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/u/poiuy420
25 points
3 years ago
Yeah, sell the real ones!
/u/Antisemiteghostwhite
15 points
3 years ago
Listen here faggot, if you think the world willingly depopulating itself of retards is a bad thing you need to unlive yourself. The world has too many people and it's mostly the old/sick/stupid etc that are dying. Good riddence!

If whores can kill their unborn babies and that's "personal choice", if people have a right to kill themselves than it stands to reason that people have the freedom of choice to be vaccinated or not and take the risk of dying.

If you don't want to risk catching diseases, never leave your house or have sex. Life is full of risks, don't be a little crybaby bitch.
/u/whatwhen
1 points
3 years ago
You actually spent 5 minutes of your life to write that??
/u/StarScream999 📢
2 points
3 years ago
Are you asking me about the first post? I actually spent several hours writing it. There is a 10k character limit and I kept going over the threshold, so I had to cut it down multiple times and remove a lot of information, totally rewrite sentence structures, use the & symbol instead of and a lot and tons of other stuff to get it down to under 10k.

But, that is how much I believe this is an important issue. I also enjoy writing and I think I'm pretty good at it myself. I have been paid for writing scientific articles on dietary supplements in the past and used to make a good living doing that. Unfortunately, that work dried up for me a bit.

I tried to start a blog with Wordpress so I could take my writing to the masses, but I am clueless at using WP, so eventually gave up on that project. I think I might switch to Wix or SquareSpace next as that will be much easier for me to work with.
/u/whatwhen
1 points
3 years ago
No I was referring to antisemite
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
Oh ok
/u/songokuchichi
1 points
3 years ago
weird ass dude
/u/GetInTheRobot
0 points
3 years ago
What about my freedom to live in a pandemic free world? Also abortion was the world's greatest crime reducer ever. Abortion is dope af.
/u/Antisemiteghostwhite
3 points
3 years ago
Lol I see what you're saying there;)

You don't have freedom from the consequences of others actions other than your choice to remove yourself from their influence.

That's like saying you have the right to not catch the flu or cold.
/u/dandm2003
1 points
3 years ago
i have the right to say you are raving maniac lol
/u/tslamoon
2 points
3 years ago
Why does the state have to guarantee every little thing in your life? How about you grow a spine and get your own shit together? If you lose some weight and get fit you will decrease your risk 100X more than with that fucking vax and mask bs. How about you own up to your own responsibility for your own life?
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago*
I see that your argument is inline with the tenets of those of a full fledged National Socialist who believes in social darwinism and would probably be in full favor of firing up the gas chambers at Auschwitz again, but I don't agree with these sentiments and have a different worldview than you.

I think you might find yourself more welcomed in a community on sites like Stormfront and their ilk.
/u/aireffects
1 points
3 years ago*
Stormfront, lots of state sponsored trolls/actors encouraging people to do stupid shit !
/u/Edeka
0 points
3 years ago
I'm glad you are not getting the vaccine. The world doesn't need people like you.
/u/fohshizzle2
14 points
3 years ago
Oh this is were we should draw the line eh faggot
/u/tslamoon
12 points
3 years ago
You WILL get the vax, you WILL eat the bugs but most importantly you WILL read this wall of text or ELSE
/u/fuckjoebiden
11 points
3 years ago
Just how fucking hilarious is it to be lectured on a DNM forum about buying a vaccine card?
/u/tslamoon
18 points
3 years ago
peak clown world. What happened to the libertarian ideals of the dark net? How long until some other faggot proposes to stop selling drugs and register for taxes?
/u/Realtoysys
3 points
3 years ago
lmao i called it the lemmings are flooding the deepweb too now
I say its time we all did the opposite; encourage the fake cards, this tyrannical globalist shit calls for civil disobedience and will make for a merry crowd of screeching provaxxers along the way
+ tons of people uniting to get the fake passports means tons of people uncovering scams as soon as they pop up :D
/u/Dragonlight274
1 points
3 years ago
TRUE LULW
/u/rigmarole
-1 points
3 years ago
I'd say spreading a disease to vulnerable people is a pretty good line to draw. Sounds like you think you're edgy because you buy drugs online, teenager mindset
/u/StarScream999 📢
-3 points
3 years ago
If that's the best comeback you can come up with against my argument, why even bother posting it? Does it make you feel better to call me a "faggot"?
/u/fohshizzle2
3 points
3 years ago
I did not read a single word from that wall of text lol
/u/Dan_MF_LaRusso
0 points
3 years ago
Being that most Trumpist are fucking retarded then yes "faggot" is his best insult. The best way to piss of a Trumpist is by asking them to elaborate. They automaticaly get defensive and start throwing 1st grade insults because they have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. They are the taint of America. The good news is natural selection is alive and well, soon they will all be gone.
/u/GraySkyRyder
2 points
3 years ago
Sure does explain all the protests in portland and washington state were the radial left was burning cars, kicking out police ( which the majority are there to help the citizens of the state and local areas), as well as destroying local businesses that are just trying to make a better life for themselves while offering a service to those around them. The fact that the majority of the right opposes the LGBTQ society and abortion I highly doubt natural selection will get to them first.
/u/lisamonaco
2 points
3 years ago
Shut the fuck up retard, nobody cares about Portland. All cops are bastards and anything that hurts them is ultimately good for America.
/u/theacorn71
1 points
3 years ago
I love this reply. Here's one for Dan, post a challenge you have for your king Biden, or an issue you have with me being a Trump supporter, and I will gladly respond to it. Even better, here's my Wickr and will have the debate there with you - thacorn71. The easiest thing about being a Constitutionalist and being a Trump supporter is that while Trump may have said and done stupid things, like his Twitter account, is that my logic is actually that, logic which is easily defended.
/u/AutoModerator M Judge Dread
0 points
3 years ago
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/u/4biddenknowledge
6 points
3 years ago
I don't condone the sale of fake cards but you will never force me to put anything into my own body, never. And you will not violate my fundamentally protected civil rights because of it.

Do your research. We are not meant to inject our bodies with God knows what those vaccines actually consist of. We are only informed of the repercussions years later. Don't believe everything you see on TV or read about in the papers. It's called TV PROGRAMming for a reason - you are being programmed as planned. Do your own research and make your own informed decisions. Let me enlighten you with a historical timeline of what we are being told to put into our bodies.

1955 to 1963: 10-30% of polio vaccines administered in the US were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40).

1976 - people who received the 1976 swine influenza vaccine had increased risks of a serious neurological disorder called Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS). Institute of Medicine 2003

1998 - The FDA approved RotaShield vaccine, the first vaccine to prevent rotavirus gastroenteritis. IOM would later announce that the RotaShield vaccine caused intussusception (bowel problems) in some healthy infants younger than 12 months of age who normally would be at low risk for this condition.

Let's not forget how UNICEF's anti-tetanus vaccines administered on some 3 million women were found to contain B-hCG, which when given in a vaccine permanently causes women to be unable to sustain a pregnancy.

There are far too many alterior motives & incentives, both financially and politically, to take anything at face value when it comes from the Organized Crime Unit we call our Government. Speaking of alterior motives and incentives, I can't help but remember how Bill Gates on numerous occasions suggested vaccines as a way to combat the 'issue' of overpopulation (another fallacy btw). Do you not stop to question if there may be a conflict of interest there? When you own stock in a company and stand to profit from the sale of their product, are you not going to suggestively sell that product?

So, you are free to put what ever it is that you wish into your body, however, don't shame me because I refuse to inject myself with something foreign and unnatural. You especially won't see me injecting any vaccines containing human DNA which come from the lung tissue of “a healthy fourteen-week-old aborted Caucasian male fetus”.

Stop letting others think for you and start asking questions. Although, as the saying goes: "ignorance is bliss".
/u/mytrolly
5 points
3 years ago
this is a typical response from an anti-vaxxer; listing incidents without doing research on them.

the polio vaccine was contaminated; the simian virus had nothing to do with the vaccine itself.

the swine flu vaccine actually has no proven assoication between it and any incidence of GBS. there was only one study done where participants were found to have higher rates of GBS, and this study had few participants and only had slightly higher rates of GBS. this was thought to be a result of the fact that rates of GBS are higher in the winter, which is also the same time the flu is most prevalant, and so it had nothing to do with the vaccine itself (correlation does not equal causation, and there was no proof of any direct relation between GBS and the vaccine itself)

there was so much that was done wrong regarding the reporting of the incident with the tetanus vaccine. I won't go into all of it (it can all be seen with a simple google search anyways), but one thing is that the Kenyan Catholic Doctors Association didn’t actually measure beta-hCG in vaccines, but only reported values from the blood of women vaccinated with the tetanus vaccine.
the funny thing about this being brought up, is that someone making claims that a tetanus vaccine was contaminated with B-hCG in order to cause women to be unable to sustain a pregnancy is absolutely hilarious hahaha, you must not have done even baisc research before spewing out this lie, since if you had then you would know that women actually inject themselves with beta-hCG to trigger ovulation in infertility therapy, and this is a pretty common practice. beta-hCG doesn't permanently cause women to be unable to sustain a pregnancy; it is actually used to help infertile women become pregnant!! gotta admit, this one is pretty embarassing for you to have stated 4biddenknowledge.

