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Please Fu**ing inform us whether you are returning or if it is over. : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

It takes hardly 5 minutes to inform us whether you are addressing the issues or if it is over LIKE ALWAYS!
Fucking tired of this bullshit. Even if it's a exit scam just tell us so that we can move on.

Furthermore, for For God's sake it is essential to begin normalizing FE and recognizing that achieving FE Status requires a significant amount of effort and trust. Buyers should place greater trust in vendors than to market, particularly those vendors with a longstanding reputation and substantial feedback. I have observed discussions among individuals here suggesting that if a vendor is FE Only Then one should cease purchasing from that vendor and begin placing orders with their competitors. Stop FE’ing to Market Admins

Finally Update from ADMIN :)

https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNCdmMzUXZPR1JrWldNNU5UVTJOREUyWWpnd1pUSXpOVE09#

/u/DojaDesperado P

9 points

2 weeks ago

Thing is, if it's an exit scam- they've already moved on.

When you split with the bag, there's no goodbyes.

/u/GasPasser

0 points

2 weeks ago

Their already getting the next market ready.
Rinse and repeat.

/u/DojaDesperado P

2 points

2 weeks ago

Possible, but I think most big market admins have probably aged about 15 years by the time their 2-3 year run is over. I imagine it's not a ride most people are going to want to ride more than once in their lives if they've made it to the top already before. By the time you've got an 8-9 figure nest egg, the money can make itself ad infinitum.

/u/poppymeow 🍼

2 points

2 weeks ago

im 80% positive its a big ddos attack. to just make everyone panic.
idk. could be wrong.

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1 points

2 weeks ago

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/u/Ratchet_Man

0 points

2 weeks ago

HOly shit they replied!

/u/CaptainPhuckwash

1 points

2 weeks ago

Why wouldn't there be updates if it was a DDoS? Smells like kipper to me.

/u/Stick

0 points

2 weeks ago

100%

This long without an update from ANYONE - you know it's bad.

/u/snowcrystal

2 points

2 weeks ago

people are funny its bin what 3-4 days with deposits and withdrawls not working with no word from a team member get real people they walked away

/u/jackmesrine

1 points

2 weeks ago

i'm really tired too...

LOST on archetyp , lost on abacus..... Every day there is something, we can no longer work

/u/spaincartel Abacus Vendor

0 points

2 weeks ago

people need to start normalising fe if a buyer is trusted to have it people shud have respect and use it

/u/RXChemist111 📢 P Abacus Vendor

0 points

2 weeks ago

Exactly!

/u/sprout

0 points

2 weeks ago

what about respected buyers? instead of finalize early for a vendor, there should be a delivery first for the customer.

/u/CaptainPhuckwash

1 points

2 weeks ago

With no update from mods or staff, its time to stop checking. Looks like the start of the end for DNM's unfortunately.

/u/cupidkinkaid

4 points

2 weeks ago

I dont think there is a start of the end of DNM's. Its normal when big market falls, second one going to be best one like Abacus and there are only like two ways where it can go and that is exit scam or they are under really big attacks.

/u/CaptainPhuckwash

2 points

2 weeks ago

Trust me, there are some people and vendors for sure that this is going to do serious damage to after Arch was taken in the same month. Not to mention all the buyers that will be thinking twice about putting their money anywhere near a market again. I just feel for the people that invested heavily with theirs or others money and are likely going to be on the wrong end of the gun so to speak if they cant make it right.

/u/VictoriaBitter

3 points

2 weeks ago

yeah i bought dildos the sizes of my guys' cocks the second abacus went down and have been throat training non stop since. hopefully they will let me show em what dat mouf do

/u/sweetbiscuit

1 points

2 weeks ago

I don't doubt that this will damage vendors especially since the market scene will be decentralized by this but I do think you're underestimating the importance of buying drugs to a user. Even for folks like myself with only psychological dependencies I couldn't imagine being unable to get ket since it's been so important for dealing with mental health issues so I'd follow to the next best market after every takedown and cut my losses of deposits. I'm sure it'd be the same for anyone who is also using something like coke/meth/opioids too. I also feel for all the vendors who will end up fucked over this especially if they are out massive amounts, but this is niche I think will never end up going away

/u/DojaDesperado P

2 points

2 weeks ago

Not a chance. When you consider how little has actually changed between Silk Road and now, it becomes obvious DNM's are here to stay. Not to mention how many markets have actually come and gone since Silk Road.

