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Go back to basics- we used to build superlists together as well as moderate things- reddit is appalling and needs to be corrected- this should be the alternative and with a similar screening process to when I was mod for "noobs" old reddit- you coulndt even get access to here without having a knowledge of what you were doing. someone took the ORIGINAL scarce copy of a very well written "how to aka bible" that I wrote and was accredited for BY YOU and others and put a ""how to on youtube" read it out word for word- and stop letting people come here that are not well versed or vetted. my partner is continually getting thrown in sub dreads that are spam - this is an old ui/ux and needs to be brought up to date. you are a smart guy- hopefully this makes sense.

I didnt log on for a year and now dude has me reading this post like a thriller cliffhanger thinking he is about to be dropping the platform only to find out such great news in the end .

Now I feel bad for not posting about this earlier but for me and I imagine many others you Hug and the dread team are held in very high regards , while I did experience annoyances during DOS attacks when they were in their worst whenever the site came back I also felt gratitude for your hard work and a sense of reassurance that grew to the point that whenever the site wasnt loading immediatley I knew the Dread team was working on it and it will be sorted out shorly.

This is the type of effort and responsibility I would expect from a service I was paying top dollar for , and since Im not , in my eyes you and your team are saints !

can you please tell me how much engagement i need to start subreddit in dredd . i think i have a good addition that can help the community but unsure what i need to do to get my score to move from one. eg how much posts or comments i need to have engaged with

we need more people learning and advancing the development of markets. we need education not on how to use them or how to stay safe on them but how to build them. i know it's a dark art you can't just go to community college for tor service building class but i would like to see a place where people can learn to make a market of there own with guidance from those with experience. talk to each other about new ways to get over on the le and bullet proof our markets. to many people are new and don't put in the time but even for us who are not new and have experience is so hard to learn how to make moves like this. it would be great if we could weed out the le actors and work towards having a place where building markets becomes a community thing and security becomes a crowd sourced idea just like the more nodes tor has the better it is the more minds we have the better we can become. it seems we're losing the fight guys and I'm not ready to see this come to an end. even if ross got the pardon we have a long long way to go and it's the shit European police agencies that need to get fucked more than anyone. us as well but i don't know as much about them

I suggest Dread have an I2P endpoint in addition to its Tor endpoint. This will allow true anonymity.

i think we need a chat room to keep users logged in and communicating like the dark forest chat .
i think the primary focus of dread should be communication .

communication is dreads product . and you need to expand the product offering new ways to keep use interest and what better way than to offer real time communication

I would like to see some sort of funding pool created that market admins must contribute to if they want to advertise here that would lab test vendors products on a very regular, consistent basis. Than those findings would be published on dread.

Also....I think a $3/month subscription fee wouldn't be terrible. I have used dread off and on since /r/darknetmarkets got taken down and I have enjoyed it. There was a period during 2018-2019 I just couldn't use it because of all the DDOS'ing but now it's super online and consistent and I appreciate the service. I wish it was more robust and active like reddit was back in the day but...oh well. I would pay for this service when I needed to use it.

Maybe a live Cafedread message?

I think you need an online Chat like the dark forest chat room .with poker and chess . to keep people on the platform . and to build a constant presents of people if you have a well moderated chat they is no reason why it wont be the biggest and best chat on the dark net everyone comes here as a first stop to the dark web why not keep them here and provided as many legal grey area facility as possible , chat chess poker . is a very good start

Wow, that was an interesting read. I was definately not partial to the amount of hard work was put into this platform in order to get it off the ground and just as much how it requires TLC from individuals from different backgrounds and specialties. Personally for me it's only been a couple months using DNM and you would have laughed at how oftern I found myself questioning the info on Dread especially the DNM Bible. I mean I guess i'm a cynic but it was almost nonsenseical for me to believe anyone would volunteer their skills and time, both reasources. So I don't really know what kind of weight my ideas would carry or if giving you the answer youre looking for but a parallel occured to me and i'll hit you with it. Just remember to catch the comparission of these idea but nothing else about them. So to me what you have here is similar to the original Nintendo Power Magazine that would print these almost 100 page hand-held walkthrough and game guide and tutorial things. I think I actually had one of the very first they made. It was Mario Bros. 3. Ok so here's my piece. What you have built here and maintain with difficulty. However this isn't just a Blog or a wiki. I mean it's forum for discussion and at least to me it was collectively the most conveinient set of resources that if I hadn't come across I would never have gotten my feet wet. I had NO idea how many things in the DNM Bible were absolutely necessary in order to safely get started. On top of that there is a place for anything and everything. I had a question abour sourcing, currency, crypto, what vendor practices are normal and safe, what to watch out for and how to continue to be safe. I was so extatic for getting my first pack. BUT the huge unexpected part was that because of all the work that everyone puts in around here to keep it that way. I swear it was a good two weeks of reading before I was convinced that the information was legit. and the part i found funny was no one was asking to be paid I think /u/Shaky might have mentioned that he'd dig a free coffee but I no one was was trying to extort the newbs to make a buck off. I just want to say that you should try to frame it by the scope of it's supporters. in otherwords if when it sarted you didn't need a lot of resources to keep it afloat but as it's popularity grows and youre investing more and more into it then i don' t see why you should feel stressed about how to generate revinue. I myself have some limited experience in marketing and I gotta run but my outlook is like this: You have a customer base which is loyal and the willingness to help support something youre doing well so you have a reason to keep doing it, as wel as incentive to improve and expand. I mean what's there to wonder about. Ask someone who can give you the plan and run with it. there's so many ways to get a little help to cover things and you could do shit like Archtyp does. I mean the first time I saw the Deadpool I had to play. I mean why would you feel a type of way for needing to keep the lights on. Also if it's just becoming to much work to maintain other aspectse of the project i'm sure you'll be about to pass the torch. I'll leave it with this. Without the DNM Bible as well as support from the communityh and the policy of no dumb question well that's the only reason i didn't give up and got this far. it's similar to the quote, "If you build it they will come" this is more like you built it and i'm sure you will have what and who you need to bew abvoutr to pass the torch f

can anyone give me username of /d/fraud moderators? i want to fuck their sisters?

can anyone give me details of /d/fraud moderators? i want to fuck their sisters.

Honestly, I totally get where some of the negativity is coming from. The internet’s a chaotic place, and when a platform has been around as long as Dread, it’s bound to hit some bumps. That said, it’s clear to me that Dread is still the best by far in what it does. People wouldn’t keep coming back if it wasn’t.
I do think we could benefit from a bit more patience and less "Dread’s dying" posts. Dread is here, and it’s here because of the work everyone puts into it—admins, mods, and the community that keeps showing up. On the other hand, I get the concerns about moderation and the rules. A reputation system or better global enforcement of the rules could make things smoother, but we're all in this together. If we want to keep this place thriving, it’s going to take more than just the admins. It’s gonna take all of us.
Big shout-out to everyone who’s been helping this community grow. Appreciate you all for sticking around.

Wow! We are grateful that this platform exists and the fact that you are improving the platform is another blessing we are grateful for! No complaints and looking forward to everything! <3

Can anything be done for all international vendors in allowing them to finalize early and then they refuse to send tracking?

Can you not integrate code that does not allow the vendors to receive our money unless our packages are flagged as shipped or delivered? I just lost over $150 from a US vendor and now I am probably about to lose another $200 because I am now finding some disturbing feedback on a particular vendor that is international, purchasing from the states.

I love dread since I first came here nothing quite like it and to find these people who can do this sort of work

Here are some things that i believe if done, will make Dread way better:

In life, if i am talking about something, those who wanna listen can gather around me, listen to what i am saying, and discuss their thoughts with me.
Those who don't wanna listen, can just go away.
I believe this is how it's supposed to be.
The person/s who don't wanna listen or don't like what i am saying, do not have the right to prevent me from saying what i want.
Words are like an offer, you can take it or leave it.

I believe it's wrong to prevent people from discussing, sharing or trading whatever they want.
If there is something you don't like, or you know most humans won't like, just make a warning on the subdread before anyone enters.
The warning is there, and whoever enters the subdread, is completely responsible for his actions.

I believe it's wrong to prohibit arms, "terrorist stuff", organs trade or anything else.

The market should be completely OPEN and completely uncensored.
The needs of the people is what will dictate which product lives and which product dies.

For example, i completely disagree with your rule about not trading weapons on Dread or sharing markets that trade arms.
Many people are living is super oppressive countries and need weapons to defend themselves or to fight back those oppressive regimes to reclaim their freedom.

So my idea is to let people talk and trade whatever they want, and make warnings (3 warnings if you want) on subdreads you believe most people will not like, like gore, gay stuff, etc.

If a miracle happened and you decided to do what i mentioned above, you should charge for using dread.
You are paying for running the server, if the ads are not covering the expenses, the users should pay for using the platform.
If what i wrote above became reality, It will be a free open platform where people can trade or talk about anything and this is worth a lot these days.

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Long live DREAD!! You made it so easy for us in a way I can't explain by just words. Thank YOU!

The Egyptian Hieroglyph Text Symbols would be a fun thing to have. You have to copy them to a notepad to see them.

Stab myself in the eye with a pointy stick. 𓀐 beat my brains out𓀑 and dead motherfucker 𓀒 all would have their uses.

https://c.r74n.com/unicode/hieroglyph The animals and insects are stunning.

Guys anyone tell me how to buy credit cards???

Rename Dreadiquette to something that people understand. Dread BBCode would make a lot more sense.

I used clearnet BBCode manuals and a lot of trial and error for months. I've shown it to a stack of people.

I wish I had the ability to delete what is clearly spam. Like this morning - the same exact post from different account names.

I would like to see mods who ain't shilling for certain dealers be in charge of d/meth

... It's painfully obvious by now who's who but I'm gonna keep my mouth shut and not call anyone out specifically.

just saying, there's like 2-3 dealers who seem to be the same person managing them, and 1-2 mods swear up and down on guys who always send bunk ... it seems like it's all bunk but regardless, it doesn't help things to have shills for mods...

