very short amount of time so maybe that just represents 1-2 weeks of sales for you. In any event, it sucks and you have my condolences on your financial losses, truly.
/u/Turtles
4 points
1 year ago
Another 2yrs. ritual!!! Once you're on any market that's above 2 years existence, trade with caution to enable you cut-down on exit scheme losses.
/u/Gambetta
4 points
1 year ago
dread has become stronger and faster to spot these. it's like the bohemia exit method went public now it's more difficult to repeat.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
The exit method is always the same and there are always warning signs, in Bohemia's case it wasn't so straight forward, they were not trying to exit scam, they were trying to recover. Once I posted warnings they were doomed because deposits slowed down.
/u/Gambetta
2 points
1 year ago
I see. I read some about that. I don't know the full story or anything further than what I read on here. But I noticed lot of shilling messages it seemed so much manipulation going on in the case of Bohemia. Some users that pointed out some things were instantly attacked by 4 or 5 accounts shilling the market.

however I can't remember if that was before the 'trying to put it right' or after it.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago*
Criticism and feedback will always be the straw that breaks the camels back.
/u/Gambetta
1 points
1 year ago
I am good with the language by now but English not my first language. I understand what you said but it may take me some time to actually understand what u said lol
/u/Gambetta
1 points
1 year ago
The ' Straw'. I assume u talking about Incognito and not something to do with me. I have a mini uzi by my side if anyone want to break my back there back it's getting broken at the same time.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Saw the typo lol
/u/Gambetta
1 points
1 year ago
I am not Čech but I have been enough times and relatives and friends there.
So even the word Bohemia rings something with me, but I already learned by now you can never become loyal to a market or believe that it will never go out like that. Still while it existed Bohemia market was good to me.
yes comrade always when in retrospect comrades see the signs like bredcrums
one sign that gave team kustim red flag from start was how vendor in incognito not able to cancel/refund order in dispute without moderator approval
vendor should be able to cancel and refund on any whim, no? why that was alive in first place was itch head


team kustimalso not like incognito feature of display when vvendor online this big breach of opsec if comrade refer to time correlation busts and LE creating patterns of vendor behavior
/u/johnboy42
3 points
1 year ago
I'd disagree...market and its admins had been acting sketchy for weeks...dread users still came to their defense many times (not just their shill accounts either).

When deposits/withdraws start disappearing, and their response is to dismiss and gaslight concerns, it's time to move on.

Took too long to remove from Superlist as well.
/u/Gambetta
2 points
1 year ago
i couldn't figure out exactly what you disagree with.
one thing to remember is buyers or vendors can become loyal to a market, myself included. and in this age that idea doesn't work. maybe not in any age.

your right, time to move on. let's do that.
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/u/weedboy420420
2 points
1 year ago
Bohemia & Incognito are gone and so is your money. See the many warnings on dread about the issues.

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/u/AbraCadaver P
3 points
1 year ago
Thanks for staying true. Thiefs will get their due in the end.
/u/purplenurple89
3 points
1 year ago
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/u/mouldybiscuit
3 points
1 year ago
Sorry to hear but this "im gonna go back to aggravated robberies man" made me lol.
/u/DrogaHap
1 points
1 year ago
Man i have the same situation as you
/u/purplenurple89
2 points
1 year ago
fuck man sorry to hear that... atleast im not alone
/u/DrogaHap
4 points
1 year ago
[removed]
/u/DrogaHap
2 points
1 year ago
If i waited 2-3 days and didnt deposit that was not gonna happen and i was gonna order from different market fuck man thats really unlucky
/u/Porkpiehats
2 points
1 year ago
so sorry for your troubles
/u/AbraCadaver P
3 points
1 year ago
Sneaky...I tried to withdraw <50 USD just for kicks,,,they say the withdraw has been processed etc, but nothing showing in my wallet. They even give what I assume is a fake txid.
/u/jethro23
3 points
1 year ago
If Hug could be bought out thats a terrible offer. Really shows Pharoah's intelligence
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
4 points
1 year ago
Its because I previously mentioned that when they shut down it would be great if he could, he was really banking on it meaning that much to me. It would be quite important and beneficial, but no money in the world could even buy silence on this.
another exit scam market.... lost 3K.... one more time and a lot of customers....
/u/happysmokertmg
3 points
1 year ago
You can now no longer write reviews. What an absolute cunt.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 year ago
You can still open a ticket , but not message. Send them your thoughts via a ticket . I sure did
/u/jarettscapo
2 points
1 year ago
Im sure they're taking it as seriously & to heart as the coin they robbed the scumbags
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
Mademefeelbetter
/u/jarettscapo
1 points
1 year ago
I aint mad at you for it lol. I would feel some typa way too if some filthy scumbags robbed me of coin. Never fun bein in a shit situation that you have no control over. Sry if u took a big hit. Hang in there. Brighter days lie ahead.
/u/atlasnewworker
3 points
1 year ago
hugbunter please remove incognito from daunt.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Trying, I don't have access from here. I've removed their links on the onion side, it won't sync with clearnet immediately though.
/u/atlasnewworker
2 points
1 year ago
gotcha. thank you for trying. hopefully it will sync soon.
/u/getyourandom P
2 points
1 year ago*
Don't know what the process is for getting it off but also still on dark.fail clearnet. Could sucker lots of noobs still. (Hit up their email prolly with a 1000 others)
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
DDF is completely unreachable, his Jabber is usually always online. I've had someone send him an email so hopefully he picks it up.
/u/FokkingFire420
2 points
1 year ago
DDF has removed them and placed a warning. In case you didnt know.
Nothing still from Tortaxi. Don't see a jabber listed on his site. Only email, pitch and here.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Yeah I managed to reach DDF
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/u/pinkfiberglass
3 points
1 year ago
holy shit. i am so glad i came over here to check things when i noticed my reviews had been frozen. created an account to literally just say thank you.
/u/jarettscapo
3 points
1 year ago
Thats what this place is here for....it should always be the first thing you check before any money goes on anything
/u/Jaapinca2453
3 points
1 year ago
I certainly understand that HugBunter has solid evidence of intent to exit. Maybe its foolish of me to even bother but they couldve intended to exit scam or were definitely thinking about it, probably because I really really really would like this one to not be an exit scam especially right now I would like to have a tiny bit of hope.

Nothing is better than this kind of situation and all of us being proven wrong. It hasnt happened alot in the past but it has happened where everyone was certain and then the market (not incognito but others came back up.

To Incognito, the best most acknowledged markets to exist on the DNMs at least gave room to get funds out. By exiting you are screwing with a lot of peoples lives, and liveliehoods. So idk you can go down as just another market that exited and scammed a lot of regular people for alot of money. Or you can have some decency and also prove a lot of people wrong.

Please guys get the system working again and give people a chance to at least get some of their shit.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
7 points
1 year ago
Its an exit scam.... he tried to bribe me.
/u/morlvob
3 points
1 year ago
Just want to take this moment to thank /u/HugBunter for being honorable and one of the very few persons with integrity here. thank you for warning and not being a sell-out
/u/the_six
3 points
1 year ago
That's a bitch but not surprised. Only markets that went out with grace were ASAP and WHM afaik, any others?
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
2 points
1 year ago
torrez + dream
/u/TripperX
1 points
1 year ago
They were also 2 of the best markets
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/u/JohnJumbus
3 points
1 year ago
i deposited to an external account about an hour ago.... that $ is gone, right? it confirmed it on incognito but still nothing in my wallet... 200 bucks and im pissed... cant imagine how vendors feel. fuck man, i liked that market
/u/whiskeydiskey
2 points
1 year ago
I deposited to my external about 6 hours ago. Ya that shit is gone. Fake txid as well.
/u/DasApothecary
3 points
1 year ago
What is even worse, they way they are exiting,, because it makes vendors look super bad. for buyers who are not on dread, and dont know whatis going on.
Buyers can still send messages, but vendors like us cannot respond, so buyers think we are ignoring them and their order did not get send, while IC takes their money.

Horrible way to exit honestly
/u/TripperX
1 points
1 year ago
This. Ignorance is going to create a lot of issues
/u/DasApothecary
2 points
1 year ago
Dammit, we had 9k in escrow over there, also last 3 TXID not received, with indeed seem to be fake TXID.

We cannot set vacation mode and cannot message our customers.
This is really crap.
/u/DasApothecary
2 points
1 year ago
We have to say, thank you for pointing this out
/u/HugBunter this saves a lot of drama instead of an endless exit scam. Its painful we lost 9k escrow as a vendor.

But it is what it is,
/u/hoboferry
2 points
1 year ago
Screw Incog, they were always garbage anyway. I lost $2k on that site.
/u/Gambetta
1 points
1 year ago
Good point
/u/c28h34o15
1 points
1 year ago
NGL I felt suspicious of Incognito the second I learned they generated cryptopunks for each account and I feel vindicated for that. Nothing goes together better than NFT people and exit scamming
/u/solaroppositez
2 points
1 year ago
Based on logic the signs were there.....they claim to except new crypto on the site, give us B.S. reasons as to why its not working and have a little faith, shut down withdrawals, shutdown communications on the site, take vendors our of vacation mode (biggest red flag to me), and so on.

But I have to commend one person and that's you /u/HugBunter it's easy to let greed take an individuals mind and bend it to selfishness, but it takes an even more resilient mind of strength to say luck that, log on here and warn your fellow dark net users. You have my utmost respect man and just want to say how much this shows what kind of integrity you have.

Guys this was a rough hit, lost a good amount unfortunately due to these assholes. We have to push on, whats sad is the amount of panic this will send users. Think about it, I always make sure I have a reserve but in past history there have been other market shutdowns were it has unfortunately made me go into withdrawal and that's shit I never wish on anyone. Fuck those guys, I hope someone figures out how to rob their ass for doing what they did.

But Hugbunter props to you man, for alerting the community and I just can't say thank you enough.
/u/GnomeWizard
2 points
1 year ago
For fuck sakes. I literally just paid for the vendor bond a couple days ago.
/u/igrowswiss P
2 points
1 year ago
You can maybe delete your Account. You find it in the Settingspage in the Sidebar not the Vendor Panel.
/u/2pacohnek
1 points
1 year ago
No vendor will log in anymore after this announcement
/u/partytime
2 points
1 year ago
Thank you for your integrity and honesty, Hug. Sad to see this happen, especially when the market was about to be the biggest on the DN.

As I posted in another thread, I rarely wish bad things on peopple. This instance tries my reserve, though. Damn the admins of Incognito!
/u/nutzle
2 points
1 year ago
ALL MY REVIEWS ARE LOCKED CANNOT SEND MESSAGES!!!!

INCOG IS DEF EXITING!!! I cannot fucking believe this. Actually I can. It is because namedeclined got busted. i only lost 150 in a transaction weeks ago. I feel bad for anyone who lost more!!!!
/u/weedboy420420
2 points
1 year ago
Stay strong vendors!
/u/thegoldenroad
2 points
1 year ago
mad props to /u/HugBunter for the warning. Thank you, my friend!
/u/simplysublime34
2 points
1 year ago
I didnt look here first, but i deposited and had my vendor warn me that today was his last day shipping orders because of the exit scam. My money landed flawlessly like every other time before. glad i didnt get caught up.