With every market iteration we're learning a bit better what works and what doesn't work. The DNM scene is still in its infancy, I mean I don't think we've produced any billionaires yet. YET.

But we will.

/u/Stick

2 points

2 weeks ago

DPR is surely a billionaire with the amount of BTC he must have

/u/DojaDesperado P

1 points

2 weeks ago

I think I read he received a $31 million in BTC donation since getting out of prison.

Not sure what else he might still have from SR days.

I hope that guy doesn't have a bad day the rest of his life.

/u/Stick

3 points

2 weeks ago

Luckiest cunt on the planet haha

You just know the "donation" must have been from himself lol

/u/DojaDesperado P

1 points

2 weeks ago

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever see another case like that walk out of prison before they're in their mid-80's.

Lucky for sure, but I bet his resolve had a lot to do with it, too. I'm not exactly sure how his case got in front of Trump, but it wasn't by wasting his days away in the clinker playing spades.

/u/JoeExotic P

1 points

2 weeks ago

trump wanted the crypto community in his pocket. it worked too. dude comes off like a donkey but he seems to win a lot.

/u/DojaDesperado P

1 points

2 weeks ago

Oh, well maybe old DPR played a lot of spades after all. lol

/u/yourfavoritecustie 🍼

1 points

2 weeks ago

This. I think the trump probably got word that this guys a hero in the crypto space. Even to people that never use Tor, but are into decentralization and block chain. DPR showed the world the first real use cryptocurrency had that regular currency did not. It was anonymous transactions on the darkweb.

/u/dreddyforit 🍼

1 points

2 weeks ago

What makes you say it is still in it's infancy?

/u/DojaDesperado P

2 points

2 weeks ago

Silk Road, the first DNM ever, was only roughly 12-13 years ago.

To the global drug scene, invention of DNM's was like civilization to humans. We still haven't perfected civilization thousands of years later. There's no way DNM's have peaked yet in only 12-13 years.

I see drone chain networks that will handoff your packs drone to drone across entire continents in the future. Powered by some hacked AI server and funded by crypto subscriptions. You think we're tethered to USPS and Fedex forever? Problems will keep coming up and we'll keep coming up with solutions like with anything else. Maybe someone figures out how to put an AI model at the helm of a market so it's impervious to temptation or attack.

We probably can't even dream up where this will all be in 500 years.

Maybe a darknetmarket will usurp the Amazons of the world one day offering blackmarket EVERYTHING, not just illegal things.

I don't think we can fully comprehend where this is ultimately going to go, but wherever it's going, it doesn't end with a couple of markets eating shit.

That's for damn sure.

/u/treblex

1 points

2 weeks ago

ah yeah yet another "start of the end for DNM" and here we go few years in the future next big markets exit scam and we witness the next "start of the end for DNM" as usual :D

/u/Buddhist

1 points

2 weeks ago

Hey after Evo I was dd purchasing exclusively for many years. I know who I can trust fellas. Let's do dd with trusted vendors again.

/u/chynab

1 points

2 weeks ago

Make dd great again

/u/Tre

1 points

2 weeks ago

I think it was a combination of things outside of their control. They were given vague warnings but did not act. IMO they aren't coming back.

Ive seen many damning post that suggest this. The BTC wallet being emptied being the one of the most damning piece of evidence. Not sure if they pulled the market due to opesc or full out exit scammed but it does not look like they will be returning.

I made a post not too long ago about why markets like this should not be supported.