I'm not on here much, sorry. So I'm an epic failure in terms of 'supporting the community'. Few quick thoughts;
1) Massive hugs all round for the one and only (or is it more) "Hug" as in owner and super mod. There should be a place reserved in heaven, right next to Jesus, in fact fuck it, above Jesus for your service to humanity.
2) This is not just an obscure fragment of the digi-verse for trading socially frowned upon items. It is, in principle a last frontier for demonstrating in a meaningful way a 'total fuck you' to the establishment, the system, the increasingly all pervasive surveillance of every aspect of our lives and it's a massive fuck you to institutional control in all its forms. And further;
4) This movement with all its imperfections and limitations-(up against unlimited resources and opposition)-is a meaningful signpost pointing out the utter hypocrisy of the system on taboos. Take substances for example. If institutional authority sanctions it, you can OD as much as you want on Alcohol, tobacco, and the system is more than happy to 'feed' you to big pharma for opiate pain-killers and so on, just to pick a few. But operate in private as a free market and you're demonized, vilified and worse than a pedophile. At this point we could almost make a good case that there's a moral duty to be here, to trade here and to ensure the movement flourishes.
5) Many of these ideas have been covered in previous comments so forgive me. This might sound a bit like a paywall, but if I had to contribute say the equivalent of 20 bucks a year to be part of a cooperative, to be a member, I'd do it in a heartbeat and say it's money well spent. (I think that works out to about 40 cents a week?).
6) The moment we introduce need for funding, advertising etc into the equation, the purist in me feels like it's a sell-out, and capitulation to 'the system', but short of finding a parallel universe, totally free of the forces within which we operate, I can't think of any other way.

All power to Hug, the mods, the team and all. You are actually doing god's work, or as close as you can get to it in this life.

Very best regards,

PS - Take over the world

honestly, Dread is really great, and the work the mods and everyone puts into keeping the platform fumctional is deeply appreciated.

for me, the biggest challenges come with knowing where to look for info. there is a mix of vendor ads, reviews, and topical conversation in each sub, and some of the threads get overwhelmed by ads. i find myself going to Reddit or one of the other clearnet forums for education/information about specific drugs because trying to search for a drug here invariably returns 100:1 vendor ads...which is frustrating because since Reddit doesn't allow source discussion, you can't get vendor-specific qualitative feedback. separating or funnelling ads into their own home and allowing users to filter them out would make searching and discussing topics a lot easier. i would love to see these forums be able to deliver as much user-to-user interaction as Reddit for things like dosing/harm reduction, etc., but that can't happen if ads overwhelm the subs.

i'd love to see a bit more curation on the platform side as well when someone exit scams, etc. there are several known exit scammers (serotonininc, for instance) whose subs are still active and are not flagged by the system as compromised. obviously that presents a problem when it comes to free speech and he-said/she-said accounts of scamming, but leaving the subs active and unflagged feels like a hole in the harm/risk-reduction goals.

but all in all, this forum is amazing as a resource. sure there are trolls and con artists and shills, but there are also a ton of helpful, engaged members who help the little guys like me find our way through this a little more securely.

i will be honest, the downtime yesterday freaked me out, because there is no substitute for this place that I have found. glad you are back up and running, and thanks for doing the hard work of building a platform that supports free speech while placing a priority on user safety and accurate information.

/u/HugBunter Offering a connected service that eliminates EXIF data from media would help because product reviews and trip reviews frequently require media attachments that can be challenging to upload in a clean frm because not all cleaners work well with all different operating systems.

Well, nothing can make everyone happy all the time. Regardless of what you do, some people will always be dissatisfied with what you've done, and some are perpetually unhappy with everything all the time. Do what makes you and the closest to you happy. Don't worry about the opinions of the masses. You've made it this far.

the only issiue i would have is the scammers.

/u/hugbunter
Can we get a mark as unread button for our direct messages?

After all the dos attacks from last year when dread was 6 months offline, I think it was better if we started from scratch again.
and restore al settings from 6 years ago on a new blank dread. inclusive login info so al names were back free. and after 1000 new usernames Invite only, so it is special and hot because it is the only way to fight to totally unsafe sources for information. invite only after 1000 new members, and you still can open register for some days on holidays or Bday/dread!
There is information everyware today. the people need to know that the only right information is on dread at the dark net.
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Thank you

i'd like to see complete freedom of speech, including about weapons and assassin services ..etc. let people discuss and sell whatever they want.
ONLY RULE i would have, is: NO SPAMMING of any kind. this means no advertising your stuff, no spamming same thing over and over.
basically a rule that says "don't act like a retarded donkey" and that would be good.

no harassment is also good rule, but that kind of falls under spamming. you can't harass someone without spamming, so that's kind of covered with the no spamming rule.

another sub-rule would be "NO OFF-TOPIC", i hate when people do that. i've been mod/admin on many websites and servers and i know how annoying it can be when idiots post their shit in every possible hole they find, but that also falls under "NO SPAMMING", that's why i said sub-rule.

otherwise i don't really see any issues with dread, it's great place for discussing things that you can't really discuss on clear web due the extreme snowflake community that starts rolling their eyes over everything.

as about advertising, i think it's ok if you have moderators/admins who verify the ad. if it's a NEW market or vendor, then give them a flare or make it a rule that they must mention "NEW VENDOR" or "NEW MARKET" either in title or on top of post, somewhere where it's very visible and clear.
i'm not a vendor, but personally i'd like to provide some services myself. i'm way too burned out to become a vendor or host my own market, but i have mad skills and i could provide services to people of the darkweb, for example photoshopping docs or helping someone find whatever they looking for. i can also provide hacking services if price is right, but i'm afraid to even advertise as i read the rules and it sounds too complicated to go through the process, i'd just like to make a post and tell what i can provide.

Why dont you add market features? you already have an ads and payment system. You might even make an "elite" market like TMJ

It's amazing that dread is so close to its 7th birthday! Thank you, and all other admins for keeping this forum going. Of course there is always progress to be made, but that doesn't warrant the poor treatment of those who make this forum possible. No matter how much effort one puts into cultivating a great community, there will always be people who find a reason to bitch. Nothing will ever be good enough for those people.

Though maintaining communities on a smaller scale, I've come to accept that perfection is a myth and thanklessness is a certainty. There are always ways to improve, but no solution will ever satisfy everyone. What matters is progress, and seeing people here actively work toward solutions as a collective rather than whining into the void is something I genuinely respect. I love that you want to hear from the community and take our thoughts into consideration moving forward with changes to the forum. Thanks.

The most meaningful progress happens when people come together—not just to point out problems, but to engage in the hard work of solving them. Constructive dialogue moves us forward; empty complaints do not. Criticism is necessary—but it needs to have a point. If you're just complaining for the sake of it, congratulations, you've added nothing of value. To those who have nothing but negative things to say about this forum and its founders: what's stopping you from making something better? Go ahead. Start your own. Compete. We both know that you won't, because deep down, you know that you can't.

"To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." -Elbert Hubbard

One thing that I think should be changed are the rules surrounding sourcing and advertising fentanyl. It just doesn't make sense and causes more harm than good. It's still sold on markets that have "banned" it, advertised as something else. At least Archetyp allows the transparent sale of fentanyl.

Banning substances doesn't make them disappear, it makes them more dangerous. I would hope that most people on dread, of all places, realize that. Banning sourcing discussions doesn't stop people from seeking fentanyl out, it only pushes them toward riskier, unverified sources where there's no real community oversight. People shouldn't have to use code words to talk about their experience with a vendor and the quality of the fentanyl that vendor sells. It isn't as if other substances that are allowed to be advertised and sourced here don't come with their own risks. Harm reduction works best with transparency. People being allowed to openly discuss reliable fentanyl sources would arguably reduce deaths rather than increase them.

@hugbunter. Lovely post but lets be honest here, you have been part of the problem. The idea of Dread is admirable, but you yourself have stooped to some very low levels.

You know exactly what you did to multiple vendors, when you ripped them off for many thousands of dollars. Almost every market that ever existed, has exited and stolen the money of both vendors and buyers.

How about you do the right thing and set an example. You could repay what you stole and be honest in saying that you made a mistake?

I'm sure that there will be some crappy comments calling this bullshit, but there are a large group of reputable vendors out there who know from personal experience that this is true. I won't be commenting again, I just hope that you hug think about what you did and at least try and put things right.

@hugbunter: give a bigger piece of the cake to newcomers, there are a way more legit ones than you think at this point.

You guys became the biggest promotion platform on the DM, and you do according to my opinion and experience tend to be too harsh with new services trying to settle down peacefully.
Start by letting anyone the possibility to open their sub-dread, just like it's the case on Reddit.

Ain't no " free " platform if you re bound to very precised rules when it comes to creation and expansion

You should let the people judge by themselves, this is the definition of freedom.

some time i use tor on mobile phone what concern me is when the replies on comment are a lot the words start get small so that they point to the person you reply

i was finding it hard to read some replies on this post bcoz they are small and become a small thin line goin down

i don't know if is bug or is feature, thank you for reading

question for you hug. is mention/discussion of carding/cybercrime/ddos/hacking/ and other hacking tools and services not allowed on dread anymore? it seems there is a limited amount of sub-dreads in relation to those topics, and the ones that there are, seem to be dead for a very long time. just curious. i dont blame you for not allowing it, if thats the case. seems like people have really given the site hell in the past.

This platform is 100% hilarious. I'm so happy to be here

I am back after a while and its amazing that dread still stands strong even after the Desnake and the attacks I am amazed.

What about adding a user follow button and a separate 'Following' tab where we can see posts from the users we follow? Would this be a good idea, or could it cause any issues?

I love this platform as it and there's no true replacement. But we tend to move to other places from here like I'm into drugs so I used to spend more time on The Hub and TMG. By no means this is inferior, I am here now and I enjoy it. You got the basics sorted, I think. Keep it running and have a good time.