WITHDREW all excess funds but where do i go now? seems Archetyp might be my only option???? But how long until they exit scam as well????
/u/minibehn
1 points
1 year ago
Exit scam or busted servers, no marketplace is a safe place. Even canahome stopped it's activity, but they did it the proper way respecting customers and - I hope - sellers
/u/StewPid
2 points
1 year ago
Good call. Scamming little fucks.
/u/Temu
2 points
1 year ago
God bless you for your integrity! Thank you for the confirmation of the community's fears. thats an ugly way for them to go, no honor in that kind of behavior. I feel for everyone who lost funds, hopefully they made more than they lost. thank you again for being solid.
/u/AlanBill
2 points
1 year ago
/u/HugBunter why not just make a market then since all of them are still running away ?

Think of it ! You will then completely achieve the history of Darknet of all time.

Needless to say you already made it with Dread !!

Keep rocking it.

Cheers.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
He's said multiple times over the years that he will never ever run a market. I completely understand why. I will admit though, it would most likely be one of the best markets around.
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/u/RedHeadedStepchild72
2 points
1 year ago
I just have to say, the Integrity of /u/HugBunter is truthfully inspiring. Thank you for not being like the vast majority of the rest of the people that have a price tag attached to their morality. They will get what they deserve in the end, of that I am sure. The ones that continue to have a set of morals that they will not bend, or alter, no matter what is offered to them, those are the people that continue to give me hope that there are still some good people left on this earth that havent sold their soul. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Thanks again, stay safe out there!
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
You, sir, are a true hero, for posting this, i salute you sir:

It is well known that Incognito purchased DarkNetLive and previously I have mentioned to Pharoah that if and when he decides to shut down, it would be great if he could hand over the domain in the process to ensure it isn't used maliciously. I've been talking to him back and fourth the past few hours and got to the point where I told him a warning is going live, to which his response was to try and bribe me to take Dread down or wipe all posts regarding Incognito, in return he will hand over DNL. Big mistake, he of all people should know I can't be bought and I won't hesitate to confirm the exit.
/u/Onlygramz
2 points
1 year ago
I considered setting up an account with them now I'm glad I never went through with it. I hope most of you had kept a close grip on your funds. Thank you hug for looking out for us!
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
well fuuuucck i just fe'd a couple days ago like a retard for a "trusted" vendor. Guess i can kiss that pack goodbye
/u/eyesandears
2 points
1 year ago
you may receive, and it's not like escrow would have helped any
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
i appreciate the reassurance but it does not look likely at all. Its just too strange for him to ask for FE right before this all goes down... Luckily i Never have more than $200 in a market at once and this order was like $70 so i aint tearing my hair out
/u/eyesandears
1 points
1 year ago
ok cool - I bet ye vendor had no idea the scam was gonna happen though, why would they. Still sucks you lost the $$ but Escrow would not have helped
/u/nutzle
1 points
1 year ago
IT IS a little weird with vendor namedeclined tho...

I ordered 2/20 and 3 days later no pack sent, which is abnormal for ND. Then ND goes offline for 5 days, which is not normal. ND never settled disputes, goes on vacation mode saying "he will settle disputes" and then incog is confirmed exit scamming. THEN we find out they are also extorting vendors. ND also was faltering in his shipping times for the two weeks leading up to his offline for 5 days then vacation. This was all very weird for ND as he ia customer oriented. ND was on Silk Road 1.0 He has seen many busts and exit scams

Seems like ND knew they would be extorting and got out early? It def seems he KNEW something. I wish ND were on here to help out. Maybe ND IS PHAROAH!!!
/u/hoebiden
2 points
1 year ago
This is the kind of positive we need in the world, looking out for eachother screw scammers. There is plenty of money to be made "the right way" without scamming vendors and buyers. This exit scam stuff is becoming an over watched tv show at this point. Great work /u/hugbunter you're truly one of the good humans on this planet we need people like you.
/u/Artym
2 points
1 year ago
I see on darknetlive there's a post about this, and it's claiming hugbunter is doing this as a smear campaign....lol that's not even believable if youve been around here for a while. Hugbunter has proven to be a trustworthy individual time and time again, and that is sometimes hard to come by around here.
/u/0verdosed
3 points
1 year ago
Just an FYI darknetlive is owned by incognito
/u/b1ankface P
2 points
1 year ago
shout out to /u/orangesupply for the banner warning on incognito was gonna place a significant order between him and /u/snowbunni . Thankfully orange supply posted a banner warning on his profile about this exit... I recomend other vendors do the same it seems you can still edit your banner
/u/ComradeTweak
2 points
1 year ago
Damn. You are like the Yoda of the Darknet. I knew there's something funny going on with Incognito for the past 9 months, which is when I started the Darknet. I saw alot of post mostly on Reddit about peoples deposit missing and they seemed very adamant they weren't phished. Made an account but never made an order cause I was afraid of that happening to me. Plus the beginning captcha sucks.
/u/decree-antics
2 points
1 year ago
Fucking scamming markets, greedy cunts. Annoys the fuck out of me. Make money by building a community, not killing it and running like little pussies.
/u/BellesFleurs
2 points
1 year ago
Tried to set my profile on vacation, tried to set stock to 0, tried to change product description, nothing goes.
Withdrawals last 2 days did not come through.

Exit scam indeed is a fact.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 year ago
^^ ditto that is same here on everything you've stated above ^^
/u/Uhrensohn
2 points
1 year ago
We all hope Pharoah will die because of cancer, on a long, cruel way...
/u/lowblowjoe
2 points
1 year ago
i wish that one of them gets kidnapped, chopped into pieces and mailed back to their parents via fedex in a neat box...fedex delivers.
/u/mrgoodgood
2 points
1 year ago
Hello everyone I am MRGOODGOOD100 from Incognito and Archetype. Im not advertising anything here. I want to inform all my customeres that I shipped ur order from incognito despite the closure. If you need ur order info or have any questions you can contact me on Archetyp. I have the same PGP key so you know its me. I had to make a new dread account bc i couldnt remember my login for my original account. I have the same PGP key though so you know its legit.
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/u/CapnBlastoff
2 points
1 year ago
Is it too late to place an order?
/u/nousuallyhere
2 points
1 year ago
Fuck pharoah
/u/sillypixie
2 points
1 year ago
Anyone try to delete your account yet? I just did!!! And Guess what!

IT WORKED!!!!

Go into settings, scroll to the bottom and Delete your account (the red box)

It's the only button that still works!!!
/u/photorealism
1 points
1 year ago
I wish i had as much of the juvenile hope and enthusiasm you have.
/u/greenpirate
1 points
1 year ago
i just did the same,deleting works
/u/photorealism
2 points
1 year ago
Stay away from markets with any of those mighty, mystical, mythological & god complex bullshit staff usernames, especially if they can't spell them right.
/u/BombDropper
2 points
1 year ago
I've been sat on this information for a long while but its only the past day I saw about pharoahs exit scam and extrotion attempt. I may have his real name from a lack of security when he was first starting the market. would it be best to post it publicly or to pass it on to hugbunter and other trusted members of the community?
/u/THCQueen
1 points
1 year ago
Hugbunter, if true.
/u/skydrown
1 points
1 year ago
if he lives in Europe and you make his home address public I will gladly pay him a visit and extort him some money.
/u/wantedlive
2 points
1 year ago
Been going on for months now they been stealing peoples deposit bunch of assholes I got robbed 3k
/u/figment
2 points
1 year ago
just another comment to let you know you're appreciated greatly /u/hugbunter!!! i cant beleive the balls on pharoah. extortion on top of scam exit, what a POS.

hopefuly it's a wake up call to all those who rely on a market's message encryption versus PGP

i only lost a few bucks, but i still would like to hear how pharoah's story ends...
/u/bocceball P
1 points
1 year ago
Here here. And, whether Pharoah gets any pruno even if he chooses to be a Bottom in the pen all week.
/u/xPauz
2 points
1 year ago
Lucky I just saw this before making a deposit
/u/nightrider08
1 points
1 year ago
little to late .. but is no matter anymore -- repeating hystory is happening !
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
For fucks sake lol
/u/Agent2030
1 points
1 year ago
Guess there's no honor amongst thieves after all smh... All these goddamn Markets will still exit scam at some point too shamelessly!
Fuck sake again? There are not so many markets left anymore..
/u/jethro23
2 points
1 year ago
I believe Archetyp will stay around and leave on a good note. I understand we are all internet strangers where its not hard to create a fake persona but YGW has always seemed like a genuine person from past conversations
/u/petepsyche
2 points
1 year ago
If Archetyp gone I don't know where to be anymore, their UI really spoiled me for the standard of a market
/u/ilikemeee
1 points
1 year ago*
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1 year ago
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/u/Adlerangriff
2 points
1 year ago
wym? There's plenty of markets. Arguably more than ever.
/u/ilikemeee
1 points
1 year ago
yea u are right there are a lot markets out there, just search over dread
/u/COCALERO
1 points
1 year ago
It's a shame that it has to end like this...
/u/arkadian
1 points
1 year ago
We all hoped it wouldn't be true... Lets hope he doesn't do some shady shit like DOX all his users
/u/xavier4209
4 points
1 year ago
this is why pgp important
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Yup this exactly. I rarely visited their market so I don't know if they had that stupid "auto-encrypt" button, but if they did or if any markets do, DO NOT USE IT. You have no idea who these people truly are on the other end. You just never know. Even through years of rep building here on Dread, etc. You could potentially have your information leaked by a rogue bitter admin.
/u/Norty
1 points
1 year ago
I applied for a vendor account using my existing Abacus one as proof of my history.etc and felt a little bit weird when they didn't get back to me in 12 hours, that was about a week ago - the first time I attempted they got back to me straight away saying I didn't have enough feedback. Never went back to check if I got approved or not.
/u/arkadian
1 points
1 year ago
If those in the know could maybe get a warning out to tor taxi? They have always been good to me with positing exit scams etc
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
You seeing this shit?
WHM gracefully exited so just more FUD - darknetlive dot com/post/hugbunter-s-attempt-to-smear-two-birds-with-one-stone-b7126b2d
/u/twistytea
1 points
1 year ago
just when I think life can't get anyworse so I decide to turn to drugs to take the edge off life. and now I'm out my whole paycheck with no drugs:( fuck man i wish I check this site first. I'm so dumb
/u/LUCY_SKY_DIAMOND
1 points
1 year ago
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1 year ago
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/u/2pacohnek
1 points
1 year ago
Is it 100 % confirmed?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
5 points
1 year ago
Did you not see the quote in my post from pharoah, incognito admin? He tried to bribe me to hide it.
/u/Solar M
3 points
1 year ago
Unfortunately, I can 100% confirm the exit scam now.
/u/dreadshroom
3 points
1 year ago
I've tried sending messages, not sending or receiving. Seems they are trying to shut down communication (and therefore warnings) and squeeze whatever sales they can in the next few days.
/u/djdubai7
1 points
1 year ago
This is just so sad.
/u/discountpharmacy
1 points
1 year ago
damn and all the customers that waited for the auto FE after placing orders really screwed the vendors as well. Just took a big hit. :/
/u/rizzgod
1 points
1 year ago
Managed to withdraw my XMR. Haven't received it yet, but got a withdrawal TXID on Incognito.
How fukt am I?
About as fucked as everyone else.
/u/cromulent
1 points
1 year ago*
message deleted stop reading
/u/ElLocoUkro
1 points
1 year ago
Be hammer with scammer guys!
/u/suddendeath
1 points
1 year ago
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Get a grip dude.
/u/kherrera
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you for your honesty and integrity- there are truly few people like you.
/u/lionsexpress
1 points
1 year ago
Hey /u/HugBunter,

Thank you for your post notifying us, just a question though. I got a alot of startup sales on Incognito and now i'm worried that it will all go to ash as i wanted the confirmed market flair on this subdread. Can you please elaborate as to how i can confirm these sales with you before Incognito is doomed to oblivion?

