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long time user of DNMs, how have your experience been ordering from overseas/not domestic packages and orders : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

ive been using the DNMs from a young age and a long time, been around before dream was a think and used dream exstensively, some may even dare to call me a bit of an advanced DNM user or even a v-v-v-veteran. having been on here so long ive slowly gathered a now sizeablelist of overseas vendors with amazing pricing! sadly and somewhat oddly though, ive only ever ordered domestically because that was how i learned to be the safest option for getting your packages without the worst happening AKA police getting involved. I know plenty of vendors who are highly rated and been around for a while who ship overseas, but ive only ever window shopped their product.

ive been toying with buying some product from overseas and was wondering what everyone elses experience with this was or if anyone would even recommend ordering from overseas. as i said ive only ever ordered domestically so my fear of doing this is ten-fold but i know people do it all the time. i dont plan on ordering anything i really need in a timely manner so shipping times isnt a problem as long asit arrives in at least 2 months at the latest. part of te reason i want to buy from overseas is to get good pricing on things like MDMA, 2c-b, and GHB.

I am a huge fan of opiates as well and sadly in the USA you basically can only get presses which you need to test for fent and even then they may have tranq or another one of the hundreds of fent analouges which if you have done you know doesn't hit the same at all and lasts way shorter, and on top of all that, me and my friends like smoking our opiates like oxy and most of the time with presses your gambling on if you can smoke them or not. even then the ones you can smoke do not smoke right at all or they will be pressed to look like a pill you normally cant and shouldnt smoke like a percocet or hydrocodone. don't even get me started on looking for morphine at all or getting heroin without fentanyl in it or trying to find a pill without fent and the vendor saying everything besides "no it does have fent" or "yes it has fent in it". i don't even mind them selling fent but give me a straight fuvking answer so i dont buy your product and die because fent was in it and not oxy.

of course you can get pharma pills online in the USA but get ready to pay more than street price is for a single pill let alone buy a large amount because 30 of them will cost 1,000$ so imagine 100 or 1000? i keep seeing all these listings for opiates in different parts of europe for a reasonable amount and they are from a pharmacy and still sealed. with the price, visuals and everything else it is becoming more and more intruiging to buy some product from overseas.

all of that is to say, what has your guy's experiences been with ordering from overseas/ not domestically? is it sketchy or suspicous at all? how long did it take and should i stick with only very reputable vendors? was it worth the pricce and wait when you got your package? was the quality as expected and did you run into any issues at all? should i order 1 small package or a big package to stock up and not order again so soon? did your pack make it through customs fine? will i get into trouble if my package is siezed at customs or will the vendor be the one taking the heat? will i have to sign for a overseas package? will escrow stay open the whole shipping time or will i have to FE if im ordering from overseas?