/u/Buddy1950 Reputable Vendor

1 points

2 weeks ago

Been trading non stop from Dream market, never seen the Markets situation so bad, hoping Abacus hasnt left the scene, time will tell !

/u/Vargor

1 points

2 weeks ago

Donno why but there is always a Great powers in Wrong hands.

/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor

1 points

2 weeks ago

Obviously they're not returning. Is that not blatant? These fuckers and ran off with 7k of my money and completely upended by supply chains and forecasted revenues...

This is precisely why I sent out a mailing list to customers to contact me directly on Session to avoid these scamming cunts running off with our money...

All orders shipped but one.. and I will still ship the order

/u/eklipx

1 points

2 weeks ago*

Sucks, A good rule is keep vendors PGP stored. That way any market change, you are prepared.
I know what vendors work and what vendors it;s not worth it. Also change your PGP every time a new market arrives.
Learn to code, use terminal, and setting up your own private server fully encrypted.
Then set it to become an auto check-in, if you get arrested, your mini server with remove your stored contacts, passwords, private pgp key, etc.

Everyone is bitching and panicking about markets, tons of fake bs is out there.
I listed solid vendors that I trust for this specific reason.
Some have they own private market now.
Here's the vendors that I use.
bbbbb - Carmen SD - SpeedyPharma - simponis - brainblast - bezos - addipapi

/u/robertpaulson P

1 points

2 weeks ago

Yeah but this time its killer because the top 2 markets went down in less than two weeks... all the vendors moving over to abacus got a week of transactions for which they didn't even get to reach the escrow timer so probably lost all their money

/u/eklipx

1 points

2 weeks ago

Shit sucks, I know even after the shutdown these vendors still sent my orders before it was seized a few days later.

/u/chaseymo

1 points

2 weeks ago

Be Cautious Using BRAINBLAST. Ordered from them 11 days ago and received nothing. I will Update/Edit or Delete If They make it right.

/u/eklipx

1 points

2 weeks ago

Bro I havent had a issue with Brainblast. I reached out to him on Dark Matter, to say thank you. I figured posting something positive in the down fall of ArcheTyp plus all the DDoS floods. Maybe your order was seized. Who knows. My order took longer than expected, It was also a multiple orders sent, and one was stuck, stolen, or still in limbo. But Brainblast resent the order when I asked if he had any updates, while the ArcheTyp was shut down.

/u/dreddyforit 🍼

1 points

2 weeks ago

If a buyer encrypted all of their communications, do they have a reason to worry? Obviously if the site owner/seized vendor did something stupid like hold transaction history in plain text, that's a problem. But other than that, if a buyer didn't have any money in a wallet on the site, is there anything to be concerned about when a seizure happens?

/u/snowcrystal

1 points

2 weeks ago

i didnt use abacus so idk if they had a auto encrypt if they did and u used that then your toast if it gets seized but if u encrypt it your self then u got nothing to worry about unless the specif vendor u use gets busted cuz with the vendors keys they can read what u wrote them so if the site gets seized and u encrypted your self nothing to worry about but if u used auto encrypt on the market then your fucked or if the vendor u dealt with gets busted then your also fucked

/u/LD99

1 points

2 weeks ago

As long as you exclusively used PGP + Monero for everything, then you have absolutely no reason to worry.

For those who didn't, use this as a hard lesson for the future about why you shouldn't even TOUCH Bitcoin or any other traceable crypto when doing anything even REMOTELY not legal. 🤷

/u/snowcrystal

1 points

2 weeks ago

they are informing u by not informing u lol use your brain its bin what like 3-4 days and not a word from them lol

/u/pwnd

1 points

2 weeks ago

preeech

/u/yollolollo

1 points

2 weeks ago

Why running away when you are getting loads of new users?

/u/WavyTrain

1 points

2 weeks ago

i signed message would be a bit more convincing. I call Exit scam and he;s stalling until he can get out cleanly.