and lastly, rotashield was 1 out of at least 7 vaccines, and it was the only one pulled from the market. even with the small number of intussusceptions (intussusceptions, not deaths) of about 2-3 out of every 100,000 infants, multiple studies and trials in multiple countries including the United States, had found the vaccine to be 80-100% effective at preventing severe diarrhea caused by rotavirus A, and an age-restricted schedule was estimated to be able to prevent 156,100 rotavirus deaths while causing only 288. thats 1 death for every 542 lives saved.

this last one is a prefect example of how, when there is actually evidence of negative impacts of vaccines, anti-vaxxers simply don't look at or understand the math, ratios or probability associated of efficacy compared the side effects, and would rather take the risk of the incredibly small chance that the vaccine would do harm, and just ignore the enormous mountain of data showing how vast a number more of benefits one can get from it.

the vaccines that OP has chosen to embarissingly list as reason he doesn't want to take a vaccine, were are quite novel and based off of limited research of novel viruses and diseases. coronaviruses, however, have been being studied since 1930, and the vaccine for the coronavirus has been in the making for 20 years. there are OTC medications that im sure anti-vaxxers take that haven't had as much research as the coronavirus.

i could go on longer, but since anti-vaxxers don't actually spend enough time to do basic research (hence why OP tried to make any of the points they did), i doubt they have even spent the time to read this entire post so there is no need for me to continue stating facts and logic that anti-vaxxers aren't able to understand anyways.
/u/kurdishYPG
1 points
3 years ago
the vaccines that OP has chosen to embarissingly list as reason he doesn't want to take a vaccine, were are quite novel


you mean like sars ncov 2? novel is literally in the name!

Its disturbing and very telling that you completely 'other' people that disagree with you.. To you, they are not people.. just 'antivaxxer' and should be injected forcibly, and if not? Oh well .. kill em, put them in camps, WHO CARES? because they dont agree with you.

Disturbing way of thinking that you exhibit
/u/mytrolly
4 points
3 years ago
are you even responding to my post? none of what you have written references anything that I said lol.
im going to have to explain this to you like you are a 5 year old aren't I. obviously sars cov2 is novel, but it is the same strain of a virus that has been around for ages. same as how the flu is a different strain every year, but it is still a form of the influenza virus. if you didn't know that then geez you haven't done any research either.

you must be high, because your grammer is broken and I'm not sure what you mean when you say "Its disturbing and very telling that you completely 'other' people that disagree with you." what do you mean by "you completely 'other' people?" also, im not sure where you make the jump from me saying that antivaxxers don't do research, and saying that this means i think that i think they should all be killed.... you are really reaching here lol. this isn't an issue of agreeing or disagreeing, it is an issue of people dismissing facts, and saying they are just opinions, just like you are doing now.

congratulations, you have just completely supported everything that my first post highlights. you have done no research, and your post is just throwing around insults like a child
/u/hwelin
3 points
3 years ago
Some vaccines have been proven to be dangerous already, and no wonder, a vaccine is NOT supposed to be made and commercialized THAT fast, the pre clinical stages alone takes years, some vaccine took even as far as a dozen years to be able to be commercialized and approved. Those were definitely rushed and you can tell by how people are reacting to it for some. But in this case, it seems that the vaccine is more likely to affect the cardiovascular system altogether. Like thrombosis or myocarditis and so on.

The disease itself also can impact the brain to begin with, so imagine a rushed vaccine based on the said disease. Without prior proper tests and so on.
And honestly, who would trust Pfizer and Astrazeneca to begin with?

If it would have been Pasteur or even better Roche, I would've been more confident in their work. But still definitely not convinced. I'd rather avoid any contact and let others vaccine themselves and see how it goes before thinking about that.

Also, a vaccine that does not prevent the contamination of others? What the hell? That ain't a vaccine, that's a long lasting med that "may" reduces how lethal the covid can be for you. I call this a med, not a vaccine. You can still get it, you can still contaminate others, you can still die from it, also, it handles variants very poorly anyway.

Just see Israel, they rushed for the vaccines, they all acted cool like we can now do parties and drink our stuff on bars and stuff, going outside and all without masks. Well, it already starts to get back on them.

Also, vaccinating kids shouldn't be a thing, ye sure kids can go around and contaminate a lot and stuff, but, they get more risks being "vaccinated" than not. Some epidemiologists blamed that and said it was truly a bad way to go.

I cannot figure out a single positive point except the supposedly lessened impact of the covid on yourself only. But again, its all politic.
However the tetanus vaccine is amongsts the safest vaccine out there nowadays and it does not last for ever. 20 years or so. But maybe the formula is different since then, gotta admit I do not know about a vaccine related to unicef (but again, who would trust unicef??)

But ye, its just a huge win for politics, they can take away some of our liberty/freedom, and once they take it, they never gave it back. So for them, its a good pretext to restrict even more.
We're heading, in some countries, to authoritarianism/dictatorship more and more. And also, most people still believe it is cause the chinese are dirty and are eating horrible stuff or whatever. Many fake versions of where it came from.

Truth is, it just came from a B4/P4 lab. It was human made (and it ain't conspiracy theory there, all am sayin is, it came from an human, mistake or not, no clue, dont care to be honest at his point)

One that worked at the said lab even gave a recipe to make your own COVID kinda. Rather interesting. However I don't know how a lab of such level can allow mistakes. Especially when dealing with such stuff. The whole story is odd. It being the origin of the virus as well as the vaccines coming up that fast. Everything looks weird.
/u/Realtoysys
2 points
3 years ago
best reply so far. Concise evidence cant be topped. although I disagree with u on one thing, the fake cards slap cuz theyre an act of subversion against this bullshit the governments are pulling. Thats even worth going thru a big paywall of scams for ^^
/u/donjuan4
0 points
3 years ago
Let's not forget the US Government injecting black people with syphilus, amnong other atrocities pulled by the US Government.
/u/FentyWap
2 points
3 years ago
im not defending politicians, but the system through which the constitution serves as its foundation is very good. people will make anything bad, but destroying the US because of our shitty politicians is throwing the baby out with the bath water. the us government did bad things, as did every other government on the planet, past and present, but to destroy the country is to eliminate the good that comes with it, and the US is a force for good in a world where power hungry monsters are in control. if the US was not the strongest by so much, how do you think we would fare if china were the top dog? things would be much worse for us all.
/u/tslamoon
3 points
3 years ago
If you want your dystopian dictatorship nanny state you are in the wrong place.
/u/rigmarole
2 points
3 years ago
You conform to society in every other way, yet a new vaccine is where you draw the line. Like OP mentioned, the sad part is your just falling victim to those purposefully spreading misinformation for political gain, making you a 'sheep', if you will.
/u/tslamoon
1 points
3 years ago
You are the one blindly following orders like you are some kind of brainwashed drone. You haven't done any scientific research, otherwise youd know that the truth is not as simple as you describe. End of the day covid is as dangerous for young people as the flu. If you didn't bother with the flu vaccine you shouldn't get the covid vaccine. Young people are not the ones overfilling the hospital so its a non issue. You trying to force everyone to fall in line over some meme bs is however a big problem.
/u/ILikeMorphineAndHeroin
1 points
3 years ago
I don't care whether you get a vaccine or not, but I hate the "it's just a flu for young people" argument. Yeah it can be like that, but the neurological symptoms don't seem to discriminate based on age. Of course plenty of people get it without neurological symptoms, but plenty also do get it, ranging from taste/smell loss to brain fog, memory problems, and more. And lung/stamina problems. Whether you personally think it's a big deal or not is up to you of course but there's definitely more associated risks than with a flu. (of course a flu can be quite serious too, I've had a friend who got seriously messed up by a flu a few years ago)

Also, it is definitely mostly older people, but 90-95% of the hospital population of covid is unvaccinated people.
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago
As I previously stated, I will not be engaging with unhinged anti-vaxxers in this thread, so you're wasting your time posting in this thread.
/u/tslamoon
1 points
3 years ago
lol go back to reddit faggot. You can be a self righteous authoritarian blue haired piece of shit there all you want.
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago
I know it must be shocking that someone has a different worldview point of view than yours, but there's no need to be triggered by it.

Put on some classical music, have a cup of tea and maybe come back and try actually making an argument about the issues brought up in this thread instead of posting old & tired insults.
/u/dandm2003
1 points
3 years ago
"no need to be triggered" you support taking my ability to earn a living to support my family? oh i'm triggered
/u/Dan_MF_LaRusso
4 points
3 years ago
You wrote "earn a living to support my family" but what I think you meant to say is "im a virgin who has never had a job because i still live with my parents". Pretty positive im spot on with that one but let me know will ya?
/u/tslamoon
1 points
3 years ago
Im not the one trying to enforce my opinion with rules you slimy underhanded fake loser.
/u/fuzzydickle
0 points
3 years ago
wow, imagine being this deluded. gross.
/u/dandm2003
3 points
3 years ago
holy sh@# - 'moron alert'! seriously - WTF
/u/gresbugbf
3 points
3 years ago
I personally use a fake vaccine card even though i am vaccinated. i am under 21 and have a fake id that states im 21 with a fake name, but my real vax card has my real name. some clubs and bars need to see a vax card to get in, so i bought a fake with the same name as my ID for that case. But this is a very specific situation
/u/valhallaguy
3 points
3 years ago
Why doesnt this idiot mind his own business. Get vaxxed if you want but don't tell ppl what they should do for themselves with their bodies. And DONT LISTEN TO EVERYTHING YOU HEAR ON CNN. Jesus
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago
Please turn off Fox News, OANN, NewsMax, Alex Jones, or wherever you're getting your misinformation from. You have become brainwashed by people with a political agenda to make you not get the vaccine. I posted MANY sources from legitimate medical organizations, not CNN.

