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Problem with addiction : TheGoodSpeedGuide | Torhoo darknet markets

hi guys, its almost 2 years since i discovered speed (aka amphetamine sulphate) and it is my favorite stimulant - but thats where the problem begins...

I started using it more regularly year ago, but as my tolerance rised up, side effects started to show up. At first i used it only on party, but then i started to use at home, outside with friends - and thats what i think was big mistake.

My addiction isn't like - i need to get high at all costs, but when i am bored or my mind isn't busy, i think about it (but not about comedowns and side effects)

Also i feel pretty much Anhedonia - its very hard to force myself to go for walk or complete tasks - i just feel lazy, which is - i suppose, from lack of dopamine

I use it nasally, dosing per 30mg (usually 160mg/day max) but on party totally about 300-350mg +-

Do you have any tips, how to reduce my use of speed?
I will be grateful for every tip!
/u/Mechaniker
5 points
5 years ago
Take a break for 2 weeks, you will feel tired and lethargic but as soon as those 2 weeks are over it will be good for you. After that try to limit the use to only weekends
/u/ThePureClub
3 points
5 years ago
"Also i feel pretty much Anhedonia - its very hard to force myself to go for walk or complete tasks - i just feel lazy, which is - i suppose, from lack of dopamine"

i hear that from alot of people that are not taking drugs, maybe its the long winter nights, the sun will give you some energy,
i also dont think that you sound like a drug addict you more sound bored...

much love and respect
TPC
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
Thanks for support, nice to hear it from you :) yeah i am pretty sensitive to that, i tried to catch some sunlight and get free Vitamin D, serotonin from that, and yeah i feel better, talked to few of my friends via cellphone and shit like that.
Yes maybe i am just filling boredom with drugs, so technically maybe i am not addict and i wast just overreacting :D
/u/Balintix
2 points
5 years ago
Try to use less speed. Use 120mg instead of 160, and continuously you can cut back your usage.
Try to have different joys instead of speed, likemgood food, sport, sex.
/u/RUSH
2 points
5 years ago
Firstly you are doing too much speed so your sense of normality is extremely warped and you should keep this in mind. For medical use it's a few tens of milligrams a day, not over a hundred. You should make an effort to use less over time. It's okay if it doesn't happen immediately. If you prefer to cold turkey use less controversial stimulants like caffeine instead on break days.
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
yes, its definitely changes sense of normality, i remember that friend i gave him to test, told me he feels even more sober than before :D
I don't plan to stop with speed completely, i just want to use it only on parties and festivals, and i think i am on good way now. Thanks for tip!
/u/benzedrine SpeedGuide Mod
2 points
5 years ago*
There's a couple of things you could do, like substitute to another drug: for me Modafinil works very well, with this you can get off of months of daily Amphetamine usage with ease. It is not Amphetamine-based, so tapering off of Modafinil is pretty easy. As there's no physical addiction with Amph you can get off of it completely in 2-3 weeks without any side effects. I'd recommend that and a couple of weeks taking a break. I doubt that the quantity you are taking does any damage to the Dopamine receptors, creating a lack of Dopamine. [edit: my guesstimates are only correct-ish for pure gear, if you take stuff like NLK the nasty comedown will remind you that you should have gone to tpc]

I'd say it's the good old psychological dependence that's your problem. I have/had your symptoms as well and even after years of not taking Amph, once I have it all the addiction parts in my brain are having a party, lighting my whole brain up. What I do now is ordering once per month, use it all, with friends, party, reading,... If am out, I don't buy new one until the next month. This works fine for me atm. Let's the brain recover as well. But you cannot reason with addiction, if you have 98.1% of glorious TPC gear right at your fingertips (tpc, i did not forget you, but this year the country is slow handing out money to people buying drugs with it ;D).

You can take "D2" it substitutes sunlight, which is indeed very important especially during the winter months.
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
hello benzedrine, haha well i am using only TPC stuff, i rather pay extra than do low quality drugs, but still i think i do it too much, but you are right with "psychological dependence" addiction parts in my brain are having a party, lighting my whole brain up yeah exactly thats me!
I tried to hang out with friends and catch some sunlight and it definitely helped me a lot, i am pretty sensitive to that, so i experience winter depression every year. Thanks for tips my friend and wish u good time
/u/benzedrine SpeedGuide Mod
2 points
5 years ago
for the psych-addiction I am all with you. This could be me on SR1 or 2.

