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Signs The Mods Have Given Us That This Is Not Exit Scam : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

1. Vendor's links worked longer than public links and allowed for users and vendors both to withdrawl in the moments leading up to links going down.
If this was an exit scam, the links would stay live and just not allow for withdrawl. This would allow newbies and stupid people to still deposit more $$ to maximize their exit scam.

2. The "Status" color changing to orange.
This, albeat it a very small form of comminication is still communication none the less. I like their take on not wasting time arguing or creating dialogue with anyone, because people would only disect their responses too much and spread FUD regardless

3. This is NOT a seizure, because world governments are very fast to put their little emblems all over any of the old links like they did with Dream, Empire, Cannahome, Archtyp, etc.

4. YALL HAVENT WAITED EVEN A FULL 12 HOURS from the last confirmed withdrawl of currency from the site before yammering about EXIT SCAM or IS THIS THE END propaganda.


ALL HAIL ABACUS, I can't wait for you to return and quiet the naysayers

**Thanks to those of you who bickered with me and only made this post more popular to spread the HOPE for Abacus to return instead of FUD**
/u/DojaDesperado P
3 points
2 weeks ago
1. An observation, not a sign from mods

2. An observation, not a sign from mods

3. An opinion, not a sign from mods

4. A statement, not a sign from mods

Just to be clear, this post contains zero 'signs the mods have given us'.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
the mods themselves allowed there to be withdrawls from the site. the mods themselves changed the color of their status. dont be such a nitpick. use your brain please
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
mmmmmmkay. Whether you are confusing market admin and forum moderator roles might be a moot point here.

Nothing you've posted should be interpreted as signs from anyone that anything is or is not happening.

It's your opinion albeit not a very logical one.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
so youre saying spreading FUD is more logical than this post. Alright bud, go on, continue to stir the pot while people tweak out over server maintenance
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
Did I say that literally anywhere?
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
why don't you stfu and stop being a dick then
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
You posted in a public forum. If your post isn't logical and factual, brace yourself for a little pushback. It's not personal, I just think you're wrong and misrepresenting your observations and opinions as 'signs the mods have given us' that things are one way or the other and I simply disagree.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
these are factual findings, and it also follows a train of logic that is AS REASONABLE if not MORE REASONABLE than this being an exit scam.

"i just think youre wrong"
fuck outta here
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
Now I'm thinking you're just illiterate and that's the real issue here.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
the real issue is that youre an asshole who has too much time on his hands while im pointing things out to give hope to people, while youre what.... talking shit?
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
The real issue is that you want to post without anyone challenging your opinion and think anyone that does challenge you is just being an asshole. You're probably too insecure to be posting in public forums and I don't think you even spent a half second considering what I actually said.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
bro, ive responded to everything youve said, if i didnt want my opinon challeneged i wouldve ignored you. its ppl like you that are the reason the mods arent posting updates for people, becuase its mfs like you thatll argue with anyone that would be wasting their time
/u/MrBacon420 P
1 points
2 weeks ago
Another one who's got it all figured out.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
i dont got it all figured out, im offering a more hopeful speculation rather than fear mongering and spreading FUD
/u/DojaDesperado P
0 points
2 weeks ago
I should really avoid these temptations, /u/MrBacon420, but sometimes I just can't help myself....
/u/MrBacon420 P
2 points
2 weeks ago
I know, right?
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
your ego is much too large mate
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
So now I am at fault and the reason site admin have not updated you on the status of the market?

You're a real Stretch Armstrong here.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
im just honest, think about it. why even bother communicating with us if this is how we talk to each other, seriously
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
Why bother posting in a discussion forum if you become offended when I try to have a discussion with you?

This is your thread, amigo, not mine.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
im not offended, im responding to you trying to undermine my attempt at spreading hope with reasonable thought pattern.
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
People who aren't offended don't call someone who is trying to have a civil discussion an asshole for simply disagreeing. You've said a few things that makes it apparent you're offended and still you haven't really addressed anything I've said.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
ive replied to every single comment, what have i not addressed your oh high and mighty lord of Dread.

you came here in a condescending tone from your first comment, so I called the kettle black you dickhead
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
I was not condescending. I listed my responses to your 4 supposed 'signs'. And your very first reply accused me of nitpicking and lacking a brain.

You're insecure and cannot support your post with cogent dialog so you reply with hostility and ad hominem.