⚠️Beliefs in Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation About COVID-19: Comparative Perspectives on the Role of Anxiety, Depression and Exposure to and Trust in Information Sources⚠️

While COVID-19 spreads aggressively and rapidly across the globe, many societies have also witnessed the spread of other viral phenomena like misinformation, conspiracy theories, and general mass suspicions about what is really going on. This study investigates how exposure to and trust in information sources, and anxiety and depression, are associated with conspiracy and misinformation beliefs in eight countries/regions (Belgium, Canada, England, Philippines, Hong Kong, New Zealand, United States, Switzerland) during the COVID-19 pandemic. Data were collected in an online survey fielded from May 29, 2020 to June 12, 2020, resulting in a multinational representative sample of 8,806 adult respondents. Results indicate that greater exposure to traditional media (television, radio, newspapers) is associated with lower conspiracy and misinformation beliefs, while exposure to politicians and digital media and personal contacts are associated with greater conspiracy and misinformation beliefs. Exposure to health experts is associated with lower conspiracy beliefs only. Higher feelings of depression are also associated with greater conspiracy and misinformation beliefs. We also found relevant group- and country differences. We discuss the implications of these results.

[...]

While the SARS-CoV-2 virus—responsible for causing the COVID-19 disease—spreads aggressively and rapidly across the globe, many societies have also witnessed the spread of other seemingly viral phenomena such as fake news, conspiracy theories, and general mass suspicions about what is really going on. Some of the most prevailing narratives are the ones claiming that the virus is caused by 5G cellular technology (Vincent, 2020) or that Bill Gates uses the virus to enslave humanity by enforcing a global vaccination and surveillance program (Shahsavari et al., 2020). Even though most of these stories were quickly debunked and proven untrue, the pervasiveness of misinformation and conspiracy theories on social media and in the news cycle has led the Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO) to warn that “We’re not just fighting an epidemic; we’re fighting an infodemic. Fake news spreads faster and more easily than this virus, and is just as dangerous” (WHO, 2020a).


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/u/[deleted]
2 points
3 years ago
wow dude you have really drank the kool-aid. you tell people they need to stop focusing on these specific news sources and then show us how you have made it impossible for alternative info to even reach your eyes.

You must be one of the 13% that approves of the job Congress is doing. num num, lap up that kool-aid.
/u/vixenkink
3 points
3 years ago
Soooo....on that note, who's selling those Vax pass?
/u/jayfarms
2 points
3 years ago
Okay, ive been on the fence on whether or not just go and get the vaccine or continue waiting as long as I can. Now im not one of the people who actively take part in conspiracy theories but I do have some questions that maybe someone else could answer in regards to whats happening, both where I live and in america as well as many other places.

First question- I am around mid 30's in age, over the past while since covid 19 first emerged, I would guess I have personally known and and grieved over, maybe 40-50 people, friends family and acquaintances that are no longer with us due to opiates, mainly fentynal, yet I dont know any one personally that has died due to covid 19 even though it is extremely active in my area and has been for awhile now and i live in a very densely populated part of my country so its not due to that or anything of the sort. But when you look at the statistics of people dying you see covid-19 deaths is at least 20x higher in almost if not all communities in North America (according to what stats Ive been able to find) so my question is how is it possible for me to have known as many people personally that have died from opioids since the covid 19 pandemic began than covid 19 itself?

Second Question- Its been made clear that this vaccine is different then all the others administered in the past in regards to testing and long term effects because of the dire need for it ASAP, so (i use this lightly) the tests for FDA approval were rushed and achieved only the bare minimum with regards to safety for use and and future side effects in comparison to all other vaccines that have been administered before it. So my question, how can you be so sure that this vaccine isnt going to have some sort of future serious side effect? maybe even one potentially more deadly then the virus itself.

As for your post in general, I agree with the basis 100% though, the fake vaccine passports may not be the best thing for this or any community as a whole, i just wanted to ask a couple questions for myself so that I can reach a decision on the vaccine and whether or not i should keep waiting.
/u/dandm2003
2 points
3 years ago
dont get the jab. seriously. do your research objectively. you dont want that sh@t in your body
/u/[deleted]
2 points
3 years ago
You know 50 people who have died of opiate overdoses since 2019? What were you their dealer?
/u/RolledZigZag
2 points
3 years ago
Na. their doctor.

potato / patatow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/u/[deleted]
1 points
3 years ago
lmao that emoticon didnt use to work on dread, glad to see hes back in business
/u/jayfarms
1 points
3 years ago
Absolutely not, I hate the shit with a fuckin passion, Ive met a lot of people in my short time here which in most other circumstances is a blessing but I guess just happened to be living in an area that seems to be particularly burdened by the poison and i guess too many people willing to kill their friends and fellow people for a buck, Fuck Fentynal and Fuck Fentynal Dealers.
/u/ILikeMorphineAndHeroin
1 points
3 years ago
Nobody can really make that decision for you. as for the death thing, you surround yourself with a certain type of person, we all do this. So you probably know/knew plenty of opiate users, you probably don't know as many 60-70 year olds (who make up a large part of the death statistic). There's a fair few people in their 30's, 40's who have died too but the odds that you see that is lower. The pre-clinical and clinical research studies were indeed done very quickly but they had insane amounts of support behind them. This is what can be achieved when there's actually a big financial and resource focus on pharmaceutical research. Many countries helped in this and supported eachother with data, larger countries supported massive test groups and they had so many resources at their disposal. As for long term side effects, this is something you'll have to reach your own opinion on.

You can either choose to trust people who are knowledgable in it when they say it is unlikely, or do your own research if you're interested in it. It's hard, and you'll require knowledge on a wide variety of topics but you'll probably be able to make a better decision. I'm studying Biomedical Sciences myself and it interests me a lot, personally I also think there is extremely little reason to believe there could be any long term side effects to this vaccine because of how it works. But at some point you'll just have to decide who/what you trust and come to conclusions based on that, I think.
/u/StarScream999 📢
-1 points
3 years ago
My reply to your questions ended up exceeding the 6,000 character to limit, so instead of going to the hassle of trying to cut it up or remove important information from it, I posted it on bitbin.

⚠️Reply to jayfarms on Dread⚠️

Sorry for having to post it there, but it will be worth your time to read and save me the trouble of having to truncate the post and remove valuable information.
/u/jayfarms
1 points
3 years ago
I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions but I do want to mention a couple of things that I feel your answers do lack, the first being that you arent really givning me any answer to my first question at all, granted its a hard one to have answered from the get go due to all of the possible variables, but still even a theory of why that might be or something that I am not thinking of would suffice as your current ones dont fit, my community id say has about a 50/50 on the pro and anit vax/mask and I think im being generous in favor of the pros there. and secondly you are using fear tactics in your points just as the media does by saying things like

"Who’s not vaccinated? 99.2% of all people currently dying of Covid-19"

Im all for a logical and healthy debate on a subject but I will not acknowledge statistics such as this with no other intent but to scare my line of thinking to follow suit with yours, when there are much more appropriate statistics that arent as biased and with no intent to scare but rather actually show a point in the argument.
/u/ponysandweed
1 points
3 years ago
When they dont have a response but will remain in denial
/u/jayfarms
1 points
3 years ago
I cant tell if you mean me or not, but if you do mean me, I did have a response and stated it quite clearly whilst pointing out that i wont acknowledge fear driven statistics as any kind of fact, even though i know they are probably accurate but they do not require one to deliver it with fear tactics loaded behind them. Its unnecessary and an insult to my intelligence.
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
You're welcome to look up the statistics yourself on Google. It has a ton of information if you search for "Covid Deaths" or "Covid Deaths in my Area".

I can't give you a source for that particular statistic, but you are again using the yet another logical fallacy of ⚠️cherry picking⚠️ data that confirms your belief.

For your first question, I can't give you an answer because there are too many variables involved and it's based on your anecdotal experience. Just because you don't know anyone who has died of COVID doesn't mean it's not happening. You just haven't come across it for whatever reason.

I feel like your initial questioning has started down the dangerous road of starting to believe the COVID vaccine conspiracy theories. I'd recommend reading my top post again thoroughly as I address almost all points brought up and you can read the links from medical experts on common COVID conspiracies and see that they are all debunked.
/u/MAGA69420
2 points
3 years ago
The darknet is not a place for your cancerous leftism stfu faggot go back to twitter.
/u/acidgreen
2 points
3 years ago
The data is very clear, Israel; The most heavily vaccinated country on Earth has the biggest problem with Covid infections and mortality.
The vaccine was never even claimed to prevent infection or spread, merely to lower symptoms if infected. 80% of people being hospitalised and dying are fully vaccinated.

Just go and look at the RAW statistical data from any official source... The vaccine has not prevented any spread or deaths and due to it being a 'leaky' vaccine is actually enabling the Delta variant to incubate, mutate and spread more quickly (which is the problem in Israel).

