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S/R-isomer, a myth? : ketamine | Torhoo darknet markets

Almost all K-vendors in my country (european) advertise R and S isomer separately.
I was in a discussion on another forum a while back where an american was hard on I was getting scammed, that there's NO WAY there's anything other than racemic on the black market, and that ALL ketamin on the black market came from legally produced veterinarian medicine. As in no underground chemist or chemfactory could produce it, and S/R super impossible.

He didn't make any sense to me, and he didn't grasp the very different markets and regulations on EU vs US. But the likes it seemed most believed him.

So how is it really?
Is S/R extremely difficult/expensive to separate?
Is most ketamine on the black market (in europe) from legal medicinal producers?

/u/in_kicker

2 points

3 years ago

Racemic ketamine consists out of R-ketamine and S-ketamine (in a ratio of exactly 50:50). These are hard to separate, but not impossible. The economic benefits of this separation are just not worth the effort - because if you would do so, you would end up with 50% of pure R-ketamine (waste) which no one would ever buy a second time!
As a conclusion every pure S-ketamine has to be minimum double the price as the racemic one, if not its likely a scam.

Every crystalline "pure" S-ketamine I've ever buyed from european DNM was 'scam' because it was just racemic (optical rotation zero, proofed by a very friendly institute in a neighbouring country). On the other hand the only real S-ketamine I've got so far was from grey-market. Very expensive: in the range of good cocaine! If you are experienced with both racemic and S-ketamine you can truly distinguish both, but if you are a noob you will never notice any difference.

/u/kaizokuonii

1 points

3 years ago

Good questions I doubt we'll get the answer to but it's always nice to ask ;)

/u/[deleted]

-3 points

3 years ago

I see you are a very elite brain genius who definitely knows what they're talking about. Would you mind explaining why 3rd world illicit ketamine labs have been getting busted with industrial scale quantities of tartaric acid since the early 2010s then? I eagerly await your totally informed response!

/u/insta5gram 📢

1 points

3 years ago

I have no clue what you are talking about and what point you are trying to make. Perhaps you do not understand the topic at hand and thus your "answer" is incomprehensible.

/u/[deleted]

0 points

3 years ago

Oh, I am the one who does not understand the topic at hand. Amazing. 10/10.

/u/insta5gram 📢

1 points

3 years ago

Interesting, you are basically the same dude I discussed with on the other forum. A school yard teen with a big mouth and a small brain. Maybe too mush ketamine make people a little obnoxious and retarded.
But I'm going for the route that you actually are the exact same person based on your angry little response. So the stand you are taking is that ketamine S/R is a fraud.

Why do are you saying ketamin S/R on the illicit market is a fraud?

"I egury vait ur responss1"

/u/[deleted]

-3 points

3 years ago

Bro when you actually google your own fucking question you are going to feel so stupid LMFAOOOO you are not deserving of a respectful or ELI5 response.