Kingdom Market has likely been seized by law enforcement : KingdomMarket

3 points

1 year ago*

Due to some questions if the seizure banner is authentic (the provided URL to bka is returning 404). Let's call our resident LEA for verification, /u/ncidetf care to provide some clarity? Authentic or a social engineering attempt?

Edit: Official release on BKA website. https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTkzZDNjdVltdGhMbVJsTDBSRkwxQnlaWE56WlM5TWFYTjBaVzV6WldsMFpWOVFjbVZ6YzJWdGFYUjBaV2xzZFc1blpXNHZNakF5TXk5UWNtVnpjMlV5TURJekx6SXpNVEl5TUY5UVRWOUVZWEpyYm1WMFgwdHBibWRrYjIxZlRXRnlhMlYwTG1oMGJXdz0=#

/u/NCIDETF

2 points

1 year ago

Definitely legit, but we were not involved.

/u/[deleted]

6 points

1 year ago

/u/ncidetf reply you worthless sack of shit

/u/codeless

5 points

1 year ago

They're probably in some sort of sugar coma from gorging on Christmas pumpkin spice donuts, we should send them some coke to wake them up a bit.

/u/BigDaddy2K

1 points

1 year ago

LMAO surely

/u/NCIDETF

2 points

1 year ago

thants

/u/TheNumber3

1 points

1 year ago

you got a piece of donut stuck under your K key?

/u/newyork81

1 points

1 year ago

right

/u/Borislav

2 points

1 year ago

It's possible they simply faked a seizure as a creative method of exit scamming, but given the confusion around a possible attack just hours before it happened, who knows. It's the same time of year that Monopoly got taken down though. German police like to keep themselves busy at Christmas time perhaps??

/u/Kuja

1 points

1 year ago

Crazy!! you never no what's really happening in these streets.

/u/OneMoreLight

1 points

1 year ago*

I'm skeptical on the basis that the website was online for several hours before going dark. The initial captcha page and such were all online, but the login portal was down.

I don't know the ins and outs of how darknet websites work, but would the entire service not go down all at once if taken down by law enforcement? The website page on the image doesn't exist either. Surely, if seized, they would ensure that the BKA link was online, or at minimum, make a press announcement?

I've felt uneasy from the moment this was posted considering the market admins - that we're aware of - were posting on Dread for 1/2 days before suddenly disappearing. I thought they were arrested?

If this turns out to be an exit scam, so close to Christmas, then all I can say is pathetic.

/u/FokkingFire420

1 points

1 year ago

It's not known (yet) who has been arrested. Paris stated that 'multiple individuals, which had sufficient server access' were arrested. That could be anyone from the dev team.

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

You do not really believe that /u/ncidetf is legit, no?

/u/Paris 📢 A

2 points

1 year ago

Not sure I understand what you mean but /u/ncidetf is run by an agent. You can verify their message /post/9480146d1fb9b39a91a2/#c-915cc2b2cb03172e55 with the one from their onion.

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

This is a shit poster account, this is not real, the domain and onions are made by a shit poster as well

/u/Paris 📢 A

2 points

1 year ago

If this is true, that's the biggest and longest troll I have ever seen in my life. That onion has been posting updates for YEARS about the vendors they got. The site was released in 2019. It's the same PGP key all the way. Same fingerprint that was validated on dread too just with a different user id validation date (common practice for government agencies). If this is a troll that is just crazy.

/u/CodeIsLaw

1 points

1 year ago

If I remember correctly in the Beginning it also had an Identified Vendor list where they would move them over to the Arrested Vendor Side after they were Arrested.

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

Ncide definitely did have such a list and a particular xanax bar vendor was listed on the list yet continued doing business. When I informed him about it he laughed and stated that his bars are flualp and he is fine.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

hahaha i know who you're talking about me...I was using him at the time, and he told me that he wasn't worried because they had only "narrowed down his location to somewhere between "X" and "Y".....X and Y were very close. I stopped ordering after that.

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

Actually I was not talking about you. I just got a bad case of benzo memory and can't remember that vendors name. I had posted directly to him and he literally replied to me as mentioned above. Now I can read your review history to recall the name!!!!!

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

Oh no haha i just re-read what i wrote...i must have been benzo brained cuz i didnt mean to say me....i just meant i think i know what vendor you were speaking of and then talked about how the vendor tried to brush it off to me too like it wasnt a big deal....im thinking of xanaxusa aka therealxanaxusa...used to sell pressed single G's that were pretty popular for a while.

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

Yes, that was indeed the vendor name.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

Also i dont think i ever reviewed him but who knows i might have....he was on the "under suspicion" list for most of his vendor career

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

He had been vending for a while before I saw Ncide advertise their list. He does seem to have disappeared however.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

Ya he had knock out "alp" bars when i first ordered and then he either started selling flualp or he got caught falsely claiming alp and admited to the flualp...i cant remember which

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

I believe that he started with real alp and transitioned when it because increasingly difficult to source. I could be wrong which would explain why his bars always smacked.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

I tend to believe you are correct. He charged like 23 bucks per bar or more and only advertised smaller portions early on when he advertised alp bars and i think those were the real deal. At some point something changed as did his prices

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

In the next episode of where are they now! I wonder if he retired, rebranded, or got caught.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

Hahah that would be a cool subdread actually...get the internet investigators to work together and locate all the vendors that fucked the community over.... GBUSA would be severely screwed if anyone ever de-anonymized them

/u/simplyfortuna

0 points

1 year ago

They did, no way its fake. They knew too much information before arrests for it to be a troll

/u/IntelExchange

1 points

1 year ago

Most FBI email addresses start with the subdomain ic.fbi.gov. If it's a troll, then they had me convinced and I've been here since the start of Wikileaks accepting Bitcoin...