No conspiracy, just science fact for those who obtain their facts from actual data and not CNN. But please, continue to live in a terrified state of delusion and misinformation.
/u/spirit_of_christ
2 points
3 years ago
Polish scientist went peeping around in different vials of pfizer vax. Some of them contained saline and in some of the others he found aluminum based life forms, small head with massive tentacles that are reproducing inside the vaxxed. May god help us all.
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
POST A SOURCE FOR THIS CLAIM. WHERE DID YOU HEAR THIS?

⚠️Why I don't argue with COVID-19 Anti-Vaxxers⚠️
/u/Dragonlight274
2 points
3 years ago
The downvotes on this post restore my faith in this community.

Starscream999 sounds an awful like the Fed trying to manipulate the Darknet to get vaccinated. Sussy Baka
/u/GetInTheRobot
1 points
3 years ago*
It doesn't really matter anymore, if your on dread you're probably a basement dweller who never leaves their home anyway, so not likely to infect anyone. If you don't have the vaccine by now, you've got stage 4 brainrot and no dread post is gonna cure you.
/u/283159238
1 points
3 years ago
Sadly, there's no vaccine for stupid. This country is completely fucked now. Long live the mouth-breathers. If there's a positive, maybe I can unload some of my dog's Frontline for good cash.
/u/winstonhorseman
1 points
3 years ago
Cognitive dissonance can be seen in animal consumption (wrong to kill a dog, dolphin but alright to gas a pig) as well as drugs (alcohol AND drugs) "I don't do drugs", most people look down on people doing drugs while eating sugar, using caffeine as well as alcohol and scripts. Feel like there are more important things then the covid BS, and when push comes to shove the antivaxxors are more suseptable to dying from the virus, as well as overpopulation as mentioned
/u/hellohelloworld
1 points
3 years ago
Sound like music to my hear:

in fact more Americans have already died from COVID than from the Spanish flu as well as have died during the entirety of the Vietnam War. Over 675,000 Americans have died since the pandemic began.

For once your american dogs don't kill innocents.
/u/kurdishYPG
1 points
3 years ago
Sorry.. Did you say covid is decimating the population?! Which country do you live in, Where is the numbers to support that claim?!
/u/Wuffle
1 points
3 years ago
Covid-19 is not decimating our population as the corrupt power hungry officials want you to think. These tests are completely worthless, the vaccines destroy your immune system and the move to suppress immune supporting suppliments or activities as well as alternative treatments should have given you red flags. Stop being a useful idiot.
/u/Anon02
1 points
3 years ago
Why would anyone pay for what's freely available all over the internet?

https://files.catbox.moe/j6x2df.pdf
/u/tots2
1 points
3 years ago
u right whos goes an insider at the cdc mail room? Need them straight from the source. hmu people asking every day for em. I need.
/u/redhandler99
1 points
3 years ago
not reading all of that asshurt wall of text.
next.
/u/StarScream999 📢
-1 points
3 years ago
Then please stay out of this thread if you refuse to have any sort of cognitive debate.
/u/redhandler99
1 points
3 years ago
debating on the internet, lol.
/u/buysomedrugs
1 points
3 years ago
What complete nonsense.
It is pitiful that after almost 2 years you still believe the lies
Covid is a scam and if you don't know it by now then you have serious intellectual and emotional problems.

There is no talking with these people so i say just keep on getting your poison jabs. After the 3rd shot,the booster, you are required to take more shots throughout the year for the rest of your life.
It's going to kill you or seriously disable you at some point. I think this may be for the best. The human race does not need you.

You are so pitiful.
/u/theacorn71
1 points
3 years ago
you're just plain stupid. You've bought into the hype. I can't even begin to respond to this
/u/b1llythek1d
1 points
3 years ago
Hey shit head go suck a dick of the government piece of shit.
/u/D34THCH1LD
1 points
3 years ago
I got COVID and SURVIVED!! how do you explain that you fucking moron!
Not only that I now have antibodies (natural ones) and a vaccine is no longer required
This is about survival of the fittest if you die of covid you weren't meant to be...seeya!
/u/marksuckerberg
1 points
3 years ago
TL;DR: I wholeheartedly agree with you, but sadly, you're wasting your breath. No one is going to ban these because unwarranted arrogance has become so rampant that people genuinely think they know better than lifelong experts, narcissism has become so prevalent that people frankly don't care if they ARE wrong as long as they get their way, and delusion is so widespread that people refuse to acknowledge objective reality, regardless of the cost. "I'm right, period" regardless of facts, coupled with good old fashioned greed, means this won't be banned (and indeed, will probably see increased sales). Humanity is garbage, but on the upside, it'll be over pretty soon.

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I agree with every word you wrote, and have argued some of the same specific points...to no effect, here or anywhere else on the internet. Those who believe in woowoo tinfoil hat shit aren't going to be persuaded by logic or evidence, because they've already decided that doesn't matter to them. They categorically refuse to acknowledge even irrefutable evidence - you could literally stab them, tell them you've stabbed them and they are bleeding, and they will plug their ears and say "nu uh!" - that's the kind of mentality you're dealing with, and it cannot be reasoned with.

Agreeing upon objective reality is necessary for society to function at any level. If no one can agree upon the day, time, location, subject, and validity of any event or piece of information, discussion cannot function, and discussion is a required part of any type or size of society (communication is required, and communication leads to disagreements, which require discussion to resolve). Instead, these people will keep shouting that they're right until everyone agrees with them, on ANY topic they care about. Covid is just the beginning, it's just the FIRST significant issue to be impacted by the post-truth reality we live in.

The one chance we would have to avoid this would be if those in power felt any sense of responsibility and/or possessed any degree of foresight, however it has become starkly obvious that this is not the case. The potentially helpful factor here, objective morality, is in even worse shape than objective reality, and has been for some time - too many people have zero empathy with ANYONE. This manifests at the top level by legislators only enacting policies that benefit THEM ("We don't need universal health care, mine is already paid for" - "Public education? Who cares, I'm already done, and my kids/grandkids go to private school" "Climate Change? Whatever, I'll be dead by then" etc), however that's not where it ends, and people selling and buying fake vaccination credentials is just another manifestation of that same issue.

Basically, people really, truly do not care about anyone but themselves. This isn't universally true, but waaaaay too many people feel that way, and that number is rapidly increasing. This is also terrible for society, because it essentially leads to anarchy - the idea of the greater good (or shit, even simple fairness) doesn't matter to these people, the only outcome they care about is their own. If you gave most of these people a cliche moral dillema like "you can have $1000 but a stranger must die", they'd accept, because other people don't matter. It's not just strangers, either - you could do "you can have $1000 but your neighbors must die" and they'd still accept, because their neighbors are not THEM, and only THEY matter. It's classic narcissism on a massive scale - everyone thinks they're the main character in the movie of their life, and everyone else is an extra, or at best, a supporting character, so who gives a fuck what happens to them? "They're not REAL, like ME."

So you've got a world full of people who wouldn't suffer even a MINOR inconvenience to save a life, who genuinely believe they are the only real people, or that they're the most important person and no price is too high for their happiness (or even convenience), as long as it's paid by someone else. Couple that with people who refuse to acknowledge objective reality they don't like, and you've got a bunch of malicious, delusional narcissists willing to burn you to death to ward off a slight chill. Asking people like that to come together in any way, for any reason, will accomplish nothing, because they're player one, and everyone else is just an NPC - we all ran over hookers in GTA once upon a time, because they're not REAL, they're just 0s and 1s, but these people feel that way about EVERYONE, in real life. There are related issues I could go into, like lust for power and naked greed, but they're just variations on a theme - it's the selfishness and delusion that's the heart of everything.

This is just the first tremble of the imminent collapse of society. The first shudder of humanity's death throes. Honestly, I hope an even worse disease comes along and wipes out the vast majority of humanity, even if I'm one of the dead - it's the only way I can see to prevent the end of our species (or if we're VERY lucky, just society in any form we'd recognize). We're all ultimately fucked, don't have kids and just pray it happens slowly enough that it doesn't hit you and your loved ones too hard.I appreciate you for caring enough to want the world to be a better place, but we've already lost, there's no hope, so the best thing you can do is try to enjoy yourself - I recommend opiates, they work great for my ennui, personally.

(Yes, yes, I know, subsequent commenters, you didn't read my comment, it's too long, I must be some kind of fucking nerd or something, it's the internet bro, who cares, what a fucking clown, etc - I'm sure it was very important to let everyone know that critical feedback.)
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago*
When I made this first post, I made another post explaining why I wouldn't argue with unhinged deranged anti-vaxxers, but the post got downvoted to oblivion, so I reposted it on BitBin.

⚠️Why I don't argue with COVID-19 Anti-Vaxxers⚠️

Their arguments always revolve around about 4 general points or a combination of them.

A) Covid is fake and the government is lying about it
B) The vaccine doesn't work and is dangerous to take
C) The vaccine is being forced on people by an "authoritarian government"
D) They believe that they have the right to refuse to be vaccinated and are convinced they're a persecuted minority and make statements like "my body my choice", when they already have been vaccinated their whole lives and those vaccines have more than likely saved their life. You got vaccinated as a baby, you were required to get a list of vaccines to attend school, and if you want to or have traveled internationally you will sometimes be required to be vaccinated against one or more of the prominent diseases in that area.


And as I posted in my initial post:

The complete ignorance of the individuals who buy into these conspiracy theories is overwhelming and their claims are so demonstrably false that they can be easily debunked by a simple Google search to legitimate sites with real and factual information that's backed up by peer reviewed studies & real scientific data. The next time one of these anti-vax conspiracy theorists tells you the vaccine is poison or deadly, ask them for proof or a source for their claims. The majority of them lack even the basic knowledge of the ⚠️scientific method⚠️ and other basic tenets of biology 101 it's questionable if some of them have even completed high school.