Thank you and with regards,


LionsExpress
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Don't worry, I got you.
/u/lionsexpress
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you so much! I can't wait until i can finally vend on my own onion and steer away from this madness. It's a damn shame we were getting noticed by the community and had over 20+ 5 star reviews :(
/u/vonkeshler
1 points
1 year ago
Damn that's was my favorite market....
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1 year ago
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/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for this update, hopefully my orders arrive before this happens.
/u/DeepMajor
1 points
1 year ago
I feel sorry for all the buyers and vendors who lost significant amounts and bonds. I always enjoyed incognito's interface, it's a shame. If I knew that it's owned by such an ass, I would not have spent a cent on it.

Good luck on your upcoming plans guys...
/u/potpacks P
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/potpacks P
2 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
You really need to get back to me...
/u/waitwtf13
1 points
1 year ago
update bios? wtf?
/u/DMTeam
1 points
1 year ago
DMTeam also shipped all incognito packs in light of the obvious exit scam.. No worries guys. Fuck with vendors who are well positioned to ride out these exits and life goes on.

Side note: all you fuckers who don't finalize in a timely fashion certainly make exit scamming more likely for the side admins, and more painful for the vendors. It's a
/u/toopdoop
1 points
1 year ago
DAMMIT i had already sent some funds for orders i put in and i'm just now seeing this, probably not getting that back. damn you incognito!!!
/u/SeductiveCatMeow
1 points
1 year ago
Aww that's sucks!
I don't like exit scams :(
Hopefully everyone's okay!!!
/u/SmartyMcFly
1 points
1 year ago
Not all Heros wear capes
/u/TakeNote
1 points
1 year ago
I said it many times no one believe me.
Now they are gone.
/u/Cryptobender999
1 points
1 year ago
/u/HugBunter Pharoah has now made a post about you and DrugHub in cohoots together and the DNL domain. Just figured also mentioning that as you may have some inquiries about that on your end. If someone has already brought that to your attention great but he's definatly trying to pull a fast one on anyone who will deposit into Incog
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
I'm very aware, its hilarious, such a poor attempt to try and distract from the exit scam, he had this post cooked up and ready to go if the bribe backfired.
/u/Cryptobender999
2 points
1 year ago
his post is locked on there too so no one can comment as well heads up. Anyone able to DOS DNL that might not be a bad idea either. (not promting anything malicious but to the ones who don't check dread that may be able to help
/u/TakeNote
1 points
1 year ago
Hii /u/HugBunter

Have you see this shit?

darknetlive (dot) com/post/hugbunter-s-attempt-to-smear-two-birds-with-one-stone-b7126b2d
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah, I had a good laugh at it
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1 year ago
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/u/Giffie
1 points
1 year ago
Bless you huggie buggie
/u/JohnKramer
1 points
1 year ago
It sucks greed takes over what was otherwise fantastic. Anywhere know wheres safe to shop now?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
thanks for info and being honest.
so sad one more market exit scam.....
tired of it...
/u/whiskeydiskey
1 points
1 year ago
Just put in an order yesterday and come to Dread this morning and see this post. That money is gone. Pisses me off but I can't imagine people who lost huge sums.
/u/rcguys23
1 points
1 year ago
Fucking noobs
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/u/CurlyFries
1 points
1 year ago
So is DarkNetLive safe to use anymore?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
Probably safe but you shouldn't really
/u/CurlyFries
1 points
1 year ago
Fair. Thanks for everything you do
/u/johndoe234
1 points
1 year ago
tor.taxi onion is the safest as far as i know/been using forever.
/u/MacHaron
1 points
1 year ago
What happen with orders? I suppose there's nothing I can do as a buyer if I release the escrow of two of them and close a dispute, right?
/u/Reveal1119
1 points
1 year ago
thank you dear hugbunter...
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/nutzle
1 points
1 year ago
I also cannot withdraw bitcoin...forgot to mention that
/u/thegreateste4st
1 points
1 year ago
What's up with the fake tx IDs? Why go through the effort? The site was still up an hr ago..


As Kyle would say.. "You bastards!!"
/u/RandomBurnerAccount
1 points
1 year ago
A market everyone was suggesting just a few months ago, but for someone reason I did not like. I guess I was correct in the way I felt, even though I had no legitimate reason for.
/u/RandomBurnerAccount
1 points
1 year ago
I have been away for some time now and when I come back to Dread what do I have to see? Two markets disappearing. Kingdom Market got seized, way back in December and Incognito, a market everyone was recommending, exit scammed. All that in a span of just 2 days.
/u/ScreamPhiloSoft
1 points
1 year ago
That is how it goes unfortunately. When one falls another usually springs up to take its place.
/u/RandomBurnerAccount
2 points
1 year ago
I wonder how many times have admins from previous markets that have exit scammed came back and started a new market and did it all over again.
/u/ScreamPhiloSoft
1 points
1 year ago
Would they be able to use the same basic infrastructure or would people notice? I don't know enough about what is required to host.
/u/RandomBurnerAccount
1 points
1 year ago
Unless people know what the infrastructure is, meaning where the servers are and more they wouldn't know. Otherwise, people would get caught right away. Of course you would have to use different admin names, change the name and the layout of the market. But other than that, I would say it would probably work.
/u/concentrateconnect
1 points
1 year ago
wow thanks so much. Just saw this. Kudos hug. These fuckers got us good but if we didnt read this they would have got close to 2k today...
/u/Starless
1 points
1 year ago
Wow, with all the bitcoin withdraw problems they'd been having recently I got spooked and spent the rest of my XMR I had in the market a week ago. Happy I did, and I finalized early 2-3 days ago since I trust all the vendors I bought from. Hopefully they all got their withdraws, sorry to everyone that lost money.
/u/kaosinViceroy
1 points
1 year ago
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Hash: SHA512

KAOSIN VENDOR

Can be found on ARCHETYP

Have account on Abacus, but listings not posted or live yet.

Welcome to Kaosin,

#4 HEROIN, NO FENT
BLACK TAR HEROIN
80% PURE COCAINE, BEST PRICES ON THE MARKET
COCAINE - 97% PURE, FISHSCALE, UNCUT, ROCKS, NO FENT
A+++ - MOST POTENT SYNTHETIC CHINA WHITE HEROIN (1000S)
MIX. - SYNTHETIC CHINA WHITE HEROIN
M30 - HIGHEST QUALITY PRESSED PILLS
KETAMINE - HYDROCHLORIDE NEEDLE. PUREST ON THE MARKET
PURPLE MDMA - PURE & POTENT, UNCUT, CRYSTALS

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/u/tellyouwhat
1 points
1 year ago
Is the market down? Shit I was going to finalize an order yesterday but was out of town. Guess I'll track down the vendor here and try to cover 50%
/u/bigdrain
1 points
1 year ago
DarkNetLive comments disabled again oh wow
/u/CzechAirlines
1 points
1 year ago
I seen that coming as BTC was rising and activity of Support was lack. Glad we had just little amount here, but sorry for all people that lost much more :(
/u/bocceball P
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you, Hugbunter, and thank you for not taking the bribe. Ultra Pro there.
/u/aclosedfeeling
1 points
1 year ago
Damn it was such a great market.

RIP
/u/SeaBadger5
1 points
1 year ago
If I placed an order 12 hours before this original post was posted. And the transaction went through to the vendor. What kind of odds that I'll receive do you think I have?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
50-50, try to find your vendor and ask. Some seem to be honoring the orders still even though they won't receive the funds for it
/u/subwaysubs
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the warning and for updating Daunt. I saw this post early this morning but it was already too late for me :-(

Hopefully this post you created will still serve to ward away others still that dont know. I wish I could tell more people somehow. This sucks.

Vendors please update in your annoucements if possible - put it in your listings on other sites too - maybe alittle blip of a mention in the listings. I know several vendors are on multiple markets and people could be helped if you put the word out. Soryr if that isnt allowed I just hope more people dont make depossits.
/u/TheDrizz
1 points
1 year ago
Was about to deposit 2k CAD. Thank god I opened up Dread before. Fuck man I really loved Incognito and its UI and variety of products. Does anyone else recommend any other marketplace that is on par with Incognito? Cypher versus SuperMarket versus Abacus?
/u/NancyBotwin2021
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/0verdosed
1 points
1 year ago
You did your best nancy you did you best... I myself yeeted out of there once the deposit/withdrawal issues started up literally a mirror of bohemia.

Regardless keep up the good work you got dat sauce
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1 year ago
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/u/CombatWombat6987519
1 points
1 year ago
Anyone know if vendor ImyourIDguy is on here? Would like to connect here if possible to see if he got locked out of messaging because I found it weird that my order updated to shipped but when I asked if now would be appropriate time to request tracking I got no response even though he had been online after I sent the message. I think he also goes by Rocketman or a similar name. Dont remember exactly but Im gonna go hop over to incog and check his announcement board and scrub through all of his words
/u/headysquirtle
1 points
1 year ago
Placed an order yesterday with Shatner and it was marked as shipped, I hope my man does me right and pulls through. Big vibes to the vendors losing god knows how much in coin.
/u/bornyourn11
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck man, my dumbass deposited AFTER this post because I didn't think to look. Sorry to all yall who lost more than I did - luckily I didn't lose that much. Fuck scammers.
/u/ericvideos
1 points
1 year ago
Well this is fucked. The nicest market for me to use in terms of UX, and sorry to any Vendors who probs lost a lot on their recent orders. I put through my wihtdrawal jus tin case it works.

Was suspicious about why messaging wasn't working since almost 24 hours ago now...i raised a ticket about it. Only lost under 200 personally but still. Abacus it is..
/u/Kwik-go
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the work /u/HugBunter. Good Karma earned my G. I see though all these guys talking about loosing thousands in coin..... Why the fuck you using a market to keep your bread? You're savvy enough to hustle the DN, but you can't slide coins off into somewhere they can't exit scam you? That's like movin weight on the streets and keeping the cash in your unlocked car outside the crib. And your plug knows it. Who you really trusting? Gyat Damn! Should be nobody
/u/miner21 P
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you Hugbunter. This is the one place I can always trust on Tor because of your integrity
/u/Antipodes
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the update HugBunter, doing Gods work as usual!