/u/simplyfortuna

1 points

1 year ago

archetyp is probably thinking of the time he spent hours being trolled by a fake ncidetf account on jabber and made an announcement that they were doing an AMA. Now he's just talking shit about the real account

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

We both know which alt is yours are and we both know why you say this.

/u/motleycruise

1 points

1 year ago

it would be crazy (but amusing) if this was a troll! They knew about busts literally before anyone (bossoftherock being 1 of them) and thecommission (well, the commission we all knew about. about a dozen people here had Package Seized on ID because he was busted while dropping off packages)

/u/NCIDETF

2 points

1 year ago

Feel free to email me at the official address listed on our onion.

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

2 points

1 year ago

I have sent an excel file, it contains our sales statistics, can you check if we are the #1?

/u/CodeIsLaw

1 points

1 year ago

You could always email ncidetf@fbi.gov and ask them lol, it's their listed Contact email on the site.

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

3 points

1 year ago

You can also message me at BigBossChefOfArchetyp@fbi.gov

/u/BonkerExpress

1 points

1 year ago

whahahah

/u/Shakybeats M

1 points

1 year ago

I posted these once a long time ago. Looks like he deleted almost everything, but a journalist once emailed the fbi to confirm if that was the real ncide website. They confirmed it was if you want to believe him.

https://nitter.dark.fail/5auth/status/1137876904835502080#m
https://nitter.dark.fail/5auth/status/1137957120182296576#m

/u/Paris /u/codeislaw

/u/CodeIsLaw

1 points

1 year ago

Yeah, I have no doubt that it's them. I remember even back when they were on a V2 URL.

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

1 year ago

Definitely many questions. When has LE ever posted a pgp signed message on the subdread of a seized market announcing the seizure? I am thinking never.

Bonus banner: https://dump.li/image/get/ec13a4baf6dacfc9.jpeg

/u/fan_of_dread

1 points

1 year ago

I'm sorry, but what is bka? is that german law enforcement. Please forgive my ignorance. I looked it up and that's all I can find but I can't imagine you have a contact with the german BKA lol

/u/ZebbHB

1 points

1 year ago

BKA stands for Bundeskriminalamt - in english: Federal Crime(scene) Bureau. So it's like the FBI just from germany.

/u/42069

1 points

1 year ago

DarkNetLive already reported about it:
https://darknetlive.com/post/german-authorities-seized-kingdom-market-b5bee1b3

Including the taunting post by BKA:
/post/3bdfdddd50302f94dcee

So far, it's clear that Bill Alan was just criminally neglectful in terms of ITsec, InfoSec, OpSec and ComSec that he should get time just for being such an idiot!

/u/Heinous

1 points

1 year ago

resident lea? wtf?

/u/Paris 📢 A

2 points

1 year ago

It should come to the surprise of nobody that a public forum like dread has LEA on it. It's public. We always urge people to protect themselves and never post their personal information on here. You shouldn't trust us. But you also shouldn't need to.

/u/FokkingFire420

0 points

1 year ago

/u/ninja found this article. Makes it seem it's legit. Sadly it's behind a paywall. Not success in surpassing it.
https://www.offshorealert(dot)com/usa-v-alan-bill-criminal-complaint-kingdom-market-crypto-darknet-marketplace/

/u/ridiculz

1 points

1 year ago

This is just a pay for announcement/article website. Seems even more suss now.

/u/Ninja

2 points

1 year ago

i'm not convinced, no one should have to pay to access a criminal complaint. let's see what information comes out, with time.

/u/FokkingFire420

1 points

1 year ago

Oh damn shitt for real. Well that changes it again. Back to waiting for an official announcement by BKA

/u/FallenKingdom

-3 points

1 year ago

/u/Paris check again

/u/Oz_Wide

15 points

1 year ago

This right here is why you never use a markets pgp encryption system to encrypt your addresses.

/u/johnshade

2 points

1 year ago

Fuckin-a tweety.

I'd PGP-encrypt all content of every message, but I know it annoys vendors.

/u/Salome

2 points

1 year ago

I believe it is also important to add this caveat:

Do NOT write your address and encrypt it in the onionsite's notes/address field, either, if you're using plugins that allow in-place encryption of text. Use a text editor and copy/paste the encrypted output directly into the field instead.

Yes, there are few ways to dynamically sniff the data in those text fields, but it's absolutely not impossible (even in a NoScript + Tor + Tails environment).

Other than that, we really ought to do some public awareness of our own. For example, about 2 new markets pop up for every one seized. They're also one of the few means of getting pharmaceuticals that aren't tainted (if you research and pay for that "privilege"). And cartels aren't funded quite as readily.

Not to mention the whole "enforcing your will via state resources to stop people from doing things with their own bodies", but that's getting a bit too political for most.