But thank you for your feedback and being civil. I understand where you're coming from. I've spent hours of my life trying to argue with anti-vaxxers and it's always a waste of time. They are completely incoherent, constantly deflect the subject, show no evidence of their claims, and have absolutely zero critical thinking skills.
/u/marksuckerberg
2 points
3 years ago
Yeah, I've seen some of the replies in this thread where you've offered that as a reply. I obviously agree with you wholeheartedly, on essentially every point. I guess my comment was more in the nature of a lament than advice to avoid engaging - after all, I certainly engaged by writing the comment in the first place.

The willful ignorance just blows my mind. Like, there's no way they can look at what they've written and think "that makes perfect sense", they just don't care that it doesn't, which is a position so foreign to me it's bizarre. Like, I can understand not caring enough to have an opinion, sure, but to have a strong opinion that's based on such obviously false information is something else. ESPECIALLY the guys who are like "have you really looked into this?" after you've posted detailed information with reputable sources and they have...literally nothing but "because I said so", or ridiculous claims like "even the medical websites say it's not a vaccine" that are, as you say, demonstrably false. I don't understand how one could do that and think "I definitely won that argument" or "I am clearly correct".

The thing is, the reason they don't use sources or facts or logic is because ALL of those things prove they're wrong - in a healthy mind, that would lead to "oh, the facts don't agree with my interpretation, therefore my interpretation must be wrong", however they're so mentally disturbed they do the reverse: "oh, the facts don't agree with my interpretation, therefore the facts must be wrong". It is, quite literally, like someone saying "2+2 = 7" and absolutely refusing to listen to anyone saying otherwise - "Nope, you're wrong, the textbook is wrong, my calculator is wrong, all mathematicians are wrong, anything or anyone that doesn't agree with my interpretation must be wrong" - I genuinely don't understand how one gets into that mindset. It really is insanity - like, I'm not trying to malign anyone, I seriously mean that it is actual insanity to claim that all of everything in history is wrong because it doesn't fit your interpretation, like everyone has become schizophrenic en masse. I don't understand how or why that could happen, that so many people could go so crazy so quickly.

Some of it is certainly related to Trump's normalizing of reality denial and "alternative facts" - it's like people didn't realize that refusing to accept reality was an option, and now that they've seen it IS, that's what they want to do. I think it's partially related to stupidity - people that are tired of being wrong their whole lives, so they're living in a fantasy world in which they're always right, no matter what anyone else says or what information is provided to them.

There are a lot of societal problems that we've faced, as humanity, but widespread insanity is a new one, and I honestly don't see how we fix that. I think the only way is to allow society to fall, so that people are forced into a constant survival state - deal with reality or die. Anyone who can't or won't deal with reality will die, and those that CAN will be forced to do so, leading to every living person accepting reality as a matter of staying alive. A deadlier disease might do this without totally destroying civilization, so I guess that's the option I'm hoping for - like, something that wipes out 50% of humanity would probably do the trick.


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/u/marksuckerberg
1 points
3 years ago
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One other potential solution I've considered would be the end of the internet. While the internet has been around for quite some time, it's only been recently that it's become ubiquitous - it used to be mostly people smart enough to figure it out, but it's been dumbed down so much that literally anyone can use it to share their idiocy. These people can find like-minded people much more easily - it used to be difficult for crazy people to find other crazy people, or find a platform to spread their insanity, but now it's all a click away, without ever needing to leave the house or interact with real people. Destroying the internet would require people to develop real relationships with others once again, and prevent piss-jar saving lunatics from having a platform to spread lunacy to the credulous.

To be clear, I'm something of an internet utopian. My career is internet-backbone focused - I've literally spent decades working to improve the internet because I think it's such a potentially amazing thing. Wikipedia, for example, is a triumph of the modern age - detailed information on nearly any subject available to everyone, for free, any time you want it. People forget, but before the internet, there was no such thing - yes, there was Encyclopedia Britannica, but that required having a huge collection of books, and anything new would take YEARS to be added, and only if you bought a whole new set of books - having access to information on this scale is a massive leap forward, and in a sane world, would result in everyone getting smarter or at least more knowledgable, since data is available to everyone for free - I learned my entire trade for free from the internet, and it gave me a secure, extremely lucrative career. That's fantastic.

Unfortunately, however, the internet is just a reflection of humanity, and we are utter fucking garbage.As a result, it's become a total cesspool of misinformation and disinformation, as well as a breeding ground for narcissism and misanthropy. Social media has convinced everyone they're super important - seeing people with 12 followers talk about how internet famous they are shows the delusion of even the most common individuals. The focus on "clicks" or, essentially, attention seeking, has driven people to value the wrong aspects of human interaction. Worse, you can get all the confirmation you need by seeking out the right community, and can therefore reject the outside world competely. People can live their whole life without bothering to get to know any real people, or having any interactions with people who share different values - on one hand, there are a LOT of different viewpoints on the internet, but on the other, you have to CHOOSE to engage with those viewpoints, and it's totally possible to refuse to do so and only surround yourself with people who share your opinions, however extreme they might be. Before the internet, interacting with a variety of people was required for any but the most isolated hermits, and I don't think people realize how even incidental interaction can shape your view of the world. It used to be only rural people could sustain any kind of ignorance or xenophobia, because people in populous areas were forced into close proximity with a huge variety of different people and opinions, however these days you can be just as isolated as a swamp living southern grandfather, never interacting with anyone different than you, or anyone with different opinions. As a result, everyone has basically become crazy shotgun polishing, jug band, banjo playing rural hicks, no matter where they live. Everyone has become ignorant trailer trash, regardless of where they live or what they do.

I, unfortunately, DID have offspring, and it's a choice I've come to regret, because the world is sliding further and further towards chaos and doom. The strange thing is that the same conspiracy nutjobs will tell me I'm being unreasonable when I say that - they're perfectly willing to believe Bill Gates microchips in the vaccine, but can't accept the idea that the world might change in any way - they'll always be able to order anything they need from amazon, hospitals will always be open and well staffed, and grocery stores will always have everything they need. Nothing will damage the overall fabric of society, because that's a situation they can't comprehend. I love being a parent, but regret bringing a child into this world, because it's a fucking pisspot destined for failure. We all have dark times ahead, all of this is just the first signs of the pillars of civilization crumbling, the first note in the song that ends the world. There is nothing 100 men can build that 1000 men won't destroy, and the more isolated and arrogant we become, the more individual we become, the less the fabric of society will hold together, and when it starts to unravel, it will be very hard to stop - it's nearly impossible to knit a sweater back together, but pulling on the threads until it's a pile of chaos is easy - even somehow compelling.

I hope I'm wrong, and we're living in a short period of abberation that we'll figure out a way to stop, but I just don't see how that's possible, and most people won't even realize it's a disaster until it's way, WAY too late - I mean, shit, look at climate change. It was an emergency decades ago, and even now, we have IRONCLAD proof, but still, we do nothing meaningful.

Basically, humanity is too stupid and terrible to survive, and I won't be sorry to see us go. Persons can be great, but people are invariably horrible, and we'll destroy ourselves long before we do anything to fix any of our numerous and increasing disaster-level emergencies. This cobid shit is just the most recent example of our moral and intellectial bankruptcy, hopefully it becomes more deadly and wipes most people from existence, because we don't deserve to be here.
/u/itsdatboibudsanddrugs
1 points
3 years ago
Listen to the Joe Rogan podcast with Alex Berenson. Listen to the statistics on these vaccines. let people make their own decisions, if it so awful like you say, then let the stupid people who wont get a vaccine die
/u/stonedmafia
1 points
3 years ago
I read the first sentence and stopped.
Garbage advertisement this is
Event 201 do your research vaccines are for sheep
/u/stonedmafia
1 points
3 years ago
Believing science from the CDC for vaccines is like believing science for cigarettes from marlboro.
go ahead and skip to a 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gMzF3aIafY
/u/Vaderman
1 points
3 years ago
Only pussy will die on Covid..... If someone takes all life viamins and suplements... has no immunity. It is just that simple.
/u/mailordercrime
1 points
3 years ago
You do realize this is the darknet right? out of all the nefarious things to rant about banning, you pick the most useless? Lmao.
/u/spqr99
1 points
3 years ago
>COVID-19 is decimating our population and making the world we live in a worse place overall.

Are you retarded? The world population grew 200 million since 2020.
/u/DrFeelGood141
1 points
3 years ago
No, let these no-vax fuckers die, let those bodies hit the floor.
/u/maxp84z
1 points
3 years ago
The vaccines are more dangerous than covid. ive had covid, it sucked but i didnt feel I was knocking on deaths door. I think if you have the natural antibodies you should be classified as vaccinated. I still do my part and wear my mask when appropriate and wash my hands. I dont want to get it again. Lots of ppl who are anti vaccine already had covid and we are left scratching our heads on we shut the country down for this? AND I dont live in some po dunk town, i live in los angeles, i dont know a single person who died from covid or hospitalized. Now through a daisy chain of contacts, yes Ive heard of a couple of deaths, but its crazy rare, these arent ppl Ive never met in passing, I keep track of a guy who works at the local supermarket down the block, He works in customer service, I ask him hows its going with covid, has he heard about any deaths, NOPE, none. and he essentially sees thousands of ppl. hes also a hardcore democrat. Now he got the vaccine because he hated the mask and they allowed vaccinated ppl to not wear masks for a couple weeks before they put the kibosh on that. L.A. is very oppressive when it comes to vaccines. They also dont count ppl who already had covid as vaccinated. Which a lot of ppl have had it, some ppl had it and boy did it suck, i know a couple ppl like this, and they got vaccinated, others are like, ehhh it wasnt that bad.
/u/LionBeard
1 points
3 years ago
Had to stop at "decimating the population"

You understand that the word decimate has a meaning. That meaning is that 10% of a population is killed.