When you can't win the argument, attack the man.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
you still havent produced your point that I somehow didnt respond to, so what is it? What point did you make that was so profound that you needed me to respond to? nothing you're just telling me im making a pointless post when im trying to spread hope and youre attempting to discredit that for some reason, for that its fuck you, move along now


also the fact that you think this is an argument is funny when theres nothing to argue, youre just continuing to waste your time responding to me and making my post spreading hope more popular
/u/DojaDesperado P
0 points
2 weeks ago
Ok, we can take it from the top. Here is my original reply.

1. An observation, not a sign from mods

2. An observation, not a sign from mods

3. An opinion, not a sign from mods

4. A statement, not a sign from mods

Just to be clear, this post contains zero 'signs the mods have given us'.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
an observation of the things mods have done on purpose to give us hope, yes, you dimwit. can you not scroll up instead of copy pasting, dum dum dum dum DUMB
/u/DojaDesperado P
0 points
2 weeks ago
First of all, mods are moderators. They keep people in line on forums like Dread. The people who run these markets are administrators of the markets. Not mods. Similar to Paris, Solar, and Hugbunter on Dread. Admin, not mods.

So I believe you've been misspeaking from the beginning.

Secondly, none of the things you've listed were intentionally done to give us fucking hope. Why would they have not posted a simple message on their subdread and stickied at the top that reads, "X,Y, Z Don't Panic, STAY HOPEFUL This is what is going on." They're a literal business. You don't send secret cryptic signs to people when you run a business. You put a fucking sign in the front window (the subdread) and let people know what is going on. You don't do retarded shit that needs interpreting. Are you a Q follower? Is that where this is coming from? Trust the plan? The speck of dirt on the President's lapel at lunch on the second tuesday of the 6th month means the tunnel operation was a success but if your Mickey Mouse watch is pointing North it means the operation is still ongoing.

I'm not even addressing the other points because you're decimated.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
alright mr. nitpick fine tooth comb ass mf.

AGAIN,

MY POINT IS TO SPREAD HOPE, PERIOD.

Please take your political ideology elsewhere, we can clearly tell you woke up on the wrong side of the bed if you think anything youve typed into your computer has "decimated" me or my post.

Kindly, fuck off
/u/DojaDesperado P
0 points
2 weeks ago
Ad hominem. When you can't win the argument, attack the man. Attack his character. Attack how he speaks instead of what he says.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
that is literally what youve been doing to me, coming at the verbiage i use versus the point of my post.

youre not above anybody, let alone the scum beneath your feet. go take a shower
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
That's not correct whatsoever. Still you just insult. Regardless, Vito dropped a message an hour ago. He finally put a real sign in the window of his shop because the secret 'signs' were clearly not working.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
you tried coming at my knowledge if the difference between admin and mod, youve nitpicked everything i said, and youre still sitting on your high and mighty hill oh lord of dread
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
old news, i read about this on reddit before i even signed back in here, this guy isnt even relevant in the admin circle to know any of the movements of abacus, the last time this happend it lasted a week.
/u/Tre
1 points
2 weeks ago
I speculate /u/TTz was the one that changed the color of the status. He is just a sub mod on dread.

There have been zero comms from the team. Yet there has been too many "coincidences" to over look.

