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So is practically everyone just selling analogs now? Anyone in Europe who sells real ketamine and operates with integrity and honor? : ketamine | Torhoo darknet markets

So far, in my search for ketamine, I have encountered pretty much exclusively vendors whose IQs are likely in the double digits. Vendors who do not know the distinction between R-ketamine and racemic ketamine, vendors who have not done a basic reagent test on their product, etc. Of course the classic misrepresentation of products as S-ketamine when it's not even a racemic mixture of ketamine but rather an analog. It seems there is a mix of scammers who are knowingly selling DCK and 2-FDCK and vendors who have 0 clue about testing and all just say "trust me bro", have me get their product, reagent test it, and see it's yet again not ketamine.

Does anyone here know of anyone selling ketamine who doesn't seem like a moron or scammer, operates with integrity, sends every batch to the lab, and communicates clearly?

I would much prefer Netherlands domestic shipping if I can find it, but at this point I'm probably willing to risk other European countries if I find someone who seems credible. Apologies if my tone is a bit harsh, but I'm getting pretty tired of the nonsense.
/u/trostersboxmouse
3 points
1 month ago
would you mind listing what vendors you've tested?
/u/pedro30
1 points
1 month ago
all ketamine sold on darkweb shops are analogues like DCK and 2-FDCK.
do not trust ketamine vendors
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
1 month ago
I would expect there to be a few exceptions, but it's a real journey trying to find them.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
another fake baby bottle account created by op to spread FUD.
Yeah the FUD with ketamine is crazy rn. Our ketamine is REAL. How do I know? Because we test every single kilo with reagent testing and even lab testing. Yet people are just dumb and come up with the craziest theories. Are you guys sure you’re using the reagent tests right? Lmao
/u/Disneyw0rld Drughub Vendor
0 points
1 month ago
Hi there,

True.. many vendors are not testing all the products.. ofcourse not all of them.
Me personally as a vendor testing all the products before listing it. (test results available)
Not only with ketamine, also with other kind of goods, vendors are advertising colombian flake coke as 'peruvian'
Dont be a chef if you don't know anything about cooking.

we requested for a vendor flair, think will get it this upcoming days but my name is the same as in the rest of the shops (i cant advertise here since i ain't got a vendor flair yet but you will find me, 1+1=2 ) where you can take a look and im giving also samples away so feel free to give it a try for the real stuff, and not getting scammed by vendors who are selling sugar instead of ketamine.