Now, the death rate IF you get the virus is less than 1%. Yes 600,000+ Americans have died. Yet the average age of death is still greater than the average life expectancy. Sorry old people are dying. We can do what we can to protect them and they can have all the vaccines they want.

But, it is evil to force people to get a vaccine to patricipate in society. It is also just an admission that the vaccines don't work because you wouldn't have to force anyone to get a vaccine if they were that good. If they were that good, only the unvaccinated would die of covid, yet that just isn't true.
/u/realcanadianpotstore
1 points
3 years ago
maybe while your at it you should tell everyone what religion and political views are correct.
/u/Jskipper319
1 points
3 years ago
Is this post real? Use to be you'd never see this level of stupid so blatantly touted as truth. The only harm being caused is your completely uninformed dumb-ass.

Go get your 5th booster shot, remember to also cycle your carbon dioxide back inside yourself because fuck logic and fuck plants, and shut the fuck up.
/u/redhat8888
1 points
3 years ago
The elited called for depopulation in the 1980th
Now they went along with their plan for mass murder
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/the-stupid-will-believe-it-and-ask-to-be-treated-pandemic-to-depopulate-1981/
It will kill you slowly. It takes 10 years according to the inventor of graphene oxide.
/u/mehman666
1 points
3 years ago
Lol you can't get any more ironic than posting shit like this on a drug and fraud forum where literally everyone here engages in illegal activities.

Master troll
/u/PhreakZNGeekz
1 points
3 years ago
i believe in free speech, and also believe you're on the wrong side of history. Stats are fake btw. Also it's about time we all got fake cards, and infiltrated their groups and crazy meetings. Project Veritas pays for that kinda shit!
/u/relode
1 points
3 years ago
what a cocksucker.
/u/thyme77
1 points
3 years ago
Just came here to downvote this shitty thread.
Thanks
/u/chagamushroom
1 points
3 years ago
What a complete brainwashed faggot you are. Should we also ban swear words? The vaccine killed my friend. Nobody i know died from covid except my very healthy, young friend who died a couple days after his second shot from heart failure.
/u/threeohthree
1 points
3 years ago
What a terribly divisive perspective. The history of the world is nothing more than humans being wrong about things, why would it be horrible to have a control group of people that are resisting the official bio/medical policy? I make an effort to avoid GMOs in my diet, why would sign up to turn myself into one? It's hard not to see people proselytizing the government line as simple dupes for corporate imperilaism --under the guise of caring. If you want to get vaccinated then that's cool and your choice. But lets be real. I've known plenty of people vaccinated and unvaccinated that have gotten the virus. Neither group suffered much, both had mild flu like symptons. It's difficult not to see this as an opportunity for a segment of the capitalist class to make a killing. I think there's been like nine new billionaires connected to the pharmaceutical industry since the vaccine roll out. These people aren't motivated by love for humanity, it's money pure and simple.
/u/triangulumwolverine
1 points
3 years ago
I like that you have sources listed to back your claims. That shows you've done some homework on the subject.
Problem is out of the 3 sources you list, only one of them has an actual study#; especially when you consider they have about 47.8M people in that country and the cdc considers them "Level 3: High Covid-19 Levels".
Compare that to america where the cases are somewhere around 4.7M Sourcehttps://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=YUhSMGNITTZMeTkzZDNjdWQyOXliR1J2YldWMFpYSnpMbWx1Wm04dlkyOXliMjVoZG1seWRYTXZZMjkxYm5SeWVTOTFjeTg9# and the population is ~332M.

With my personal experience of not being vaccinated and not wearing a mask, I have been in close proximity to roughly 25,000 clients alone since the start of this pandemic and I only know of 2 people who have died of covid. One was a stage 4 non-small cell lung cancer patient,
the other was over 300lbs and had diabetes as well as grade 4 congestive heart failure. I've had covid, my parents both had covid, and the majority of my town has had covid with only mild symptoms.

So tell me why is it that by me not getting the vaccine I am putting everyone else in danger when a vaccine prevents you from getting sick in the first place? When you get vaccinated against smallpox you don't just magically get it from someone who hasn't been vaccinated.

I could go on for days about this, so if anyone wants to debate, tell me how wrong I am, or just talk, DM me and I'd be happy to discuss further.
/u/jbdouble0seven
1 points
3 years ago
your arguements bullshit. go glue your face to the m25
/u/ddave8935
1 points
3 years ago
okay officer, watevr u say. wr should we send u our name & contact
/u/IamtheonlyGoober
1 points
3 years ago
Did this shill miss the off-ramp to Reddit or what? Insane and hilarious.
/u/Agama33
1 points
3 years ago
They aren't that difficult to make. I don't know why someone would have to buy them.
/u/quantum_leaper
0 points
3 years ago
This is exactly how I'd define the word braindead
/u/warmed_over_mess
0 points
3 years ago
I actually feel sorry for you...you have so bought into this almost completely false narrative that it literally runs your life.

COVID HAS ALMOST THE EXACTLY SAME MORTALITY AS THE FUCKING FLU HAS...APPROX 0.8% AND DATA SHOWS THAT THE DELTA HAS 1/10TH OF THAT RATE. FUCKING COVID IS JUST ANOTHER OF THE HUNDREDS OF FLU VIRII THAT ATTACK US EVERY DAY AND YOU WILL BE TAKING SHOTS FOR IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

Me? I choose LIFE! I REFUSE to live in the government controlled fear-state that our fucked up "leaders" want us perpetually in. Guess what? WE ALL ARE GONNA DIE SOMEDAY OF SOMETHING! Deal with it!

What the statistics fail to tell you is HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT COVID IS SUPPOSEDLY KILLING WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAY! People aren't dying OF COVID...they are dying WITH COVID.

Like I said..I feel sorry for you and people like you who literally think that you just might die if you catch the fucking thing.
/u/StarScream999 📢
2 points
3 years ago*
So, I'm not going to be engaging with unhinged anti-vax conspiracy theorists in my replies here, so if I skip you over you'll know why.

I've spent countless hours debating with anti-vaxxers here on Dread and nobody reads those threads and so they just lost in the shuffle.

So, I'll only say this to you: You are the victim of a vile misinformation campaign that has used ⚠️white propaganda⚠️ and ⚠️black propaganda⚠️ to make you so completely delusional about the COVID-19 virus & vaccine that it has actually altered your thinking patterns.

delusional
/dɪˈluːʒ(ə)n(ə)l/
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adjective
characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
"hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia"
based on or having faulty judgement; mistaken.
"their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers"


So me sitting here and arguing is pointless, because there's no changing your mind - you're completely brainwashed. I realize that term gets thrown around a lot, but it's unfortunately true. I have posted sources in the top post that debunk everything you have just claimed from legitimate medical sources.

Secondly, arguing with a conspiracy theorist is pointless, because they refuse to accept any sources as legitimate, then they just continue to ⚠️move the goal post⚠️ once they've been disproven on one of their points.

Third, conspiracy theorists provide no sources for their claims and if they do, they're usually right wing ultra nationalist media, YouTube videos from random people who have no medical or scientific knowledge that contain no source for the claims the articles make they're making either.

Part 1 of 2
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago*
Fourth, all anti-vax conspiracy theories suffer from a condition called ⚠️cognitive dissonance⚠️

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the perception of contradictory information. Relevant items of information include a person's actions, feelings, ideas, beliefs, and values, and things in the environment. Cognitive dissonance is typically experienced as psychological stress when they participate in an action that goes against one or more of them.[1] According to this theory, when two actions or ideas are not psychologically consistent with each other, people do all in their power to change them until they become consistent.[1][2] The discomfort is triggered by the person's belief clashing with new information perceived, wherein they try to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.


So, in laymens terms, when they hear contradictory information from their warped worldview that it triggers them and they get angry and throw a tantrum, and, as is clear above, this poster is quite angry at me for suggesting covid might be real or the vaccine might actually work. They made no attempt to source their claims, used excessive capital letters, and have no coherent argument that can be debated against.

The anti-vax movement is a dangerous new trend in modern times, and I feel legitimately sorry for people who have succumb to the propaganda, lies, mis/disinformation that have been spread by people with a specific political agenda and it has lead to numerous deaths.

⚠️Anti-vaccine movement is one of the ten threats to global health⚠️

⚠️Texas ‘freedom defender’ who rallied against COVID-19 measures dies of COVID⚠️

⚠️An Anti-vax radio host who compared the government asking people to get vaccinated to "Nazis" has died from COVID-19⚠️

⚠️Conservative Radio Host Dies of Covid After Claiming Vaccines Were Tested on Aborted Fetuses⚠️

And I could go on and on with these types of deaths of anti-vaxxers.