Regards, Antipodes.
/u/BigDaddy2K
1 points
1 year ago
Wow thanks for your sincerity towards all of us mate!
price of coin at the moment, coincidence?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Not a coincidence at all.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
/u/HugBunter why dosent DREad makes its own market???
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
He has said himself multiple times he will never create one. I respect that. Especially since being in a position of "power" via Dread, that would be a borderline monopoly. Something of which doesn't have a place here.
/u/imyouridguy
1 points
1 year ago
great lost 11k in escrow
/u/0verdosed
1 points
1 year ago
people be axing bouts you
/u/brbbro
1 points
1 year ago
Yep me to 10k lost in escrow
Damn last night was great followed by this sad news in the morning. :(

I guess everyone needs to be vigilant now that its bull market and ever since it has been very prone to exits.
/u/msmaryjane
1 points
1 year ago
All orders have been sent! Friends, feel free to unwind!
/u/DreamPixieGirl
1 points
1 year ago
I have a question, I withdrew some amount, and there is a transaction number, but I don't see anything on monero explorer or on my wallet like an hour. Is it gone? Seriously? And it was my biggest deposit ever, I still can't believe, fuck my life
/u/mesmer444
1 points
1 year ago
Yes, unfortunate its almost certain that its gone. The transaction ID that you got is probably fake, as more people confirmed getting fake transaction IDs.
/u/Adlerangriff
1 points
1 year ago
And my dumbass was SO close to making a vendor account on incognito. Thank god I chose to stick with Super lol
/u/ftree
1 points
1 year ago
Welp. Thats it. I tried to take my money back out. Fake txid.
It's almost like they planned for this since the beginning since they added a fake txid generator into the code. probably added it recently with the recent updates.

GG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/u/mrknowitall
1 points
1 year ago
/u/HugBunter

what about Bohemia, still waiting for your update on that one
/u/arkadian
1 points
1 year ago
Bohemia has been removed from tor taxi so take that how you will
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
It was to be assumed they exit scammed, I didn't bother posting an update but have since updated their subdread to reflect their exit.
/u/mrknowitall
1 points
1 year ago
better late then never
i guess you can not put out every fire but a lot of people including myself were depending on your communication and updates on the matter
/u/arkadian
1 points
1 year ago
Gotta say love the shade on the abacus header "Incognito Refugees are welcome to Abacus Market"
/u/LaurenSouza
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you for you hard work and looking out for the community /u/hugbunter
/u/mkpharma1
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/officialmephlehem
1 points
1 year ago
Fucking hell, I just started to build my reputation up on Incognito, 200+ sales, 89 reviews, 4.99 stars.
Established vendor since way back, if anyone here remembers me, I'm still active on other markets such as Archetyp and Nemesis, creating a Drughub account today aswell.
/u/bocceball P
1 points
1 year ago
I can confirm that a tiny XMR withdraw out of Incognito was not sent after 10 hours. They even provided a txid.
/u/dandie
1 points
1 year ago
yep, had an order with topcat which he marked as shipped but said it wouldnt actually be shipped until its finalized...definitely incognito that did that. just tried to withdraw my remaining balance but theyve given a fake txid..fuck sake..should be on dread more so i can keep up with this shit and back out asap...
/u/thewobblyone
1 points
1 year ago*
Greed again - Torrez did it right and said, look we've made enough, things are getting to hot so we're shutting the market down. Just shows the power of money to corrupt some people's minds.
sad to se this market go like this. Got me for thousands of dollars.

Shitty way to exit out.
/u/HomeOilerBrew
2 points
1 year ago
Every market does this, what did you expect though?
not every market has done this. There been a couple that gave users warning ahead of time to withdraw coins.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 year ago
i'm a vendor on incognito with about $1k in escrow mostly thanks to buyers that can't seem to release payment after they've gotten their order.

i'm unable to create new listings or modify old ones. i can't seem to send out messages though i was able to receive them up to a couple of days ago.

however, i can verify that i've been receiving both xmr and btc withdrawals since march 4th.

put myself on vacation and will sit back to see how this all plays out.

thanks, hugbunter
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 year ago
update that i've not received any withdrawals since march 4, 2024. also, they are publishing fake transaction #'s.
/u/HomeOilerBrew
1 points
1 year ago
bahahaha, and ya'll have so much faith in these DNMs right?

Every single one exit scams their community.

Every one.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
For most people it is just an assumed risk now. There are cases of market admins shutting down gracefully allowing users to first withdraw, but it is rare.
/u/7kz2
1 points
1 year ago
L exit scam attempt. Major L
/u/Korypt0
1 points
1 year ago
Damn man, i had just became a tier 3 vendor, first market being a vendor on, I should've seen this coming... Greedy fucks.
Now what? Try to use archetype or abacus?
It sucks that we cant advertise DD here.
/u/LaurenSouza
1 points
1 year ago
Its for everyone's safety. DD is a risk even with big established vendors
/u/Korypt0
1 points
1 year ago
I wouldnt doubt it if archetype and abacus admins werent thinking of doing the same thing right now.. why wouldnt they..
/u/SharkHashish
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/cheatingiswinnin
1 points
1 year ago
Is this a thing that just happens with dnm? They build a market then gain enough trust to exit. I would assume people like pharoah can just create another alias and do it again.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Its extremely common. Very rare that they bow out gracefully, but does happen on occasion. They could, but with a market of this size its not likely, at least for a few years if they take a big hit to crypto devaluation or similar. The majority of the time they will have enough funds that they would never be able to launder it all for many many years though.
/u/shockintulah
1 points
1 year ago
HB I agree with you brother, but do you notice that during times when the price of BTC rises dramatically, it becomes much more attractive time for a market to exit? As we saw this week, BTC made new ATH price. As I recall, when DeSnake shutdown AB, the price of XMR also took several big drops as they cashed out that haul. Peace. Very much happy to see dread is running f a s t, kudos great work!
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
I wouldn't say that is AS common, there have been plenty of spikes that markets haven't taken advantage of, this is what triggered this exit right now though for sure.
/u/TheXanaxFactory
1 points
1 year ago
Unfortunate that this is true , We lost a decent amount and have not seen any withdraws since Sunday night.
We TheXanaxFactory from incongito have moved to drughub and will be merging to other markets as well but for now we are only located on drughub.
Also we cannot refund new orders and yes people are still placing orders which is not good.
/u/Jswing42069
1 points
1 year ago
Is anyone able to log in and successfully withdraw???
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
No.. you can't withdraw... they exit scammed.
/u/House_Of_Jerry
1 points
1 year ago
Can someone please tell me some good news. any good news
/u/minibehn
1 points
1 year ago
we are still alive.
well, depends of the pov it can be a good news
/u/chitownskag
1 points
1 year ago
At least we don't got to look at that terrible layout anymore lol... I liked my punk though lol
/u/LaurenSouza
1 points
1 year ago
Weirdly i liked the layout
/u/idreadbugs7
1 points
1 year ago*
Dang I just got an order this week. I was wondering why my reviews were locked. Sucks to know my guy won't be getting the coin I released. My closest call yet.
/u/KetamineSpray P
1 points
1 year ago
Hiya,

My name's KS. I've found that certain markets have a undertone of apathy in their work ethic before the fall, just like Alphabay. I'd say, shit flow both uphill and downhill in a work environment. Meaning, that if there's shady people on top, there's a trickle down effect of shit. I've kept this experience of Incognito Market to myself, hidden in my posting que. As I was afraid of the consequences.

I'd like to share it with the unfolding events of lately:
/post/cb41259d0d270cd93160/

Love,

KS
/u/Nouseryespapa
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the warning! I just tried to withdraw my XMR. It says completed and gives fake txid. So seems I lost my money again after bohemia and and alphabay.
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1 points
1 year ago
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/u/LaurenSouza
1 points
1 year ago
No any money on the market is gone. You can order or let it sit in your wallet but having money on the market is an illusion. You cant spend it or withdraw. Once deposited its gone.
There is no staff available so disputes will just sit there but like i say if a vendor cancels you may have the illusion of having your money back and even when you withdraw it will show the withdrawal complete but your money will never arrive.
/u/laboredimpact
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/Fenrik90
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck. I'm dumb to not asking my favorite vendor for a contact outside of Incognito much sooner. Now you can't even send messages... Anyone know how to find SpeedyGonzales21 elsewhere ? They ship from France
/u/14peace
1 points
1 year ago
whatever goes around, comes around.... BY CHANCE, does anyone know of someone who goes by the handle "goodybags"? He was Incognito and stole $400 during this bullshit, and won't respond. I fucking HATE crooked ass, stealing ass lying mother fuckers.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
If you're messaging him on Incognito he literally can't reply, they disabled messages from vendors and he also didn't get the money you sent.
/u/GodIsGreat
1 points
1 year ago
Oh wow I can't believe you said this, this was about to Mr br with a 500 dollar test order on zincognito and then look at his bio stating his telegram for direct deals where he would not answer any if aby questions about anything only give me yourmmproduct list and total price. No communication as well only a fuckmoffmuntik you pay me. ZaAVOID GOODYBAGS ,MHISNPRICES ARE TOO GOODNTO VE REAL FOR A REASON.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
i saw they had 100 x pills at $100 and thout that was weird...
/u/mrfrank
1 points
1 year ago
FUCK!!! Same here and I literally just filled 3 of my biggest orders the other day. FML and fuck Incognito.
/u/est118
1 points
1 year ago
so am i just beat then i placed an order days before this happened I got a confirmation that my order was place and being shipped label was made on inform but its been like that since idk if dude will just not send me my stuff now because im sure he has lost money but ive sent him this coin 3/4 days before any of this happens and i see other vendor telling shopper that some of them will get their order and i havent heard nothing from the vendor i shopped with
/u/TripperX
1 points
1 year ago
So this is why reviews are locked now? Literally just finalized an order on there
/u/Orewasu
1 points
1 year ago
Integrity is everything in an environment like this. There were already problems with Incognito for some time now, the exit scam "finally" happened. I hope that the people that were using Incognito foresaw this and didn't get completely fucked. Every 6 -12 months we see a market go lights out, the saying: same shit different day fits this happening pretty well. Let's see what the future brings.
/u/nftboy
1 points
1 year ago
Why do we keep falling for the same shit all the time . Markets are the biggest scammers and markets has took out more money from us than anything else. A new one will pop up with a $500-$1000 vendor bond and we all will continue trusting them like we have forgotten what happened with the previous . Is getting way better doing DD and using well established escrow services than using the markets.

Incognito please i want my money back
/u/Jesus2345
1 points
1 year ago
shiiiit im lucky i chosen archetyp over it, idk how, but the whole incognito market looked kinda sus to me from the beginning, my 6th sense went off i think... And from the guys perspective, good for him for being able to get out of the whole thing without getting busted, but all the people who got harmed, wendors and buyers also, its a shitty situation
/u/yorkshiregrow
1 points
1 year ago
Omg so I've just lost over 1k then for nothing??? Absolutely ridiculous! And they wonder why people prefer Off Market business? More likely to get reliable sellers than you are reliable markets.