But we definitely need a counter-propaganda arm. Hell, we could even fund representatives with clean cash if we organized well enough.

/u/Ohnoerman

1 points

1 year ago

A little confused by what you're saying. Are you saying that you shouldn't rely on PGP plug-ins on sites (which I would never do and is extremely lazy -- always use PGP yourself) or saying not to type plaintext in the text field then copy > encrypt > replace plaintext with PGP? As in they can sniff what's in the textbox without ever hitting a submit button? Wouldn't there be signs of that, and isn't that the point of disabling Javascript?

/u/Alohaamigo

2 points

1 year ago

That was my takeaway from their comment as well - copy paste from pgp, as opposed to using the sites encryption or a plugin. I agree this seems like info most users should know but it is always good to spell these things out as many users don't fully grasp how these things work.

/u/BlackCubeMythos

1 points

1 year ago

"But it's so convenient and pgp so complicated!"

/u/THEBAREFOOT

6 points

1 year ago

if you feel pgp is COMP. then this is not the place for you an you will not last long

/u/[deleted]

3 points

1 year ago

[removed]

/u/SlowLorus

3 points

1 year ago*

NGL... it took me a while to get it. Off and on over the course of 3 days.
Looking back, I really can't fathom how I found it so complicated to begin with :scratches head:
Thankfully, I didn't give up and go down the online route (e.g. iGolder) which was suggested to me at the time.

/u/Shadow_Commander

1 points

1 year ago

[removed]

/u/cobrajet428

6 points

1 year ago

Dude I wouldnt use darknet markets on a phone. At a practical level the captchas are going to be really small and hard to see. I use a laptop with a 15" screen and bohemia's captchas I have to save the image, open it in another app and view it at 200% to see it. I cant imagine trying to do that on a tiny phone screen.

More importantly phones are much more accessable by law enforcement. Ive seen quite a few cases in the news where they say "the subject was under investigation so they got a warrant to access their phone..". Im not saying thats still not possible with a small hardened linux setup like tails, but its alot harder and ive personally never read about a case where it happened. I would think if it happened to someone that person or perhaps their friends (you shouldnt tell anyone your buying from the darkweb but if your in a small town in the midwest and show up at your buddies house with a ball of opium it doesnt take a DEA agent to figure out the local dealer didnt suddenly get a direct middle east hookup) would of told people about their case.

Take $100 and buy a used PC or laptop and use tails.

The VPN isnt really protecting you like you think it is. Tor is already hiding your identity.

/u/NoFear1981

-8 points

1 year ago

Dude pc and laptops are more easier and vulnerable to be hacked.And using vpn with wifi connection will hide your identity with a android phone. Specailly a phone thats not activated and you only use wifi. Its easier to track your i.p on a pc and laptop

/u/sudoapt

1 points

1 year ago

PGP only protects the communications from being intercepted while in transit. If the end user itself is compramised, not much can be done about it.

/u/SlowLorus

1 points

1 year ago

Yeah... I figure that's the risk we all take, hoping that the vendor has tight OPSEC and doesn't save decrypted order details.

/u/CampfireWillie

6 points

1 year ago

I just do not understand (and likely never will) WHY governments (supposed to be working for the people and the greater good) continue to spend MILLIONS of our taxpayer dollars to go after and shut down the SAFEST and LEAST DANGEROUS (assuming you are not a schmuck and do your homework, research, and tests etc.) ways that THE PEOPLE created to be able to sell and trade things that 99% are for personal use anyway and be able to do it safely, and without harming others.

Sometimes I feel like they shut these sites down for the corporations that own the politicians. (I.E. BIG pharma)

It has become obvious to me as of late that most of the "BAD" and "DANGEROUS" aspects of illegal drugs come directly from the fact that they are illegal. From Cartels fighting to innocent children taking a Xanex that was actually fentayl. People hiding behind locked doors to use and dealing with shady dealers in the streets.

What good comes from these sites being shut down?

I am asking sincerely if anyone has a good argumet, I am open to listening and learning.

I just can not see any valid reason for governments to continue this unwinnable and RIDICULOUS "war on drugs"

People WANT DRUGS, and likely ALL OF THEM do on some level, wether they admit it or not.

It has gotten to te point where there is more HARM in keeping them illegal at this point than regulating and taxing them like the least dangerous drug of all tme.

ALCOHOL

smh

That says it all I think. Hey at least in 2023 no one is going BLIND from it being illegal like a hundred years ago!!!!

/u/Viatrice

3 points

1 year ago

The admin of Archetyp wrote a long, well thought out letter addressed to law enforcement and other interested parties. Worth reading as it echoes the same points you're making.
As for the reason and logic behind all this? Old school politics and racism. Plain and simple. It's practically embedded in our culture now as Northern Americans. Lock up the drug dealers, ship off the druggies to rehab, war war war. America is always at war with something or someone. When we got too bored fighting hippies with guns we invaded Iraq for some oil.

/u/JankyCoyote

4 points

1 year ago

I feel that post missed a very major point: the war on drugs isn't about making things safer or even going after criminals. You can cry about the hypocricy all you want and they don't care because the stated goals were never the actual goals. It's about justifying the ability to go after whoever they want. It has been, since it's very inception, a tool focused on disrupting groups that are, or might pose, a disruptive threat to keeping power with those who already have it.

