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- -Here follows the official Nightmare market statement-

As of lately accusations have surfaced about the Nightmare market/admin 'scamming' a Vendor and Buyer.
More specific the Vendor Turkishtaurus.

Recently the Vendor Turkishtaurus has been banned from the Nightmare market due to the following terms violations:
*any form of padding (positive and negative) of a Vendors feedback will result in an instant and permanent ban from the Nightmare market. Padding involves comments and ratings which are not legitmate customer experiences*.
These policies have been set in place to secure a safe and scamfree market for the buyers and to ensure them the best possible market experience.

Since the Vendor Turkishtaurus has violated these terms his account was banned/blocked which prohibits any logging in and therefor also locks the coins within the wallet on the account. These coins will NOT be refunded to the vendor after he has been banned due to term violations. This has been agreed on by the Vendor at the point of creation of his Vendor account and should therefor be acknowledged by him.
However if the Vendor and Buyer can prove that the coins still in the account are the Buyers due to non completed sale, we will start a futher investigation aiming to refunding the coins to the buyer.

The non refund policy is in place to stop scammers from scamming on markets, this policy allows us the withhold any funds that are still on the Vendors account after a ban resulted.

The Vendor Turkishtaurus sold guns (glocks, ak47's,...) from USA to Worldwide, since we do not stand behind this product we have removed it totally from our market, therefor Nightmare market does not allow Vendors to sell gun's anymore. Selling gun's on the Nightmare market will result in an immediate ban for which the same rules apply as mentioned above.

Thank you for your attention,
Inquiries or questions can be submitted to any of the Nightmare Mods.
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/u/murderhomelesspeople BunniesNeedNotApply

8 points

6 years ago

Riddle me this. Why would your market lock, remove a post and offer zero explanation. Making you guys look like the total scum bags we see you as already

How do you know they are padding? Why aren't you providing any proof when they have provided lots

/u/jeffersonstarship

8 points

6 years ago*

I am a vendor on your market. I got a message to come here and look at this tread and the other one. They are messaging all your vendors about you taking their money.
There are ZERO sales on your market in two months. You begged me to come from Dream when you were first starting out. We still have not had a single sale which is not a big deal as everything is still new. However, I will not be vending on this market when you have scammed this guy for $300.
Give them back the money. I will be closing my account if you do not resolve this. I do not want to get in the middle of this bs. Its bad for business, but your market isnt producing anything anyway. I read through all of the complaints these guys have and this reddit post they keep sending all your vendors.
Show some proof that he is a fraud and faked it or GTFO - they posted a shit ton of proof against you.

/u/nightmaremarket 📢 Nightmare market staff

-1 points

6 years ago

We can see every ever so small action done on the market site via the Admin panel, the admin panel however includes sensitive and private information which we will not make public. Padding is strictly forbidden and will result in a ban, as agreed upon by every Vendor. We will not participate in any further discussion. Like we said the buyer can contact us separately and we will investigate the situation and if valid refund his coins. Until then the coins will stay locked.

/u/LeChucky

3 points

6 years ago*

I contacted you many times and you just blocked me. You never listened. You never replied. I showed proof I am a guy from Germany.
So, here I am. If you mean what you say: talk to me. What do you need as proof I am not TT?

As for the moment, you kept 200€ from me. I wanted to buy at Berlusconi. TT convinced my to use your market. Why did I listen?

Here I am. It's your turn now.
If you give me back my customer funds, I'll delete everything I said and put it right, that you do in fact listen and play a fair game after all.
But as for right now, I think there is a lot of bad publicity out there... I just find it difficult imagine you're that stubborn to rather keep measly 200€ for all of that bad publicity?

/u/LeChucky

2 points

6 years ago

Look, I even took a new pictures for you: matrixtxri745dfw (dot) onion/neo/uploads/190208/MATRIX_145106_nJs_to_dear_creative.png

You think they got German minced meat in the USA that is due to be eaten in 2 days?