Why don't many people use Abacus? They've been around for ages and not scammed yet but literally no-one is on the site. One time I offered weed for literal FREE and nobody got it.
/u/kqxmii
1 points
1 year ago
Hey, how do i access abacus?? what do i search/whats the site? sorry im kinda new to this stuff
/u/yorkshiregrow
1 points
1 year ago
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So few markets left.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Superlist markets* There is actually quite a few markets that just haven't grown too much yet, so its not in short supply. /d/DarkNetMarkets mods need to start getting through the approval process faster with the rate markets are dying
/u/bobofallbobs
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you!
/u/RadicalTreee
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck. Just wanted to get back in business and lost all my starting investment right into this exit scam ^^ One day before the scam got announced aaand ... out of funds xD
/u/bluecat1
1 points
1 year ago
WHEN THIS THIS GO DOWN ? I MEAN WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK ? I PLACED A HUGE AND I MEAN HUGE FE EARLY ORDER ON MONDAY AFTERNOON. WHEN I ORDER ON MONDAY, I ALWAYS GET THE ORDERS ON THURSDAY.
THE VENDOR STATED THAT IT WAS SHIPPED. DOES THAT MEAN THE ORDER WAS SHIPPED ? BECAUSE EVEN TODAY IT DOES NOT SHOW ON INFORMED DELIVERY AND I CANT GET A HOLD OF THE VENDOR.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I LEFT 2000 DOLLARS IN MY BALANCE, SOMETHING I HAVE NOT DONE SINCE 2020. GOD, I GOT COMFORTABLE, I GOT LAZY, BUT I CAN LIVE WITH THE 2000 LOST DOLLARS, BUT PEOPLE ARE WAITING ON THEIR GOODS. THEY ARE GOING TO COME AFTER ME. THIS IS NOT FUNNY. I HAVE CHILDREN.. THIS IS SO WRONG. WHAT I AM GOING TO TELL THEM ????????
IF THE GOODS DONT SHOW UP TODAY, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP MY KIDS AS A SINGLE FATHER, AND SKIP TOWN. THIS IS SO FUCKED UP......
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
BTC withdrawal issues started on February 19th, XMR issues started March 4th (Monday), unfortunately it seems unlikely that your vendor would have managed to ship before becoming aware of the issues. Some have still honored them and took the hit, but on a big order, obviously it is less likely. I'm sorry you are in this position and hope things work out.
/u/yunmoneyy
1 points
1 year ago
Archetyp the next market to exit scam? Seems the market is currently under maintenance, is this a "normal" issue or is this a newly issue?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
This happens eventually with the majority of markets, the reports I've had for archetyp in the last hour were a server error during withdrawal attempts. I wouldn't expect an exit from them, so its likely an issue amending their withdrawal system and tx fees to combat the current Monero network congestion, which explains the maintenance now to resolve it too.
/u/yunmoneyy
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you for the reply. Just asking cause within 5-10 minutes of being on it, it had went down under maintenance.
/u/incog36
1 points
1 year ago*
Man some comments is ridiculous 4 sure. Therefore i thank you /u/hugbunter as a fellow sportsman!
/u/yunmoneyy
1 points
1 year ago*
I believe incognito has finally shut their site down. Everything on tor loads fine, was just on it 10 minutes ago and now it won't load at all. Goodluck everyone, hopefully this isn't the case and Pharoah catches his head and realizes what he is doing to everyone out here on the DNM.

Edit: I apologize, just one of their onionlinks seem to not be working, the rest are working fine.
/u/hollywoodbands
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck them
/u/Cinam0nR00l
1 points
1 year ago
tbh i am not surprise
/u/TheLastXanax
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you for your service!
/u/Kev69 P
1 points
1 year ago
God Dame!

Get Strung-Out, Half-Dead Just a couple weeks and fucking world falling apart!

Oh Dear God...whom will supply My Habit Now?

...Next Player Up...
/u/ScreamPhiloSoft
1 points
1 year ago
I just logged into my account over there and noticed the greeting message changed. It says for vendors to check some tab because they have something special for them. Can anyone tell me what that is all about?
/u/dglvr2000
1 points
1 year ago
They're trying to extort sellers now.. fuckers. just saw another post about it..
https://dump.li/image/716a35d88ef0a297.png
/u/arkadian
1 points
1 year ago
The god complex you must have to post a message to all the sellers like that.... They are asking to be hunted down
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/u/TheBarStar
1 points
1 year ago
just logged into an empty wallet rip 1000$ was about to order
/u/TheBarStar
1 points
1 year ago
yup llost a fuck load...... missing some orders for a few months
/u/i_will_do_it
1 points
1 year ago
No use in paying, he's obviously gonna keep the money and the data. Hasn't he proved it already.
/u/DREADMODDAVIDLEE
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah it's possible
All the money I had on my Incognito account just vanished diablo 2 Hex charm style w/o warning
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1 points
1 year ago
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/u/ModernGhost
1 points
1 year ago
Vendors STOP paying the extortion. When i went through the list there are loads who have paid. DO you really trust this guy to delete your customers info after what hes done? Hes going to take your money and still post them
/u/meshed808
1 points
1 year ago
Where can I see the list?
/u/getyourandom P
1 points
1 year ago
Betting lot of those green vendors did not really pay.
/u/mrgoodsir
1 points
1 year ago
So i tried to withdraw my XMR and was given a fake confirmation. Im really pissed off, is there anyway i can get my money back or did i just donate it all to these scamming cunts?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
It is gone unfortunately, make sure to check Dread or at least get your links from Daunt before depositing funds, the news travels fastest here
/u/meshed808
1 points
1 year ago
What's your advice for vendors and buyers regarding incognito?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
1 year ago
In regards to the extortion? Its hard for me to comment on it because its not me this affects, vendors and buyers will have to make their own decisions that they see fit to handle any fall out if data is leaked and learn from it. I've suggested that vendors do not pay into this extortion, but that is their call for their operation.
/u/RichTheRiddler
1 points
1 year ago
It does not even seem possible to click that Purge buttom now, for some reason, even though vendors have enough funds in their market wallet to do so.
/u/mrgoodsir
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for the quick reply! damn that sucks, but i guess that's the risk we take. Lets hope someone with the technical skills can get revenge for all of us who lost money
/u/Kev69 P
1 points
1 year ago
Feels good when you know
Some things Cannot be Bought!
/u/guidoVanRossum
1 points
1 year ago
i remember when aplhabay was exit scamming and you warned about it too, me silly noob getting scammed haha and now I see you noticing about another market, s/o to you man.
cant imagine being a vendor its crazy
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/u/marshall
1 points
1 year ago
many forum dmins criticized me for presenting evidence against INCOGNITO on my page /d/EXITSCAM_MARKETS
Now I'm glad that I was right and because I pointed out to some users that incognito is a SCAM MARKET
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
bro you were the first whistle blower , i can vouch for that , weeks ago i saw your post
/u/dglvr2000
1 points
1 year ago
Agreed
/u/nutzle
1 points
1 year ago
Just saw today my wallet, which up until today showed a balance has OFFICIALLY been cleaned out. My balances are all ZERO now. I knew it was coming.

I have an order from 2/20 that I never recived bc my vendor namedeclined went aWOL and then vacation mode and he never settled disputes.

I cant remember which site did this, it was a few years back, but they used a third party ESCROW so that in the event that they exit scammed as long as order was not finalized you could get your money back from escrow.

I am thinking incog is in control of the ESCROW on their site directly? I am sure that exit scamming was the plan all along. I am trying to find information on their escrow if anyone knows anything please comment or message me!
Of course they are in charge of their own escrow. Every escrow market that exists controls the escrow. You're thinking about multi-sig escrow (have a read about that) like versus had.
/u/nutzle
1 points
1 year ago
versus...and correct it was multi sig escrow. I had been using non multi sig for awhile now so I couldnt even remember.
/u/sleepys
1 points
1 year ago
mannn I wasn't on dread for like a month and I came back to hear this
/u/bigbravo
1 points
1 year ago
I've been away from the game for a lil min now. But they're basically bribing people lmao
/u/sodopeaus
1 points
1 year ago
Wow integrity still exists high up in the community, hope you stay true to your word when they try bribe you with the Alphabay bag
/u/FlashGordon007
1 points
1 year ago
saw this one too late too. wiped me out
/u/Zorvan
1 points
1 year ago
Well well well
/u/whataname
1 points
1 year ago
I only used incog a couple times (manual pgp as always) but I just logged in and it looked completely normal. Where's the extortion stuff people are mentioning coming from? Cheers.
/u/boeingbean
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/whataname
1 points
1 year ago
While the comment's being moderated, let me guess, you're going to link me to a fantastic alternative that's definitely not a scam ;)
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1 points
1 year ago
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/u/inkyskin75
1 points
1 year ago
I just checked had about $2.50 in my incognito bank/wallet and now it's at zero, thanks for the heads up, was wondering what was going on.
/u/GOUPIL
1 points
1 year ago
Very sad.
/u/intel1234
1 points
1 year ago
Maybe its a setup from North Korea... ( im not paranoid, I've never created an account on this site).

Idk but a normal person would be extremely scarred about getting doxxed after doing things like this kind of shit incog admin is doing.
"they" seem to get away with it pretty easy and are convinced about the extortation they are doing. Why would you else do it.
They are shaking up the entire DN community by doing this. I see alot of benefits for north korea for doing this.


I just can't imagine that a normal person would not do this kind of shit..

Conclusion: STOP USING AUTO ENCRYPT!!!!!!!!!!!! MARKETS THAT ACCEPT THIS FROM NOW ON MUST BE AVOIDED I THINK.
/u/aloe
1 points
1 year ago
Possible, but it is much more likely just some moron or a team of morons who are high on their own arrogance. Goes without saying, but of course never rely on any auto-encrypt feature for pgp.
/u/cgenvoy
1 points
1 year ago
This is so annoying bro... I guess I lost 4.90 in xmr.
Fuck them!!
/u/ObeseKitty
1 points
1 year ago
ouch, damn bro I feel for ya. fuck.
/u/MisterRichardSmoker
1 points
1 year ago
Where is the Nightmare Markent when we need you most?

I know we are all wooks, but I really thought Pharoah was a man of integrity and respect. Dude owes me $100 worth of blotter lmao
/u/cannon1234
1 points
1 year ago
So the cops didn't shut them down?
/u/cannon1234
1 points
1 year ago
So the cops didn't bust them it was an exit scam?!?!?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
The post answers your question, no?
/u/Dankster2Incog
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck these dudes. Took 1k from me. Scumbags.
/u/SmollMushie2
1 points
1 year ago
Do you think they will leak the data I am just a buyer and I did pay the ransom not the full amount but it just swallowed my funds. ≈ $50 They were asking for $300. I always used PGP when speaking to vendors. I'm new to this not experienced this before.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Its possible and if you manually encrypted with PGP yourself, rather than using the on-site auto encryption for your sensitive messages, then you have nothing to worry about. You didn't pay any sort of ransom though, that was just your funds being stolen in general. The extortion is aimed at the vendors directly to put pressure on them to take care of their customers. I think a lot of the vendors who are paying are worried about the unencrypted info THEY have sent though rather than their customers. Trusting that the admin will even remove the data after payment is crazy enough.