Good Job /u/HugBunter

COmo consigo vazar alguns dados em massa ?

I haven't read the whole post yet but I wanted to add while I was thinking of it that if there's ever a cut off to the number of people who can have accounts on here I would hope that us long time members or account holders would definitely get a chance to stay on and keep our accounts. I'm sure that would be taken into account. I don't know if this has been a topic any time lately or if there's any restriction to creating an account right now but I just wanted to mention it. Thanks for building and maintaining this site. It has been a huge help with important questions and a lot of questions answered on here help people to stay safe online & stay safe physically as well. Best forum on the DN by 10,000 miles. Not one even close to this one. You've done an outstanding job making it so good, keeping it up and working great.

I believe dread hit a golden age with test4pay even with a tiny incentive to get lab tests done officially i know many people who continue to test drugs and report the info even after the program was considered dead and gone mostly because of moderation disappearing which imo shouldn't of ended so abruptly but it was also partially community funded because of certain people and vendors all working together for a safer community when it comes to drugs. if you are here then you most likely have similar beliefs that drugs aren't going anywhere anytime soon and its about time we start looking at ways to properly control and ensure safety of these drugs since
the government has become the definition of insanity not learning anything from alcohol prohibition we now have drugs 1000x worse then fentanyl i believe there should be more emphasis on the safe and reliable places to get drugs with random widespread testing on top. That's my two cents as dread has always been like the entryway for alot of DNM users more than anything else. /u/HugBunter

/u/HugBunter, I don't belong to those 'most' you mentioned; I've always believed that you and /u/Paris have good intentions. The best proof of that is /d/EndGame, from v1 (I still miss that chess captcha, lol) to the final v3. The amount of work you both put into this is truly impressive! Just as you said, 'As hard as it is to believe for most, there was never any incentive for money,' I believe we can also say, 'As hard as it is to understand for most, the creation of EndGame has been a game changer for the entire DN scene.'

Thank you so much! You will go to heaven.

Perfect sayed. I am very very thankful to be here with u all. Thank u for this great oportunity.

I know that innovation is valued here, so why shouldn’t the same apply to this superlist? those who wish to be a part of it can introduce a unique innovation, ensuring that the standards are always kept high.

I've been returning to the game and came here mostly for links and mirrors. I haven't used anything probably since AlphaBay or so, started on the original Silk road and endured exit after exit, bust after bust.. But this site is an awesome resource in my opinion. It is nice to lurk and see what has changed and the current state of affairs, I've only recently made an account for the sake of having it, it seems there are already some very good compilations of basic information anyone would need to get going. You can't please everyone though. The attitudes of people has definitely changed a lot over the years, I will say that. I see a lot more flaming and complaining for no apparent reason. A lot more people accessing shit too since it's become relatively mainstreamed. Some of them probably shouldn't be. There certainly are gaps in a lot of things, but some things just can't be discussed or taught no matter how much you try and shit. A link to the market is really all you need in my opinion and experience, all of the rest you learn by doing it and having your wits about you. I feel like complaining or hating on any resource like this is silly. Not to sound like a boomer or some shit, but back when all this kinda shit started you had to really learn and understand and do a lot of digging. Everyone was kinda learning as they went, there weren't darknet market bibles and much discussion. There wasn't a very big community at all and the average person really never even heard of tor, let alone the markets that existed. Bitcoin was barely $50 at the time, and it wasn't a simple instant transaction. It absolutely makes me sick still to this day when I see the price of them and think of the coins I had in my wallet on SR when it got seized :'( Anyway, I guess my point is to say thanks for a good resource and putting your hard work and effort into this for the community. People should appreciate the resources at their disposal here.

I've been away from here for around 4 years and slowly getting back to it in order to see what's up with everyone. I remember I left because access was to hard and login in was even harder. It was simpler to use Telegram. I've seen people I knew have left and it's probably because you guys have to many dumb rules like not being able to be specific and short and not being allowed to write such post in /fraud because it has to be /fraudship. I also have to wait 5 minutes for each post. Come one! And nothing really new is presented. I see many newbies around. I'm here to make money and ask for help in some matters I'm not familiar with and I don't get many insight but I most of the time give up on answering or posting because I have to rotate a picture 5 times, then another picture 5 more times, and then another one and I get it wrong the last rotation click so I have to start over. Couldn't it just be something like my own pin number to do it? Even WhatsApp has that feature. I see this forum has lost the core purpose for which I started using it. But anyways, if you read so far I would implement a Dread market because why advertise markets if you can do it yourself? Here I go to rotate the damn I am not a robot pictures.

As a longtime lurker on Dread? I love this beacon of light to help me and many others navigate the dark sea of onions with a raft of well-informed members to keep the community going.

I know there are probably things which can be done to improve the service on the back-end, ultimately it falls to the front-end members of the community like me to step up and fend off misinformation/phishers and other agents looking to subvert the platform.

Keep up the great work, I know it must be a monumental task to carry this weight for the mod teams but without Dread and the community dedication to promoting well-informed use of this corner of the web? Harm-reduction practices would be more obscured; more lives may have been lost and freedoms stripped from people who are guilty only of pursuing greater knowledge and access to worldly pleasures that international prohibition laws serve to criminalise the curious. Many of us would be fumbling in the dark without this beacon so thank you to everyone who works tirelessly to keep this place lit.

I just want to say I stumbled on this site for the first time recently and it is simply incredible. I greatly appreciate the hard work you and your team put forth ,though I know this is mentally taxing, the work you do here is invaluable. I'm not smart enough to give solutions but I can say thank you and so I do just that. Keep up the good work man, don't let them take your spirit. PS I like your name

love you /u/HugBunter

Extremely long time lurker here. I appreciate the effort bro.

Don't feel like digging through comments,

but how about a simple marketplace for jobs? Web design, etc.

More about the actual board setup and details of the job, rather than the payment system. That can still be done away from Dread obviously

Dread teach me a lot of stuff, im a person who loves to study, of course here are very helpfull and great people, but also many feds, the posts how to see and how to answer, ho to react are many times to late. Or postet only one time, this kind of sauce is important for newbis.
And also a great thx and much love to the dread team.
One wish i have, make new sauce in fraud/carding and social energiereeng. In clearnet i found more then on dread and this makes me sad.

For me, this place is Alma Mater. And I sincerely admire your determination.
Do you have the opportunity to train LLM on an array of forum data for 7 years? Have you thought about it?

The trolling on here is problematic. I know its the dark web. Yes. But still, it feels like I'm surrounded by a bunch of edgy 10 year olds, and it doesn't feel like this site is useful for people who actually want to explore the web, and share their thoughts, without immediately getting shitte on by a bunch of whatevers.
You don't need to be an asshole every single time somebody posts. This place more or less just feels like reddit with the nightlight on.
This may be why most users might not even bother to comment.
Also, I feel like this site is just a junkie den. Drugs, drugs, drugs. That's it?! Drugs is all we got? Tf? Shame...
What about insider reports on congress? What about disclosing investigative reports on corruption? Things like that---that's why I signed up for this, I wanted to learn things that clearnet won't tell you. Something that Fox 5 won't tell you. I'm on the dw, tell me some deep conspiracy shit, man. Something to help me feel smart, you know.
What is the CIA doing? Are there any corrupt politicians that you can dox? Any insider watchdog reports; things that help your friendly curious homie know who the enemy is.

There really isn't much here for somebody who isn't hooked on something, or about to fuck around and find out.
Still, I have met some, um...Interesting users and to read some of the dw news reports is always useful for me.
I'm still gunna keep coming back for as long as I can, however all of these things combine to make this an obscure place that doesn't quite scratch the back of my brain to come back to much.

If anything, I think something that would help would be a "common scams" type of warning. Otherwise this place has been great. Love you and thank you for all that you've done. You gave us "rejects" ("alternative lifestylers") a place to gather and I cannot thank you enough for that. Dread is magic.

When will we be able to upload profile pictures?

I think the option to eliminate vendor posts in the search function when searching something such as "top cocaine vendors in (insert country name)" would be helpful for small-time users.

When I try to search for a substance I get overwhelmed with the amount of vendor posts claiming to be the best. I'm looking for other small-time users that have made reviews so I can gauge who the trusted vendors are and the community's opinions on the quality of whatever substance I'm searching for. Giving the option to filter out vendor posts would help these types of searches significantly.

Thanks for giving us a chance to suggest potential improvements. I know you guys will take it all into consideration.

ngl i would like that dropdown menu of "how much do you want to stay logged in". im pretty sure no body uses it (or at least I dont). takes empty space imo.

First of all I just want to say, as others have said, that I love and am fond of Dread for what it is now. I'm not aware of a lot of the background and I don't want to go into it, but it seems obvious to me that to think that Dread is responsible for the exit scams of the markets on Superlist is nonsense. Your job of monitoring (and I mean everyone's) may not be an exact science, but we as users should simply be thankful that it exists.
Exactly as we should be thankful for the existence of a stable and enduring platform that allows us to talk about the topics we cover on this forum with much more freedom than we might have elsewhere.
As the nerd that I am, thank you for that.

Certainly many improvements can be made and I honestly believe I am none to give advice not being a veteran of the platform, but reading the comments it seems clear that a big help could be delegating tasks, and to ACTIVE people who care about the project.
I know it is easy in words. Trust, delegation, activity, interest. I know.
It's just that I believe in the power of a community like a Yu-Gi-Oh player believes in the heart of the cards. :)

Firstly, thank you for Dread and happy early 7th birthday! Dread is such a game changer and has saved countless lives and dollars for us. I'm a casual who doesn't log in every day but the first place I always go is Dread. Its help in avoiding exit scams alone is beyond reproach. There's nothing like Dread and the entire community and DNMs would be so much worse and more dangerous without it. Thank you for making the world a better safer place for us!

The minitory scream that we are "gate-keeping" towards new markets on disallowing them to have Ads.