/u/jeffersonstarship

1 points

6 years ago

You're so full of shit dude. You are a liar. You have posted ZERO proof of this. The customer you are talking about has posted proof three different times proving to you he is not the vendor... Hes posting on this very post. Look below in this thread the customer posted. THERES THREE PICTURES THE GUY TOOK SHOWING YOU HES IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. Get this through your head. You are wrong and you are scamming them. You stole their money. None of us trust you and your shitty market anyway. You are definitely marked. Your market doesnt get any sales anyway.

matrixtxri745dfw (dot) onion/neo/uploads/190208/MATRIX_145106_nJs_to_dear_creative.png

He also posted these pictures too:

https://i.redd.it/d0xhrnfff1f21.jpg

http://matrixtxri745dfw (dot) onion /neo/uploads/190207/MATRIX_022518_ylV_idiots_everywhere.jpg

/u/nightmaremarketscam

6 points

6 years ago

did anyone read the turkishtarus posts? he showed proof that this is a scam market and they are stealing from the customers and vendors.

I got PM from someone saying to read DREAD forum for post about nightmare scam. I am vendor there and they PM me. I have read every post on this for 2 days. the reddit page shows pictures of creative or nightmare owner admitting to stealing the bitcoin.

turkishtarus post pictures of the nightmare market creative telling him he is stealing the money and that he do not believe him. the chat messages are posted on the reddit for proof that this nightmare market is scam. the customer also posted picture showing proof it was separate person as well.

I'm getting private messages from people telling me to ask for vendor bond back and see if he will give it back. i am going to do that i think. this market is a scam if hes ripping off his own customers and vendors

/u/jeffersonstarship

5 points

6 years ago

I got a DM on Nightmare also. The owner came to me months ago on another market and asked me to set up a shop and he would waive the bond and no fees, so I have indeed spoken to the owner a few times. His market still sucks though, we've never had any sales. No wonder hes stealing peoples money. The market just doesnt get any traffic.
I read the reddit post earlier today and went through all those chats he posted as proof. Jesus fucking christ whoever took the time to do that needs a god damn medal.
Its funny, there was a guy on there saying that even though its an unpopular opinion, he thinks the vendor is still a scamming vendor and he was padding his own feedbacks. How the hell can this guy be lying? He created those chats between him and the customer? Faked them? All for one feedback? The time stamps add up, the drama was going on the same time this idiot banned them. And the vendor was informing the customer, truthfully, at each step. It was weird to watch the interaction.
On the reddit thing he wrote up a guy commented that he still thinks the vendor is lying. Turkishtaurus then posts a picture with the guys name in it next to a glock pistol. The guy calls him a talented graphic designer and he still thinks hes full of shit, and that he prefers a different gun, so then the vendor posted ANOTHER picture with the gun the guy said he liked.
Obviously, nightmare scammed this guy and his customer for whatever they said. I just cant figure out why a market owner would risk his reputation over a few hundred dollars? Doesnt make any sense.

/u/LeChucky

3 points

6 years ago*

Ich bin ein echter Kunde aus Deutschland und du hast einfach mein Geld geklaut!

Du hast niemals auch nur einen einzigen Beweis gezeigt, dass ich tatsächlich nur ein Zweitaccount von TT bin! Ich habe Fotos gemacht mit jeder Menge von diversen Gegenständen, Lebensmitteln, unbenutzen Briefmarken, Medikamenten, die es nur in Deutschland so gibt, auf jeden Fall nicht in den USA! Als irgendsoein Huso auf reddit meinte mein Foto sei einfach nur ein guter Photoshop-Fake von TT, habe ich sofort nachgelegt... direkt an TT geschickt und nur 20 min. später hat er es unter das "Nur-ein-Photoshop"-Kommentar gepostet. Niemand ist so schnell ein neues Photoshop zu faken.