Edit: I forgot to cover payments, you also would have concerns if you paid in BTC and it could trace back to you, if he was to release transaction data. However, small time buyers won't even be targetted when it comes to LE.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
they are asking buyers for it too Im just a buyer and there is a button asking for a grand lmao
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah he's really squeezing for petty cash now
/u/Cash4Crypto
1 points
1 year ago
He must know most vendors don't give two shits about their customers and even if they did passing over money would just lead to more requests. Can't see them making much from the few customers that [pay up either, so I'm guessing it must be someone low down who hasn't profitted much from this exit because whoever had access to the main funds must have got millions and wouldn't be hassled about getting a few more thousand.
/u/grekiuterminator
1 points
1 year ago
yes ,thats true
/u/mistirio21
1 points
1 year ago
always the same story, when he reaches a high level of business he leaves due to fraud
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/u/8ozer
1 points
1 year ago
so is there no way to even message anymore? I had a contact named PharMed not tryna lose bro
/u/oxycock
1 points
1 year ago
He's on other markets and I believe on here bro. Safe travels
/u/Mouzone
1 points
1 year ago
I even see vendor announcements telling people not to buy from them or deposit money, only a matter of time...
/u/ObeseKitty
1 points
1 year ago
Incognito was and well crafted site for awhile. I cant believe these greedy bastards ruined a popular site, they are doing us so dirty. frickin BS. so far abacus and archetyp are the top 2 markets I trust for now. nemisis market, or drughub im not so sure.
/u/FlyHighShop
1 points
1 year ago
Did you guys see "We left everyone a nasty surprise" and then button. Any idea what is that?
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 year ago
/post/5929c497657e58d0c10a

They're extorting vendors and buyers by threatening to leak order info and txids
/u/porkypig
1 points
1 year ago
Yea, i still don't understand that. What do they gain? Reduced sentence, assuming they got pinched and on bail? If they were that smart they would exit quietly with no comms, take the money and just go. Why make this a thing, and jerk us all off? Like, do they think people don't know who they are IRL?
/u/thekestral
1 points
1 year ago
If I see a vendor I use name in green on the extortion page I'll never use them again, If they folded so easy to this moron then they will fold to LE if it came to it
/u/evenh
3 points
1 year ago
Use your brain. Incognito want to make it look like heaps of vendors have paid in order to fool more into paying.
Doubtful many have paid.
/u/Ketamina
1 points
1 year ago
Where is the vendor extortion page? I'm curious who has paid up.
/u/Oz_Wide
1 points
1 year ago
Can't say we are surprised by this.
/u/laserfraser
1 points
1 year ago
BTC is just trackable... like just. And that is if you are oging to go to the lengths of tracing large amounts of coin. NOt your smaller amounts for personal use. But whats the point in threatening to put XMR transactions up? The receiver does not know the origin of the XMR transaction not is the amount published on the chain, all origin addresses are equiprobable.
/u/HapyHapyJoiJoi
1 points
1 year ago
How can they be exit scamming for so long, are some vendors still selling on the site? If so those vendors should be punished and they are complicit in the scam.!
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Vendors can't disable their accounts, listings or send messages. Markets can be left running for a very long time after they decide to scam everyone, in the hopes of unaware users depositing more money.
/u/cogni24
1 points
1 year ago
I can't believe some of the tactics he is using and things that have surfaced. Like some of the dirtiest and most simple principles violated. Shit you learn in the beginning of this endeavors. Karma is a very real thing and I can't imagine it's a very smart idea to be poking a shit load of potential bears 🐻🤦🏼♂️🫣 JS whether it be LE or some vendor/ whoever he fucks over or extorts will catch up with him/her...
/u/bart_ar_do_RIP_Frozone
2 points
1 year ago
I cant wait.... I hope a major cartel head of house hold gets him captured alive and skins him. and the electrocutes him... but make sure he lives for like 6 years in a cage with just new and worse everyday events happing to this fuckin fag boy
/u/SwollenGizzard
1 points
1 year ago
Amen to this. Was thinking something similar to happen to this dick sprout. Surely the cartel is going to come after him. He cannot hide forever, at least I hope not. He needs to pay dearly for this with pain and suffering.
/u/numb666
1 points
1 year ago
I got fuckkkkked im tryna find my vendor on here, fuck man
/u/riggley29
1 points
1 year ago
Noob question here, but what is "Incognito?" I'm familiar (sort of) with the browser extension that lets you use TOR, but it doesn't sound like that's what HugBunter is talking about.
/u/VoiddMXM
1 points
1 year ago
It was a DarkNet Market, a popular one before all this shit happened
/u/nomad-traveller
1 points
1 year ago
honestly, every single website, including dread, removing the link to incognito is exactly the same bullshit i want to avoid on the clearweb. we're not children. i can't even wipe my account since i can't find a link to the website. come the fuck on.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
You can't wipe your account anyway, they keep the data. The link being removed reduces the chances of more money being stolen.
/u/evenh
1 points
1 year ago
You imagining you can delete your incognito account to protect yourself from the people who run that very website shows you are absolutely a "child". Child is an understatement. Unbelievable.
/u/nomad-traveller
1 points
1 year ago
fuck off baby account. nobody asked for your opinion nobody needs it.
/u/Moppsel
1 points
1 year ago
Aaaaand they are off...? Or just a hiccup on my onion circle?
/u/HiddenGenius
1 points
1 year ago
Yes the incognito admin is an asshole.
Thank fuck I went in vacation before all this shit so I didn't lose anything 😱

Feel bad for those that did.
/u/Amer1canSpirit-PR
2 points
1 year ago
Same here nice to go on routine vacation modes
/u/cryptdesign
1 points
1 year ago
Encouraging vendors to establish personalized custom shops rather than relying solely on markets, as many markets can lead to exit scams and financial losses.

For Custom shop (Inbox)
/u/Abacyst
1 points
1 year ago
I leave for couple months and my go-to is fucking gone. I hate this
/u/weather_man
1 points
1 year ago
One massive blowout.
/u/theillusivem4n
1 points
1 year ago*
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/u/adam818423
1 points
1 year ago
If anyone was scared of being extorted they shouldnt have been selling drugs to begin with. I just found out of this but id sit my ass a year in jail if i knew i could fuck these assholes over 10x. I lost a bit of monero too but dam i can only imagine how some of these sellers feel
/u/adam818423
1 points
1 year ago
fuckin pussys
/u/SnoopDoggSmoked2pac
1 points
1 year ago
Like clockwork BTC goes way up and markets get TF out... rinse repeat.
/u/UK420
1 points
1 year ago
Has anyone here paid the extortion price ?
I'm a bit concerned, i'm disabled and only a small vendor earning not much at all but I'm good at what I do, I worked as hard as I could to keep 100% feedback and I got to level 3 but there's no way I can afford $1000, Incog was helping me survive at basic level. I'm now on Aba and really grateful to the mods for wavering the bond but i'm still
just earning barely enough to keep the lights on. So this extortion is really adding to my mh problems. I know there's always a risk vending but this 'option' feels worse.
Could go into more debt to pay it and it still gets leaked anyway...need some opinions.
Thanks
/u/lawyerinfo
1 points
1 year ago
read my post bro dont pay
/u/UK420
1 points
1 year ago
Genuinely don't think I can if I wanted to, business is so slow since Incog did this. Well it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
/u/lawyerinfo
1 points
1 year ago
Their method of catching the administrators who are always the target is to locate the address that sends the funds to withdraw from the market and it never works. They did it with alphabay and it didn't work. They had Alex with something else. There is so much banking and financial fraud of all types that this is very frowned upon proof if there is only a txid that comes out of nowhere. without witnesses close to the admin to organize a MR BIG they seize the server but there can be admin in prison someone.

the sellers catch them by chance or generally the cops are all over the market and order packages and look for fingerprints of people that are in their database and follow them until they catch him dropping off the package. but follow txid to catch a seller it's a crappy method and total chaos to file as evidence they have to try to get a warrant from a judge for a possible darkweb seller. Above all justify it with anonymous information or on the part of Pharaoh the worst witness in progress is a zero credibility scammer.

he would incriminate himself. The sellers who are arrested in operations like sector are often close to the administrator and most of the files fall through. the quantity of darkweb sellers are incalculable and we see some going to prison but it's a minimal % and by reading the articles and the course file you see that they are always mega idiots.


the drug buyers calm down, the police don't care. we are not in the street where a customer can denounce his salesman and he goes up the chain. txids are already public on blockstream, they are the worst idiot

pharaohs is a scammer and will not end up scamming a friends and will offer him a lot for his identity. And here I am telling you about the craziest Redroom of all time.

after to send all donations from the show to lots of humanitarian foundations
/u/GreyQueen
3 points
1 year ago
Jesus, I'd hate to have you as my lawyer, you can't string a sentence together for fucks sake.
/u/ilwfi
1 points
1 year ago
Does anyone have news about Incognito?
Now when you log in you are no longer redirected to the extortionist site, everything seems normal...
but if you add the /records after logging in it says, I quote,
"April Fool! We were just trolling, your data were actually deleted as specified."
/u/mito
1 points
1 year ago
news from incognito?

they are operating incognito.
/u/mito
1 points
1 year ago*
darknetlive has stopped publishing anything new since march 6th....

they gave up apparently.

also, comments from all articles were removed.
/u/ColorfulScheme
1 points
1 year ago
Shitty move. Not surprised though.

Hopefully more people will start using fucking PGP and XMR as a result of this.
/u/McDonaldsCoke
1 points
1 year ago
Fees are so fucking high with BTC now I don't understand why anyone still uses it.
/u/pilzhof
1 points
1 year ago
Shroom Vendor since Dream Market is now on Archetyp and Abacus
/u/beansdilla67
1 points
1 year ago
Kudos to /u/HugBunter for alerting, I realized it the bad way. I've just ordered some goodies from Incognito 2 days before they did their "maintenance" and that supposed "implementation of DAI and ETH as new currencies". When I saw the message I immediately realized that was an exit scam, but not such a shameless one. I don't know about DAI, but ETH it's for sure not a privacy-focused coin, and their wording "DAI, a non-freezable stablecoin" just pictured for me a humongous red flag, but it was too late. I sent a warning message to the seller I bought from, since the order was still on escrow time, but he replied me with "Your funds are safe on the market". So I just took the little remainder from my market wallet (1.13eur) and I used the "donation" function which supposedly funds a commission for the market and the rest to a nonprofit. I chose EFF, Electronic Frontier Foundation.
TL;DR
IMHO I wouldn't exit scam because I believe in my principles, and they already must have made some cheesy money from the transactions, vendor apply fees, etc. but what they did it's a shameless extortion to the people that made their market run in the first place!! It's wild. I guess it is what it is, some people would care less, and some people must be mad at them, a LOT I suppose. I encrypted each and every personal detail, you can never trust the "auto-encryption feature", so I'm pretty safe. But man, some vendors must be turning crazy with this thing.
All in all, good luck to every person directly/indirectly affected by this extortion.
/u/lawyerinfo
1 points
1 year ago
I am a criminal lawyer and besides we cannot do anything with txid especially since the reimbursements were made from the market wallet. yes they can trace but a transaction. without confession you tell the police officer eh what who what what wallet. (a PC is hackable I have no proof) and to warn you that they will be interested in you pharaoh. because running a black market is more serious than selling a little drug. these are yes say in law, said of an imbecile who sends us sends txid from all over the world imagine the work of classification and request for cooperation with the police of interpol. This is not admissible proof, it is anonymous with no witness to the origin of the information, no more proof of the sending of this data.. but proof of your involvement in the creation of the market and extortion. I'm a criminal lawyer and that sentence is about 50 years in the United States. And for calm customers it is of no use. there is another unacceptable proof I can order a package in your name now and believe you who will come to pick you up let's see. It's the admins who want to catch. If it had been possible, the exits would have had the idea before an imbecile not capable of repairing a captcha and creating a forum that holds up.

the police lack the budget to follow the cosa nostra and the Mexican cartel but they will put all their effort into verifying txids which may be hoaxes and always play the card of the imbecile who defrauds them in case visit but impossible an international criminal file with a txid coming from anonymous information falls in 2 minutes the prosecutor does not even proceed with the file and the judge will say you only have this proof a txid which links to a person who could be a victim hacking without witnesses nothing else the prosecutor is aware that you could sue the government and thank you pharaoh.
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/u/cryptorisepro
1 points
1 year ago
hello
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/u/gyzzdjy
1 points
1 year ago
Yes, I lost over $1,000. Including my deposit.
The incognito and Nemesis thing made me feel dangerous and I stopped entering any market.
/u/Hippieflippin
1 points
1 year ago
Ouch.

