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My personal review of a cheap pressing operation set up. : murderhomelesspeople | Torhoo darknet markets

So, I've had the big boy VH-8 and TDP-5. I love the mixer, the TDP-5 is a love-hate relationship. If you don't bolt down your TDP-5, you will NEVER have consistent tablet size. That thing bangs around like a mother fucker. Even when it is bolted down, it will still slowly move the "size bolt" as like to call it. It's loud, it's clunky, it needs to be babysat, it spits out powder like a fucking hose, but it dose get the job done. It's a solid pressing machine. I have broke that machine down and put it back together to and from bare frame. I know my way around it.

The VH-8 mixer is LARGE AND HEAVY but it's a fucking beast. No complaints. Love it. I mean...it's a mixer...it mixes. They all work the same.

I wanted to try a cheaper operation build out. Where you could have a whole lab for cheap. You might not be able to press out you know, large vendor numbers, but for a small local operation? I wanted to find out.

The VH-2

This thing is comically tiny and, surprisingly, the most expensive part. At $750 shipped, I was a little shocked at the price tag for this machine. I mean, the width of the machine is a LONG...9 inches...and it's about 13ish inches tall. From the very end to end, it's not even 2 feet long. It's TINY. The barrel can only hold 0.8 liters of powder. You'll have to do molar mass calculations to get grams to liters here but don't expect to mix much.

Which, isn't that big of an issue because mixing only takes about 15 to 20 minutes for a nice mixture so you can pump out a few batches in an hour and get to work. Pairing this with the TDP-0 is almost perfect because your "pills per day is very limited so you don't need much powder mixed up. A VH-8 would just be unnecessary for a TDP-0.

I think for $750 shipped, it's a tad pricey but, pairing with the TDP-0, it's a solid option.

The TDP-0

The one you want to hear about. First, price, I know everyone wants to know. This machine was shipped from the USA. It was $500 exactly, including shipping. I got it in under a week.

Now, the weight and size of the machine. It weighs 65ish pounds. It's not hard to move but it is a very awkward shape so it will take you by surprise. Much lighter than the TDP-5 I have, as that thing weighs over 200 pounds. NOT easy to move. It's small and light so it's easy to put away and take out without much hassle. It still feels solid though, you're not going to just tip it over and it won't be bouncing around the table.

The review of the actual operation of the machine is going to depend on how you look at things. When you are sitting there cranking out pills? Yeah...you'll be dreaming of the TDP-5 or even a TDP-1.5(The electric TDP-0). It's a fucking workout, I'm not going to lie. I don't think I could sit there and crank out 1000 pills out of this thing in one sitting. Maybe over the course of a day but I don't know. It's rough.

But there's some beauty behind it. It doesn't need power. You can have this machine anywhere. It doesn't make much noise. The TDP-5 will sound like a hammer constantly hitting a metal table, to compare it to something. It doesn't really spit powder out as much as the TDP-5. The chance of it having a tracker installed are very slim because, well, it doesn't have anything to power a tracker. There's not as many mechanical errors to correct. If you've ever had a TDP-5 machine stuck, you know how fun those are.

i don't know, for $500 all in, it truly is an amazing machine.

Can it press bars?
/u/HereWeGo1243 P
2 points
1 week ago
Solid post, Good shit.