Anyone thats been around long enough knows the writing is on the wall. I expect an announcement within the next 24 hours.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
people will say that its sus that the admins and mods of abacus arent speaking up about this, but if /u/TTz did that to change their status, why would they not have made a post with the same regards, updating the community with all the facts of the matter? BECAUSE ITS A WASTE OF TIME, when there are so many naysayers online, who are going to naysay regardless
/u/insert_username 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
"trust me bro"
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
2 weeks ago
lol. Totally.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
instead of spreading mass panic, i took the other stance and I'm stupid for it in your eyes
/u/nckrlol11 🍼
2 points
2 weeks ago
i hope this isnt just cope and they really come back. imy abacus
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
0 points
2 weeks ago
hardly just cope, i have maybe $35 in the site, nothing major, I have had thousands of dollars of successful transactions over the last 2 weeks here in Abacus, this wouldn't have happened if they were exit scamming. You'd be seeing vendors not updating nicely here on dread, theyd all be pissed talking about the money they're about to lose.
/u/nckrlol11 🍼
2 points
2 weeks ago
i've spoken to one vendor, he said thats he believes it may be an exit scam, due to the lack of communication from admins. i've done some research, and about 8 months ago this exact situation had happened, with little to no communication from admins, people suspecting exit scam/seizure. i hope it's just a repeat of that.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
the fact that this exact situation has happened with this site before is even more evidence that everything is ok
/u/nckrlol11 🍼
2 points
2 weeks ago
i really hope that it is, i just spent the rest of my money on a re-up like last night or earlier yesterday. if no abacus i have no money, thats the main reason im stressing so bad :(
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
i get you, and im waiting on placing a rather large order myself hoping XMR doesnt fluctuate too much while I wait
/u/nckrlol11 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
im glad theres other people in my situation. i guess we'll just have to wait for the morning. you have a good one, man!
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
you as well amigo
/u/casketpimpin
1 points
2 weeks ago
me too brother. i lost a fuckton on my arch wallet (not a vendor) then put a lot into my abacus wallet so i can re up . wasnt expecting shit to get weird this quick. i dont make bank so i hate the thought of losing money i couldve spent on finer shit
/u/nckrlol11 🍼
2 points
2 weeks ago
as a non-archetyp refugee who was thinking of moving to archetyp just days before the seizure, i understand the scare that you're feeling, the only thing you can do is hope nothing comes of this. /post/a18e1328420deb0008ec - this same situation happened 3 years ago, aswell as 8 months ago. just have high hopes and pray what Vito said in that post is true.
/u/casketpimpin
1 points
2 weeks ago
yea i rmbr a couple weeks or months before arch went down there was a lot of maintenance issues so i pray its just that, seems pretty common but def shitty timing lol. thank you for the postlink and reassurance my friend
/u/buscamkarate 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
Yeh, but was that just after another big mkt was seized? It's hard but I reckon they've shit themselves and scarpered.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
nah fam, they out here putting in the work to come back online
/u/CB2019 Reputable Vendor
1 points
2 weeks ago
they been around for a while..wouldnt be surprised if they closed shop soon. Big markets normally last 3-4 years.
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
i'd be super surprised of they come back. there's way to much evidence pointing to a exit scam.

i have no way to verify this but read this post and then the comment /post/9c3d399df6b112c8e702/#c-e615ebc3b209ff0091

if that's true, there's no way its not an exit scam. i've also been using DNM's for about 10 years so i've been through plenty of exit scams and seizures, and from my experience, when tons people start having withdraw issues on and then the site disconnects, its over. there's no reason for them to disconnect the site.

if it does "come back" i would be very very surprised.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
this post your referring to is talking about a wallet address that has less than 300,000 in it, which is most likely a vendor, not an exit scam. why would the mods of the market not let people deposit still if it was an exit scam. That is how exit scams have run in the past.
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
the comment though, he said he deposited and its went to that address....

anyways we all have our on opinions, mine is that its an exit scam. why else would they pull the site offline?

you sold like one of the people who "knew" Archetyp was coming back
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
he said that he spent, entirely too much, time following a chain of it being sent to multiple places and ended up eventually in a wallet with the address that has less than 300,000 in it. that proves nothing but that eventually it ended up in that wallet. the money in that wallet is not enough to be scam worthy on this level.
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
still, their was enough people on dread having withdraw issues for it to be a problem. they said it was only BTC related, but people said they also weren't getting there Monero withdraws/deposits either.

then a mod said "it takes 24 hours for a deposit to confirm" i've NEVER had a deposit or withdraw take that long.

plus the site isnt even just down, its offline now. so they cant claim DDoS.

plus they're deleting peoples post on this subdread pointing out those issues. you must be new to DNM's man, cause the signs of a exit scam are obvious.

i cant say FOR SURE its an exit scam, but with my experience and all those facts, that's the conclusion i arrive at. if it does come back great, i never want a market to exit scam.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
the withdrawl issues were happening at least 24 hours before links were having issues, too many people spamming their small server base due to fear mongering about the deposit issue they were having over the past fews days. in them trying to fix that issue, more stuff started breaking and now we are here. they took down the site as other markets have in the past to stop the claims about this or that happening. imo they are doing the best the can by just not saying anything. the more resources they spend on answering everyone here the less time they are spending on actually fixing the issue
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago*
yeah exactly, first they stop the withdraws, then shut off the links, that's literally how every single market has exit scammed..

also that doesn’t really add up. Sites like this don’t just randomly go completely offline because of server strain or a fix gone wrong, especially after prolonged withdrawal problems. If their infrastructure was truly overwhelmed, you’d expect partial outages or degraded service, not a total shutdown across all mirrors.