Stay safe, and much love <<3.
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
1 month ago
Since you are such a new vendor seemingly, with presumably very few orders, based on our communication on Ab you must know who I am. I have yet to receive and test yours. I will vouch for you if your ketamine comes back as real.
/u/jethro23 MOD
1 points
1 month ago
I do not see a vendor flair request in mod mail. Please fill out the template and message the mods
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
check the whole post and you'll notice the guy creating fake accounts to support his own FUD. Also, you might notice him creating same kind of post under different nicknames with new baby bottle accounts supporting it.
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
3 weeks ago
/u/TopDogShop
I have only one account here, and have only had one account here ever. I do not know the technicalities involved well enough to know whether any mod could verify I only have one account here. I already know you wouldn't trust my word on it, and I assume the mods can't verify. Think whatever you want I guess. I never made it a point to single you out specifically except when you entered my threads. When you did that, I mentioned that some of the claims from your listings are virtually guaranteed to be false. I haven't even made it a point to publicly list any of the vendors who sold me RCs as ketamine, because I want to stay out of trouble, and they generally gave me refunds when I mentioned they didn't pass reagent testing. I'm just someone trying to get a small amount of ketamine for my personal use, so small than 1-2 grams would be my lifetime supply. In my search for this, I found that the ketamine market is heavily polluted with RC dissociates now. Once I realized this, I started inviting discussion on it, and asking people if they could refer me to any credible vendors. Since then, I've seen more discussion from others regarding the RC dissociative substition, and yes, they're often fairly new accounts. It seems that a lot of the longer-time users were just a bit checked out from how much of an issue this has become. I don't recall if you can browse this forum without having an account, so maybe some people are just making accounts because they have also seen this and want to be part of the discussion on it? I'm frankly not sure. I'm overall pleased to see the issue being brought up more though.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
You would help community if you could name the list you r accusing to sell fake ket. "To stay out of trouble" - is a stupid excuse.
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
3 weeks ago*
I can be open to informing some people by DM once I trust their intentions. But no, I'm not intending to make threads about those people. I don't think I've even accused you specifically of selling fake ketamine after you already needlessly inserted yourself into my discussion threads either, I simply do not believe you are selling S-enantiomer ketamine at the claimed purity. Maybe you do sell real ketamine though, and maybe there is a slim chance that even the enantiomer and puritity of the listing are correct. Your communication style however doesn't inspire my trust. I didn't make it a point to go after you, you made it a point to spam my discussion threads. You carry a lot of red flags of a vendor not being legit, and communicate in an unpleasant and accusatory manner, so yeah, I'm happy to not bother testing your stuff. Maybe just stay away from my threads if you can, if you see anyone making threads specifically pointing in your direction, that's not me.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
No one ever pointed at us, but seeing someone raising red flags every day with no reason and specifically with no evidence...Yeap, we jumped in to offer to test our product - your reaction was the one to get our attitude. If you would check all the reviews and feedbacks we got from customers - everyones happy with quality/communication/stealth. We dont tolerate people who is bringing fud to the whole market. Name at least one red flag you noticed about us and support it with at least some evidence. Otherwise its one more FUD comming from you.
/u/BullishOnPowder 🍼
1 points
3 weeks ago
lol wtf I've been lurking on Dread for almost a year but only just now started using it properly and made an account. Only got curious about Ket after some friends mentioned ket helping with depression but I was super skeptical at first
And i only came here to check out some reviews on nasal sprays from u/KetamineSpray but then stumbled across a post also from them saying there's no way any of you is selling pure S-Isomer it's all racemic at best, and then over the last few days i keep seeing posts hinting that a lot of you are actually pushing analogues the way some of you responded all defensive and weird kind of just confirmed that for me lol
some of those people even send here pics of their own Morris reagent testing so it solidifed this even more.
/u/[deleted]
0 points
1 month ago
I feel you because I’ve spent the last 12 hours trying to make my first purchase, and I’m honestly not sure if there
are any reliable K vendors in Europe.
Everywhere I look, people are saying the supposed “top” vendors on Abacus are either outright
scams or faking their reviews. Most seem to be selling analogues or cut stuff, and the few listed here on dreadhave questionable reputations or zero recent feedback.

I’d even pay extra to get it from a trusted US vendor, but even then it’s tricky. TopDog and
DrPurpleLove seem kind of promising, but I’d still need to test everything I get.

If you'll find anyone here credible than also let me know, cause I'm trying to get some.
/u/DrPurpleLove EU Vendor
1 points
1 month ago
Were here and available buddy if you have any question we will be pleased to answer it
/u/WaterTree 📢
-2 points
1 month ago
Both TopDog and DrPurpleLove are claiming S-enantiomer and pharma quality, so they're almost certainly either deliberately deceptive, or being misled by their suppliers. KetamineSpray and LappLisas are the only suppliers I've found in my week of searching I vaguely trust. KetamineSpray seems to be absent for a while since the closing of Arch, sadly. LappLisas told me they can only *probably* supply liquid ketamine vials, and they'd be quite expensive.

Every minute I spend on the dark web my mind continues to be further blown away by how low IQ it all is. How is there this whole section of Dread devoted to ketamine, but people can't even do some fucking reagent tests? How come it's not absolutely common knowledge at this point that almost all illicit "ketamine" sold is ketamine analogs, that they have distinctly different effects and a lack of human research behind them?

My mind continues to be blown. Anyone with a functioning brain and ounce of ethics, please chime in.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
4 weeks ago
"Both TopDog and DrPurpleLove are claiming S-enantiomer and pharma quality, so they're almost certainly either deliberately deceptive, or being misled by their suppliers." - any proof? why r u spreading fud? You didnt even try our product ( but we did offer it for free to test btw ). Creating new accounts an posting same shit about darknet vendors every day... not tired? Either you are working for someone or drugged your brains to zero. Go for a walk, touch the grass.
/u/DrPurpleLove EU Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago*
Dude stop drog realy. Before talking plz take out your finger from your ass and search a bit you have a search section on dread.

you go to our subdread /d/drpurplelove then you see a post about a customer who sent our product to a lab because in France you do that for free. /post/4256a1e2371303d1ad7e and on top of that you go on psychoactif website with the reference of the customer PSY254482 and you find our analyse on the website. For your info the website is a reference for labtest in the drug world in europe

Stupid junki go eat your shit instead of geting your mind blown as you said. you are the one with brain not functioning imo.