Hopefully retaliation will come one day for this scumbag.

Great call though, Hugbunter!
/u/porkypig
1 points
1 year ago
Is there any point to leaving this thread open? /u/dontlaugh linking you up here because I think this horse has been beaten to death and now looking at McDonald's meat.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
1 points
1 year ago
serves as a warning considering the site is still up saying they are in maintenance.
/u/porkypig
1 points
1 year ago
No shit.... Not only to people lose buckets of money. He left the site alive? Like who does that? I haven't visited that site because I don't want anything captured even if I use VPN and tor. Not worth the risk.
/u/lordchem100
1 points
1 year ago
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1 points
1 year ago
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/u/dropdeadzxc
1 points
1 year ago
WELL i just withdraw my 10quid and everything seems normal? ofc i wont use it again but wtf happened then?
/u/27BigBoy27
1 points
1 year ago
im on search about a vendor at incognito ,did some one now which markets vendor ghostbusterz is online?
/u/diggerbick26
1 points
10 months ago
have you found him bro? saw a vendor on archetyp using ghostbusterzDE
/u/Adrenalin
1 points
1 year ago
Hey,

I had very good connection to ChapoRV.
Who knows, were I can find him now?
/u/RoatanMan
1 points
1 year ago
Can anyone recommend a market accepting btc?? Went from Incognito to Cypher now I'm unable to find a new market that accepts btc. Any suggestions appreciated.
/u/baingbaing2
1 points
1 year ago
I just wanted to say thx for doing the right thing, even though going rogue could be tempting.

Integrity is priceless. Big respect to you.
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/u/BrohanSantana
1 points
1 year ago
Crazy. It's literally like a rollercoaster. I mean even MGM yesterday you couldn't sign into for a long time. I feel like every time I can't sign in and it says something funky I just lost all my money....again. Stressful. Need more OpSec.
/u/Imurkdrol
1 points
1 year ago
Wondering if this is still up to date?

It's been a month now and Incognito is still here.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Yes... the site is still up, but it is just there to steal your funds. If you see a warning on Dread, it is an active warning.
/u/Imurkdrol
1 points
1 year ago
Got it. Makes sense and thanks for the warning.
/u/BrohanSantana
1 points
1 year ago
Thanks for this. Fucker (not you, phar). It's crazy because actually just because we are on the DN most people I meet on here are great people. People I'd love to hang with. Then you have people like Pharoah. Let's keep our integrity. Just because we self medicate doesn't mean we have to be dicks.
/u/5kids
1 points
1 year ago
the world would be much worse off without dread and hug
/u/Rule
1 points
1 year ago
Lost 200 from these assholes
/u/flyaway1999
1 points
1 year ago
good job
/u/DaVenom
1 points
1 year ago
Welcome to the winners ;)
/u/therealblue
1 points
1 year ago
Would it be safe to login and get vendors info about how to contact them if still within their profile?

Any thoughts?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Hallo Guys ! I have downloaded a malware from github (.zip) for a email, but how did you get the code of an email ?
/u/Brichston
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you it's good to know. I'm super green to all this dnm , and new to just about everything in the dark web realm. Just yesterday I was looking at stuff on incognito that was tempting.
Your warming came at the right time my friend.
Thank you
/u/jh2bh
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you HugBunter for looking out. U don't know how much it means to all of us
/u/littl3bugfly
1 points
1 year ago
Much appreciation to you. I love this community and actually listened to a recent podcast where they mentioned you. I had to pause for a second haahaa. Stay safe dawg
/u/jesterhumperman
1 points
1 year ago
arent those the guys that started blackmailing former users
/u/Pinesnatch
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you
/u/jetchris
1 points
1 year ago
In the time I was ghosting here so many markets went away that is crazy
/u/ImRebellious
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you
/u/Que666666
1 points
1 year ago
this is a shame but seriously, koodos to you for stopping the fuckery from continuing
/u/Therightthing
1 points
1 year ago
Archtyp is in the process of perpetrating a sophisticated scam where the systematically emptying wallets whether it $7 or $500 and just blame phishing. I have been in touch with 35 people with responses that this has happened to. There were also around 200 post on different forums of this happening who i did not get a response to. Beware of Archtryp and there bs pseudo righteous babbling. What is happening is almost impossible to not be an admin or all of them. BEWARE
/u/billybobrobert
1 points
1 year ago
get the fuck outta here with your brand new account and talking shit. any "lost" or "stolen" funds on archetyp are the fault of the user who got phished into depositing money into a phishing site. do not use links to a market unless it is 100% vetted and verified.
/u/[deleted]
0 points
1 year ago
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/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
2 points
1 year ago
Are you even aware of the situation?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
He literally just admitted it to me dude ???
he says to you , i go exit scam ?? really........
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
4 points
1 year ago
Yes, he tried to bribe me because I told him I was going to put a warning out anyway. All market staff are locked out of their accounts now too.
for sure , he not come back? i lost a lot.. another market....
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/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
NONONONONON INCOGNITO BROS WE GOT COCKY
/u/yayoblisss
2 points
1 year ago*
SEND ME THAT STUPID FUCKIN PUNK NFT I HAD TO LOOK AT FOR 2 GOD DAMN YEARS .... YOU PIECE OF SHIT

these fuckers were planning to attempt the largest exit scam since nightmare market. Looking to take eth and makerDAO in addition to btc and xmr during a super cycle. Instead they get a copy of, a bunch of worthless jpegs. HA GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
5 points
1 year ago
They were never implementing them, it was a distraction and excuse for withdrawal issues.
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
1 year ago*
Oh i know they were not planning to implement them as a currency to use on the market, i figured the idea / intention was to post a market eth & makerDAO deposit address for those coins and subsequently get those as well.

but that doesnt make sense now that i think about it, because they were talking about bringing those online next week. So basically they were just trying to stall the withdraw issue as long as possible.

On the bright side, this was one of the poorest executed exit scams i can recall. You think they saw their wallet balance double in value, basically over night and said fuck it for our third anniversary we will exit scam?
/u/SteroidWarehouse
1 points
1 year ago
That's a really good point. They were either testing the waters with the make-belief BTC withdrawal issues from last week in order to see how fast the info would spread or maybe they were planning to exit scam right then and there but given the bitcoin price increase they extended the exit scam deadline. I'm a bit surprized that they didn't disable the vendor announcement text box. I was able to warn quite a lot of my (potential) customers to not order and to go to Dread for more information. I remember Apollon in January 2020 locked all vendors out of their accounts and kept on taking in orders from unsuspecting customers. I would err on the sloppy side of an exit scam just like you mention. Had this been done right they could've kept going for a while. I would think that you want to target the big vendors first just like Bohemia did and allow small and medium vendors to continue to withdraw as well as users so it creates a lot of confusion. Or you can just announce that you will retire as a market after having filled your pockets and then sail off into the sunset like WHM and ASAP did with their reputation intact and if you ever run out of money you know you can always come back and use that reputation to build another market (just like Drug Hub is doing now). That would be the smart play.
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
1 year ago
Yea Apollon was a well executed exit scam ... So was Nightmare market. Also was it alphabay 2 that decided to exit while dread was down? or which market was it that did that? Dread was down for a week or so and they figured that was the time to exit, i think it was alphabay 2 ... So yeah exit scams suck ass but at least this one was caught early. Thats the best case scenario in any exit
/u/BRITSHEROIN_LOVER
1 points
1 year ago
actually, nightmare market owner was exposed, i seem to remember somebody post photo of this owner at login page just before market exit-scammed? apollon was very small market.. but kimble&verto was the mastermind exit scamming with 7m dollars with zero bread crumb trails behind. and so was de snake. the FUCKER.
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/u/DREADMODDAVIDLEE
0 points
1 year ago
No we are not exit scamming. We are creating new avenues for people like lawyers and doctors to get what they need through less volatile and trustable coins like DAI and still using Monero/Bitcoin for the old-school. One site that isn't going anywhere soon is incognito. At Least 6 months, waiting for a couple dealers to make it right but most of my friends love it.
/u/lowblowjoe
2 points
1 year ago
who are you, anyways?
/u/SlimeyyTrap
1 points
1 year ago
Lmao you gotta be kidding
/u/skinnypete69
0 points
1 year ago
take L's bitches
/u/KandyKid
0 points
1 year ago
Lucky to say we never started vending there. As for everyone who did and is going through this, you have our deepest condolences. Do not give in to these evil people more than likely they are full of shit. Keep pushing on and look forward we are optimistic the community will recover. Stay blessed everyone :-)
/u/Pun1sher
-3 points
1 year ago
/u/hugbunter Look how quickly you got here and warned the users about this exit scam and I have to give you my congratulations about it. If you had done the same with bohemia you would have been a hero, but instead you chose to shut your mouth and intervene a month later. But then, it was too late for a lot of people.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
4 points
1 year ago
I didn't, they were actively resolving it and paying out the biggest vendor withdrawals. Once I put the warning out its what caused the exit because they were no longer able to try and recover using new deposits.
/u/MuXd9NzifvgAue4ya
1 points
1 year ago
Were actively trying to bring the canabis sister market back online too? I notice how this is always curiously missing from your analysis. Every time one loaded Bohemia, they asked if you wished to visit Bohemia or their canabis sister market. It is impossible you did not know they exited that part already.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
I wasn't here when Cannabia went down and Bohemia admin told me he was going to announce they are permanently shutting Cannabia down. I've mentioned this previously that they were going to make an announcement about it, but they never did
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Lmao I'm not controlling any information flow, nothing is getting removed etc. DeSnake wasn't Mr White either. DrugHub got approved by the DNM mods in the last couple of weeks to be added to the Superlist, just like any market on that list they have access to Dread Ads.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Ha it was me always calling DS out, I don't care about him being a donator, everyone else tried to protect him and believed all his bullshit.
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1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
No, I just planned to do a write up on the whole thing, which also calls out Paris unfortunately, because he was seriously manipulated by DS and talked me down over my concerns constantly.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
I take responsibility when I'm in the wrong, all I'm doing here is explaining the facts, do you really think Paris would just allow me to say something like that about him? He acknowledged he was wrong as soon as the exit scam started. I could have definitely done more, but I never had any proof of my thoughts on DS and I do not share my personal opinions on anything unless there is a solid foundation to it.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
Lmao are you for real?
/u/StuckInTheMiddleWithYou
1 points
1 year ago
Are those of us who still believe he died and didn't exit scam deluded? Genuinely asking.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
If you really believe that then I guess I'll have to still consider writing up that post. He was active after the exit scam, he didn't just disappear.
/u/StuckInTheMiddleWithYou
1 points
1 year ago
I mean I've heard the rumors about him owning Titan and since Titan is still around, he is too, but AFAIK he was just affiliated/partners with them. You sound sure enough, so I think that already speaks volumes. I would like to hear the full story, if you get around to it.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
No, Titan is a ghost ship and was ran by him. He was active and paid staff after the supposed disappearance. He might very well even use Titan still for whatever purposes, but its likely just left as long as the hosting is paid for.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
/u/HugBunter
Please write the post. Not because I'm some schizo conspiracy theorist, but just because I'd genuinely like to read the story. It might shut some weirdos up.
Where was he active after the dissapearance? This is new information to me at least. I would love to see a post written up by you about where desnake went and what he was doing after the exit. I know alot of us vendors on here would. That mf got me good. I also believed for a while that he may of died but that belief was 50/50 with just regular old exit scam, leaning more towards just exit scam.
/u/SwollenGizzard
1 points
1 year ago
Yes, by all means, please do this write up. It would help many of us that lost a shiteload of piss cope or deal better with this, maybe, somehow. Thank you.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Now that they are proving their exit scam. You were right and shame to me for not believing the truth that was behind.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you, I wouldn't post something like this unless I was sure and I didn't until he literally confirmed it himself, although a warning was imminent, but still wouldn't have been a confirmation of exit, but rather a PSA on the current "issues".
my 5k from Bohemia=gone
My 2200 From Incognegro=gone All vacation/Stock/Message locked...
i Think its safe To say both exit scammed In a worm Like fasion innit?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
And you are also featured as "Top vendor" with literally zero sales on DrugHub. Bribed like this /u/hugbunter snake.
I am Desnakes!
And alex Casares
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
No you're playing dumb. Just get that paycheck from drughub so you don't have to cook another batch today you lazy fuck.
I own drughub, Im the Guy that tought Hugbuntr to code, We grew up In the same trailer park,
I also was Running bohemian For quite a whilst, untill i decided to nick ayyyyybody. Im the one writing The cheques!
/u/GungaDin
1 points
1 year ago
lololol. This genuinely did make me belly laugh.
/u/AutoModerator M
0 points
1 year ago
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/u/incog36
1 points
1 year ago
We appreciate you AutoModerator!
/u/GungaDin
1 points
1 year ago
Hey clockwerk