Also, any professional market admin would keep a fallback comms channel or even a simple status page running if it was a legit technical failure. Pulling the entire site, after days of withdrawal delays, is classic exit behavior, it cuts off user claims and stalls while they disappear with the funds.

a legitimate bug or server overload wouldn’t justify fully pulling all links for this long. That’s usually damage control for an exit, not “the best they can do.”
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
the mirrors were partially accessible for awhile today until around 3 PM EST. you just had to be lucky and use private links and even then you had to load several times before it worked.

these are professional admin, as they make money professionally, but i honestly assume they are just not wasting resources on having people responding on forums, rather spend all resources and time on just fixing the issue as fast as possible.

long story short, i spend my time waiting hopefully rather than spreading anxiety and FUD, jus trying to point out the things that point to this being something that has happened without communication by this market in the past and now its happening again, and theyll be back as they have been before
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago*
i know that but now there offline completely. and its now 2AM EST exactly and there still offline. and i'm not spreading FUD, i'm replying to your post.

i said i don't know for certain if its a an exit scam. and hope it comes back. i said that's my opinion that it is, and gave the facts as to why., how's that FUD?

but okay i guess we'll see, there's nothing we know for sure. you cant say for sure they will be back, you don't know.
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
wow looking at this now is hilarious lol.
/u/sus123321 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
i didnt follow "way too much" i deposited to my deposit address and it went from my deposit address to that address, thats 2 stops and i didnt interact with a vendor either
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
you spent entirely too much time following "your coins" when that's not always the way the blockchain works.
/u/sus123321 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
it was 2 clicks i dont know how you came to that conclusion
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
yeh ok, and I learned binary in my sleep
/u/Speedy_Pharma Abacus Vendor
1 points
2 weeks ago
who knows? same thing happened on abacus in 2022, the market admins are not known for responding until issues are solved

/post/a18e1328420deb0008ec

they aren't known for giving updates unless that update is that it's fixed, but we will see
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
yeah but they gave updates back then
/u/TrapSandwich
1 points
2 weeks ago
Need some Copium?

I'm a crypto investor who thought $Btc was too rich for my blood.

I have plenty of Copium to go around for everyone.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
No Copium needed, I practice patience
/u/jamiesshop 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
Very true, i remember worldmarkets exit scam, they still had their site up and running so people that wern't informed would still deposit funds
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
exactly, everyone is safe. long live abacus
/u/jake0126
0 points
2 weeks ago
empire market also exited in 2 days (if this is an exit that's the same time frame), you never know whats happening behind the scenes, those markets that leave the site up weeks so they can deposit funds are planned exits, this could be a panic exit. something might of happened internally that spooked them. there's 1 million reasons why they could just suddenly exit.

i do hope it comes back though.
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
yesterday was deposit issues, not the beginning of an exit scam, its still been less than 12 hours since links went down completely.
/u/jake0126
1 points
2 weeks ago
but you dont know that though lmfao...

are you the admin? that would of been the start if it is a exit scam lol.

like i said, well see.
/u/averagenobody P
1 points
2 weeks ago
Has anyone not noticed that not one single Mod has chimed in
and said anything what so ever on any post????
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
i dont blame them, i personally feel like it would be nice to have that, but I get why they aren't wasting time defending themselves if they aren't doing anything wrong, but trying to get the site back online
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
AND THEY HAVE MADE A POST NOW, FUCK YALL NAYSAYERS, NITPICKERS, AND FUD SPREADING ASSHOLES
/u/buscamkarate 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
Take it easy bro, everyone wanted em back, but we can't all be so optimistic...I haven't had a smoke for ages due to various asshole vendors, so my trust has taken a bit of a dent lately. But it's good theyve not scammed cos now the vendor can take my coins and still not send hurrah...
/u/gustavahr2121 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
no, because since ive made this post people have been nitpicking every word ive wrote on this thread, so nah, fuck people who just spread negativity when the point of this post was to help spread hope and talk about why it is clearly not an exit scam.
/u/sus123321 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
any update? you was promising everyone to listen to what you so wisely had to share..