/u/DoubleUp447

0 points

2 weeks ago

there is no communication so they exit scammed or something very bad happened with the market internally, there is no inbetween.

/u/RXChemist111 📢 P Abacus Vendor

0 points

2 weeks ago

Furthermore, for For God's sake it is essential to begin normalizing FE and recognizing that achieving FE Status requires a significant amount of effort and trust. Buyers should place greater trust in vendors than to market, particularly those vendors with a longstanding reputation and substantial feedback. I have observed discussions among individuals here suggesting that if a vendor is FE Only Then one should cease purchasing from that vendor and begin placing orders with their competitors. Stop FE’ing to Market Admins

/u/kirblagoop

1 points

2 weeks ago

I'm somewhat of a noob around these markets (been 10 years), but I have dabbled in purchasing through FE. Thing is only thing I know about "finalize early" is that products may be cheaper and that there is a risk because your money is not protected and can be stolen if the vendor was shady. My question is what other benefits does a customer have from purchasing through FE and why would a vendor prefer it.

Yes I could probably google it but you seem to have a strong opinion on it and Ive been wanting to know.

/u/Buddhist

2 points

2 weeks ago

I fe'd for a vendor on abacus on Friday night. He told me my pack is on way. Other vendor created label it's not updated. I hate losing but I guess it has to happen. I'm gonna do a review on DankNation once I get it. Vendor is a good one.

/u/RXChemist111 📢 P Abacus Vendor

0 points

2 weeks ago

To begin with, it is important to recognize that obtaining FE Status is not a straightforward process, vendors must possess exceptional feedback and a solid reputation, which significantly increases the likelihood of their legitimacy to 99%. Furthermore, you always have the option to leave negative feedback for a vendor if issues arise. This is particularly crucial for vendors who exclusively deal in FE, as their feedback holds substantial weight, making buyers more vigilant and Getting a negative will impact his sales drastically. When you engage in FE transactions with a vendor, you are assured of receiving your product, even in the event of market exit scams. Lastly, your actions contribute to reducing the risk of exit scams, as a lower amount of money is n escrow which reduces the temptation for administrators to commit exit scam.

/u/kirblagoop

1 points

2 weeks ago

I'm right there with you /u/Buddhist I fe'd with my cocaine supplier (snowbunni) Saturday on abacus. luckily they are damn good people and they got my order locked in even with all this abacus drama going on. So supper shout out to /u/snowbunni really some super clean shit. Ive been around, im a shopper. Plus the communication is 100% on point. Just some good people running a damn good business.

Nothing but love!

/u/Buddhist

2 points

2 weeks ago

My coke guy seems to have not shipped.

/u/BunniSupport

2 points

2 weeks ago

Appreciate you <3

/u/snowbunni P Abacus Vendor

1 points

2 weeks ago

We weren't able to get out all the orders but we're glad we got a few of you in while we could! <3

/u/stayedinvegas1 🍼

0 points

2 weeks ago

Everyone just needs to chill. It will either come back up or not. Nothing we can do about it.

/u/NarcoticsWorldwide Reputable Vendor

0 points

2 weeks ago

https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNCdmMzUXZPR1JrWldNNU5UVTJOREUyWWpnd1pUSXpOVE09#

/u/DaSnake

0 points

2 weeks ago*

Normalizing FE?
Fucking escrow is the only thing left that still gives the poor cumsoomer stooges some sliver of trust and you want to part with it.

/u/WavyTrain

1 points

2 weeks ago

Not neccesarily since it creates a much larger target for an exit scam by the admin. It effectively makes exit scamming an entire market possible. RXChemist is right, Trusted vendors with PGP signatures are less likely to exit scam since they have been realiable for longer than most markets lifespans.

/u/DaSnake

1 points

2 weeks ago*

I am not against it in entirety.
Nobody thinks twice FE for Tribe_Seuss right ?
It just has to really be earned and not so easily obtained on some markets.
Reputable vendors also fare best on their own shops but that complicates life for them with another set of hurdles staying on top of opsec on their own.