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Questionable Vendors (mainly from Abacus) : DarkNetAustralia | Torhoo darknet markets

Sup y'all!

Abacus is getting fat for listings that are 'shipped from Australia'
After reading about the bullshit snownose has been pulling, including sending a love letter to a customer ( https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNCdmMzUXZOREV6WlRZMU9EUXdNelF5T0dZeU9XSTFObVE9# ) I thought about compiling this list *mostly based on speculation*
If you see any mistakes or have any suggestions / recommendations please reply.

*Edit. May 30, 8pm - Found 2534 results. This is down from 2700+ yesterday or day before

Potential doxxing/threats
Snownose

Yeah, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:
USDBILLSPLUG1
ausexpresspharma
Vicekings
drugstore
bartley
LUCKY77AUSTRALIA
SchneiderKing
MRAUS

Possibly not sending from withing Aus:
skizoom (Vendor notes sending from O/S)
BabaXpress (Guess: India or Bangladesh)
TheIconicStore (Guess: UK)
Robinsons (Guess: EU)
Gannamare5 (Guess: China)
gotmilk (Guess: China)

Totally 100% legit number of sales on some listings:
AUCONNECT
METHKING

Hmmmmmmm:
AusBay
ozplanb

Padded feedback?
It occurs but my brain too tired looking for it atm

Cheers ya sexy cunts
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yes you have been going for years about this. i apologizes for making threats we didn't need to be attacked at the time.
/u/Australia
0 points
2 years ago
/post/fac54e81ebe42eed03c9 please refer to that post and send information to /u/sonnycorleone
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
2 years ago
48hrs has passed.
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
2 points
2 years ago*
commisionerau

i reported ozbay for posting review responses to negative comments from customers where he put up their tracking numbers on the public reviews.

guy had 3 MAJOR fuckups with swathes of customers with nothing dont. even still had FE before being busted(was anyone surprised)

it was shit like this taht really made me take the time to look at all the reports of vendors and the lack of response from abacus.
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/u/AbacusMarket Abacus Market
0 points
2 years ago
Abacus is not autopilot, instead of commenting that same thing over and over, just test it yourself, ticket are answered within 24 hours. Please just test it yourself and stop commenting the same thing.
XMR was other story and has nothing to do with this.
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
Haha tickets take longer, the first response adjusts to the submit date and time....

Buyer
Sent by Buyer on May 25, 2023 at 07:24

Abacus' Admin
Sent by Administrator Admin on May 25, 2023 at 07:24

Buyer
Sent by Buyer on May 29, 2023 at 00:15
Could only have been answered 5-8 hour prior to this ;)
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/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
They've just added a few names to the mods list, this is the best market Aus has had give them a bit of time to clear out the bullshit <3
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/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
2 points
2 years ago
I am now in comms and able to process new reports and info when needed.
Also thank you for the kind words, I try, I do.

I am and will be busy.
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah fair mate.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease
I'll continue making noise ;)
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago*
Ozbay iirc had average gear across the board and had a second name? What happened to them I was MIA during end of 2021 to Jan this year.

Where should I add commissioner?
/u/nugget of information
1 points
2 years ago
Was it Saint Pablo?
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
Ozlotto
/post/e97cec602dea87367adb/#c-330573082ccd450fea
post by spagettivend link wont work beyond the #
/u/YungAUZ5457
1 points
2 years ago
was gonna say commisionerau seems super sketch
/u/demislim
2 points
2 years ago
Willing to be lucky77 is just reselling product from Inc.
Seems to have a similar profile and listing of products, and even has some listings titled as previous stamps Inc has sold
/u/AbacusMarket Abacus Market
1 points
2 years ago
We are reviewing Snownose case carefully.

Padded feedback suspicious open ticket if you feel like helping the community, just this month we banned 2 vendors this kind
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unfortunately you made lots of threats though dread 2 years ago and have been ever since,
look i apologize for the heated argument that happened 2 years ago.
/u/OzmosisAUS
1 points
2 years ago
Still waiting for a response from Abacus Admin about METHKING scamming me of $3500 off market. Ive got all the screenshots of the telegram communication and the messages actually on the Abacus site of METHKING asking me to go to the telegram page. He flat out scammed me out of $3500 and wont respond to any communication
/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
1 points
2 years ago
The Abacus Market Team respects the privacy of users and do not intercept into users personal messages, if they decide to go to a direct deal we can not do anything to prove it. Markets are to protect users on escrow deals, not to be reading personal messages.

Never accept direct deals outside Abacus Market. You will likely end up losing your money. Report through ticket any vendor asking you to continue the transaction through wickr or any other type of external method. If a vendor who does not have FE rights ask you to FE before receiving your product, report them too, probably they want to scam you. 
/u/bandrubber
1 points
2 years ago
how can they help if you went off market?
Abacus has hit us hard, we are working around it to prove our wrongs and also to prove our reviews are 100% legit without any force on customers .
%60 over 1200 sales for 1 item also leading the way of cocaine sales in Australia that where happy to leave a review which is over the top compared to other vendors
people do trust us with over 10k-100k transactions
please make sure they have made a purchase and are genuine buyers with at least a few thousand spend on the market.
people spend over $10,000 up to $100,000 on orders and are happy
someone who buys 1 gram who is jealous or just have serious hatred towards our name
/u/elpistolero
1 points
2 years ago
Sending a love letter to their customers? Cons brings it to a whole new level. Thanks for exposing those cunts
/u/elpistolero
1 points
2 years ago
Is Abacus a decent market btw?
/u/YungAUZ5457
1 points
2 years ago
yes it is
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
2 years ago
/u/australia

here is a good list and thread for you to look in to and report back to the community on. few more in the comments.
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago*
Modified OP because this is mostly speculation & the buyer should research who they purchase from, keep funds in escrow and dispute if anything goes awry
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
2 years ago
obviously. but if it was less of a mess for the consumer to look through it would be safer for everyone.
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
Are you asking markets to preemptively ban vendors before infraction? (snownose aside obv)