/u/dairytopping

1 points

1 year ago

I don't know but don't waste your time trying to figure it out because you won't get anywhere.

/u/klysmaklown

1 points

1 year ago

Exactly this.. they are the same kind of people who worked over hours to make sure all trains would ride on schedule during WW2, safely behind their desks, because "rules are rules"

/u/fatzor

1 points

1 year ago

the word government comes from the latin phrase govern mentis, govern meaning control and mentis meaning mind..

Doesnt look too promising in terms of them representing the public

/u/[deleted]

4 points

1 year ago

Another one bites the dust.

/u/IcyGrape Kingdom's Vendor

4 points

1 year ago

Merry Christmas

/u/BlackCubeMythos

2 points

1 year ago

Based

/u/IcyGrape Kingdom's Vendor

2 points

1 year ago

Christmas based merriment

/u/Anchorzin

1 points

1 year ago

Terrible Christmas lol

/u/Amaretto

2 points

1 year ago

Always look on the bright side of life.

/u/dreadonthehead

3 points

1 year ago

The compromise was allowing the use of Bitcoin and litecoin. Can we stop doing this

/u/0verdosed

3 points

1 year ago*

Tried to warn everyone....

Kingdom Market scammed me
Warned many vendors not to conduct business here but they did anyways...

No market that runs PR accounts on reddit have any form of legitimacy nor should be on any Superlist

/u/nothowireadit

1 points

1 year ago

bro the two incidents are not related though....

/u/OFhyperbolicx

3 points

1 year ago

OK BUT WERE IS /u/hugbunter

/u/CodeIsLaw

2 points

1 year ago

/post/6edaae37e6b0346b384d/#c-18cfce61a0ae287eba

Thought so.

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

Your intel is interesting, I suspect you to be ...

/u/CodeIsLaw

1 points

1 year ago

I predict Incognito next. They had a "Server Failure" in the same week almost.

/u/Odlyevenrecover

2 points

1 year ago

incognito aint goin nowhere

/u/CodeIsLaw

2 points

1 year ago*

You could be right, It's just my feeling on the situation, Let's remember they own not Only a Market, they own Email Services, Forum, Antinalysis and other shit, Also i found a persistent XSS in their Libre Forum that was probably there for Months (Hugbunter got them to pay me a bounty) So if they made 1 Serious mistake, how many others did they make? A persistent XSS is not just a Minor bug, it's just lucky I am the one that found it and never used it against them. That and the timing of the Server Failures so close to Kingdom Markets is my reasoning for thinking that.

/u/TORganix P Kingdom`s Vendor

1 points

1 year ago

I agree with your sentiment.

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

Server failure = Imaged server and now its being monitored are we going to see dark market 2.0?

/u/CodeIsLaw

1 points

1 year ago

Yeah sometimes they might just take Images of the Drives and watch and wait, I had a weird feeling for the last couple of weeks something was happening. I was literally going to post a few days ago saying Which Market will get seized before Christmas? then I backtracked out of posting it. Weird for sure.

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

Well I never wish jail on anyone but god damn I hope we get information on mistakes and how everything has happened.

/u/johnshade

1 points

1 year ago

What prompted the weird feeling?

I've had a weird feeling today with Incognito, because of a vendor's very unusual activity, or lack thereof. It's convoluted to explain why I sensed something weird, and it's just a feeling that is probably nothing.

It remains unexplained, however, with the vendor still nowhere to be found, contrary to their habit and stated policy.

/u/twinns1711

2 points

1 year ago

I had a vendor that claims to be a long time vendor from several other markets send me a package with signature confirmation. This is an extra cost to the person shipping, so it couldn't have done by mistake. He then tried to blame me for it. Of course, no one signed for it and it will be returned somewhere, but it just seemed really weird to me how it all played out. i'm leaving out a few details to remain anonymous

/u/NoJSDev1

1 points

1 year ago

How can you detect if they make images of the drives?

/u/299000kms

2 points

1 year ago

Fuck. I placed a large order 12 hours before it went down, guess that $$'s lost.

Where do we move now? Incognito? Abacus?

/u/B1llJ0nez

1 points

1 year ago

I'd recommend checking out Archetyp. They do things a bit differently & I've never had any issues whatsoever, after dozens of transactions (I'm a buyer only) Good luck!

/u/lionsexpress

1 points

1 year ago

Incognito and Archetyp are your best bet, although Incognito is kind of annoying to use

/u/[deleted]

2 points

1 year ago

God hates feds

/u/MandarksBankLab Baron of Kingdom

2 points

1 year ago

Well i wish i withdrew the funds ! Ya'll wont believe if i say the amount i lost.

/u/Habibmia

1 points

1 year ago

how much ??

/u/[deleted]

2 points

1 year ago

It is so sad, I can say that was one of the top markets

/u/swordfish

2 points

1 year ago

Imagine what you could invest the resources in, if you just gave up this unwinnable war on drugs?
Prohibition does not and will not ever work.

/u/16Lines

1 points

1 year ago

Indeed, it will never work

/u/247365

2 points

1 year ago

AVOID NEMESIS // KINGDOM

/u/wellthatisaliloff

2 points

1 year ago

/u/wellthatisaliloff 🍼 1 points
9 minutes ago
Hey,

Find this seizure banner very suspicious to say the least....