Ignore them! Haters gonna hate and you literally can't please everyone. These are people with money and drugs on the line, and most of the time they don't have users or community's best interests in mind outside of profit. I wouldn't waste your valuable time trying with them.

• All subdreads should have a FAQ and/or Wiki. This will reduce burden on Dread from countless duplicate searches and cut down on new posts that ask the same things (e.g. differences between k (s/r isomers, shards/rocks/sugar), differences between colors of molly, how to know identify the drug you bought, how to do basic quality control with your drug, how to hot plate coke, differences between benzos, etc)
• Subdreads should also have a help line or help flair. So users, often newbs, who are posting about a pack missing or some other crisis can be properly categorized and addressed while not just going in the melting pot of discussions and ads
• Ads should be flaired as such and should be grouped up at top or bottom, separate from user posts. Some subdreads like /d/MDMA are littered with ads, right now 9/10 posts on the frontpage are just ads. This makes the entire subdread less useful or navigatable by users.
• Generally leverage flairs more for categorization. This will help subdreads be better organized and provide more value to users. Maybe allow users to filter easily by flair.
• Search should ideally group results together by post so it's easier to parse and see older or less relevant results. When flairs are better leveraged, adding it to a search filter would also be great.
• Some moderators act like tyrants and it'd be great if there were some checks and balances so they don't poison subdreads unchecked.
• Be clear on what Dread is and what Dread is all about, a North star so to speak. If you asked users today what Dread is supposed to be and what its goal is, you'd likely get different answers. Is Dread about drug safety or DNM safety? Or is it about free speech and a counterculture where users can talk about things they can't on clearnets? Or is it about people helping people? Or is it about drugs in general? What level of philosophy is owned by subdreads vs greater Dread This could help align everyone and make us more of a singular community that achieves the goals you want for Dread/us.
• Having a donation drive every now and then (less frequently than wikipedia) would be great. Right now, donations are kind of tucked away and it's too easy to forget that this is an amazing free service we are using. Plus, studies do show that people value something more if they have to pay for it vs getting it for free, all else being equal.

So thankful for the tremendous work that's being done to keep Dread going. You guys are the unsung heroes.

I love dread.

Shout out to Hug Bunter you a real one, thank you for this community

Dread is a lifeboat for good information in times of chaos (which are quite frequent). If there was a subscriber fee, I would subscribe. Thank you for all of your efforts.

Bring back the dread when discussions were backed with factual information not egotistical opinions!

Man
I love dread!

best community on the DW!

Dread is amazing, sadly let down by some of the marketplaces allowing or siding with scammers. But it is without a doubt a great place. When I get more money I will donate. Like anywhere money has to come from somewhere so in some subthreads there are some biases. If more people donated and less money was needed from sponsors then it would probably be easier to speak your mind on some vendors and market places.

fr dread is amazing

Dread has been an extremely informative source of knowledge for me. If I need to know something in regards to the Darknet, opsec, or nything computer related, Dread is always the first place I look. With that being said, the one thing I find myself wishing it had was a better means of discussing Ideas, giving advise, and forming partnerships in REAL time. Perhaps you can create a live chatroom for each subdread. Something that allows people to communicate in real time, whether it be a 1-on-1 conversation or within a group. The other thing I think would improve the site a lot is a means of rating each user in terms of trustworthyness and positive collaboration with other users. The current point system does next to nothing in terms of letting users know whether a specific user is trust worthy or not. I could think of many different ways to rate users in this way, but I will leave that up to you. Regardless of what you decide to do, I do want to thank you and your team of Mods for everything you do. Its great knowing there is a place on the Dark web that people can trust because its admins operate with morality. Thank you /u/HugBunter

Even though I'm late, thank you for Dread HugBunter <3

Youse are crushin it. 10 / 10.

Is there a donation link or xmr address?

There's surely lots of money floating around and I hope that you are being compensated.

I really hope dread and /u/bigdog729 can get test4pay happening somehow.

i would say make the community more welcoming and friendlier

this isnt the old days , be cooler .. the site is more assessable . i know atleast 3 kids under 16 in my neiborhood on here buyng vapes and carts and they should be able to do that without a old man calling them Kevin ( which i dont know wtf that mean ) or being treated unfairly because we seem " green " !

ALSO wtf is it with this DOWNVOTING problem we have in the community ?

Dread is great is needed fundementally, but i think some of the subdreads are corrupt to make their own personal profit and censor certain opinions that go against those paying them off

I sent you a dm about an issue i have that I would like to offer a bounty if you can help me /U/hugbunter . I would be forever in your debt..

i still fwu hugg but we ain’t forget bro .. sad way to go out 😒

I am grateful that a platform like this exists. You've did your thing. Everyone who is suggesting that we put up a paywall isn't thinking. This idea will end up backfiring as it creates a significant barrier to entry. Dread thrives on user activity and engagement and a paywall will lead to a smaller, less active community, making the forum feel empty or unappealing even for paying members.

We have faced many attacks from every angle, along with every other platform in this scene, whether it be DoS attacks, FUD, phishing, spam. We've been through it all, we always come out on top, we always pull through.

You've done a hell of a job brother.
Blessed.

Dread was pure before the upgrade to dread 2.0
People use the +1 button because it was anonymously
( ok, there were cases of fake votes by new accounts
but at least dread live a good life with allot off online people.
we are on the dark net for privacy, so the fact that votes are not private anymore is strange.
people use it the opposite way today as before the upgrade.

no offense, but Paris is also a little responsible for this.
I remember the scammer Sankhara all people that vote +1 in negative topics he deleted every one off them user acounds including myself.
This was so wrong.

Honestly I think we need to give each other some grace on here. As a user I want to use a secure tested market. I know there are up and coming markets that will get there but they can mature as they should.

We are all human, there isnt really another community like this. I think Dread is still a great place and most of us are here to help others where we can and learn our self

Apart from getting banned from the Aussie sub within about 8 seconds of joining (Fuck ya right back cunts), the experience here is generally awesome - as a long-time listener, recent caller of this end of the web.

I caveat everything to follow with the simple truth that as someone who just staggered his way around various onions, Dread was clearly and starkly the best place to hang ones hat with outright awesome vibes. It's incredible and testament to ya'll how quickly you can make a motherfucker feel at home (except those fucking aussies lol).

So all of that said, I think the moderation could possibly come down a notch - I say this for a number of reasons:
(a) you got people worried about bans for not doing the 'request contact without requesting contact' dance properly, meanwhile as I write this, on FrontPage, you got old mate direct dealing/scamming evidently a few tonne of MDMA from his own fucked up sub.

(b) Intuitively, as some someone who spent a great deal of time communicating in a very high-stakes world for a living, the moderation levels are stifling the flow of information at a time when that is contrary to the interests of each and every one of us on the forums. It's difficult to articulate the phenomenon, but the chilling effect on discussion amounts to a chilling effect on the flow of information that is only appreciated when it is provided.

(c) It would be chill to have some threads that flowed a bit more - this would result in way more buy-in from the less-committed.

The only other structural suggestion I would make is to try and gently steer the site away from sub tribalism - take the fucking Aussie sub as an example - it says it's the aussie sub ergo, aussies joining dread naturally join the aussie sub. But anyone says a fucking word that isn't about three or four drugs and it's like someone tried to talk about their newest equine-themed dildo at someone's grandma's funeral. Not saying the subs shouldn't evolve as they please but their should be at least some responsibility if you purport to cover a region to cover more than your own special interest within that region while cockblocking the formation of a possibly wider-interest group.

Finally, a "No stupid questions" policy would be good because frontpage is often littered with fresh meat getting the same bollocking for asking shit when it's only intuitive once you've done it a few times anyway.

So there's my two cents. I'd like to thank you and paris and co in particular and more broadly every motherfucker with an account here (including the fucking aussies) for building a sense of community which the idrealist can still gravitate to even when so much of what is behind the url curtain seems anything but idealistic at times.

Cheers cunts.

I find much of what /u/newbieforever2018 has said to echo my thoughts. Dread has been a lifesaver, in a few cases quite literally, and the majority of complaints I see tend to come from people being unreasonable in their expectations.

A few seem to never have learned that "free speech" has never meant freedom from consequences of that speech, never should and never will. You're free to say anything. You are not protected from any reactions or repercussions that come from others in response.

To that end, anything that makes reporting and moderation easier for mods would go a long way toward improving the site experience.
Grateful to all who've put in so much time, energy, emotional and mental labor into making Dread exist and survive.

Bring back recon,

To hold vendors to keep a good standard and across all markets they operate on they have a general score still.

good to buyers and vendors.

Can't quit this thread:

What about an area where we can propose enhancements and features and fixes and we can all vote on them as a way of prioritizing what's important to the community. Lots of SaaS companies do this and even ProtonMail does it. Anyone can propose something, and if it gets enough votes, it is looked at and evaluated and decided on then placed in a future release?

I can make a request today. You can evaluate and decide if you like it or not, but I can't get you evidence that 500 users agree with me and want it too.

Hiya,

/d/vendorsuperlist is finally something that probably many have wanted, and it came to fruition. I'd like to see it have a stronger part of the Dread community. Espceially since the market superlist has been really quite succesful.

I'd like to see more ways for new user to come to Dread. I think crypto, drugs and freedom loving individuals should find an easier way to get into Dread. We should make it easier to get here, with better tutorials, such I as have written here:
/post/2f789f4651342ef4db02
It was quite surprising to me that I couldn't find an easy guide for DNM clients to be safe. An all encompassing guide is necessary.

I think we need more effective ways to get people on Dread. Even the threads on Reddit with the lowest amount of people get more interaction with the highest threads on Dread. We should make it easier to get into the Darkweb. Guides should be made, updated and spread with more dedication. It's a high bar of entry to download Tor and get into the DW for most normies, we should not forget that.

On Ads. I'd say, vendors should be allowed to spam ads once a week, otherwise they get a month long ban. But, spamming ads for a week or so, helped me a lot as a vendor. I made my ads somewhat creative though. So I don't know. But less spam posts are a good thing.
It will make those ads more valuable, and it wont drone out the actual good posts.


