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Please take reports against vendors seriously. : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

hi abacus team. there have been a number of reports about Australian based vendors from https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlJHRnlhMjVsZEVGMWMzUnlZV3hwWVE9PQ==# community members, as well as staff from https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlZHVnpkRFJRWVhrPQ==# and myself as a moderator of the Aussie based dread sub.

there has been little to no response on at least 3 vendors that have made serious infractions - doxxing, threats of doxxing, threats of physical harm, supplying incorrect and/or potentially dangerous substances.. the list goes on.

as a market that represents a large portion of aussie DNM traffic i'd like to call upon you to start addressing these issues rather than either ignoring them, or simply passing them over in the name of the profits you gain from vendors - both legitimate, scammers and those that are plain dangerous.

if things continue this way we will be asking the community to avoid abacus where possible and suggesting community and vendors on https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdlJHRnlhMjVsZEVGMWMzUnlZV3hwWVE9PQ==# move to other markets that are on the https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDJRdmMzVndaWEpzYVhOMA==# - ones that take these issues seriously and will protect consumers from these practices.

i'll leave it with you to respond and let the communities posts fill in the details of those vendors on your market that are doing these things - hoping it's simply an oversight.

take care - dl
Hello /u/dontlaugh

Abacus market has been online for mostly 2 years now and it has always been a dedicated market to the Aussie community. All reports that were sent to us through the report section on market has been taken into consideration and for example vendors that were recently arrested as AUSCOKEKING were immediately banned. So Abacus does not ignore everything but It is correct though, that Since Abacus Market is now a much bigger market than when it started, it cannot follow all reports from different sources as /d/test4pay or /d/darknetaustralia as Abacus team used to do before.

That is why I want to introduce myself to the Australian community on Abacus. I will from now on take care of all reports and suggestions of Australian community apart of doing my best moderating this subdread.

/u/dontlaugh This subdread will receive an update in the next 48 hours including sections for reports and much more so there is NO excuses whether Abacus ignores or it does not. I will be expecting your message reporting the mentioned vendors so we can take action on them as fast as possible.

/u/dontlaugh I hope as well to work with you closer in making an Australia community better and safer.
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/u/dontlaugh 📢
2 points
2 years ago
i know of 3 off the top of my head that were SERIOUS issues that weren't even acknowledged.
Perfect, we will take action on them in the following 48 hours.
The vendors should be banned.

It's best for abacus admins to make an example of these vendors so we don't see this type of behaviour in future.
/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
it's more a call to action from the market admins, and that at the very least these vendors should be investigated.
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
1 points
2 years ago
is this something that /u/hugbunter could help with maybe?
/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
not sure anyone but the market staff or admins can change how they interact with the community.

but maybe!
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
1 points
2 years ago
Hugs has said in the past if ppl dont get anywhere with complaints on dread/markets he could speak with the admins....so fingers crossed he can resolve this and protect our community
Agreed market admins are responsible for their market and what happens on it.

I stand for this.
/u/karma
2 points
2 years ago*
This arises, that becomes.

The wise man practices Niṣkāmakarma.

Eat breakfast and then wash your bowl.
/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
or take a shit. each to their own.
/u/LocalStooge
2 points
2 years ago
Devil's Advocate: if not done carefully, this could be a way for competing vendors to destroy opposition.
/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
/u/Australia 🇦🇺 AUSSIE Mod - Abacus
/u/bytemaster ☑ VENDORS Mod - Abacus
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus

any updates? it has been 3+ days now
/u/TestAuthenticator
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
yes that..
also, i wasn't calling for shaming of vendors publicly before the reports have been checked out. that is a FUD festival waiting to happen and not what i was attempting to elicit

appreciate the effort with the post /u/TTTz, but i think it's off the mark, especially considering no one has heard back regarding snownose or commisionerau which should be a BIG priority considering the time it has been ongoing and the issues involved.

safety should be paramount for users of abacus and as it stands, that hasn't been addressed at all.
What is the different between spreading comments and posts like you are doing and having an alert board to have buyers alerted about the issues? ONLY REAL suspicious alert will be posted there, we won't accept any FUD coming from nobody, that post in maintained by Abacus support not by the community.

So if we have put those vendors there is because of YOUR reports that you have previously DONE PUBLICLY

So how can you say you weren't calling for that if it is the same thing you are doing?

This alert board is a good idea because we can alert community something looks wrong, but we are not yet having yet the total security of banning the vendor.

Safety is paramount and so far only yesterday 3 vendors were banned for padding feedback and possible scammers.
/u/dontlaugh 📢
1 points
2 years ago
i didn't name any vendors buddy - so there is that.

i asked for them to be investigated, not publicly sticky posted accusations.

i also only drawing attention to reports made by subscribers to the australian sub mate, i am not accusing or reporting anyone.

i have in the past made a report to an abacus mod who was at that time unable to relay to the market admins.

way to take some feedback mate.
padding feedback is one thing. doxxing and threatening people is completely different and should be investigated and dealt with quicker than has been promised(and time passed already)

to summarise. i in NO WAY ASKED YOU TO PUT UP AN ALERT BOARD AS YOU CAN READ ABOVE.

/post/876188dd3aa6b3c09f3a/#c-152a17033b7ad476df

now stop with the gaslight attempts and please concentrate on the serious issues and investigate them properly. i've heard nothing from any party relevant yet.

/u/steveirwin
/u/testauthenticator
/u/wollygog
anyone been reached out to?
Look first of all, you don't have to ask me to put nothing for me to do something, you are confusing yourself, we are doing this because we have to do it. Nothing related to you. As far as I know you are a moderator like me.

2nd, you are creating this post saying we have to take care of several reports. Then those same users you are calling in your comment above are posting link to those reports and in those reports I can see you commenting

'' also concerning that you are on dread and actually bought from this flog.''

So if I read that from you, is indeed alerting me that the vendor is not good at all and I have to take care of, or what? you are just posting jokes about vendors ?

and in your comments I checked many comments related to vendors doing bad things, so I don't know you are saying you are not naming or anything but you are actually doing it on many other posts and after all, if you are not naming anybody in particular then why are you creating this post in first place?

I have let vito know about this so he can come directly to talk to you because you don't seems to be happy with anything.

And to answer your call to people let me tell you that /u/steveirwin and /u/testauthenticator reached to sonnycorleone and we posted their posts on the alert board for vito to check and take a decision

I don't have idea who is wollywog though but all good. So far snownose is the only vendor we have been reported since we created the alert board

So at the end of the day all of this public posts you are doing are just because snownose?

If not why are we not receiving other reports? where is all the reports that we are ignoring?

please talk
/u/Vito CEO - Abacus Project
1 points
2 years ago
STOP it here. I am taking care of this now, please continue with your other tasks.
Abacus is investigating the vendor snownose and trying to find a correct solution for it.