1 - its just an image not a live web site.. it contains no hyperlinks excuse me if I am incorrect but I thought they were always a proper page.
2 - The "fallen kingdom" is highly unprofessional, I couldn't see a police force paying a graphic designer to create a new logo
3 - Who contacted Paris with the exact info so early....
4 - Please if you visit the site view the page source, the seiazure notice is just one image.... this is looking pretty suspicious and it will look bad if this is the case for Dread... real bad....

Look I dont see any reason for the admins to go to such extremes for an exit scam but that seizure notice looks as authentic as my ADIDAZ SNAP PANTS.

/u/SickOfiTALL

2 points

1 year ago

so useless! kingdom is going down, 10 other markets reopening... the fact that this campaign was carried out shortly before christmas holidays tells me that the government waited until as much sales as possible were in the wallets.

above all, what does this action bring? now they searching servers for fingerprints but every reasonably intelligent vendor encrypts his transactions, so they can't get any big fish with such actions anyway. those who get fucked are mainly customers... and who are the customers? usually drug addicts, i.e. people who don't lead an easy life anyway. that's like going out on the streets and charging homeless fines for sleeping outside. our society is completely screwed,

consumers who are addicted and have no other options because of their addiction are criminalized and their lives are destroyed by the goverment. It's not the addict who destroys his life with drugs, it's the goverment that destroys the addict through completely idiotic handling of the issue of drug addiction. 2024 and our society is still at the level from 1960 when it comes to the topix drugs.

/u/WhatIsGoingOn

1 points

1 year ago

that is why you should not do drugs in the first place.

/u/OFhyperbolicx

2 points

1 year ago

SIR THIS A WENDYS !!!

/u/paperworkmafia

2 points

1 year ago

russians operating CLEARNET sites for decades without many issues of shutdown
lol yet our anonymous .onion domains killed monthly

sounds like we need to get some russians coding our sites down here

/u/partytime

2 points

1 year ago

Sad to see this happen, mates, as always with any market. Here's hoping there are minimum repurcussions to buyers and vendors alike. So much for my Christmas visit starting out with a fun post. :(

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

Well well well AlexanderTheGreat falls again.

/u/MySonIsDoctor

1 points

1 year ago

Is he still around? I figured feds would have busted his ass by now.

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

well he was the admin of this market so ... I dont wish jail/busted for anyone as much as hes a troll I generally hope he didnt get caught

/u/Odlyevenrecover

1 points

1 year ago

Yikes.. Was Kinda Thinkin' That Was The Case The Way It's Just Been Ghosted And Not Much Said About It..

/u/McCuntos

1 points

1 year ago

I was always sus on Kingdom...

/u/DIIIII

1 points

1 year ago

It's almost like there is a reason this shit market was never listed on dark.fail and tor.taxi

/u/MoneroOnMyMind

1 points

1 year ago

Thanks Paris. I appreciate the timely update.

/u/Brocsampson

1 points

1 year ago

It’s weird, my last order they were doing a sale for FE. I got 4grams of blow for $140. I couldn’t pass it up. The vender was one I’d used before so I trusted them. I received my order today so I wouldn’t have been able to release the funds. I hadn’t seen do a FE sale before.

/u/supermariotm P

1 points

1 year ago

It can be possible haven't had any reply from support for 13 days.

/u/sesquipedalian

1 points

1 year ago

RIP. updates on Hug?

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

Is /u/OhLongJohnson busted as well?

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

One of them is Alexanderthegreat probably going to ask you to get a job at arche now :) Think the main dev is the one that is caught

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

Oh well, do you by any chance know how many users and vendors the Kingdom had?

/u/crackheaddom101 P

1 points

1 year ago

<50k no more vendors no more than 1000

/u/topshelf-uk Kingdom's Vendor

1 points

1 year ago

Wounded. Just finished setting up the listings the other day.

I'll get on you tomorrow mate.

/u/darkflight Kingdom's Vendor

1 points

1 year ago

😭I'm just like you, mate

/u/FuckIsrael

1 points

1 year ago

I don't want to create FUD but so call this hearsay I heard his account and private PGP was compromised.

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

2 points

1 year ago

Oh well, he was always friendly, sucks for him.

/u/0verdosed

1 points

1 year ago

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp

If you take a peek over on their public reddit page (Yes they use reddit as a form of PR and were supporting customers there too)
papinian3's account has been 'Deleted' and OhLongJohnsons account is not.

Just something I thought was kind of interesting how/why would papinians account be deleted

/u/BigBossChefOfArchetyp P

1 points

1 year ago

Thanks! Yes it's interesting.

/u/goldfeesh333commador

1 points

1 year ago

Make sure you guys remove them from the superlist when you get a sec

/u/rxsub Viscount of Kingdom

1 points

1 year ago

thank you for the information....

/u/Habibmia

1 points

1 year ago

Well thank god i aint sell on there im already having bad luck with other sites this year. Anybody thats fleeing from there and looking for a new coke vendor check me out on Archetype or Abacus ill take care of u .

/u/sausages

1 points

1 year ago

watching

/u/cylon66

1 points

1 year ago

Seems like we'll be hearing about the next Operation SpecTOR soon. I wonder how long it'll take them to start making vendor arrests.