Love,

KS

We live in a world with ever increasing restrictions on free speech and other issues. Leverage the dread brand. Promote the discussion of Crypto, Politics , finance etc. Commercialize this space. Pivot to a brand so people can rep in real life. Get Merch, podcast (dont expect founders to do this). Funnel users from clear net to this space. Do AMAs with hackers and notable users. Dread should have a presence on the clear net aswell in my opinion. Get on X.com and get active in the different communities like crypto,hacker,finance,drug,crime twitter.

Good news

as a newbie the one thing i appreciate is how yinz have kept the history of the site so pure with this and the tor news i really am up to date . im a little younger and im still safe cause for every scammer theres a good batch of guys so yeah love it dudes ill support my family via yinz one day so salute

- 1-5$ monthy subscription fee, or a small daily fee for folks who aren't online daily.
- free users can read as normal
- free users can creater maximum of 1 post per week, only if they are active : x amount of upvotes per rolling week, only upvotes from paid accounts count. however, upvote beggars is an annoying issue.
- free users can comment once per day, but they can reply to any reply on their comment.

Dark web has changed, Dread has changed and people that are active has changed too over time. I love dread. With all my heart, me too i ate some very nice hit in the face the last years. I dont want to point anyone but, fucking hell, its been hard. But i am still there, and i keep getting fucking hard hit in the face. The Ddos attacks, it has pumped life out of your body, i understand exactly what you mean. Its the same for me but different. I've been trying to call some issues that affect dread A LOT. All i get is ignorance and laughter. I really talk from my heart here, this forum has been the source of so much opportunities, most people here don't know but we get visit of very very high profiles gent here. Like very ... high profiles. I've got some opportunities and job that are straight coming out of a action movie. Even if i would tell, no one would believe and at this point i'm done trying to prove anything, its just useless. Why its useless? Because like i said in my intro, Darkweb has changed, during covid mostly and a lot of unexperienced users or just a very BIG wave of people that never understood the true essence of dark web and its uses. They all think that its only for illegal activities so its all we get these days, no more wikileak, no more darkdot journalism and articles, no more information sharing and true hacktivism. Now its all about fraud. Seriously, right now, its ALL about fraud. We should call this dark fraud now. I will tell you in my own broken frenglish words what is DarkWeb for me and dread is included in that descriptions:

DW and dread are spaces for freedom of speech, taboo and judgement. Its a place where you can share information without getting fucked or censored by overly abusive and authoritarians group that are destroying the society and pushing people to the verge of a never ending fall. Darkweb is like the savior of liberty of choice and tough, freedom of speech and information sharing. A space of never ending opportunities and knowledge. The thing that you can learn here are just unreal. Many of you are here to make money, like me. I am guilty, right now in my actual context, i have no other ways to actually put bread on table. But the fucking gigantic shit tornadoes of people that think darkweb is just a way to make illegal money with illegal act as overflowed the darkweb. Now, its like third world space and savior. So much untalented people and lazy fuck thinking darkweb is just a place to get rich illegally and leech from others that are actually putting the effort and that has sacrified years of their life at mastering a skill and try to make it worth. Just try to observe a bit, when you look at people talks, everyone is successful and rich here. Its like, its all about who has the biggest virtual dick now and how much you can extract from others with the lowest effort possible. Easily 70% of users here are extremely poor and untalented. The only talent they actually has is lying and trying to find someone with skills to leech on him and being a middle man just to get as much as possible out of their targets. Its even worst than that, you get poor fuck that say they are rich and successful then it attract other poor parasite that middle man by finding scammers. Its like a cycle of never ending clownery. Because of this mass of shitnado people that came in the darkweb during covid mostly, like many had nothing to do and they became in a week expert in everything on internet, its killing the essence of darkweb and the dread platform. Mods are just... in a major lost of control and its fucking normal because there is nothing they can do to resolve this and in same time giving the freedom that darkweb is supposed to bring. They would have to become authoritarians and control everything and it would just become clearnet #2 and its exactly what they dont want it happens. Well... some are fucking heavy autoriatrians trash and power hungry lifeless people that this place is the only place where the will be able to have any sort of control over people or just being listened at so they go all in in there or just abuse in plain sight of their power to gain and destroy others just because they can. But fuck that i dont want to push more on that subject, if there is not radical consequences, there wont be any radical changes.

Some says apocalypse is the solutions to restore peace. I am one of them. Really, some people need to know that when you shit on others, very fucking bad consequences can come to you in your personnal life. If you fuck with a drug dealer or a cartel in real life, bro, youll come back home and the heads of all your family will be in order from the smallest crane to the biggest on the dinner table waiting for you and the body cooking in the oven for dinner. Some thinks that because they are being their computer and they hide they can do and say whatever they want. I have some solutions for many heavy issue Dread has. They are a bit radical but they wouldnt remove the freedom of act and speech. Its just that people would start to become much more honnest and respectfull and it would bring back dread when it was a place of sharing knowledge, getting incredible opportunity and simply making good friends. There is still good people here but they are disapearing because they are getting leeched and fucked over non stop publicly and people just sit and watch. Im hacktivist, im a fighter and i can absorb a lot of shit without putting a knee on the floor, i fight for changes, ive been for a couple year already, just fighting to be able to continue what i love the most. Hacking , forging, finding vulnerabilities and getting challenged to make a living yes but to grow, to become better at what i do and like and meet some fucking nice people along the way.

I have solutions, ive been completely demolished the past 3 years but i will never stop trying. You can fuck me as much as you want. I will always come back and continue to fight like a real hacktivist does. I will never fucking stop to be an actor of changes and i will never fucking shut my mouth and if i have something to say i will fucking say it outloud and i dont give a shit about how you will judge me, ill keep coming back and continue to try to make things better or just exposing them straight raw and after absorbing the consequences. What is the most important, /u/hugbunter, is never stopping even if it gets fucking hard and even life treatening because in my case, i i danced with death a couple of times around here.

If i can do anything to help you in your project, just give me a DM anytime, if its to help dread, i will never ask a fucking dime and ill put the time needed if its to make things here better. I want it become like it was before. I miss the respect and the skills we could find around here before. I want it comes back like it was before covid.

Hydroclock / Hydroz.

As a new denizen of the dark web, Dread so far has been an interesting gateway into everything else. I appreciate that much of the layout is very Reddit inspired but not a pure knock-off of the clearnet website. It's also very easy to find material for navigating this side safely here.

One improvement I could suggest: /d/cafedread needs better coffee. For some reason, they only serve French Roast and it's sometimes cold.

*haven't been here long enough to have any real major suggestions at the moment*

One last comment: Can you post an actual "Product Roadmap" publicly for feedback? It would help with pre-design ideas and inspiration and all that jazz.

You mention Daunt, what are the advancements? What is Test4Pay? What are the additional platform launches? You can obviously go into whatever detail you want but a sticky thread in a public place for all to see to provide real-time feedback would be crazy helpful.

Lastly what about a pay-for-admission model? Have some public facing areas but the vast majority is hidden behind a paywall of something stupid cheap like even $2 for 30 days... or $20 for one year. Whatever, right? It would filter out 90% of the junk. Prime example is /d/Fraud should absolutely be behind a paywall. No question at all.

We stopped using this platform entirely due to the moderations censorship. We cant say what we want to say and if we do we get banned which is insane. Out of all the places why is Dread a place that freedom of speech doesnt exist.

Too much power is given to moderation and nobody oversees whether they are doing a good or bad job. There are too many restrictions..... what once was a fun place to come to and advertise, speak to the public, has turned to a censored moderation controlled enviorement.

Decrease the restrictions and moderation control is our advice.

You have done a great thing with Dread. The main issue I have with Dread are vendor posts. They crowd up so many subs and the search feature. I for example posted a thread about a possible scammer vendor on d/Archtyp. But if you go to the front page of that sub, it's literally all spammy ads from vendors. Nearly all of them have 0 comments and 0 upvotes, it's just voluminous spam that crowds up what should be a community. I'm not on here nearly enough to know if this has been brought up or discussed.

We got great respect for this platform and your effort.

Me as a vendor would like to be able to advertise my service in a better/more visable way.

Even though i understand this platform is aimed at the customer.

Have a great evening!

Thank you Dread personnel for your hard work!
Your work is very important for whole community.

Grateful for this platform and all it does and you do for the community.

I comment for myself, guns should be allowed here. They are just objects, their utilisation is good or not. Hacking something has more impact than safely storing a gun in your house.

Dear HugBunter, text indicates you are mostly a proponent of the Austrian School of Economics. ;-) (P3)

just wanna say thanks and keep up the good work

Like so many things in life, I think that for many people the value (and importance) of Dread would only be truly realized if it wasn't here. I love it as it is: it's my go to platform and the place where I post anything important first. Anything new or extra is a bonus or a nice to have. :-)

Thanks /u/HugBunter for all of your work.

We would really like to see the superlist process a bit more clear and formalized. We really want to be able to have the ability to promote but its impossible unless receiving this designation.

I think the process should be formalized - with perhaps an assigned mod - to work with or oversea a market or services progress in meeting certain benchmarks and criteria to be given the designation. I am still very unclear of the process and what the next steps are though I have viewed them - I do not know who to contact with regard to moving along within this process.

Hopefully, this can be made clearer and more transparent soon.

we need a global chat for slop

we need to have less respect for vendors that sell dangerous LSD analogs and other drugs that have no use other than making ill gotten money

A subscription to be able to post or comment anywhere outside of DarknetMarketsNoobs. A dollar a month would be easy for anybody. If you had a dollar for each unique poster per month, would you be able to keep the lights on?

Could even put a cap on the amount of searches people can make for free and charge for anything over that. Need to register in order to use the search. Pay as you go. Top up your dread wallet and it automatically deducts for anything over the cap.

