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Iran v. Israel : CafeDread | Torhoo darknet markets

As tensions between Israel and Iran rise, people need to realize that both nations are inherently bad. Israel, a genocidal government that manipulated its people and allies to commit atrocities. Iran, a government that discriminates against women and religious minorities. Both governments are bad for people, but obviously people will always take one side blindly. This is just the surface of both nations, there's much more that happens.

Israel attacked Iran and expected Iran to just take it without retaliating back. In this case, Iran had the right to defend itself. Ally nations should break ties with Israel and let them deal with the wars THEY start. At the same time, nations should also make Iran accountable for the oppression that is present within its government.

In modern times, spreading propaganda is the easiest it has ever been. There is the internet to spread the misinformation fast, artificial intelligence to produce fake news, people being paid to spread false information around, and the list goes on. It's important to always do your own research because ANYONE can be influenced by propaganda, even the smartest people around.

What are your thoughts on this take?
/u/bobsaget69420
3 points
1 month ago
Every nation is inherently bad in various ways, but it's up to you to do your diligence and learn about what stances you want to take.

While you could argue it's easier to spread misinformation and propaganda , we also have access to more information and perspectives now than we ever have in the past. So we don't need to take what we see on the news or some niche publication at face value like we did in the past.

I think what people forget about Iran and the Islamic Revolution how it started: it was covert op to put their own CIA asset in power (The Shah). The Iranian people suspicious of this, raided the CIA HQ in Iran (which at that time was a strong operating base for the USA for all Middle-East affairs) to confirm their findings.

With the help of Israel, one of the goals of the USA is to extract resources from these nations by overthrowing governments/leaders. All under the false premise of "liberation".

Personally, it's sickening to see the heinous acts carried out. I appreciate that we can look at things with nuance, but it is bothersome to see people I know from Israel who believe that this all started on October 7th.

I'm (obviously) leaving a lot out and there's a shit ton to unpack here. Question everything, do your own research. No nation is ethnocentric, don't believe that one group "is on the right side of history" or the "chosen ones". We are all equal, even if our social structures try to force not to be.
/u/arcaneworld 📢
2 points
1 month ago
Great analysis.
/u/cthulhuskittens
2 points
1 month ago
phrasing it "people need to realize" guarantees you will win no one to your position, though it's more valid than the usual media take. however, suggesting a moral equivalency between a genocidal rogue state that was created as an organized crime front & has spent its entire existence picking fights with its neighbors while trying to steal their shit (israel) & an ancient culture that hasn't started a war in centuries & whose regrettable theocratic government only exists bc the US regime-changed their democratically-elected government half a century ago leaving them not much of a choice in the matter if they wanted to live under anything other than a puppet regime (iran) is disingenuous at best.

tl;dr i hope both nations get exactly what they deserve ;)
/u/gringo
1 points
1 month ago
Can we just stop talking about Iran's nuclear program - since Iran no longer has a nuclear program?
/u/bobsaget69420
1 points
1 month ago
History repeats itself.
/u/gringo
1 points
1 month ago
I'll be long dead long before this history repeats itself.
/u/bobsaget69420
1 points
1 month ago
It already has been brother.
/u/AntiPirate
1 points
1 month ago
I think you are pretty much on point...

Iran is a shithole theocracy that needs reforming and de-islamifying. The govt is an insult to the rich heratige and history of Persia, and how it overcame the greatest real holocaust of all time by Jengis Khan.

But israel has a very very heavy blood debt to pay and deserves to pay it. No one should interfiere with its payment. There is a reason these vampires got kicked out of 109 countries but no one else has. And its not because everyone lese is racist. Thats like a woman saying she’s had 109 bf’s and they all were wife-beating savages while she was the perfect angel.
/u/c2shiningc
1 points
3 weeks ago*
so whyd they kicked from 109 countries??? if this isnt about 'racism'
/u/AntiPirate
1 points
3 weeks ago
how are 109 countries going to be magically racist against ONLY them? Why would they not also ban others?
/u/c2shiningc
1 points
3 weeks ago*
a quick google search tells me around x40-50 over 1,500 years. you tell me why. that is ur reason? lmao. maybe ur just mad at the world.
google is gay. use mojeek,, etools.ch, yacy, metager, gigablast, peekier, searx.me, etc..... instead.

... also: jewgle* ftfy

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google is gay. use mojeek,, etools.ch, yacy, metager, gigablast, peekier, searx.me, etc..... instead.

... also: jewgle* ftfy

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/u/c2shiningc
1 points
3 weeks ago
jewgle
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
1 month ago
Oh no! The people who call me goyim are fighting the people who call me infidel!

Make some fucking popcorn.
/u/gexpress
1 points
1 month ago
I just hope it doesnt affect my ability to get my stuff :/
/u/biosphere P
-8 points
1 month ago
I think you're a cheap Hamas bitch.
If crazy bearded old men are constantly threatening to exterminate all Jews, they should not be surprised that the Israel Defense Forces have come to kill them.
Israel will destroy all its enemies and establish durable peace in the region.
All hail Israel!
/u/arcaneworld 📢
2 points
1 month ago
My post was not biased towards either side, but I'll remind you that on average Israel has a war every 5 years. Search the truth yourself, do not take sides blindly.
/u/biosphere P
-2 points
1 month ago
I'm an Israeli citizen.
You don't have tell me stupid stories about “aggressive Israel”.
/u/TheDrugDocket
1 points
1 month ago*
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"No matter how paranoid you are, what they're actually doing is worse than you can possibly imagine."

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/u/dodgydave99
2 points
1 month ago
Cry 6 millions tears you genocidal cunt. Free Palestine
Another six million believer

Man people are brainwashed
/u/dodgydave99
4 points
1 month ago
I'm not mate,far from it.Their 6 million bullshit has always been part of their folklore,and can be found in their literature long before ww2.The whole holocaust bullshit collapses at the slightest bit of digging,which is why laws are being used to force that shit down people throat.But not mine
Good. I was worried for a minute there.
/u/dodgydave99
1 points
1 month ago
We're all good,I'm more into Hugo Boss uniforms,tiny mustaches and funny looking crosses.I'll happily slap a yellow star on every single one of them given half a chance.
/u/biosphere P
-3 points
1 month ago
My brothers are working right now to liberate Palestine from Hamas.
Say hello to Nasrallah when you meet him!
/u/dodgydave99
1 points
1 month ago
There's a famous picture you ought to look at,it's a bunch of jews at a Palestinian port displaying a banner saying something along the lines of 'don't destroy our hopes' or some shit of the sort.How things have changed.I get why you are the only race to get booted out of 109 countries over the course of centuries.
Don't confuse me for an arab by the way,I'm not.I hate you both equally but there's no denying that you jesus killers/satan worshippers are in the wrong for a change and seem quite happy to kickstart ww3.