All of the Covid conspiracy theories have one or more of these commonalities:

A) Covid is fake and the government is lying about it
B) The vaccine doesn't work and is dangerous to take
C) The vaccine is being forced on people by an "authoritarian government"
D) They believe that they have the right to refuse to be vaccinated and are convinced they're a persecuted minority and make statements like "my body my choice", when they already have been vaccinated their whole lives and those vaccines have more than likely saved their life. You got vaccinated as a baby, you were required to get a list of vaccines to attend school, and if you want to or have traveled internationally you will sometimes be required to be vaccinated against one or more of the prominent diseases in that area.

What these anti-vaxxers don't realize is that we live in a time in history where medical science has advanced so far that diseases in previous centuries would have killed them in childhood like cholera, dysentery, small pox and so forth. They don't realize that they've grown up in an age of antibiotics that will also cure them, where people in previous centuries might have died from a single prick of the finger that caused sepsis and died. They didn't have to live through the age of polio where people caught that disease randomly and then were crippled for the rest of their lives. They have no concept of history or realized how privileged they really are.
Or some derivative or combination of any of the above.

What these people are going to soon realize is that they are going to get mandated to be vaccinated one way or another and it's simply unavoidable. It's going to be required to be employed, to travel, to access public events, and etc. I'll post a tweet from Geraldo do demonstrate my point.

Hearing crazy talk on cable TV right now about folks having the constitutional right not to get vaccinated.

Yes (they may be dopey) but they do have that right.

We too have rights: to deny the unvaccinated access to our home, school or business.

⚠️Source⚠️

Part 2 of 2
/u/dandm2003
1 points
3 years ago
you suffer from a condition called retardation must be genetic
/u/CVty56732
1 points
3 years ago
There are more retard cases than Covid cases. maybe Phizer should get in their lab and do about that. Oh hang on they did.
/u/jayfarms
1 points
3 years ago
Okay well after that 20 minute read of all these comments some very informative and others being nothing more than excuses to insult, I still havent had anyone touch on the first and in my opinion the more important question of the 2 I asked so I will ask again.

How is it possible that since Covid-19 first emerged I have witnessed more people personally fall victim and die to fentynal (at least 40 all of whom I can but out of respect for their lives and families I wont name) even though every statistic I can find says that Covid has killed at least 20x more in every community in North America but yet somehow I dont know a single person first hand (I say that only because of a distant family member who claims to have worked with a man who died of covid in the beginning stages of the pandemic but I cannot attest to), something about that is giving me a very suspicious vibe, i mean how is that possible when you have one of the 2 that does not discriminate, and anyone is at risk for it, but on the other hand fentynal is only a risk to drug users and possibly their loves ones due to the drug user/dealers own negligence. This baffles me and if someone could please touch on it so that maybe what ever im missing can be pointed out it would be much appreciated.
/u/jayfarms
1 points
3 years ago
And i did read your comment link to your answer but it didnt come close to answering how is that statistically possible? i mean no offence by that I just mean your basically saying well it might be due to my community in which i live possibly following most covid guidelines, but I assure you that is not the case, id say its about 50/50 on the topic of pro or anti vax/mask. I just want to know how form a logical point of view those statistic arent adding up to my own and I imagine many others peoples personal experiences
/u/OffWhiteKix
1 points
3 years ago
so you're basing your idea narrative on you not knowing anyone? Karl Anthony-Towns a professional basketball player lost i believe 3 or 4 close family members to covid. what would you say to him?
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
I answered this in my other post. But, you are relying on your own personal anecdotal experience, when the science says otherwise.

You are using this a a logical fallacy and I HIGHLY recommend you read this article to understand more about it.

⚠️Anecdotal Fallacy: Why Is The Use of Anecdotal Evidence Fallacious?⚠️

⚠️Anecdotal evidence⚠️
/u/CVty56732
1 points
3 years ago
White propaganda haha very funny.
Go read the pharma company websites. They all say this is not a vaccine. They all say it does not stop you catching or spreading it. So what is it?
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
The pharma companies say that a vaccine is not a vaccine? Sure, whatever you say.
/u/rigmarole
1 points
3 years ago
The difference is how significantly more transmissible Covid is than the flu.

Imagine being this scared of a virus you're in total denial. It's really not that deep, diseases aren't new, vaccines aren't new.
/u/whatwhen
0 points
3 years ago
It's almost like selling fent. You are fucking people on purpose
/u/Lawnman201x
0 points
3 years ago
I think its a good idea too. Politicians let some shit slide or put on the back burner. But with this covid bullshit hype going on, it's best we probably dont bring the unwanted attention eh? seems like a game of politics that we need to just fuckin let pass. it's ok, you can rip me.
/u/wolvesdontsleep
0 points
3 years ago
Can someone please recommend a good physical Passport vendor? With good reviews on the marketplace??? btw to author, have you really investigated WHY people are saying not to get vaccinated? There are some VERY compelling peer based reviews of why not to take this ibjection which is produced by some evil ass corps that have produced some nasty and evil shit in the past. Happy researching.
/u/tslamoon
2 points
3 years ago
you think this brainwashed npc is going to do actual research instead of copy pasting walls of text he hasn't even read himself?
/u/viegoson
1 points
3 years ago
looking as well
/u/songokuchichi
1 points
3 years ago
I have a source for legit vax cards
/u/catmando
0 points
3 years ago
what the hell is wrong with go peddle your brainwashed rubbish on CNN. its been 2 years this so called pandemic has been going on and i dont know 1 person who has died from covid. its a flu nothing more wake the f*&k up.
/u/starfyre
2 points
3 years ago
Shut the fuck up. Seriously. Tell that to the 700,000+ people (US) who have died from it you cretinous cunt.
/u/donjuan4
0 points
3 years ago
OK Mr CPU. Just repeat what the powers that be tell you, without question. You troglodyte! Your saying the threat to vaccinated people are unvaccinated poeple? That's what the vaccine is for! STFU!
/u/theshunsimp
0 points
3 years ago
" ask your doctor for their advise and don't listen to the insane ramblings of anti-vax people on the internet."

>Crys when the doctors says not to get it

Nice try fed
/u/untowpwoa
0 points
3 years ago
StarScream999 is a fed. Only the government and useful idiots push vaccines this hard.
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
Are you seriously this dumb? First of all, the whole point of my argument here is to ban fake COVID-19 cards to prevent the spread of disease throughout society.
/u/buysomedrugs
1 points
3 years ago
You know i think this may be true. All the data he refers to is garbage. No normal person believes the scamdemic
/u/CletusKasady
0 points
3 years ago
Retard Alert!
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
Someone doesn't have an argument alert!
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago
Still waiting for /u/paris to make a final verdict on this.
/u/finger_me_please69
0 points
3 years ago
Shut the fuck up you worthless faggot. I'm not going to!

Take this downvote and enjoy your -34 score account retard, haha!

Go fuck yourself loser!
/u/Thunderbandit
0 points
3 years ago
LMFAO STFU with that bullshit propaganda, fuck you
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago
As you might have noticed, I have avoided posting in this thread for several days because I knew it would bring out the lunatic brigade. As I have mentioned, I ⚠️will not engage with COVID anti-vaxxers⚠️ due to the reasons mentioned in the link I posted.

However, I do want to share with you one final attempt to persuade the lost anti-vaxxers towards the light. I come from the Carl Sagan school of skepticism and when you hear these conspiracy theories, you have to be skeptical about them. I would say a required reading book for everyone is Carl Sagan's ⚠️The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark⚠️.

It goes through and explains rational reasoning, understanding skeptical thought, understanding the scientific method, and breaking down the falsehoods of pseudoscience (which all you anti-vaxxers have bought into) and Carl's Baloney Detection Kit, which if you don't buy the book, you can read here ⚠️The Baloney Detection Kit: Carl Sagan’s Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thinking⚠️

I also haven't responded to the dumb insults to me in this thread because if you can't make a coherent, cognizant and comprehension argument that includes sources to your claims, there's no point in me responding to you. You're simply a very naive and insecure person and can't get over the fact that someone has a different worldview than yours that you've turned into a hivemind of people simply reinforcing your beliefs rather than looking at the evidence and drawing your own conclusions, you have been completely brainwashed by the propaganda of those with an agenda to feed you false information that you become a little "bee" who has come out of the hive to spread more misinformation to people to feed them a completely false narrative to scare them into not getting vaccinated.

The COVID-19 patient’s health was deteriorating quickly at a Michigan hospital, but he was having none of the doctor’s diagnosis. Despite dangerously low oxygen levels, the unvaccinated man didn’t think he was that sick and got so irate over a hospital policy forbidding his wife from being at his bedside that he threatened to walk out of the building.

Dr. Matthew Trunsky didn’t hold back in his response: “You are welcome to leave, but you will be dead before you get to your car,’” he said.

Such exchanges have become all-too-common for medical workers who are growing weary of ⚠️COVID-19 denial and misinformation⚠️ that have made it exasperating to treat unvaccinated patients during the delta-driven surge.


⚠️Doctors grow frustrated over COVID-19 denial, misinformation⚠️
/u/StarScream999 📢
0 points
3 years ago*
As I've said multiple times, I'm done arguing with you anti-vaxxers. Your lunacy is behind compare here. I had no idea there was so many irrational people on this site. Completely nuts.