Would be nice if listings were limited to a certain amount per category
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
2 years ago
no - to investigate and take reports seriously

my own, the test4pay team members , and a number of user reports were straight ignored as per my stickied post on the abacus market sub.

the comms full stop has been horrendous, even with the lack of notice when there is downtime. each time it has been due to 'updates', it's all a bit hard to stomach when the downtime is apparently scheduled, as you would expect for updates, but there is no prior warning,

i would like better communication and SERIOUS infractions investigated and taken seriously.

in a perfect world id love the market to be pro-active in making vendors even adhere to their own rules.

i've seen plenty asking for FE when they are escrow only. i've also seen plenty giving outside contacts to deal on.

i'm not here to give a step by step instruction on how to suck eggs and run their market, but they need to take action and pull their socks up.
/u/TTTz 👔 ABACUS SUB MOD
1 points
2 years ago
I will be on top of this DL.
have you tried what we offer? or just go off other dread user's posts?
you dont think we explained enough in our description?
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
unrelated to product... Potential doxxing/threats
/u/billyjoel1
1 points
2 years ago
commissionerAU avoid meth , just got a bag of toxic crap
/u/DRBEAT
1 points
2 years ago
I tried methking 3 times and everything was perfect though not on decent amounts. I will push up and see if he is still same coz quality was great with him.
that's the truth from direct experience.
/u/OzmosisAUS
1 points
2 years ago
METHKING flat out scammed me out of $3500. Asked me to deal with him through Telegram, sent him $3500 and he took the cash and didnt send me anything. Wont respond, Ive got all the Messages on Abacus and Telegram. He sent me a sample so i thought he was legit then flat out got scammed.
/u/bandrubber
1 points
2 years ago
$3500 on the first buy from a new vendor over telegram?
hectic
what was his reasoning for not doing the deal on abacus?

post the message threads so others know what to avoid.
/u/OzmosisAUS
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah mate, absolutely stupid thing to do. He baited me good. Sent me a free sample after i enquired through Abacus. I then put in the order (Through Abacus) then the order wasnt accepted. He then told me to go onto Telegram due to problems with Abacus network outage etc..and was easier and quicker. I have to admit i wasnt entirely comfortable with doing it this way though he seemed to have a decent trust rating on Abacus and i was naive and complacent and just stupidly trusted he would do the right thing. Ive got all the screenshots. I can send them to any one interested in the proof. The guy is an absolute scumbag
/u/stalonkey
1 points
2 years ago
I think its total shit to complain or draw conclusions on vendors you've not tried . I'M a top buyer on Abacus and i use methking and INC and they are the best vendors on Abacus for It takes nothing to try with a small amount before talking shit about a vendor.
/u/gofastyeah 📢 C10H15N
1 points
2 years ago
hahahahahh at the top of the post it says this is based on speculation. Where I have complained or drawn conclusions?

hahahaha top buyer.....? meaning, based on what facts and data? Proof?

Proof like this, just check this out ok, it won't take long. Use you own abacus links...

->ABA LINK GOES HERE<-.onion/listing/6a151717a328c72cf934582a
100g A Grade Cocaine Second to None
Item's rating: No ratings yet.
Sold: 116
Since: Mar 02, 2022

->ABA LINK GOES HERE<-.onion/listing/5e540dffd2ae06330d8dbf2e
100g Premium Crystal Methamphetamine (Ice)
Item's rating: No ratings yet.
Sold: 100
Since: Mar 02, 2022

->ABA LINK GOES HERE<-.onion/listing/d6aeb37a968a0c533c5f9bf2
50g Premium Crystal Methamphetamine (Ice)
Item's rating: No ratings yet.
Sold: 97
Since: Mar 02, 2022

->ABA LINK GOES HERE<-.onion/listing/c6c08cb01b227c9af4a66255
3.5g Premium Crystal Methamphetamine (Ice)
Item's rating: No ratings yet.
Sold: 87
Since: Mar 02, 2022

Current count.
Sales: 800
Reviews: 0

SEEMS LEGIT TO ME MATE, /u/dontlaugh your thoughts?
/u/bandrubber
1 points
2 years ago
yeah no ratings at all......sketchy
/u/OzmosisAUS
-1 points
2 years ago
METHKING has taken $3500 from me and disappeared. Sent me a sample of his coke, asked me to go on telegram (Mrfootpad then godofwar565) then asked me to send him $3500 off market and disappeared and didnt send anything. Have begged him not to scam me and at least send half my order which he agreed to. 7 Days later no answers and no product. Il update if he decides to do the right thing and at least send me something. Very poor way to do business and cant be trusted. Il update my feedback if and when he either refunds my cash or sends me what i have paid for.
i can help you out if you need.
/u/OzmosisAUS
1 points
2 years ago
How can you help me ?
/u/bandrubber
1 points
2 years ago
also curious to hear how you could help him out in this situation
/u/turdbuggz
1 points
2 years ago
Accidentally ordered from skizoom not realising he's from France. Ordered to Australia