I think what you've got here is an actual business and you're no different than anyone else in the world. It's hard fucking work. Each day people are at you, want to take you down, compete with you, and it's a constant struggle. It's hard, yo'

First of all, well fucking done.

I mean, if this place were to go tits up tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear. I would actually shed multiple tears and be really freaking depressed. It's a community and it's kind of awesome. It's one of the highlights of my day to sign on here and read how someone got scammed or who's fucking over who, or what drugs are the bomb! M'fucker.

Second, please tell me you guys got backup copies of the code base saved off somewhere with people who could spin it up again if something went sideways? I like 747s with four engines in my life. One of them gets shut down, the aircraft keeps running along and nobody realizes anything happens and they keep sipping their tea and eating the caviar up in first class. So tell us you are gonna be able to keep this running, yea? Even if ya'll get taken.... there should be a Plan B and Plan C. It's worth it.

Third, I am not convinced that this ain't run by some of the letter agencies. I mean why a better way to get a pulse on the dark web than to fucking run Dread yourself, right? Best honey pot in the world. I don't think that's the case, but I also don't think it is impossible. I'm going to say there is a 5% chance /u/HugBunter graduated first in his class at Quantico and /u/Paris is some fucking postal inspector bitch.

Lastly, I don't have any recommendations. Keep doing exactly this. Getting feedback, iterating, making enhancements. The sites that didn't do this all die (see: Craigslist, MySpace, et al). So definitely keep the lights on, make da money, have a fun time doing it, and hopefully the po-po ain't up your ass anytime soon and you all have a pile of BTC.

You're amazing.

PS. Ain't kidding about the OSINT possibilities of Dread in the wrong hands. We're all fucked. lol

I just created an account and this is what I see? What is going to happen to Dread?

I think that if dread wasn't here a lot of people would quickly realize they didn't know what we had until it was gone. I would wager that this forum has saved peoples lives. Keep up the good work and don't let anyone get you down.

Just feels like the community is dead, there's no room to grow and i don't think it's the platform itself just feels like no posts are being made and the quality is lacking.

Myself as a newly established vendor only advertise on here and I don't get many sales if any at all, but I can't say dread the's issue.

I also find myself not wanting to post guides and such because no one else does, some people do and post useful information but it doesn't seem worth it, compared to many years ago everyone was helping each other out to navigate this strange space.

Imagine the amount of lives you saved thanks to Dread

It's probably in the hundreds

Thank you for all your hardwork, 7 years is something to be proud of

Congratulations and I wish you all the best

I am truly sorry. I have been dealing with personal issues. Dread has been Life-Changing for me! Period! I definately have Not done my part to pay-it-forward with regard to service to Dread. In the future, I hope to change that!
I would also echo the first 2 commentors (newbieforever2018 & WinstonWolfCSR) in the idea of"just be nice"!
As for actual improvements...Dame Hug...what you've got thus far practically perfect and I've always been taught "If it isn't broke..."
But, I do understand the principle of allowing Anyone to Post with True anonymous (alts). If ever, That IS real 1st Amend Freedom. Maybe the answer isn't pay-to-play; Rather Pay-to-Post!?
I am a big fan of the "Invite-ONLY" Sub and leaving some real power in the hands of mods to each individual sub. Must past that... I am just REAL Thankful to Hug and a HUGE list of others Too big to mention!
Keep Doing what your doing!!!

I look forward to seeing the advancements you have planned.

What i personally would like to see regarding the advertisments, is a way for smaller vendors like myself to do paid advertisements on Dread.
It might be an idea to get sepperate advertisments for vendors and marketplaces, this could also generate a bigger cashflow for Dread itself as vendors are likely to advertise here. Create a sepperate dedicated place for these advertisements, somewhere that i would not interfere with the marketplace ads.
To avoid scams the vendors could provide proof of a number of sales that have to be met in order to advertise.

Thanks for all the great work /u/HugBunter

/u/HugBunter for new accounts you could add the limit to comment till they create at least 2-3 threads or have the premium, this could be a good way to clean from fud and fund dread.

Thank you for this community and letting us be apart of the journey forreals !

The biggest issue right now is that Dread is flooded with low quality posts, like vendors advertising their products. I can't think of a single person that's actually bought something from one of those ads. All it does is just clutter the website, and it should be against the rules to post advertisements in subdreads that aren't dedicated for advertising. I want to browse the subdread of a marketplace to read about it and how it operates, and instead I get spammed with low quality posts.

Test4pay sounds great, but it would be better if just shipping + fees would be covered. I'd much rather have a reputable testing service that stuff can be sent to any time and lasts a while, rather than one that pays me to send them stuff but goes defunct quickly because of lack of funding.

hey /u/HugBunter!

this seems like a great time to mention there's a sub called /d/newmarkets where fresh markets have the ability to freely advertise as long as they follow global market rules!

I'm grateful of the priorities to see beefing up Daunt. Reliable markets are essential but so is a solid listing service.

/u/HugBunter..... I just want to say thank you. Dread has changed our lives in so many positive ways. We are, and forever will be, extremely appreciative of the community that's grown here around what you built.

Crazy to see its about to be Dreads 7th birthday. I remember when Hug posted on about his project on reddit and I signed up immediately when I could. This forum has kept the DN alive and made it a better place

I think there could be an actual rating system, i.e. yelp, for markets. With a good bit from verified buyers. Because we all know other vendors/markets will try to leave bullshit reviews. Also part of the rating system can come from individuals better versed in the ins and outs of opsec of a market and it's actions of it's admins. New markets start out at a lower rating and build up a reputation. During initial stages they can promote and advertise, and if they do well, then they get more recognition. It really happens that way organically. However maybe they'd feel better actually seeing it happening in front of them? They just need to see and run things as a business and be patient, but we know how that goes...

End of 2024 you guys FINALLY started taking steps to fix the moderation that was one of my biggest complaints. Post approval are still a problem becuz you could literally follow every guideline to a fucking T and the mod will still be like "you violated the guidelines" or "this doesn't meet the criteria" or my favorite "post pending approval" for months on end never to see the light of day. The fucking baby bottle accounts are annoying. Dread to me is popular for sure but aint no fucking way its this many new people constantly, I feel like they jus scam/get banned and come back like roaches. Put a fucking pause on creating new accounts for a time being. Besides that the rest pretty much relies on the users providing new info instead of repeating the same shit that is already on here (use the search bar people) over and over. Met some great people on this site but also met a shit ton of worthless souls.

I can't find the post mentioning this but tagging advertisements as such and adding an option to filter them would vastly improve the user experience. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to search for something, only to find dozens of daily advertisements from a vendor flooding the system. Most recently, I wanted to find information on vaporizing opium like they did in China, but could find nothing on Dread due to the hundreds of advertisements for the OpiumVape clogging up the search results. I know it would be tough to retroactively tag ads, but perhaps vendors could be put in their own user class that could be filtered if the spam is too much.

I keep coming back to Dread because it allows more freedom of information than any clearnet forum, especially around the sale of drugs, but it's not without need for improvements.

Maybe ease up on your "morals" a little. I understand your point of view on this, but the world is changing and not in a good direction. Authoritarianism is on the rise across the world and the people crave for means to defend themselves and fight back. I'd much rather see a world where the people of the world rally together on the dark web, the world's last bastion of freedom, to fight our common enemy, instead of a world where the dark web is destroyed because nobody stood in its defense.

I'm not saying allow gun markets or anything crazy like that, but maybe don't be so tough on people who call for violence. Particularly when it's directed at the oligarchs and kings that so rightfully deserve the full unadulterated wrath of their people. It's not as unwarranted as it may have been up until not that long ago, and not everybody can just "fuck off and make their own forum if they don't like it here". For many surfers of the dark web, Dread is all or nothing.

If you still have your DMs with /u/oldfagdelux then I suggest you re-read them. If not, here's a recap. Change your infrastructure to:

+ Deleted messages should remain visible at least to Paris/Hugbunter in case of a moderation dispute
+ Allow users to file moderation disputes to be resolved by Paris/Hugbunter or perhaps another high-level global mod. You will not have a true free speech platform until you take this step. As it stands right now, moderators rule with an iron fist, and there's nothing even you seem to be able to do about it other than give empty words of reassurance
+ Banned users should not have all of their content removed as part of the ban. Much valuable information has been needlessly lost to this already. Separate the man from the messenger

You can DM me if you want to learn how we plan to implement all of this in our forum. Not that you'd need my advice, but it's there if you want it.

Hear me out on this. I know it didn't work how we wanted last time we tried.....AI Automoderator. It's still in staging cussing me out, and saying hurtful things, but we can fix it and make it better than ever....maybe.

All joking aside here is my one suggestion. We have talked about it a few times over the years, but I think the reporting system could use some fixing. Scammers have gotten a lot better about over the years. Some of our tools still work good. I think making it easier to file reports and give more details would really help. Especially when it comes to the DM spam. Maybe even an automated system with X number of reports can trigger the filters better.

or we could just finish AI automoderator and let him send unlimited messages to the scammers. /u/Paris might not be happy with the database size if we do that though.

it would be nice if we see how many people are online with login and open users.
who is online I dont need to know.

lose anything to do with fraud its only trouble

Yo, just wanna say mad props for keeping Dread alive through all the chaos. The burnout, the attacks, the endless drama, this place wouldn’t exist without your grind. Seriously, the fact you’re even *asking* for feedback shows how much you care.

On the gatekeeping thing: I get why people are salty about new markets not getting ads right away, but honestly? The Superlist feels like the least-worst option. Scams pop up daily, and letting every sketchy site promo here would turn Dread into a minefield. Maybe add a “probation” period for new markets? Let ’em post in a designated “newbie zone” with disclaimers, and if they survive X months without exit-scamming, they graduate to full ads. Let the community roast ‘em in the comments, crowdsource the vetting, y’know?

Moderation-wise, maybe let trusted users flag stuff temporarily until mods review? Like a “community watchdog” role. And for reporting,give us a “why” dropdown (scam, spam, security risk, etc.) so you’re not sifting through 500 “plz fix” vague reports.