Ich bin echt und wenn es hier Deutsche im Forum gibt, dann werden die auch checken, dass ich Deutscher bin, weil so wie ich schreibe spuckt das kein Übersetzer aus. Verstehste, du Kunde?

Hab übrigens gesehen, dass einer deiner Zweitaccounts dieses Foto von Borislav benutzt aus 007 Goldeneye... siehst du dich selber so? Wie Borislav? Ich erinnere einen schmierigen, eckligen, hinterfotzigen Vergewaltiger-Typ-Russen-Hacker, der voll auf ADHS und Speed immer auf seinem Kugelschreiber rumgeklicker hat und am Ende wurde er dann einfach mal so weggesnufft... hoffe dir passiert nicht das Gleiche. Bolschewistensau.

Du hast keinen einzigen Beweis geliefert und einfach die Coins einbehalten.
Und dein Gelaber über Multisig ist auch nur Müll.
Du konntest problemlos 0.03BTC aus meinem Wallett abzwacken... ich wette alle Wallets laufen bei dir in einer 0815 Excelliste oder sowas Billigem zusammen mit dem jeweiligen Usernamen dahinter. Mehr nicht.

Alles einfach nur bloße Behauptungen und Lügen, du kleines, mieses, russisches, Möchtergern-Hacker-Kellerkind!

If there are any German native Speakers in this Board, speak up now and tell them I am for real.

Creative just says he will investigate if I may be for real, but in fact he does not do it. He does not listen, he does not look at my proofs provided. I don't believe he is really interested in finding out if I am a real customer from Germany or not. He just wants to keep my money. :*(

Ich will einfach nur meine Knete zurück! Dieb du reudiger du!

/u/XalosDD

2 points

6 years ago

he is from Germany.

/u/LeChucky

1 points

6 years ago

und du bist aus Dresden wegen dem DD? ^^

Kannste vergessen, der Nightmareadmin ist ein Laberkopp. Der hat gar kein Interesse hier irgendetwas richtig zu stellen. Aber dafür ist sein Marktplatz jetzt so ziemlich verbrannt. Hat sich ja gelohnt für ihn.

/u/jeffersonstarship

0 points

6 years ago

in english?

/u/LeChucky

1 points

6 years ago

Nope, I wrote in German so other Germans (or Austrians, Swiss) can prove that I am German because all that text is to difficult to be translated without any flaws by a machine.

Basically, Nightmaremarket-Admin does just say TT was padding, but never ever even showed a single proof.

TT and I showed lots of proof that we are in fact different persons on different continents.

Nightmaremarket-Admin isn't interested in finding out if I am for real a customer and he does not stand up to his word to refund me as a customer who did nothing wrong but using his marketplace!

/u/jeffersonstarship

3 points

6 years ago

You are the customer? I saw you post two separate pictures on the reddit thread. Its not exactly obvious that Turkish is from America. Its obvious you are German because of the passport and crackers n shit you posted. I still believe you guys though, Ive read every dread post and comment and the reddit one this morning. I cant believe you guys posted those chats. But whatever, it proves you guys got fucked. Has this scammer given you back your money?

/u/LeChucky

5 points

6 years ago

No, he hasn't. I think he needs the money desperately, because his marketplace costs a lot of money and just doesn't start returning any investment of his.

Why would we put up so much effort? For 200€ (me) and 100$ (TT)?

Because we fight like people that think they have been treated unfairly. That's why.

Nightmareadmin just posts a press release, but no interaction, no actions on his behalf proving his point of the case. He just acts like he is a God above them all.

/u/skcaH4nhaH

-1 points

6 years ago

LOL - Ich kann das echt noch immer nicht glauben.

Ist Ihnen die Ladung bekannt, dass Sie zu empfindlich oder gar hysterisch seien? (nicht als Beleidigung aufzufassen)
Trotzdem "ihr beiden" beginnen horst dich an wie kleine Arschgeigen!

