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ngl, i'm pretty reckless at times but i'm also still alive - for me it's just a personal choice - i'm willing to take risks and understand them, but it is definitely always measured risks. I could definitely be more careful up front though, i definitely had a pretty good wakeup/scare when I read about some really nasty "green 4mmc" batch that was going around and smelled like chemicals and made someone legitimately ill or some such thing.

I just like heavy doses, usually off most of the charts for most things. This bit me a little bit with 5APB. I definitely dosed it too heavy the first time, and probably the second time too. The comedown from that is pretty rough for me, personally.

The reality is for a lot of these newer things, really nobody knows long-term what harm we might be causing because there hasn't even been enough time for things to go wrong for people, but I'm here for a good time not a long time :). I encourage harm reduction of course, but at the end of the day it's other peoples lives and if they wanna live reckless who am i to tell them otherwise.

Definitely worth considering how confident you are the substance even is what you think it is. Lots of people selling 3MMC as 4MMC etc.

as someone who has done GHB, it is a very unique substance. often called "iquid ecstasy" - its like a mix of alcohol, benzos, a smidge of MDMA,, and that's the best way I can decribe it. maybe with 1% ketamine feeling too. GBL is stronger per mL usually, because GHB is made into liquid from its solid form, usually at 1 gram per 1mL. GBL and GHB are almost indistinguishable from each other in terms of feeling as it converts rapidly once ingested. GBL has a taaaaad bit more of a chemical taste but for the most part they both taste like salty thick water. BDO tastes like straight up "chemical" and it also freezes at low room temperatures, which GBL and GHB do not.

also yes, GBL can be converted to GHB incredibly easily, it takes like one or two easy to get non-controlled chemicals and like a few hours, maybe less. literally anyone can do it. as for is it worth it? for the prices I've seen recently, sure. I know of a UK source with GBL with a Liter (1,000mL) for maybe around $550, 3 Liters for about $1,250 or so, which is a great deal if you're a reseller, or if you want a supply for a long time. A lot of body builders take GHB. I can't remember why exactly. But yeah a liter of GBL is on average like ya know around 400-600 doses, GHB would be more like 350-500 doses if they are 1g/1mL, which GHB almost always is when made into liquid from powder, or if converted from GBL.

But anyway, an average dose of these are very WEIGHT-DEPENDENT. The more you weigh, the more it takes to get the same effects... BUT ALWAYS START SMALL --- you can ALWAYS take MORE but NEVER take LESS.

An average dose of GBL is 1.0-2.5mL, and you should never take more than 4.5-5mL at once OR within a 3-4 hour window or it can lead to death.

GHB, if dosed at 1gram/1mL, average dose is more like 1.5-3mL. Never take more than 6-7mL at once or within a 3-4 hour window or it will almost certainly lead to mix GBL or GHB with ANY substances, especially downers. You will be playing a very very dangerous game. They are not very harmful/toxic despite being deadly at those doses though, and if done responsibly and in moderation they are actually realtively safe substances

as for converting 1,4 (BDO) to GHB or GBL, I think it would take some serious chemical knowledge or people would be converting it left and right because people are starting to not buy that crap anymore now they've realized how harmful it is. You'll know it's not GBL or GHB by it's taste. it will tast like straight chemical. Totally unlike GBL or GHB.

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Yeah idk why I ordered it tbh but I took it straight up. Im not sure if you can even convert it. Ik you can convert gbl to ghb but idk about 1,4 conversions