Also, take a damn vacation. Or delegate. Burnout’s gonna nuke this whole thing faster than a DDoS. The community’s ride-or-die for Dread, but we need *you* functional.

Anyway, appreciate you opening this up. Don’t let the loud minority gaslight you into thinking you’re not doing enough. Most of us just wanna keep this place from turning into a dumpster fire. Keep it

Fraud shouldn't be allowed here

I don't really have anything of substance/value to say, just wanted to give you and the rest of the team their due props. Thank you Hug, Paris, Shaky and Solar for everything. I wish i could contribute to supporting you guys but unfortunately i'm pretty tight with my finances(not to take into account that i have way too much important shit that i need to spend money on at the moment) and i'm holding onto what i have left of monero given that the feds made it a fucking bitch to acquire some since the crackdown of last year. I'll try to give back whenever it will be possible and that i can manage to scratch some money for more cryptos but as of now the only support i can give you all is me being grateful for all the hard work you're putting in for all of us.

Stay strong y'all, i want to keep being part of this amazing community and see what the future holds for every other regular users like me who loves dread.

You are saying "no bias can come into play from decisions of Dread staff" for superlist approval, yet /d/DarkNetMarkets mods (SamWhiskey) say you have to contact Dread staff to get approval. Dread staff (you) are literally ghosting when asked about Superlist.

You are contradicting yourself. Can you blame people for accusing you of gatekeeping?

Moderation
too many inactive mods imo nothing being approved too many subs for too few mods so it slow everything up

Reporting
10/10 but still a lot of spam u might need someone full time just doing that u got the fake money chimp allbills or whatever and then you have the carding scammers pretending to have a credit card(or whatever) and baiting new users into getting scammed by direct deal

then u got baby bottles on markets subs posting signal for direct deal

Market Ad approvals
idk never got approved SOBS*

Superlist alternatives
superlist idk i dont rly use it anymore tbh nothing against it just not 4 me

when are u gonna relaunch recon?

IMHO, member attitudes are the main obstacle. When visiting Dread you should feel the energy and with enthusiasm read the latest posts and contribute your self.

When I read /d/freelance, /d/Jobs4Crypto or /d/Laundromat it's full of obvious scams and pure fucking BS. Hardly nothing of value. One idiot trying to scam another idiot. I don't blame the mods, thus their task is impossible when 99% is just pure crap. I see the same pattern in other subdreads as well.

I will not take up everybody's time with lengthy statements, so I go to my suggestion straight away.

Dread need to brain check new and existing members. Based on IQ and EQ members gets their privileges to contribute.

I don't mean that only IQ 200 pluses are welcome, but a reasonable logical and emotional level must be there for the greater community well being.

It should be a privilege to be a Dread member, not something taken for granted. Sure, idiots should still have access to some entry level subs.

An healthy community of 400-500 members is way better than a half million idiots with 100+ accounts each.

Thank you


I think it would be good
to have a secondary
Superlist
alternative
in case
the primary one fails to produce any current superlist markets
due to unforseen circumstances

kind of like a minor league
double probabtionary
superlist
with a sub for posting adds

Thanks you

an immediate
and total
site wide
ban
on
Donkeys.

Frankly, I disagree with everybody sucking your dick.
Dread sucks.

This is NOT a Free Speech forum. Period. It just isn't.
You and your minions have clearly NEVER USED a TRUE Free Speech forum.

Moderation and censorship ALWAYS suppresses the Truth. ALWAYS. No matter how "careful" you are or how "necessary" you think it is. That demonstrates that you lack faith in your fellow man and you think we need to be coddled by YOUR judgments of what is "right" or "moral".

Your restrictions on who can create pages suppresses the potential sharing of critical information from new users who might come here for the SOLE PURPOSE of sharing sensitive information that cannot be risked on the surface web and that cannot afford to undergo "moderation" from anybody who might arbitrarily decide to censor or prohibit the information.

I NEED a Free Speech forum; this is NOT it.

I will take my leave now and will never return to dread. I just wanted to share my two cents before I go.

Markets ads am totally against it. because eventually you will create a pattern of markets who wants to host ads on Dread when they start considering: "That's it, i had my time, am gonna exit scam on the next few months". So, stick with vendors ads or new private shops.

And on the early 2000's there was that internet forums who have a limit count to read posts. Like you can read 6 or 10 posts and then you must Sign Up on the forum to continue your reading. other than helping to grow the forum community in this way it will also improve content quality, and the long term engagement of the memebers by implementing this feature.

Make a mandatory read for first members once they first login would be a first start. That way we can try to avoid babybottles get scammed and being misdirected from shady members of this community

Force all accounts to have a PGP key to be attached. It will cut down on the people who cant be bothered to read on all subs

One proposal that I had in mind: have your XMR address on the donate page. The idea is that when I'm purchasing something from a vendor using XMR, I typically transfer slightly more than required and the rest comes back to my refund address. I'd rather put your address there and let those couple of dollars be refunded to you as a donation.

In general, the donation process should be as simple as possible. If you can have the BTC, XMR, LTC, etc addresses available on the donation page - please do so. If it's an OpSec risk - limit yourselves with what's feasible.

For reporting, I'd like to see a lab reported tests sub-dread, so each report has some substance rather than personal opinions or shills.

I really appreciate Dread for what it is. Unlike other forums, Dread stands out with its unique structure and focus, and that’s one of the main reasons I enjoy using it. The way the /d/Superlist operates is another aspect I really respect. Although I’m not entirely familiar with the approval process, I can see how it poses a significant challenge for new markets. The requirement of being active and reliable for over a year to get listed ensures a certain level of trust and stability, which is crucial for this community.

One suggestion I’d like to make is about posting permissions. Right now, anyone can post in any subdread, which is great for open discussions. However, for certain subdreads, it might make sense to restrict posting and commenting to subscribers only. This could enhance the quality of discussions and reduce spam or irrelevant posts in those focused areas.

Thanks again for all the effort you’ve put into this platform, and I also want to wish you good health. It’s clear how much you’ve invested over the years, and your dedication doesn’t go unnoticed. Take care, and thanks for being open to feedback!

1. Moderation
I think it would be good to implement some kind of policy that penalizes those who repeatedly violate the few moderation rules there are, or perhaps a tiered system of moderation where some violations are deemed unforgivable (marketing guns, murder, CP, etc - suggestive or otherwise), and others are simply treated with a warning (posting in the wrong subdread).

2. Reporting
This would mostly tie into what I wrote above, but another improvement on reporting might be a read-only ticketing system where those who create the report can view how the matter is handled by either subdread admins or Dread staff. It could also be used to associate reports to user accounts (which I'm sure is already a thing), which would deter false reporting by tracking the number of "unfounded" reports submitted by a particular user.

3. Market Ad approvals
I don't necessarily have a horse in this race. I don't think that advertising should be restricted to Superlist markets, but I don't think it should be a free for all either. There has to be some middleground where new markets are able to get some visibility after completing some manner of approval process. One Idea to try and deter scam markets and other bad actors could be tiered pricing. The less established a market is the more costly advertising should be.

4. Superlist alternatives
This I think is important but also obviously a tricky situation. I personally don't use any superlist markets currently, albeit I do intend to get on at least one in the near future. My problem with funneling users to superlist markets is that all superlist markets will inevitably A. Be seized by LE or B. Perform an exit scam There are several non-superlist markets who have been around longer than some of the superlist markets. Particularly domestic-only markets that have 5+ years of good standing, but aren't eligible (or in some cases aren't interested) in superlist status.

Those are my two cents, don't spend them all in one place.

fuck'n love dread.

I know it's stupid but

One of the perks of premium membership says no ads.
I still get those ads on the top left corner of my frontpage :(

I think its simply become raped by young people trying to make a quick $ in anyway shape or form.
Used to come on here and read on topics from people you can tell know there shit and have open talks
Now it seems they all just wana sell you some bullshit or talk shit.
Want to be darknet kids i dont know what we would call them but i think you understand clear enough.

My complaint is you’re inconsistent with how active you are around here and seem to only pop back in to crack some skulls, make a big post then you’re gone again.

So much gay shit happens on this platform lately and it’s out of control. Too many baby bottles talking pure shit. Close off new account creation until you get things under control here.

Surely the approvation times of superlist is something too long, when did last market join the pending list?

I have no complaints. I don't think new markets or vendors that have NOT proven themselves to be put on the same pedestal as our regulars doin good business for years now. It's not Dread's job to help break out new vendors, it's their own job.

Btw any chance you can pick up duant.link and tie it to a redirect to Daunt? The URL looks like it should be available.

It is good to see you back Hug and looking to find ways to improve Dread.

The thing I'm noticing a lot now when modding is the sheer amount of brand new accounts who write a few posts attacking vendors or members here and it doesn't matter how many times I ban them and delete posts, they come back the next day to repeat the behaviour. I've banned more accounts in /d/thegoodspeedguide past week or so than in all the time I've been mod there.

Not sure if this is feasible or not, but what about having fresh accounts to need all their posts requiring mod approval for a set period of time and sent to the queue as standard? Might be difficult to implement in subs which don't have active mods every day but this would definitely help I think. The only other option I can think of is having all posts in speed sub going straight to the post queue but that I feel is unnecessary and not fair on the vast majority of members who do abide by the rules.

I still 100% believe that new accounts should be restricted - no new posts for x days and any comments have to be manually approved.

I would strongly vet for creating darknet decentralization anonymous working group.

Hello /u/HugBunter,

I posted /post/f5a63a4ecec59a34912e the other day as I was reading through some pinned OPSEC posts, and the topic seems relevant to your request here for some feedback.

I haven't been around here for most of Dread's existence, but I was extremely grateful to find it upon returning to the DN, not having participated since SR days. A LOT has happened and changed over the years! What a blessing to find such a treasure trove of knowledge and experiences!

