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n-desethyl-isotanazene : Opiates | Torhoo darknet markets

Hello,

life hasnt been too well lately been searching the markets for stronger opiates (used to to heroin 1-2 years ago but quit eventually). Is there any fent presses at all available, only found n-desethyl-isotanazene which according to google is 20x stronger than fent. Its about 1.5€/pc for 100. Anyone has prior experience/dosage recommendation? It says you should start with a quarter pill
/u/gumbososa
3 points
1 year ago
If you haven't used opiates in a while you definitely shouldn't jump straight to isotonitazene. And as far as dosing goes, if you are going to use it, make sure you know how much is supposed to be in each pill and then dissolve them in water so you can get a more accurate dosage. I wish you all the best, I know how it is, 6 months clean myself.
/u/flyraccoon23 📢
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you, I appreciate it
/u/koldstyle420
2 points
1 year ago
This is not any sort of path you should willingly walk down at all. with a clean tolerance this just sounds like a disaster. the Zenes and Xylizine make fetty look tame.
And we all know how dangerous fetty is. Now you are lucky if you can find reasonably fetty presses. Even heroin is hard to find without fetty and other sythentic analogs, and they are almost always more dangerous than fetty itself.

I dont want to sounds like the drugs are bud kind of guy either, but we are crossing the line of drugs into poison at this point. You wont find many good stories about the chemicals you have listed, but there will be more reading material than you can sift through talking about how deadly this stuff is, and these are veteran users.

on top of all the negative effects zenes cause, the withdrawals they cause make you're standard hardcore opiate withdrawal akin to quitting weed, and if you are start out looking for zenen presses, how long until you progress to just striahgt up mainlining fetty or something bananas? What happens when you try and stop the zenes and cant handle the withdrawals? I am no one to lecture you, but I just want to make sure you thought this through, know what you are getting into, and accept and understand the dangers and consequences of messing with these types of RC analogs.

Safety over all. I wish you well friend, truly.
/u/flyraccoon23 📢
1 points
1 year ago
You are probably right I would rather take fentanyl ones which already probably sounds like the dumbest thing you can say. Its just I havent really been feeling alive if i had to put it into words and I feel like I need something to remind me I am. I still havent ordered it yet and ill think twice before doing so.
/u/readytodie1
1 points
1 year ago
why dont you just order some bth instead of a zene? seems like a better high and longer one too with a way less chance of od. and i hear zenes permanently jack up your tolerance. good luck
jumping straight to fent is crazy with no tolerance

/u/flyraccoon23

Don't get it fucked up. Heroin is the superior drug. It provides more euphoria. It 100% will feel better than doing fent when you have a normal tolerance. Fent is more "potent" but when you have 0 tolerance, that shit doesn't matter. It'll only make you more likely to die.

That's why all of us who started with heroin are in an eternal search for fent-free dope.

TBH you sound really depressed and I would not advise doing drugs to try to fill that hole. Only bad things happen.

That said, it's not up to me, so I hope you will at least be safe - since your tolerance is so low, start with a tiny dose and work your way up.

Most of the friends I've lost happened right after they relapsed, not realizing their tolerance had dropped so much

Edit: everything I said about fent applies to zenes also
/u/witch
2 points
1 year ago*
Would not trust any press using Isotonitazene purely because you have no way of measuring the exact amount of material. The only way you could dose this safely is by making a volumetric solution. Isotonitazene is quite insoluble in water as far as I can tell. Some people have had success using a mixture of distilled water and high-proof alcohol. The only way I was able to get any to dissolve in water is by placing the iso and water in a vial and resting it in a hot water bath for a few hours, taking it out every 20-30 minutes to shake the vial vigorously.

Even though I was able to make a volumetric solution, I overdosed about 4 times. There's really no warning with this stuff. You take a few hits of it, you feel good, you think you could go for another hit of it, and it's lights out.

This is true for anything that potent, I guess. But if you're using iso you should prepare for an overdose. Have Naloxone and make sure someone watches you. I wouldn't be typing this right now if I didn't have my partner around to save me.

EDIT: I want to add that it's a pretty shitty opioid. Far more nausea and vomiting from iso than any other opioid I've used. Even with lower doses, nausea was a consistent problem.
/u/flyraccoon23 📢
1 points
1 year ago
Did you know how much you took? Im guessing its in the low microgram area. I still havent ordered and I might not at all but just in case ill probably start off with an 8th of a pill, vendor says a quarter. Rather be safe than sorry. Glad your still around
/u/ActionCaptainJack
2 points
1 year ago
It's 15x stronger than pure, pharma-grade fent (1,500x more potent than morphine, with fentanyl being 100x more potent than morphine).

But, those pills usually only include 1-3 mg fentanyl (let's say 2mg on average). So I imagine they're including like, an eighth to a quarter of a milligram of N-desethyl-isotonitazene, which would be approximately the same as 2-4mg fent. But I can't say for sure. I could be way off. They could include 1mg, which is like, 15mg fent, or about 7-8 fent pills combined.

All I know is they try to make them feel the same as the fent pills, and by using way less they save tons of money. Why put 1mg in which makes the pill 8x stronger than ppl are used to and risk killing customers, when you can use 0.125 mg, have it equivalent to normal fent presses and make 8x as many pills.

But nobody knows for sure how much is in that pill until it's tested. I'm just reasoning through the most logical likelihoods
/u/flyraccoon23 📢
1 points
1 year ago
I asked the vendor, apparently its 1mg of n-desethyl-isotonitazene per pill which sounds like a lot considering psychonaut lists a heavy fent dose at 75+ ug
/u/ActionCaptainJack
1 points
1 year ago
Ehhhh... it takes 2mg of fent for an opioid naive person to have a 50% chance of dying. A user with tolerance can take more, sometimes much more. 75 micrograms is an extremely tiny amount of fent, especially for a user.

1mg of this stuff is a lot though, that's for sure. Granted, the multiplier changes drastically depending on ROA. Orally it's probably right on target. But intranasal? Ya, that's rough. Equivalent to 15mg fent??? Sheesh. Most pills are 2mg fent. So it's gonna be 7-8x stronger than ppl are used to.

Definitely something to be aware of
/u/redshark221
1 points
1 year ago
Anybody having problems getting past the catche used perma link and private links and even .so....
/u/transdrainer2
1 points
1 year ago
i havent used NDI but i recently tried NDE and the withdrawals from that almost made me believe in hell. i thought i would be fine cuz i could manage fent wds but it's exponentially worse. like ik like everyone says zene wds are worse than fent but there's a difference between reading it online and feeling it. trust u do not wanna feel it. as much as im a fent hater i'd much rather go back to fent than continue doing zenes. like i was fully convinced i was in the metro 2033 universe for like 3 full days. like i was throwing up 18th century bodily humors. im pretty sure i lost like 10-15lbs bc i couldn't hold down food or water until like day 3/4 (but now my waist snatched so silver lining ig). point is the wds are indescribably worse than fent for stuff that, ime, didn't feel that much different from fent.
/u/TenPhones
1 points
1 year ago
which venor carries these n-desethyl isotanitazene 30s on what market ? ive been looking for this zene for like a week now and refuse to use bohemia rn.
/u/pulsar23
0 points
1 year ago
guys where do you plan / where I can buy Isotonitazene plzzz ?