All in. $11k lost to Bohemia and $17.5k lost to Incognito between me and /u/The_Rabbit_Hole.

So yea. "Safe to say" is a bit of an understatement bro.

And we already paid the team their wages before we realised that transactions were clearly not gonna be paid as an added kick in the nuts to the lost coins and lost stock.

So hey could be worse right?

Hope you recover OK.

Much love
Gunga
Damn! sorry to Hear this:(
Stay safe and Keep grinding! thats All we can do. Integrity And hard work Pays off!
/u/GungaDin
1 points
1 year ago
Hey clockwerk

Spreading love is our mission. They can't stop us that easily.

Love and blessings to you and yours.

Much Love
Gunga
/u/teamdaydream
1 points
1 year ago
I can vouch that they did pay me back my money of about 4.5k (in hopes that i would probably write a positive note about them)

But i knew that they would pay back some other known vendors to try and get more business back into the market.

They never paid back anyone who they owed a ton of money to.

The design of that exit i don't think was on purpose. Alot of people got random money they werent supposed to get and im sure the market escrow became insolvent. And the admin wasnt gonna pay out his own pockets.

in my eyes hug you have no part in the bohemia drama. Don't listen to these guys lol
/u/lionsexpress
1 points
1 year ago
In what timeframe? How did they pay it back to you? Did you start a ticket? Please elaborate as it might help some people out
/u/teamdaydream
1 points
1 year ago
I went on vacation a month before all the major issues to clear my escrow because of all the issues.

Got down to my last 4.5k left on the market and the withdrawal got stuck. After about 2 weeks or a months (it wasnt soon at all) i actually got my 4.5k withdrawal.

But i already knew what was up. They were insolvent. they ended up sending $ to ppl that it wasnt supposed to go to. Probably totaling millions.

I imagine like the "fake" admin post stated after bohemia that they were trying to pay off withdrawals with peoples deposits. But no one was going to use the market again.

In the end it could have been a really shitty way to do an exit scam. But seems like people are creating new ways to do it!
/u/GungaDin
1 points
1 year ago
Hey teamdaydream

Sadly we were one of the "anyone who they owed a ton of money to".

They paid out one withdrawal, then not the next, paid next withdrawal, not the following...

Then said it was payment system issues. Then said it was a rogue mod. And so on.

We stopped vending there before it was 100% confirmed but still lost a shit tonne of coin getting strung along for a bit like the idealistic dummies we are.

Like you said bro. A new and creative way to exit. A ponzi scheme.

They were doing some payouts and withholding others. To give dummies like us a bit of hope. While at the same time taking more deposits and using a percentage to make other payouts to string people along.

Likely they made more than the straight up exit that Incognito did. But who knows.

I do not believe for a second that they were ever trying to recover. It was a smokescreen to keep piling up those coins. Fuckers.

Glad *but at the same time jealous* that you came out unscathed mate. Keep on keepin on.

Much love
Gunga
/u/teamdaydream
1 points
1 year ago
Appreciated. I am well respected in my niche community and i advertise my private store on dread (not an advertisement as i dont have that authority here). I have gathered my own badass community and back in February of last year i wanted to make myself exit scam proof. Step 1 was to divert everyone away from the market. step 2 is to create a retirement plan from the dnms and thrive soley off of the exclusive community I created. took over a year to get to the point that im at but I fucking beat them bastards. If they go into my pms they will see a bunch of people getting directed away from the market.

Some people say this is the first red flag to show whos a scammer. But i in turn live by a code i wont break. Unlike these market admins. And my own trustworthiness exceeds that of any market in mine and my customers eyes.

Plan. And start now. Vendors have been given the tools for self reliance now like porn stars and onlyfans. we do have power against admins.
/u/Pun1sher
-5 points
1 year ago
These are excuses bro, I know you very good. Look to whom you are talking and then reply the truth.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
That is the truth though and Incognito also got the benefit of the doubt here, until he admitted it with the bribe attempt. I can't 100% confirm an exit until I know for sure, I can only warn on issues so users can make their own choice.
/u/Pun1sher
0 points
1 year ago
You may think the world is stupid, but not everyone is as stupid as you think. I'm telling you all this because it shows something. And I'm really telling you with a lot of love.
/u/Pun1sher
1 points
1 year ago
Even today /d/bohemia announcement is "facing serious withdraw issues" while 1 day after incognito start exiting you placed announcement "exit scam"... /d/incognito market
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago*
Because I never needed to provide an update it was assumed they were gone and there were other posts made. For the longest time I tried to keep getting vendors withdrawals sent out. Bohemia admin was even online on Jabber multiple times in the past month and logged out as soon as I messaged him. If you're seeing it in any other perspective you're wrong, I should have made a final exit scam post for them though. The difference with Incognito is he literally admitted the exit scam so I can immediately confirm it without a doubt in my mind.

Edit: To add, there would be no warning about Incognito up from me right now if he hadn't admitted it, I was 50-50 now on whether these were genuine issues or not, I think he put all his bets on being able to bribe me.
/u/Pun1sher
-1 points
1 year ago
Then are you telling me that you, who as you claim you see everything, in bohemia case you didn't see everything? There are some contradictions in what you say but of course you are not obliged to answer as I understand that you are in a difficult position.
/u/yayoblisss
2 points
1 year ago
Bro, Everyone knew or should have knew or known not to deposit to bohemia. Hugbunter did as best he could. You can't save everyone. Especially those who can't be saved. Their coin was gone, they just didn't want to accept it. Hugbunter is a fucking legend, who's saved probably 100k+ users from being exit scammed the past 7 or 8 years. No one has done more, than him in terms of helping the community and trying to minimize damage. He can't win them all and not everyone is gonna be happy but for the vast majority of us Hugbunters word is law.
/u/AutoModerator M
0 points
1 year ago
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0 points
1 year ago
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0 points
1 year ago
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/u/tokersmoker
-3 points
1 year ago*
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/u/porkypig
1 points
1 year ago
yea, weeks before this happened I was messaging vendors with simple and relevant messages and no one wrote back. Turned out the messages were going in to a vapor purgatory and when I found them on other MP, they told me about the issue with comms and never got messages, sadly I didnt confirm through other channels sooner and stayed on a week or two. lesson learned.
/u/Satoshi1312
-3 points
1 year ago*
u/hugbunter
you can't confirm 100% the exit scam. 100% is not possible, only 99.999...%. Theres always doubt. Thats why I know, that you believe a lie: incognito is not exist scamming. All believe you, u/hugbunter, but you don't know it. Knowing means 100%. But I know, that you believed the lie, that you could know it.
I know inkognito is still here and nothing is lost. Incognito are good guys and they are my friends, and they would never scam their friends.
u/hugbunter believed himself, that he can know it. u/hugbunter believed noone. Noone is police. Police is not friend. All are friends, noone is enemy.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
1 year ago
What an idiotic comment
/u/Satoshi1312
0 points
1 year ago
you can't know that they exit scammed, you can only believe that you know it.
i'll bring back incognito and all the other markets.
/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
2 points
1 year ago
Are you dumb?
/u/Satoshi1312
1 points
1 year ago
dumb means to believe they exit scammed and money is lost. illusion is what all believe. reality is what all know. i have to destroy illusion to make reality become true.
/u/Hourglass P /d/Superlist
2 points
1 year ago
We do have proof of a fucking extortion towards vendors and a bribe attempt to Hug? What do you have?
You're just unaware of the whole fucking situation
/u/Satoshi1312
1 points
1 year ago
it's not proof, it's believe. I have the logic. here it is: you have to understand all to understand the situation. you believe you have to understand the situation, to understand all. you believe the situation is all, but the situation is nothing. you believe all and understand nothing, i believe nothing and understand all. all you have to know is, that you know nothing and believe all. thats all you can know, then you will understand, that all is good and nothing is bad.
/u/LUCY_SKY_DIAMOND
-5 points
1 year ago
HugBunter IS THE DARKNET ANDREW TATE!
FIGHTS AGAINST SCAMMER AND CANNOT BE BUYED
/u/irishfella25
1 points
1 year ago
DUDE, WHAT blabbing are u on about??

hugbunter is national hero on dread!! so what exactly are u saying??