If you are indoor all the time, then get air, there's a medication too for low D13-Vitamins ('ColeCalciferol' hopefully spoiler free). They regulate what the brain needs what summer has, but missing during winter.
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
thanks for tip, i use Magnesium and Vitamin C a lot. Yeah fresh air makes a miracle, i also recently found girl, she is very nice and straightedge (sober), so i think its good starting point to stop doing drugs regularly, and use them only parties :)

thanks again for caring guys
well first of all,it´s probably a good thing that you yourself is mentioning the word"addiction". The question for some is, when does addiction start and when does it stop. I for one, feel that ,if it starts interfering with everyday life, like you stated using it daily just to get normal chores done, i think it becomes a problem. I don´t have any solution for you, i am a recreational user myself using about 100-150mg once a month...So i have no desire to involve it in my everday life, but like you, it is my favorite stimulant(although i haven´t tried very many.
I hope for you, you find a way to divert your attention away from speed when being bored , and do other things(sports?) that don´t require a substance to aid you.
Maybe you could find some literature online about amph addiction and read on how to overcome it or at least reduce to where it doesn´t interfere or manage your life ;)
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
yeah you are right - addiction starts when it is "interfering with everyday life" but maybe if i can confess that i have problem, i can gather more control over it, than just saying its totally fine and nothing to worry about.
Yeah i tried to get some sunlight and called my friends, its easier to stay away from drugs during quarantine when everything is closed and restricted :D
Thanks for your tips, i am not much into sports, so maybe i could read some book
/u/AppleSauceDNM
1 points
5 years ago
Firstly, I appreciate and respect that youve written so much and are having issues with addiction. Huge respects.

Darn, I personally have no tips on this matter and I'm terribly sorry to hear about you going through the mid stages of addiction, however this is something you really need to get a hold of for your own clarity and life as life is sacred, brother.

My suggestion is to seek help, free help. There must be free clinics where you are at ?


I am almost on dread everyday and if you really need a person to talk to please DM myself your wickr and i'd be happy to chat.
I'm almost always on my phone, you could call that in itself an addiction..

AppleSauce
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
Hi, i feel better now, thanks for caring man! Yes i am computer, phone addict too, my dad is addicted to chocolate, my mother to books, so at the end, everybody is addict :D
/u/[deleted]
1 points
5 years ago*
Hi Hugo, I already went through that, mine was not with speed but with methylphenidate, I was prescribed for hyperactivity and I began to abuse it and snort it, it is normal that you feel very tired, me after a year of taking or abusing of Methylphenidate, I spent about 4 months having a bad time, tired, anxious. I did it very badly because I was not gradually reducing the dose, I stopped taking from one day to another, but you can do it better so you should gradually reducing the dose, always taking it orally, you will also have a bad time, but the fall will be softer. You could change to other stimulant, that also helps sometimes, But maybe it wouldn't be a good idea because you run the risk of getting hooked on something else. Above all, feed yourself well and always keep in mind that tiredness and depression or anxiety will not last forever, the day will come when you will find yourself perfectly aware. Amphetamines are not as harmful as other drugs, I mean in a few months you will be new, you will not have sequels, encourage friend
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
Thanks for sharing experience ! :) Sadly i can't take speed orally, it makes my stomache upset and just feel anxious and my thoughts are racing crazy, don't know why. Yeah i think i will be fine, thanks for motivation and kind words :) stay safe my friend
/u/[deleted]
1 points
5 years ago
i m happpy to see you again my friend. The things are better for you now?, i hope, Greatins
/u/ComradeLenin
1 points
5 years ago
One of the best ways to mediate addiction IMO is to change what situations you put yourself in, as opposed to trying to change how you respond to situations. For example, I know that if I have alcohol, I am going to drink until it's gone. As such, I only buy as much alcohol as I am ok with drinking, rather than telling myself that I'll slow down and buying a handle. So, if you know you're going to use speed all the time if you have it, maybe buy less of it. Or change how you manage your money to make buying it less convenient. Things like that.
/u/MethylDreaming SpeedGuideGuru
1 points
5 years ago
You don't sound like an addict. You sound normal. Don't get hung up on societies so called notion of addict. By their definition, you sleep every night so you must be a sleep addict. Do what makes you happy and doesn't hurt you or anyone else and disregard the bullshit out there. Life is too short to be stressing over such things.