+1 and some stupid award for you, you get doge award
/u/Silent_Cal P
1 points
1 week ago
This is good! You might want to post in /d/DrugManufacture, too (they don't allow xposts).
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
Did, it's pending approval. That's actually why I posted it here.
/u/Silent_Cal P
1 points
1 week ago
Cool, thank you :)
/u/ViolentRuski
1 points
1 week ago*
Hella interesting bro. If you have a friend or know someone with a machine shop, there's a few add-ons that can really make the zero shine. Like a larger hopper for starters! It can be powered for really cheap using basically a brushless motor and a rasberry pie for a controller but this also increases its noise by a good deal and will wear some parts faster. But thats an easy fix. And yah it's light, but too light! Honestly it's best to add some weight to the base plate( dampens the sound even more), dumb as that may sound. And perhaps it is harder to hide a tracker but it's lack of power never made me feel 100%. I still argue it's best to faraday your op room cuz it's simple and cheap and def reduces risk.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
I'd say just work your way up to a machine that's actually made for a bigger operation like the ZP-9 or 10. Don't try to force something that just isn't. Use the tool for what it's made for and upgrade when you need to.
/u/ViolentRuski
1 points
1 week ago
Well of course. But ya gotta start somewhere. Spending a week cranking that fckin handle would change anyones mind lmao
/u/ViolentRuski
1 points
1 week ago
And the sound of the gears crunching uuuugggg trust me it could drive anyone mad. Your first instinct is to add grease BUT DONT. EVER.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
Well, to be fair, your first decent sized batch out of a TDP-0 should let you invest in a better machine. Powder is dirt cheap compared to a finished product.

But yeah, cranking that machine for a week would really get you motivated to get it out of your operation lmaooo.
/u/ViolentRuski
1 points
1 week ago
Yah the price is hardly the problem, it was more about upgrading securely. In a way you could trust the security too.
/u/riskinality
1 points
1 week ago
what powder would one need to press rp 10-30's?
/u/marshbad
1 points
1 week ago
ever worked with a zp-9 and and your forgetting about having the stamps of whatever your pressing good solid post though.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
Shit, I did forget to add those in the list. You an usually find them for $40-60 though from China. I'd have at least 3 on hand.

If I were going to actually press pills to sell, I would buy a ZP-9/10. They are miles better than the TDP's, The big issues are cost, they cost about $3000 BEFORE shipping and it's like a 400-600 pound machine, assembly...as they'd come disassembled so they could get through customs. It's a big boy so you'd have to be better equipped to handle large machines.
/u/marshbad
1 points
6 days ago
o i know ive been in the around one at one time when i got paid 10k to help a friend get it dropped (zp-9 that is) make a faraday box in the back of a ford moving truck completely disassemble it looking for dea tracking devices and then help him rebuild it inside a space room just like Alpraking had now this is going on 10 years ago when alot of people didn't know for around 3400-3600 you could have a zp-9 drop shipped to a weekly motel under a tweakers name i was alot younger had alot more balls and it was a close friend that had 40k and said he was gonna figure it out with or without me so i said fuck ill help you so you don't go to the feds... (he wen't to the fed but not for 2 more years)
/u/14bdoking
1 points
5 days ago
Did he go to the feds for pressing the xans in the long run? lol
/u/woodienorcal 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
or you could just buy the die set and use hydraulic press to press tablets. Its slower but cheaper.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
Eh, I like to have tools that are made for the work you are doing. It's proven effective, why try and make things difficult to save a buck?
/u/SlovenianPlugInUSA
1 points
1 week ago
Pressing is a rapid route to $20,000+ monthly income :)

More should learn.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
2 points
1 week ago
The profit on being able to successfully run a press is wild. Become a vendor, press good quality, and retire in a couple years with a million.
/u/jake0126
1 points
1 week ago
Where do you find a solid plug for the active chemicals like CloBrom or bromazolam though?

That's always whats been stopping me from pressing, i obviously can't get it from a DNM vendor because they are upping the price already and get it for a lot cheaper, and must get it from somewhere.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
5 days ago
You can easily get the powder from the DNM's. Do the math. The profit is still there and you can find even cheaper powder from China on the DNM's.

No sourcing though. Do your research.
/u/jake0126
1 points
1 week ago
great post!

I've always wanted to start pressing.
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
1 week ago
There's a bit of math to pressing but it's really not that bad or hard. The hardest part is always just starting.
/u/marshbad
1 points
6 days ago
id say hardest part is getting the math down on a v-8 mixer if you dont already have a mixture guide to go off of like AK posted a few years ago before he retired alot of trial and error that and dissembling and reassembling to check for trackers and making a correct space room (tent)
/u/TeachUHow2Trap 📢 Owner
1 points
6 days ago
The math is honestly not that bad. Especially if you used an already mixed up binding powder(Think Firmapress, but there's 100 other ones you can use).