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PSA: Stay the fuck away from 7oh : Opiates | Torhoo darknet markets

I've been using it for about a year just to maintain between orders sometimes. Seemed like a godsend at first due to its legal status. But holy fuck has it turned on me as of late. With all the market issues I havent had any dope for about 3 or 4 weeks. So I've been hitting it heavy becasue my work is just stressful beyond all words (Exec. Chef).

But anyways this shit has all but stopped working. I almost feel like I'm in constant withdrawal. I take a bit and I get 2hrs of reprive at most. And thats it just a little reprive. It never gets me even remotely high...Needless to say IT FUCKIN SUCKS. Stay away guys serious.

Not to mention it has really fucked up my tolerance.

I have a pack landing later this week (hopefully) And jesus do I need it. I just havent felt like my-self in weeks. I never felt this way off regular Kratom. Oh also its fuckin EXPENSIVE. Like serious, 50 bucks a day if I dont get it online. (Which I dont like to do. Because I want to limit the amount of sketchy packages that rattle like pill bottles for obvious reasons. Legal or not)

I wish I could score some dope on the fuckin street. I know its here as I live in a pretty big city. But no one who knows anyone will hook me up.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago*
are you taking just the 7oh or also the pseudoindoxyl? the latter was what really fucked my tolerance all to hell (7oh w/ds are no joke though - how much are you taking?). why are you buying at smoke shops though? the shit is legal, you can get it on clearnet, no one is gonna knock on your door over it, good vendors pack without rattling & don't have sketchy return addresses (i can recommend one if you need, though it sounds like you want away from this shit altogether)
i ran into some issues with skyrocketing tolerance with the 7oh/pseudo combo fortunately SR17018 has worked to get things back under control. you might want to acquire some, either from the chinese or a reseller
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
I take regular 7oh before I hope on subs and tbh it's so easy this way cause i would always throw myself into pwd but i've never take pseudoindoxyl and I just started seeing it pop up everywhere. What is it? Just another kratom compound?
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago
yeah another alkaloid. builds up tolerance freakishly fast. even the site i got mine from warns you to only use it once or twice a week or regular 7oh won't work anymore. of course i didn't listen, bc why NOT stick your finger in that inviting little electric socket, but
why doesn't 7oh + subs cause pwd? is it just bc of the short half life or is it bc it acts on a different set of receptors?
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
From what I read from reddit they say because it's only a partial antagonist but a handful of people are saying if the product contains pseudo you can get thrown into pwd so maybe it has to do with binding infinity instead. I've taken 7oh and then 2 hours later dose my sub and be completely fine with 7ohmz rapid release formula.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago
interesting. yes pseudo works on more the traditional set of opioid receptors while 7oh leaves some of them alone. i guess those are the ones subs work on. wish i understood this in more detail. i always hesitate to ask AI bc i don't want my queries going on their permanent record but guinea pigging this shit is starting to worry me
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
Yea I asked AI about subs and 7oh and it told me to wait 12-24 hours like a traditional short acting opioid but yea if it's just 7oh you should be good with taking subs. I even took some 7oh on top of my sub and it got me high asf
/u/FadedLayer
1 points
3 weeks ago
where do you get SR17018 if you're willing to share?
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago
longflourish is the chinese lab that supplies most of the vendors on the markets - much cheaper to go directly to them. bjc is the other one but they're oos rn
/u/Purplemonkey239
1 points
3 weeks ago
is it really stronger than morphine? people say it's potent but i have a hard time believing it's like an oxy. Haven't tried it but thank you for the warning.
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
So when I run out of heroin I usually take 21mg of 7oh every 4 hours for 3 days before I take suboxone so i dont throw myself into pwd cause I always had a problem with that and it's strong enough to not have me in withdrawal from heroin so yea it's pretty strong
/u/Purplemonkey239
1 points
3 weeks ago
wow! anything that keeps you off h withdrawls is potent. Do subs make 7oh withdrawals bearable?
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
Yea when I got off 7oh with subs I had zero withdrawal. I usually run out of H, dose 7oh for 3-4 days, get on subs then I taper down to 1mg before getting back on heroin. With the current stack I haven't felt true withdrawal in some time now.
/u/Purplemonkey239
1 points
3 weeks ago
I mean it's amazing there's a legal option to fall back on and to be able to go to subs afterwards. Better than methadone. Hope you find success in getting off it though.
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
Thank you, I would say I'm 50% on wanting to stop. But I feel like I've been practicing my exit plan lol
/u/Purplemonkey239
1 points
3 weeks ago
my suggestion for getting off, aside from outside support is maybe regular powdered kratom? tough when 7oh is legal but i'm sure it gets easier the more time passes.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago
it's energetic like an oxy as opposed to sedating like morphine. really i'm surprised the shit is still legal but i guess that's changing. some really irresponsible sites selling pills with like 120mg of 7oh in them which is just silly. oh well, this is why we can't have nice things
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
I've been saying this is gonna be the shit that gets all kratom products banned. I saw they even started selling pure 7oh powder which is crazy
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
3 weeks ago
heh i picked up a bunch of that powder figuring the banhammer was looming. at least the place i get it from sells it with a teeny little scoop so you sort of know how much you're dosing, but yeah, it's irresponsible as fuck. the real retarded shit is pseudo powder. fiendishness in a bag (i resisted the urge to order some, but i can imagine, given how bad just the tabs are)
/u/waxman440
1 points
3 weeks ago
Yea I would avoid the pseudo powder like the fucking black plague after reading OPs experience. He needs to just induce suboxone after waiting at least 12 hours.
/u/miner21 P
1 points
3 weeks ago
I kinda like it. I don't use regularly because it's so expensive
/u/boredomcure 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
It's easier to taper off with the morphine 200mg MST. Painless even. But I think morphine it's also like oxy where you need to take a day or two maybe three days off to avoid dependency but to keep the effects/rush being able to be felt still.



The 7oh is good for sleeping but it will interact with your usual oxy or whatever usage effects will not be felt. That's the issue with 7oh is that it lasts 3 hours and then the elimination of its 6 hours I think and you'll find yourself sicker quicker off of kratom where it just makes more sense to do pregabalin on your days off you'll feel no withdrawals if you take Lyrica or if you're in Canada then you can get robaxin and that'll eliminate majority of withdrawals too.

Anyways kratom just sucks now and it's not even worth doing unless you got your next fix lined up to taper off with because you'll find this 7oh is absurd to not take doses within 24 hours of each other