The insults and downvotes against me for having a different opinion than you and all the other completely garbage posts are truly astonishing. The absolutely hatred, misniformation, and ridiculous intrigue is unbelievable. It's obvious that people of a certain right wing political persuasion have been completely brainwashed. So, read the link below if you want to know more. Also I've seen a lot of people say I haven't been vaccinated, which is very bizarre. I've had both my shots and am fully vaccinated. This will be my last post in this thread.

⚠️Why I don't argue with COVID-19 Anti-Vaxxers & The Truth About Vaccine Deaths (TL;DR)⚠️
/u/[deleted]
1 points
3 years ago
Please Please make it REALLY your last post. You say how you are constantly insulted regarding your posts, yet looking back your posts contain the most degrading ,insulting, childish name calling of any on the site. We should Believe the research put out by bigpharma its not about the $$$$$. We should Believe the words from Biden, Fauci the CDC it's not political. yea right.
/u/Jskipper319
1 points
3 years ago
It's because you are wrong and your lies hurt others. Glad I could help.
/u/dandm2003
-1 points
3 years ago
you support kicking people like me out of the workforce because i don't want that sh@t in me? Go F yourself. Fake cards for all
/u/ddsdds19
0 points
3 years ago
hey do you have a good source to get the fake card? qr code to enter restaurants etc , ty

i need it
/u/StarScream999 📢
-3 points
3 years ago*
Here are some of the results that can happen when you take part in this deplorable action.

This Alabama doctor says this about her Covid patients, some of whom are dying: ⚠️One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” (AL.com)⚠️

This is how brainwashed some people are by these conspiracy theories about COVID and the vaccine and the tragedies that happen from this mentality:

A Michigan doctor says some COVID-19 patients continue to deny their diagnosis or denounce vaccines from their deathbeds.

"You’re wrong doctor. I don't have COVID" and "I'd rather die than take the vaccine" were among the eight examples he shared in a Facebook post earlier in September.

Trunsky told The Washington Post medical staff have at times been berated by patients and their family members. He said over 100 of his patients have died from the coronavirus and 9 out of 10 COVID patients are unvaccinated.

[...]

In his plea for more people to get vaccinated, Trunsky shared that his experience with eight patients. Six out of the eight died, the other two remain in critical condition, he told The Post.


⚠️'I don't have COVID': Doctor says some COVID patients deny virus, decry vaccines from their deathbed (USA Today)⚠️

⚠️Mother of 8 Dies of COVID-19 Complications After Spending a Week on Ventilator: A 'Nightmare' (People)⚠️ - She wasn't vaccinated.

⚠️Unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated' mother-of-four dies of COVID (Daily Mail)⚠️ - She was an anti-vaxxer.

Now, in regards to buying fake COVID-19 vaccine cards,

As the delta variant of the coronavirus sweeps across the United States, a growing number of colleges and universities are requiring proof of COVID-19 vaccination for students to attend in-person classes. But the new mandate has opened the door for those opposed to getting the vaccine to cheat the system, according to interviews with students, education and law enforcement officials.

Across the internet, a cottage industry has sprung up to accommodate people who say they won’t get vaccinated for either personal or religious reasons.

[...]

In March, the concern over fake COVID-19 vaccination cards prompted the FBI to issue a joint statement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services urging people not to buy, create or sell fabricated vaccine cards.

The unauthorized use of the seal of an official government agency such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a federal crime that carries a possible fine and a maximum of five years in prison.

[...]

Sellers on websites such as Counterfeit Center, Jimmy Black Market, and Buy Express Documents list COVID-19 vaccine cards, certificates and passports for sale, some costing €400 Euros or about $473.49.

An advertisement on the website Buy Real Fake Passport reads vendors can produce fake vaccination cards by the thousands, if not tens of thousands, based on the demand.

[...]

In July, the U.S. Department of Justice announced its first federal criminal fraud prosecution involving a fake COVID-19 immunization and vaccination card scheme. Juli A. Mazi, 41, a naturopathic physician in Napa, California, was arrested and charged with one count of wire fraud and one count of false statements related to health care matters.


⚠️Fake COVID-19 vaccination cards worry college officials (AP)⚠️

Know that buying fake vaccine cards, making your own, or filling in blank cards with false information is illegal and could get you fined, or even land you in jail. Don’t share personal information with people you don’t know. Scammers will turn the tables and sell your data or use it to commit identity theft.


⚠️Don’t buy fake COVID-19 vaccine cards or negative test results. Here’s why (FTC)⚠️

Dear Dread Mods & Admins: I know you will make the right decision here and prohibit the sale of bogus COVID-19 Vaccination Cards in the forum. There is simply no excuse for allowing it to continue. It's harmful. It's dangerous. It undermines our American values as a whole and it's an absolutely scummy thing to do.

Thank you for taking the time to read this


A sad postscript to this story, but it has now been confirmed that 700,000 Americans have died from the COVID-19 virus.
⚠️Source⚠️
/u/dannyboys FLAIR
2 points
3 years ago
Listen, at what point do you draw the line? I guarantee drug users end up in hospital or urgent care or are a draw on community resources moreso than those who do not use. Personally, I am extremely pro-vax and yes, I think it's ridiculous to be against - but who decides really what crosses the line and what doesn't. I think that's what this space is all about - to do and be who you want and to access things you may want which are deemed unacceptable by society - whether they be drugs, or pornography, or vaccine cards. I agree with you wholeheartedly but people will do what they want to do. I am sure there are plenty of people who think purchasing drugs is reprehensible - and I have to say there are those who are purchasing cards because they have to - because they have some sort of autoimmune complications or other health reasons and are being pushed in a corner. With that being said, this is an interesting space as it really showcases the 4 corners of the political spectrum - and I will tell you where I am on it - nothing to hide. There are the ultra left progressive interventionist drug use as a health issue not a criminal issue - that's me. Then we have the libertarian sect who believe firmly in individual rights and choice and no one especially not big government to tell them what and what not to do. It's a big tent here my friend. And while I vend real COVID cards - they are not fakes - I am in fact ideologically opposed to people not getting vaccinated. But I am even moreso against guns - and christ any piece of shit can walk into walmart and buy a rifle. I am anti-gun and I am assuming you are - but you must also demand that no guns be sold either. Or anything you are against for that matter. It's a slippery slope and who is judge and jury really is a self-selected apointment in these types of situations. What the real issue is the poor education system in America and the commercialization and sensationalization of news, and the heavy inflow of money into politics. This is just a mere symptom of a much much much larger problem.
/u/StarScream999 📢
1 points
3 years ago
>Listen, at what point do you draw the line?

I anticipated this line of disagreement with my proposal, but, unfortunately because of the character limit of the post I was unable to include. But, like I said - getting a fake COVID-19 card has less to do with the personal choices YOU makes for YOURSELF, but you're endangering the lives of other people by making the choice to fake your vaccine status.

In terms of drug usage, I am firmly in the libertarian camp that every person should be able to choose what goes into their body. But, when you are making decisions that effect others around you with potential personal harm and death, that is where we draw the line. This is why I made the analogy of this being similar to having your drugs cut with fentanyl. You didn't ask to purchase fentanyl, just like you didn't ask to get COVID. But because of other people's reckless negligence, you wind up dead or severely injured.

>Personally, I am extremely pro-vax and yes, I think it's ridiculous to be against - but who decides really what crosses the line and what doesn't.

This is why I am attempting to present my argument in a coherent, cognitive, a well balanced manner. I am not trying to turn this forum into Reddit, but you have to realize that there are ALREADY rules about subjects that can't be discussed on here and are completely prohibited, such as the discussion about weapons (particularly firearms) and their sales.

>I am sure there are plenty of people who think purchasing drugs is reprehensible

Again, I already addressed this in my initial argument and the above statement. We have to come together a a COMMUNITY and agree that selling fake Covid cards is an act that cannot be tolerated, just as discussion of sales of firearms, because they can not just harm YOU but everyone around you.

>It's a slippery slope and who is judge and jury really is a self-selected apointment in these types of situations.

I do agree with the majority of your argument and find it validating to find someone who is willing to engage in some civil discourse, unlike the other mouth breathing morons who posted in this thread.

But saying this is a "slippery slope" is a bit of an exaggeration, I believe. We have to realize we are only one tiny corner of the internet, on the dark web, where very few people outside in the general public choose to traverse or even know exists.

Every site has to have some kinds of rules in place or it would be total anarchy and chaos and no legitimate discussions in place. This is why I choose to take this topic on and present it directly to the moderators and administrators of this forum, as I view it as a position of being so morally objectionable it simply cannot be tolerated. However, it is the final decision of the mods/admins to make the call as they own and operate the forum and can choose to run it in the manner they choose.

However, I appreciate you expressing your opinion in a calm, collected and civilized manner and thank you for your input on the issue.
-SS
/u/OffWhiteKix
1 points
3 years ago
i just want to say thank you for this thread and your comments in here. i can't lie, i was pretty shocked by a lot of the responses in here. the fact this has turned into a political argument is mind boggling to me. we as a species need to come together to do what we can to mitigate covid... and that means getting vaxxed, whether you like it or not. it's insane that people who stick needles in their arm everyday (i was one of them so no judgement) or smoke meth can say something like "you don't know what's in the vaccine"
/u/songokuchichi
1 points
3 years ago
man how tf this weird ass dude find dread. This shit mainstream for sure now SMH