should I use a PO box? : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets Torhoo!

2 points

1 year ago

Some vendors won't ship to a USPS box. You can get a private box and write in an address like a real address. Some say avoid PO boxes, but if you want to have some distance between you and the order and if you don't want vedors to know the home address a PO box could work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

/u/Varixmar

1 points

1 year ago

PO box's aren't inherently bad but they have alot of risks that i've posted in other comments thats why a drop address is the best option, on rotation.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

I agree, finding a drop is the hard part. Drop is best of both worlds. If something were to happen it would probably be better to get busted at the post office rather than the house.

/u/Varixmar

1 points

11 months ago

not true at all.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

Not true that it's difficult to find a drop?

/u/Varixmar

1 points

11 months ago

its way better to be busted at a drop then the post office with the amount of CCTV and the ability to track that footage if you need to use ID and its a fake that is even way worse.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

I agree. The way I see it,

Using drop
Advantage harder to trace back. best overall option
Disadvantage more difficult to plausibly deny picking up a package.

PO box vs personal address
Worse case scenario, I would rather have CD happen at a PO box rather than my personal address. Police searching a house/arresting everyone inside sounds worse than an arrest at the PO box location. Of course all of this assumes personal amounts and not some part of a seller operation.

Don't have any personal experience, just my opinion.

/u/Varixmar

1 points

11 months ago*

I disagree, using a properly setup drop for no more than 1-5 times gives you like a million times more plausible deniability then you being at a PO box registered in your name or with a fake ID. A drop is not meant to be an address you or anyone else lives in, possibly even completely vacant or under construction. buildings that a looking for leases you can call and see when they do showings and specifically setup your mail to the days no one is there. also making sure there is no cameras is a plus. You can do this with businesses aswell DM for more info if interested.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

Yes, I was talking about if they catch you at the drop. Harder to have a reason to be there picking up a package if you have no known ties to the location. I agree though that it is the best option overall in terms of safety.

/u/Varixmar

1 points

11 months ago

no its not, you can say someone offered you 50$ to go pick up a package and you thought nothing about it. "he was a business man looking type so i didn't think there was anything illegal going on" and so many more excuses you can tell the police. i think you are misunderstanding me

/u/Purplemonkey239

2 points

11 months ago

Yes, maybe I am but I see what you mean. Appreciate the input.

/u/SoloDoloMoney

2 points

1 year ago

You can use PO boxes.
if your opsec is good.
you're way safer using a drop address tho btw js.

/u/Varixmar

1 points

1 year ago

setting up a proper rotation of drop addresses is the best option.

/u/partytime

1 points

1 year ago*

Well, mate, that's a good question. However, I'll start by asking you a question - What is your threat model? Are you a casual buyer of personal amounts of products, a DNM admin or moderator, a fraud baby, or perhaps a reseller of products you buy from a DNM? All of those have different levels of threat model, and what might work for one could well be too little for another.

Now, don't be too specific, as you could unintentionally breach your opsec or doxx yourself somewhat. Just a generic description of what you intend to do at this point, and as much into the future as you can foresee.

/u/See-me-8075 📢

1 points

1 year ago

Personal amounts

/u/partytime

1 points

1 year ago

If you're buying personal amounts, mate, the simplest way to go is to use your real name and address for delivery. The worst that could happen that way is a CD, and you will remember to decline to sign for any package that comes your way. Simply say you didn't order anything and won't sign for a package you don't know anything about.

Most likely the worst would be a love letter telling you your product was seized, and you're a bad boy so don't do that again. In such a case you would have burned your address, and won't be able to order to that address from the DN again. Same would apply for a PO Box if a package is seized.

As a personal amount buyer, you have a pretty low threat model.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

For perosnal buyers, would they still search the house if they didn't have any other evidence and if you declined to sign for the package?

/u/partytime

1 points

11 months ago

The answer to your question depends on the laws of your country and locality.

As an example, in USA without a warrant or sufficient probable cause you are allowed to deny LE access to your home or business. Signing for a package LE knows contains drugs is probable cause, so you decline to sign and they have no probable cause to search your house. They won't be happy, still you'll be within your rights as a citizen to deny them entry on a whim. Do keep paraphernalia and drugs out of sight of windows and doors, though, if you live in USA.

Most civilized countries have similar protectionis from unwarranted searches, as I understand. Still, check the laws of your country and locality to be certain. The more you know, the better you can defend your rights.

/u/Purplemonkey239

1 points

11 months ago

Makes sense. Always exercise the rights! Especially the 1st and 4th amendment.

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0 points

1 year ago

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/u/See-me-8075 📢

1 points

1 year ago

Asking a question about a Private mail box? It isn't fraud

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1 year ago

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/u/Varixmar

1 points

1 year ago*

its best to get the highest quality fake ID and open a PO box in that name. make sure you can setup the PO box fairly safely. not alot of CCTVs, traffic etc, wear a hat. maybe a pair of a sunglasses but up to you might make them suspicious of you, if wearing masks are popular still you can do that and just lower to mask the verify the ID and move from there. As i responded to another person drop addresses is the best option because of all the problems with certain PO box locations.

/u/Dream333

1 points

11 months ago

Very interesting post because I was planning to rent a PO box. Thank you

/u/bettertobe

1 points

11 months ago

only reason to use a po box is if you have live with your parents who are nosy and open your mail or have a big problem with porch pirates. If neither of those things are an issue for you then its better to just get it to your front door. having your drugs sitting in a government facility possibly stinking the place up for longer than necessary probably isnt the best idea.