/u/gonnagoforit P

1 points

1 year ago

Considering people are probably catching on to what is happening now, very soon. Wouldn't be surprised if some arrests and door knocking hasn't already happened.

/u/HolgiFrom74

1 points

1 year ago

Echt schade ... hab' jetzt seit fast 2 Jahren via Kingdom Market geshoppt und natürlich da auch meine Stamm Vendors. Der Markt war super stabil, nie offline, alles lief wie geschmiert. Vor allem schade um meinen Vendor für Amphe, der ist sonst nirgends aktiv, zumindest noch nicht. What a shame ... und wieder geht einer off und der nächste on.

/u/OneMoreLight

1 points

1 year ago

Hope this turns out to be false, but full trust in Dread staff. I noticed the login page was down for several hours before the whole site went totally offline.
They also mentioned Sunday they would be back within 24 hours, but that has come and long gone.

My most recent purchase, the seller hadn't accepted the order for several days so I was intending to cancel it and take my money back. Never lost money on a DNM before but here we are. By far the best market in my opinion.

/u/weepingwillow

1 points

1 year ago

fuck and i had bets that they were gonna exit scam

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

This is the main incentive for markets to exit scam.

/u/RechardSport Kingdom's Knight

1 points

1 year ago

Bad news!
The market has been down for 2days, so I back to dread and saw this news!
Fortunately about 2k USD fund in escrow has been released recently.
I always stop accepting new orders when the escrow fund is over $500.
Here is my personal suggestion for vendors based on several years' experience in darknet:
Just consider your escrow fund as they will be lost, fix a threshold that you can afford to lost.
Just reject new orders when the escrow fund is over your threshold and the customers are not willing to FE.
Record the customer's username and contact them back when you are ready to accept new orders.
This is how I survive in darknet markets for several years.

/u/AvantGarde Knight of Kingdom

1 points

1 year ago

Do we know where they were based country wise and what law enforcement arrest them, FBI, Soccer, Dutch police etc. Also do you think they will be arresting vendors soon?

/u/Cuckoobird Kingdom`s Vendor

1 points

1 year ago

moment of silcence for my $400 escrow funds . hopfuly no one was busted and it was only the domain seized? idk if thats how things work

/u/dairytopping

1 points

1 year ago

"multiple individuals, which had sufficient server access to Kingdom's infrastructure, have been arrested by law enforcement"

I think it's safe to assume that most, if not all, operators are sitting in a cell right now.

/u/SMACKERS Marquess of Kingdom

1 points

1 year ago

sad. much money lost. not first, not last time. deep breath. life goes on

/u/Rez

1 points

1 year ago

I know how you feel, it's just how it is. Hope you are able to deal with it. So much scams now, we need to decentralize like many others have said.

/u/DMTeam Knight of Kingdom

1 points

1 year ago

/u/KyleKlemons54

1 points

1 year ago

Never was on Kingdom. But I will ensure to pass this news along.

/u/lowblowjoe

1 points

1 year ago

all those captcha hoops for nothing

/u/lowblowjoe

0 points

1 year ago

at least we still have bohemia

/u/hathat

1 points

1 year ago

Germany is not mad..they're just disappointed.

/u/asfaleia

1 points

1 year ago

It could be also quite possible that a market that uses an on-site-PGP-encryption and accepts BTC (Was this the case?) can easily be run by the adversaries themselves. Remember the Anom and Encrochat - a perfect honeypot game. It could be an interesting free game hunt, cheap honeypot to just run the DNM and let the people compromise themselves without any action from the side of the adversaries.

Lets see the development.

/u/OneMoreLight

1 points

1 year ago

/u/dannyboys claim to know them personally on this post /post/6edaae37e6b0346b384d. I'm 99.9% positive it's bullshit based off their post history but still.

/u/VanNess

1 points

1 year ago

nooooooo #sad

/u/MyChaiLatte

1 points

1 year ago

do we know how the police got em?

/u/WMCyberCrime

1 points

1 year ago

West Midlands Regional Cyber Crime Unit has executed multiple warrants and arrested the operators of InnocentExtractss operating on Incognito. A number of customers were identified who had recently ordered from the vendor; we will be in touch with you soon.

The news article detailing the arrests can be viewed on the West Midlands Police's website

/u/WebRider75955d

1 points

1 year ago

Hi guys, can you list the functioning and interesting markets? Thanks

/u/alimohammed

1 points

1 year ago

please which dark web is currently working i have search and cant find.

/u/igrowswiss P Kingdom's Vendor

2 points

1 year ago

allahakhbar.onion

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

THis is getting stranger by the minute, I am not going to pretend I know whats going on so please help...

as I understand it, market is seized and the admins are free? because I read a post that they were active within the past 24 hours... then I see a signed pgp message apperently on DREAD from LE using the admind accounts showing off announcing they seized the market. How would this be possible... I mean honestly if you write down your PGP password you dont belong running a market, if the admins were arrested the logical explanation is that LE could only recieve your PGP details if you provided them, and once again you dont belong in the criminal world full stop if you dont understand only self harm can be achieved by speaking to LE and handin these private keys over would be like sahying im already gettting screwed hard enough, but lets turn it into a gangbang and dont supply the vasoline.... Just makes more sense that they havent really been seized and they are pretending to be LE.... WHY WOULD they do this ?? perhaps to stop vendor investigation into stolen funds... I dont know can someone please guide me?? Also I have heard there is main stream news coverage could someone please provide me links (use messages to do so as clearnet links not taken to kindly by the public of DN)

Also were is /u/HugBunter ?? You are the security expert of the DN and we all follow the rules you teach us so I expect you to be tip of the spear when it comes to the intel.