"Es scheint mir Mich deucht, die Dame verspricht zu viel"

MfG H

/u/LeChucky

2 points

6 years ago*

Alter, was bist du denn für ein Übersetzungsmongotroll?

Du bist alles, aber kein Deutscher. Haste das in googletranslate reingehackt? Klingt ja fürchterlich. Pfui bah! Alter, geh kacken und an der Futt deina Mudda rumrubbeln.

"Es scheint mir Mich deucht, die Dame verspricht zu viel".... alta wo hastn den Quark uffjeschnappt? Hamse dich ausm Mittelalter reanimiert? Klingt wie irgendeine Redewendung in ner anderen Sprache. Haste versucht 1zu1 zu übersetzen? Funzt aber nicht, weil das mal mega keinen Sinn ergibt.
Chill ma dein Leben du Honk.

Dude, you're everything but German. Already the second sentence starts to look like google translate. Mongoloid troll you are. Prolly that russian dude whos Marketplace is now but a piece of costly shit and no return of investment so you had to scam a legit vendor and his legit customer to buy yourself some more vodka. Dishonorable piece of...

/u/skcaH4nhaH

1 points

6 years ago

No dummy, it was a quote from something called "Hamlet", so of course it's Middle Fucking English. Damn, for a German you sure are fucking retarded.

/u/LeChucky

1 points

6 years ago*

...and you seriously expected some machine to translate that figurative speech into another language without anything gettin lost in translation along the way?

Verkauft sich deine Olle eigentlich immer noch für nen Heiermann an Obachlose und Eichelkäse-Alis?

/u/abraxa

1 points

6 years ago

The big question here is. Someone is out here trying to do honest vending with guns and people are out here buying it? I thought all gun sales were LE or scam unless you got lucky with a cartel dm connect. Was this guy really shipping the guns?

/u/JACKJACK

0 points

6 years ago

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/u/nightmaremarketscam

1 points

6 years ago

are you the same jackjack that is a user on the nightmare market forum? I got a message to look at this website and a forum that is for the nightamre market. in that place is a BUNCH of messages saying how nightmare is a scam. They all say the same thing. Then on the members page it says you are a administrator for the forum. are you the same people? If you are, this brings into question some of the stuff in your post history.

/u/abraxa

0 points

6 years ago

If this weapons vendor is legit. Fuck a market build a rep from DD and youll thrive on your own. I dont know shit about weapons and dms besides theres always a market for them in a sea of LE and scam gun vendors. But most likely you are or will be one soon.

/u/SamCulper

-3 points

6 years ago

A gun vendor being legit while using Wickr? And then posting all these wickr convo's for everybody to see? Doesn't seem real legit right? Also a 300 dollar order for a glock barrel? Not sure what it was? But sounds like pure bullshit yea. Aint no gun vendor with brains gonna use some fuckin app called wickr.

/u/TurkishTaurus

2 points

6 years ago

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/u/abraxa

2 points

6 years ago

Just seems odd. Your a weapons vendor. Theres been a profile on your account since the day you started i bet and if you truly are doing honest weapon deals on a market your on some agents desk right now. But your worried about being scammed $300ish to the point your putting your entire business out there?? If LE didnt know about you weapons vending, they do now. It it even worth weapons vending if your not making thousands DAILY? You just dont make sense man. If you are a honest weapons dealer than sorry all the scammers and LE ruined it for you.

/u/Oculus_Cum Oculus troll, mildly funny

0 points

6 years ago

I might have leaky IPs and a leaky penis but all the .0000001BTC I've made from my ventures were honestly made. Sure half of it was a dick pic I sent to someone and yes, I leak IP addresses, and yes, I cum on my servers, but I'm an honest man here. My servers have been hit with a lot of DDOS's, had 2 concurrent users and it just crashed my system. I mitigate DDOS easy though by unplugging my server and the ddos stops. Done with you, I have a brand new host and a set of IPs to leak.