any and all info, tips, guidance and other bits of information is appreciated!
/u/MrBacon420 P
1 points
2 days ago
It's all covered in the /d/dnmbible under international.
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
ill go give that a read then, thank you, been trying to give that another read but sadly my link to it doesn't work so thank you for giving me another link i can use!
/u/CleoP4tra
1 points
1 day ago
The biggest issue is, DO YOU TRUST the Vendor? No matter what, or where, you order from, the best way for the pack to get to you is not Tracked Mail, it's an envelope with a stamp that is the safest way to send your stuff. It might take 2, 3 or even 4 weeks, but this is by far the safest, most reliable way for your pack to make it to you from Germany, or the Netherlands, or the UK. Tracked mail is scrutinized at a higher level, a letter with a Stamp gets a pass, there are way too many mail pieces with stamps to get a close look, and again, this is a generalization. Be prepared to lose whatever crypto you spend. The flip side is, of course, the drugs are a lot cheaper.
Look at Ketamine, as an example, the stuff that sells for 60 or even 80 a gram in a bar on a Saturday night is like 6 bucks a gram if you order 100 grams sent from Germany. So, although you might lose a pack, order 3, and hope 2 show up. And again, HOPE YOUR VENDOR SENDS IT. From a Vendors perspective, over-seas shipping is a hassle. Lot's of extra work for a sale that you might get to make once every six months? If it even makes it? And, I am like you, I've been Buying (and was a Vendor) for years and years, and years, all the way back to Alpha Bay was the first market I was a Vendor on, although I've been watching and partying off stuff from the Dark Web since Silk Road.
This is just my opinion, and best of luck.
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
makes sense when you put it like that, i do have vendors overseas i trust but i always worry for the worst and i like to order from someone where i dont worry for the worst hence why i ask what others have had experienced ordering from overseas because i dont want to be the one retarded who gets caught getting drugs in the mail and then arrested for it, you feel. if i had a option or choice i would just get my pack in multiple smaller letters to avoid suspicion as i trust the vendor to get it to me so i can then pay him and hopefully make it worth our while on both ends of things
/u/losangeldust
1 points
1 day ago
my friend ordered domestic USA but the vendor was really from the UK. he got homeland security in swat gear raid his house. they said they where watching the package from uk so they might have been onto this vendor ? or they could have been lying and caught it in customs either way it cost a lot in lawyer fees. i suggest to stay domestic and vendors that lie about there country of origin should be banned.
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
yeah i would be pissed if i was him, i know i got charges for manufacture just because i had a test kit that i bought legally online and that pissed me off let alone having homeland security raid my place over a package that should have been from america that fucking wasn't. yeah any vendor lying about where they are from should get banned and blacklisted from vending ever again on other sites for everyones safety
/u/hearts
1 points
1 day ago
In my case I swear off international vendors, even though many are quite nice and I could get 4-MMC at prices not considered highway robbery. My life can barely afford getting busted on a domestic pack, let alone a visit from customs, especially during this time in particular. Plus I usually just order ket and my go-to vendors all have relatively affordable prices for high quality stuff :p
/u/Scottyvegas99
1 points
1 day ago
for H the european vendors can be 400% cheaper than usa so its worth the gamble..ive ordered 20 times and got 18 of them but nothing happened w the other 2 no letter or visit..maybe they didnt even send it cause they know theres no reships the buyer is fucked if u dont get it cause theres no tracking..an oz of #3 H goes for $500 in europe and in the usa and oz is 1500-1800
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
what vendor did you go through? ive been thinking of ordering overseas so i can get legit pharma opiate pills for cheap plus normally they are still sealed in packages too. id love to get old school priced oxy or hydros and it seems the vast majority of morphine pills i find are from overseas countrys and i absolutely love morphine so much. also totally agree with your choice to get heroin overseas, i dont even do heroin but to my knowledge 99% of heroin in the USA has either fentanyl or tranq in it and ive seen what tranq does to your body if you shoot it up in person at rehab plus it messes with the heroins quality and i myself have ODd on fent laced pills so your basically gambling and paying extra to take said gamble. it seems any heroin user is better off ordering overseas and then making sure to order more way sooner than normal just to get clean, pure heroin rather than paying to risk your life and limbs with fent and tranq dope which seems to have taken over what used to be normal heroin nowadays
/u/Scottyvegas99
1 points
1 day ago
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1 points
1 day ago
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/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
thats how ive been but the allure of getting real pharma oxy for a cheap price like 5$ a pill for 30mg pills instead of 20$ a pill for 10mg pills is very much intruiging me and somewhat worth the gamble with how expensive real pills are in america.it is also nice not having to worry as much with the pills being in sealed packs and with fent not being as popular overseas so im thinking of takng the risk tbh
/u/Jonathanwess 🍼
1 points
1 day ago
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/u/Scottyvegas99
1 points
1 day ago
ive ordered around 20 times from europe and got the order 18 times..this was H i was ordering from england/france/germany/netherlands the 2 times i didnt get it nothing happened didnt get a letter but they wont reship an oversees order unfortunetly..maybe they didnt send it who knows..theres some good shit for cheap to b gotten in europe..ive gotten killer #3 H from england for 100 a g on abacus when it was around
/u/altforsuperstarreview
1 points
1 day ago
Were you receiving these untracked regular letter post?
/u/Scottyvegas99
1 points
1 day ago
yes just regular airmail..it takes 6-14 days
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
so you must prefer #3 heroin then, correct? ive only heard people prefering black tar myself but i also don't do heroin and only know a handful of people who do. i know myself i want to order opiate pills from overseas which is why it seems so enticing to me, i hate paying 20$ for a 10mg oxy thats from the pharmacy or paying to get pressed oxy that is nowhere near as good of a high as pharma oxy. plus morphine which i love tends to only or mainly be sold overseas so i can either pay out the ass for a substance that isn't very strong to begin with or order overseas. also is heroin worth trying and is it something that i cold try and not get an addiction to or should i just not try heroin?

(also let me know her or on your other comment what vendor you ordered from that succesfully got your order to you from overseas please!)
/u/theeditor_4096
1 points
1 day ago
high quality and bulk MDMA, 2c-b, and GHB are all available US<>US from many reputable vendors. international shipping ups your risk uneccesarrily. Okay, you save a few hunderd but ehn one of you pack gets seized and then you're down money. Plenty of well reviewed US vendors.
/u/nezrix 📢
2 points
1 day ago
i would agree for all of that stuff but im looking at getting real pharmacy opiate pills and overseas seems to have the best pricing for those as you can pay like 5$ to 10$ on things like oxycodone when in the states you pay 20$ for just a 10mg pill while in europe your paying 10$ for a 30mg pill which makes it very worth it in my eyes
/u/DogR 🍼
1 points
1 day ago
very bad issue with international, don't try with your own adress !!!
/u/nezrix 📢
1 points
1 day ago
why do you say this? please elaborate more on why if you would please!