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Possible selective scamming on fairtrade? : fraudship | Torhoo darknet markets

I had a situation where I sent a large XMR dollar amount on a trade with a vendor. It was auto-finalized and the vendor logged in at the same time, and it said was "withdrawn" already. It is highly unlikely as he never got a chance to enter his wallet address.

We had 2 other minor transactions where it went through, but it was 1/10 the XMR amount.

For full transparency, I had at least 10 other transactions where I had successful transactions and a few disputes that were awarded back to me. These were fine. Most of which were small dollar amounts except for 2 large ones.

This transaction is one of my first larger transaction and something weird happened. The vendor painstakingly documented everything and tried to blame me. I also took screenshots to show my side of the issue.

Our conclusion: potential selective exit scamming? is that possible? Is there a rogue admin in the FairTrade team that is auto-withdrawing from selective large trades?

Looking to see if anyone else had similar situations

/u/xman3312

1 points

1 year ago

I honestly never used the service, but from day 1 on dread I read a lot of nightmare reports from Fairtrade, what I know is that you're not alone, I think fairtrade should be avoided at all cost.
also, I think this is the wrong subdread for this question. I don't think there's a lot to do, but posting on dread and trying to get public responses from fairtrade admins is a starting point.

/u/RiVV1n

1 points

1 year ago

I;ve never actually used FairTrade to carry out a deal, when I first came across I considered using it for trades since I do somewhat trust stuff pushed by Dread, but I wanted to test it still since I for the most part dont trust escrow services. I had a $300 trade I wanted to put through escrow, but before jumping straight to it I tried sending money to myself with it first- even if it worked I'd at least get the benefit of knowing what tools and functionality are available to any sellers trying to scam. I set it up and sent a small amount of money it didn't go through. The money left my wallet as a buyer and never came through as paid/confirmed as a seller on the other side.

Besides that, I figured if it was actually straight-up scamming people I would've seen something come up on this site by now- since then I've only seen people recommending it. I'm really glad I saw your post because that happened a while ago and honestly I've pretty much written it off as a one-off at this point, maybe I fucked the transaction up. It wasnt a large enough amount of money to hint to never send bigger amounts nor was that amount something worth ruining a reputation over,

I still think there's a chance my situation was a one-off or possibly me still. Your post doesnt change the fact that what happened with me was a long time ago as far as darkweb shit goes; the same goes for my comment on reputation too. With that said, I could have absolutely fucked up and you could have absolutely been scammed. My experience doesnt exclude your experience. Something happened and the amount of reasonable explanations are few.

/u/ap9090 📢

1 points

1 year ago

i had some successes and was starting to become quite comfortable and confident with them. 3 disputes which resulted in 2 refunds (1 pending). at least half a dozen to nearly 10 completed transactions. But this larger transaction is a mystery to me. Fairtrade said the other vendor is lying, the but vendor/seller party is saying fairtrade scammed them. Both parties are quite adamant in their positions. Only the seller/vendor party is willing to take screenshots to show it was "withdrawn" almost immediately after it was finalized.

I haven't received any screenshot or other proof from Fairtrade yet other than a comment that the same vendor/seller also made a lot of noise publicly about another transaction where there was a delay in the withdrawal.

I don't know of another proven escrow system and this was going well until this event. And unfortunately, that last transaction was a large 4 figure transaction.

Therefore, there are good motives on both sides to try and steal the money and claim the other party is lying/scamming.

Thanks for your remarks.

/u/FraudoBaggins

1 points

1 year ago

I guess in the end any escrow service is only as trustworthy as their last transaction.

But if you're going to put a big wedge through then you should probably break it up into smaller amounts to minimize the chances that the escrow gets greedy.

It seems kind of dumb for FT to risk damaging its rep and main business for just one transaction but Ive heard of the same thing happening with mixers that have worked nice and smooth for smaller amounts but then get sticky fingers when a big payment comes their way.

Its sad but not shocking in the game we're all in.