Stay Safe

M
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
hello methyl, well its possible i am overreacting, but still i think its better safe than sorry when we talk about drugs, if i compare to other "addicts" i don't do it everyday, don't use big amounts, have close friends, loving family, pet and shit like that :D. Its more like boredom than addiction for me maybe :D And yes its true, life is short. Stay safe too my friend :)
/u/BleepBlorp
1 points
5 years ago
I've been involved in recovery groups for years and been to rehab multiple times in my life. What I've learned about the difference between an addict and non-addict is how someone reacts when they quit. Some people can't hack it, while others have no problem.

I feel you on the anhedonia, only thing that worked in my experience was time off from using like some people here have said.

There is of course physical dependence, but I don't think that's addiction. People kick all kinds of substances all the time and their brain and bodies heal. Once the neural pathways are there, though, you can never go back to how you were before you started using.
/u/moneyboyderhustla
1 points
5 years ago
just stopping didnt work for me, i stopped for three weeks and my mindset didnt change. dont snort, but take small doses orally is definitely a step in the right direction. do not store drugs in your home, this is very important. switching to other substances is dangerous, but worked for me. i took less and less speed but drank anlcohol instead, like a pack of beer or a bottle of wine a night. alc fucked me up as well but in a different way. sleep deprivation is hell and alcohol would let me sleep. im still very young and getting hooked on alcohol is nearly impossible, at least i read that somewhere. so maybe find something that will give you more rest and affects your brain in a different way (not noradrenalin, dopamine). i stopped the alcohol three months ago and now are fully sober. and another thing, sports rly helped me. its almost 1am where i live rn and ill go jogging now :) u can write me a pm if you need anything, i was in the same place
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
yeah, i think the moderation is they key. Thanks for sharing experience buddy :)
/u/mrhugo 📢
1 points
5 years ago
hi guys, sorry for not responding, but i tried to take break from darkweb, and stuff related to drugs, but wow i really didn't expect so many replies from you!

I feel better now, its 13days since i took speed, but yeah i have no urge to take it now, because during quarantine you have to stay at home, and its nightmare for me to be at home with my family when high.

I try to cope with CBD weed, it helps little,but have to smoke only small amounts, too much THC makes me paranoid.

My mind is now much more clear, it actually helps me a lot if i can talk or write to someone (doesn't matter if its doctor, friend or you guys on Dread :)) ) and it really warms my heart that people here even hidden behind Tor, still cares about other people and try to help them :) !

Thank you all and wish u good health during this pandemic shit !
/u/MethylDreaming SpeedGuideGuru
1 points
5 years ago
The one thing that sticks out is everyone treats their drug use differently. It's interesting to read how some of you guys view and deal with it.

I try to be rational and logical when I think of my use. And what some may seem as lot. Doesn't feel for me.

It's hard to paint an accurate picture at the moment since real speed is almost non existent. So what we are talking about is our perceived use of a (potential substance).

I think 2015 - 2016 was the last time I can honestly say was when you could reliably get decent speed that wasn't a cathinone from multiple vendors.

Now, I've got 6 different batched of questionable substances. Which I'm seriously sending off to Wedinos in the near future. And I'm 99% certain there will be little to no amphetamine in any of them. How do I know that? Because I laid a line of each out and had 30 mins between each one. And the idea was to go back to the one that produced the best feelings. Putting myself in place of the Rat in one of those drug studies.

After I had each of the lines, I can honestly say I didn't want to set up another line of each. There just wasn't the desire to. I wasn't getting enough from any of them to make it worth it.

M