/u/transxex

1 points

1 year ago

This is a clear exit scam.

kingdommarket.so now after some seconds redirects to kingdom-mkt-seized.com, http://kingdom-mkt-seized.com/Kingdom%20Domain%20Seizure.svg which has clown "seizure" photo which further differs from the previous one.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

people i rang the BKA and i take back what i previously said about it being a fake seizure... it appears to be true, I didnt record the convo as this would be illegal.... The gentlemen who answered the phone never agreed or denied the seizure but he did state he was aware of what i was talking about.... So i guess its true and now I feel comfortable to write my article for the my clearnet news site....

thanks guys

/u/realchemsupplier Kingdom`s Vendor

1 points

1 year ago

hmm i can't just believe this

/u/DrMonster

1 points

1 year ago

Sad day for kingdom :( :(

/u/fan_of_dread

1 points

1 year ago

Also, someone mentioned if you have proper OPSEC you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
Here's what I do. Boot tails from stick, connect to tor. Configure settings to "safest".
As a second line of defense, I even do the about:config to make sure javascript is off (Oddly enough, it is usually still on even when I set my browser to safest. Maybe it takes time?) Once I have my browser secure, I then import my saved bookmarks (which I'm starting to wonder is a good idea). And then navigate to the site I want. I always pgp my address and any identifying info. I verify links (most of the time). I verify signatures.
Is there more I could be doing? I use tails on a usb stick but sometimes I boot from a different computer, a better performing computer which also happens to be my personal computer, which I don't love but it's soooo much faster. Is there anything I'm missing or is there anything I could be doing better or more of? ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated. I'm not a complete noob, been fkn around on the dn for over a year now. But still get nervous that I'm missing something. Anyone relate?

/u/gmoz

1 points

1 year ago

Thanks. I didn't know javascript is enabled on by default when safest mode was on. daunt.link displays a warning when safest mode is not on, but not when javascript.enabled = true

/u/berlinpolizei

1 points

1 year ago

Good Job!

/u/Rokit12

1 points

1 year ago

But they can also fake the takeover to access the commodities, nothing happens as an accident or coincedence. It's either by design

/u/Nosebeers

1 points

1 year ago

Seen that coming 6 months ago.
are all buyers safe from PGP from using that market?

/u/nothowireadit

1 points

1 year ago

im pretty confident no arrests have been made.... Not sure who Alex is but clearnet news reporting (here in aus anyway) that investigations into site admins continues and no arrests directly related to site as of yet??

/u/[deleted]

1 points

1 year ago

Bit of a random question / comment - but on Kingdom when you were transferring less than c. EUR 5 in value to your wallet - was it lost or what cos I had a chat with an admin last week as needed to top up my balance by a small amount to place an order and they said small amounts could not be transferred and money was then lost and could not be returned which I found weird.

/u/salmon4beta1

1 points

1 year ago

Has likely been or has been? Where did you find this information?

/u/HugBunters

1 points

1 year ago

R.I.P KINGDOM MARKET

/u/GrandmaCoke

1 points

1 year ago

A good way to do an exit-scam, take all the coins from your users' wallets and then deliver all the information from your servers to LEA so you will not look like a victimizer, on the contrary, you will pose as a victim.

/u/StrangeLife

1 points

1 year ago

I hope buyers who have not encrypted their addresses will clean home.

/u/exclusivepharma

1 points

1 year ago

another one bites the dust

/u/Turtles

1 points

1 year ago

CAUTION!!!

If you have ever used a BTC or LTC address pointing to your real user crypto account or exchange used in Kingdom market withdrawal or deposit, kindly have the account closed, the reason behind this is that Kingdom Market doesn't purge transaction history which can be used against you.

Notify others!

/u/WhatIsGoingOn

1 points

1 year ago

it is too late. they will need to think about it from cold cell.

/u/Turtles

1 points

1 year ago

Action taken now is better than never.

/u/lowblowjoe

1 points

1 year ago

good points. do you believe that blockchain forensics can be reliably applied to track 'hopping' and other sorts of obfuscation?

/u/Turtles

1 points

1 year ago

Anything is possible with technology.

/u/Skye9889

1 points

1 year ago

another one bites the dust huh. fuck 12

/u/dalianoluisborba

1 points

1 year ago

fuck, just made an order few days ago

/u/Kwik-go

1 points

1 year ago

Damn. BKA leaving 1 link up clowning too...FALLEN KINGDOM. Opsec wasn't good enough apparently

/u/BonkerExpress

1 points

1 year ago

They made ALOT of mistakes if i read everything about it. A seizure of the marketplace wouldn't suprise me.

/u/luvu3

1 points

1 year ago

fuck sake

/u/PelicanVendor

1 points

1 year ago

This is why telegram has been killing it lately lol FE and no issues

/u/jimmysaladz

1 points

1 year ago

should i be concerned right before the seizure i purchased counterfit bills they never came and i see the markets down my money is lost im pretty sure ive done everything i can to secure myself but im still filled with worry.