My above post is mainly expressing concern for the new and inexperienced users that trickle in and how, as the days go by, things change in terms of how and why, often very quickly. It would also apply to anyone who isn't around and keeping up with Dread posts regularly. I see that the current information is here, but often spread across multiple posts and sometimes sundreads and not connected directly to the old information and/or writeups. The example I use in my post is regarding TG and how they are confirmed to be sharing user data with LE at this point.

My question is if there may be an efficient means of connecting related dots across Dread to both assist the new users that come along in finding correct information unassisted, but also to minimize large housekeeping tasks that inevitably arise as the landscape changes.

Anyway, I'm stoked to be here and thank you and everyone else who has made this oasis of information and connections possible!

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Good post, i/we appreciate you reaching out to the community, and I think it's also time to do so.

Here's the thing; Dread, as you said, started off with the most admirable intentions and although that worked for a while however many individuals are constantly trying to undermine it. The important thing here is that this isn't the fault of the Dread staff or owners. It's unfortunately inherent to this community, to a certain extend. There's a lot of FUD, negative influence and unclear rulings. This is also due to the fact that users can open subdreads by having an x amount of score or status which can be easily obtained, create an incredible amount of alts on different TOR nodes and IP addresses and so on or generate a little history to vote manipulate the hell out of posts.

However, it's hard to judge here because running any platform of the size that Dread has become is hard enough in and onto itself. (And both /u/Paris and /u/Hugbunter have done an admirable job.) This is also why there are moderators throughout. And as much as we can appreciate and have a need for the human element in terms of choices and moderation, sometimes it should be eliminated.

In terms of Ad approvals, this should coincide with a new way of superlisting markets and especially keep them superlisted. It's nice that markets get superlisted, but sometimes it seems a bit unclear in terms of process. Yes, there's a list of things any given market should at least adhere to, however make the process easier and less dependent on human involvement it might be best to implement a two-step process of getting listed and staying listed. We know that /page/marketstandards state the requirements, however it's divided in Rejection / Negative / Positive / Super Positive -> What are the minimum requirements in this. Is this decided by the team, or is there a very clear red line. I'm saying this because the superlist subdread states : being live for 6 months and meeting the minimum requirements.

To us, this needs updating and clarification. As well as safety precautions. For example: In our view, no Superlist market should even touch Bitcoin. How many years of conviction have happened due to this. We know many markets that shoot up out of the ground still accept other crypto's aside from XMR to increase fast growth, however this shouldn't be the growth any superlisted market should aspire to. For us, that's just one of the things that can be improved, but the conditions can be improved, revised and clarified. Aside from that, the level of minimum 6 months live is also not always adhered to as well. At the end of the day, the current situation serves as a pretty good guideline, but when it comes down to actual listing, for markets that are in that process, it creates leaps and bounds in terms of understanding. One option could be a stricter, very clear list of minimum requirements combined with 6 months live (and growth) to be probationary. Once moved to superlist there should be a minimum requirement of report and improvement either every month or every three months. Just being on the superlist and leaning back, in terms of how superlist markets are perceived for users as being "safe", shouldn't be enough. But that's just for markets who are actually on the superlist.

We don't think an extra alternative for superlist is needed, however the information provided and process itself can be sharpened and improved so it allows a few more trusted partners to be added while at the same time requiring a higher standard of staying there.

In terms of Advertisements, this is a tricky one because Dread needs funds to keep servers and operations going, but you can't have 50 ads for every new market that is being made on a daily basis. However, there have been vendors in the past that have become such a success that they outgrew a large part of small trusted markets in terms of revenue so what is applied here..a superlist market AND a trusted shop or should it be expanded. If the superlist process is simplified and improved, then ads can easily go along with it. It might not mean a huge increase but possible 30/50% over time in terms of ad-revenue. Dread could also implement promoted post to a verified list of subdreads. For example: a lower price for a promoted top post in /d/MDMA for verified vendors that sell MDMA. This can be combined with a minimum requirement of positive reviews in /d/test4pay or /d/reviews. This is just off the top of my head, so in this case it would have to be improved, but as you can see. Ads can be expanded in a non-intrusive and safe way.

Moderation is a tough one, we ourselves see that there is only so much you can do. If users want to FUD and can't post in one sub they will go to another. You might want to think about a more detailed global control of accounts rather than on a subdread level. For example, on Black Ops we have something called 'global restrictions' for accounts. This means certain features are still able to be performed while others are not, on an account level. There's also a need, if you ask me, for new users to gather 'rep' in order to be able to post in all subs. This could be introduced in Dread as well for easier and a more controlled global platform control.

There are a few other things that Dread can take from certain markets in terms of a separate guides section for new users rather than a third party platform. A more streamlined mod mail system with segregated requests and more control for sub mods, clearnet options and even simple things like approved posts will get postal time or approval and not when it was posted.. etc. It just depends on the time there is and what to prioritize. We're here to help if there's anything our team can do to.

Everything together, we think Dread is still a great platform and this is why, for us, we have decided not to launch any market related forum (yet) because our focus for community remains on Dread. Here, there are many options for Harm Reduction, vetted promotions and open discussions. However, just because it's the darknet, that doesn't mean strict rules can't be applied. It's human nature to try and circumvent these if bad intentions is what is in mind for some users. This does not mean that gatekeeping is needed but a lot of sharp thought and fine-tuning processes can get you very far.


All 'n all, Dread is a great platform and that's why, community wise, it has our main focus. If Dread keeps moving and growing with the community it'll stay the darknet beacon it is.



TLDR: Dread is Great! But i think rule clarification on superlist rules is needed and more usable global moderation outside of account ban.

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Honestly most complaints regarding dread are simply things every forum goes through. Politics and other dumb stuff like ego & scammers (which are frequently handled swiftly). These things are quite unavoidable.

I suggest reading my comment on /post/79358a0b554d96a910d1

I think breathing new life here should be #1 priority. If this could somehow be implemented (ill help the best I can), dread can finally feel fresh again.

I think this is a great site, and has more importance to the darknet than people realise.

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Dread is a cornerstone for its community, but a balance between growth, security, and transparency is crucial to maintain its credibility and longevity.

But..

Having more testing for harm reduction would be a massive plus. It should be the norm, not a rare bonus.
Somehow encouraging vendors to maintain a level of purity and quality control, and access to easier promotion for doing so.

I've purchased from so-called "top vendors" and received completely bunk or mislabeled products.

Nobody minds advertisement if it's done tastefully, as in targeted ads where they're useful. Having strict standards for those vendors advertising, like those same purity tests in order to qualify.

Personally, I believe the activity of fraud related subs has declined for the worse since the embargo on new posts. Now, this might be what some are even hoping for; although, no matter your perspective on the subject, the communities appear to be dying a slow death.

Preferences and morality aside (a chat for another time), the answer is not increased restrictions for new posts, but better moderation in addition to liberate posting requirements. By the time you post, it can take multiple hours until approved, and by then, your post can very well not populate on the frontpage due to time decay, significantly stifling any sort of discussion.

This is not to throw shade at the current moderators; I think most are doing a fine job. The problem lies in the structure, which presently does not set up the subs for success. The unfortunate truth is that it's a dog-eat-dog world for the outsized minority of scammers on those subs, and there's no protecting the ignorant nor gullible from being ripped while also allowing the communities to flourish. They either are well suited to spot the scam(s) before they are taken advantage of, or they sadly fall victim and learn their lesson the hard way. (Additionally, this is also where better moderation could come into play; those that actually know what they are talking about, and can spot these scammers from a mile off before they do any – preventable – harm.)

We absolutely appreciate the platform and space you've created and worked hard for. Never let the complaints take away from what you have built for all. It's a tricky situation for sure because less time and trust in the community does equal a more likely scam.

Give Dread a Russian clearnet URL like DrugHub. Easier access and more exposure to users on clearnet.

I believe that one thing that is sorely in need of improvement is some of the member's attitudes around here. From some of the hostility towards you or towards the platform itself it makes one wonder why these people don't go and populate that other better Dread out there. No one is forced to show face here. Reddit is still a plenty viable platform and yet the same members keep showing up here day after day, month after month, and year after year. To hear some tell it Dread has been going downhill for so long that it pretty much should be a blank white page by now.

When I saw the topic title and started reading I was expecting this to be an explanation of how inflation has impacted operations and there is now a need to put up a paywall for membership. No really, that thought came to mind.

Dread is simply the best platform of it's kind out there or everyone would migrate to the new improved forum. That you and Dread staff have provided this platform of and by itself is praiseworthy but to expect a magic wand that can completely filter out dnms that are about to go under is part of entitlement culture.

TLDR: I would like to see a bit more appreciation of Dread from those who use it and perhaps a bit less hostility.

Are there algorithms that can do basic filtering of Telegram scammers that post the same relative message with the same relative new account usernames? Maybe on a risk score and possible approvals?

I love most of Dread as it is. However, many of the big subs lack active mods. I actively look for potential new mods. Two new guys on /d/DreadMoments have gotten other mod positions since I added them. I add them to my tiny subs so they can learn how things work without worrying about breaking them. I've been doing this for a long time now. I started when I was modding /d/Free_Guides.

The crime subs are a problem. I don't have a solution for it. Not enough mods are available to do what /d/Fraud is doing on all the crime subs. Making it approval only has shifted the problem to other crime subs.

I love this place regardless of the small flaws it has.

maybe a good idea or maybe not, but creating a private section or completely different platform for people who Id say are more "professional"? I know they are here but it it seems that like 90% of posts on boards like /Hacking are just skids asking how to hack social media... not exactly a good look.

I appreciate and agree with dread proper being free but making something more in tune for those who wanna talk real game would be really nice.

"Gate keeping" is harm reduction. Thanks for your work

/u/HugBunter Thanks for creating a platform for us to speak freely and be ourselves! Ive been on this platform now since 2019 & ive enjoyed it more than any other kind of social media that there is! Much LOVE & RESPECT for you!

thank you /u/HugBunter for creating dread