/u/JACKJACK

-1 points

6 years ago*

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/u/TimothyLeary

2 points

6 years ago*

Whatsup? Why Am I tagged here mate?

I see all posts on dreads. Even if not tagged. So no need mate. But Thanks anyway.

/u/wombat2combat Mod

3 points

6 years ago

the firearms discussion I am guessing. I did not remove the posts of the accuser [the gun vendor and the buyer] though so it would be inconsistency on my part to remove that post now from my point of view. I think a dread mod commented in one of the other two threads about it already and since it did not get removed by said mod, I also did not intervene either [the main sub should be a place to voice accusations about markets and vendors with proof without being censored although I personally almost caught cancer when seeing the opsec of the wickr gun vendor and the buyer].

/u/TimothyLeary

3 points

6 years ago

I think he tagged me for a different reason. He seems to think I have something against nightmare market I believe. Seeing his statement below. I see this as a post that is perfectly allowed. He is addressing the issue, and mentioning what was happening with this gun vendor. Also the reason why they removed guns. So not even gonna delete it myself. Since it's not promoting the sale of guns. I just see a statement against the drama that was aimed towards them yesterday on this same sub.

If you feel like this crosses the DNM subrules, Feel free to delete it though. I am not trying to control all subs and don't want people to think I am here making all the decisions. Which I am not. And totally agree on that wickr thing.

/u/LeChucky

1 points

6 years ago

whats wrong with the opsec? are you able to identify anyone of us by the stuff we provided?

/u/wombat2combat Mod

1 points

6 years ago

just a few points at the top of my head [I only looked at two images], using os x, using wickr [one central service which can shut down your account or be sub-poenaed], selling guns and then posting it on every forum including reddit to make sure to get law enforcement's attention, buyer posting forums of his handwriting and revealing his location, buyer posting photos which give away his camera footprint [every camera is unique and will leave unique traces on every photo you shoot with it. these traces can not be removed and law enforcement will be very interested in them because firearms are involved].

bottom line is if you do not know what is wrong [regarding the opsec] with the screen shots, you should take a look at resources like the dnm bible before things go south for you.

/u/LeChucky

1 points

6 years ago*

TT wasn't actually selling guns to me... just parts of it free to buy in US (no FFL item if I am informed correctly). I think in US legistlation that makes a difference, doesn't it?

you tell me which camera I used please. I am aware of things like exif-data. I opened the images on desktop and then used snippet tool before saving them into a new image file. Exif data should be gone.

And again, no fully functional firearm was involved. Have you heard about the Shuty-AP9? That's one example a hobbist could need a barrel for which he can't acquire in his country. So much for the "sketchy" scheme. If a barrel costs in the US 50$ and is reselled for 200$, than that totally makes sense from an economic point of view. NIghtmareadmin just wasnt creative enough to think about that possibility. And yes I am aware his nickname on his marketplace is Creative.

/u/wombat2combat Mod

1 points

6 years ago

>TT wasn't actually selling guns to me... just parts of it free to buy in US (no FFL item if I am informed correctly).

law enforcement will just as heavily scrutinize legal [pre-[pre-]]pre-cursors of drugs as they do with drugs.

edit plus a transaction on a dnm is illegal itself due to the commission the market gets [funding a criminal enterprise or whatever it is called]. the chances of the vendor getting busted and this law enforcement getting to you because you are on the buyer list, is not low either because he is a gun vendor.

>I think in US legistlation that makes a difference, doesn't it?

law enforcement following the law and people being innocent until proven guilty is unfortunately far from being the norm.

>you tell me which camera I used please.

only one example https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-the-dust-on-your-1821030620

there are tons of other methods, removing exif data is just the bare minimum that you can do. while writing this I remembered that I am not sure if they are screen shots or photos of a screen. if they are screen shots these methods obviously do not apply.

/u/Heinous

-4 points

6 years ago

Some random vendor on some random market. Who cares?

/u/LeChucky

3 points

6 years ago

Mongovollspasst