/u/sharex

1 points

1 year ago

Where i can foud vendor mayby Tom Hawk he ship with dhl please hellp

/u/ffrrrddd5

1 points

1 year ago

42000 lol it s not fallen kingdom it s moved kingdom,take one down 10 more are up

/u/User24323

1 points

1 year ago

hmmm thats crazy

/u/ameeshaposbo

1 points

1 year ago

RIP :(

/u/WeAreAMSTERDAM

1 points

1 year ago*

Said from the start it's not Kingdom Market but ::::: "Kindgom Market" ;;;;;

Karma is a bitch
Happy 2024!

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WeAreAMSTERDAM

/u/Nosebeers

1 points

1 year ago

pretty obvious it was coming, such a drop kick market feel sorry for vendors/customers tho :(

/u/EmpBomb

0 points

1 year ago

RIP Kingdom market. Not the perfect market on the scene but i like how they was only focusing on themselves.

"F" to our fallen comrades.

/u/Octopus

0 points

1 year ago*

/u/Paris, why would a market deemed as "BUSTED" remain on the superlist?

/post/43ea1ca72c6d9b156686

/u/samwhiskey

1 points

1 year ago

So users can find the post breaking the news about being busted ya dunce. Once all the smoke has cleared and staff has removed modship and locked the sub, etc, the /d/superlist will in fact be updated as it always is in these situations.

Nice plug for your sub though, even though you censor posts there.

/u/247365

1 points

1 year ago

Remove their links if you care about users of your comm/subdread....

/u/247365

1 points

1 year ago

Waiting to see if you care about your subs community.... bet they'll still be there soon.

/u/Octopus

-1 points

1 year ago

Nothing is censored on /d/Complaints! you might be mistaking with another sub.
Related issues about Bohemia should go in the megathread, that's all there is to it.
We can't have /d/Complaints showing 50 posts on the main landing page regarding Bohemia etc.
Give other complaints the respect they deserve, so users could beware and avoid. make sense?

/u/0verdosed

0 points

1 year ago

Because the Admins use fuckin reddit for PR use case..

Fuckin retarded move from darknet market admins

/u/Octopus

0 points

1 year ago

Might as well give out your IBAN for getting the commissions lmfao!

/u/GanjaZon

0 points

1 year ago

Ohh well , shit happens on the DNM. Its time to forget about your kingdom wallet money and move on.

/u/JohnyBGood54321

0 points

1 year ago

What does OPSEC mean i would like to learn more to be safe?
so basically I use a VPN(also what k
is the best VPN you guys recommend?) than I obviously use tor. Than I use pgp encryption from a separate app I dont use the websites pgp which from my understanding from reading this is a good thing.

what is the safety more secure ways of doing things on DW markets? is there a guide? please let me know.

/u/fuckyourcapcha

1 points

1 year ago

/d/DarkNetMarkets/wiki?id=9b8942a7

/u/JohnyBGood54321

1 points

1 year ago

Thank You ill give it a read!

/u/TheHealingWave Kingdom's Vendor

0 points

1 year ago

Oh crap... I decided for Kingdom as it was a younger market, which will likely not be targeted by LE anytime soon. Guess I was wrong just a few orders in...
Condolences to everyone at loss.. Stay strong!

/u/[deleted]

0 points

1 year ago

your pgp key public is avalaible for all anyway

/u/ds8910 Knight of Kingdom

0 points

1 year ago

This is not a good news..

Kingdom market was on the come up..

HEARTBROKEN!!!

/u/[deleted]

0 points

1 year ago

I'd been putting off withdrawing my BTC because of the currently extortionate fees. RIP.

/u/deIeted

0 points

1 year ago

pineapple market still up & running

/u/Therude

0 points

1 year ago

Are other markets also at risk?

/u/hathat

0 points

1 year ago

Always suspect other markets are at risk.

/u/WebRider75955d

0 points

1 year ago

hello to all brothers where do we find another site like the kingdom??? full of sellers and offers???? please link me to valid markets with good prices Thanks

/u/kayfoon

0 points

1 year ago

Exit scammed, been scammed for 5k on there

/u/bernard

0 points

1 year ago

RIP Kingdom, it was a good market :(

/u/jacklynn19

0 points

1 year ago

Not sure how it works on dn websites but website was online before it was down and login section was off. wouldnt everything went down when law enforcement takes over the control. Plus no press announcement as far as i know. I highly doubt...

/u/FokkingFire420

1 points

1 year ago

German police made offical statement on their website and also on their twitter. This is very much confirmed.
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTkzZDNjdVltdGhMbVJsTDBSRkwxQnlaWE56WlM5TWFYTjBaVzV6WldsMFpWOVFjbVZ6YzJWdGFYUjBaV2xzZFc1blpXNHZNakF5TXk5UWNtVnpjMlV5TURJekx6SXpNVEl5TUY5UVRWOUVZWEpyYm1WMFgwdHBibWRrYjIxZlRXRnlhMlYwTG1oMGJXdz0=#

/u/gettyup

0 points

1 year ago

Who cares...it's what LE does and we do what we do...who cares???

Kingdom Market has likely been seized by law enforcement : KingdomMarket | Torhoo darknet markets