You have a 2 week acount and your first message is yes should i use pgp when talking to vendor or is it anoying? dude your new here wake up open your eyes and when you have real experience open your mouth like in all your life dont be the kind of guy talking without researching first you look dumb
/u/deathonator
1 points
3 weeks ago
possible to find a similar review for you LSD?
/u/hugepass 🍼
0 points
3 weeks ago
/u/WaterTree don't believe this vendor.
they ship 'real' product to a lab to bait people, then send RC/shit product. looku all those fake results are above the +80% purity and when other people recieved they get analogues!
so please please please don't trust those vendor who post 'false / fake ' labresults.
it's a scam
/u/DrPurpleLove EU Vendor
2 points
3 weeks ago
Your account as 3 hours old. another fake guy. dude you have lot of cardio to keep doing that everybody see what you do.
/u/wishuwerehere some account need to get ban.
Dread is realy starting to be a lot of baby account just spreading fud its sad
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
another fake baby bottle account created to spread FUD.
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
3 weeks ago
/u/hugepass: Oh don't worry, the way TopDogShop and DrPurpleLove are communicating in this thread should give anyone with a remotely functioning brain some pause. I've been repeatedly accused by people of making multiple accounts here by now too lol, one seemingly sane guy adjusted his opinion though and realized there may be some truth to my claims of the prevalence of RC dissociatives sold as ketamine in 2025. I have, by now, pretty much officially abandoned my search for ketamine, and decided that for the synergistic experience with psychedelics I'm looking for, using nitrous oxide a handful of times is a safer bet, even if it comes with its own issues. Maybe I'll stay away from dissociative entirely until ketamine just happens to fall into my lap. I'm tired of receiving these RCs from vendors and having to try and get refunds, it's not really worth all the stress involved. I get stressed having illicit stuff sent here in the first place. And the last times I received some, I felt the need to use gloves while even doing my reagent testing, because who knows if someone could have ended up with a mystery RC product that contains a high concentration of some ultra potent benzimidazole opioid or fentanyl analog. It's too sketchy of a substance to find. I did find one source who I believe is actually able to get pharmaceutical ketamine vials (not sure if for veterinary or human use) but is hinting at it being very expensive. He was selling what I think was UGL ketamine powder before, but hasn't been able to source it for a while. Just seeing how expensive his plausibly real UGL ketamine was gave me a good indication that for real ketamine, you should probably be prepared to pay premium dollar at this point. You can DM me if you want and I'll share his name, but of course I can't vouch for his credibility entirely. I can just say that the only vendor I bought something from (LSD, which appears accurately dosed and pure, but I am still awaiting lab confirmation) who seems credible and sort of decent suggested this guy to me as a potential source for ketamine. That and his high prices are about all I have to go off of. He also doesn't seem particularly eager to sell it, he's just like "yeah it will be stupid expensive you'll probably not want to bother", I guess that's another green flag compared to vendors sending out dirt cheap samples, at prices I feel really quite confident you can't get ketamine for now.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
Realy? I offered you try out our product - and you just responded "no thanks, your selling shit" without even trying it, spreading FUD on every post... and now you are playing a victim? You deserve the attitude you got. Honestly... whats your goal? Its obvious you are not here to find a solid vendor.
/u/DrPurpleLove EU Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
I think we are just waisting time the dude is realy high on drug even labtest is not enough for him.
He know ketamine more than a lab lmao never seen a such dumb guy
/u/DrPurpleLove EU Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
Lol ddude you realise how dumb you sound. even labtest from trusted lab dont fit you and you keep saying its rc.
Your realy high on drug wake up
/u/jethro23 MOD
1 points
3 weeks ago
Please stop spreading FUD about vendors

Having tried ordered from both /u/TopDogShop and /u/DrPurpleLove they both carry legit product
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
0 points
1 month ago
We have S-iso needle ketamine (red lable), PM me for free sample.
/u/WaterTree 📢
0 points
1 month ago
Sigh.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
4 weeks ago*
If i would know in advance that offering to a junky... sorry, not gonna happen again.
/u/WaterTree 📢
1 points
3 weeks ago*
Beyond your existing claims of product purity and S enantiomer, you are now adding the additional claim of not being willing to sell to people addicted to any of the compounds you sell them. That seems...doubtful lol.

But for whatever it's worth, I consider ketamine something to do maybe 10 times in a lifetime, not a great thing to get addicted to, even if you got the real thing, pharma grade and pure S.

EDIT: You guys all also seem to treat 1-2 grams of ketamine as a "sample" quantity. I consider that a lifetime supply. If you're actually health-conscious and far from addicted to such substances, that should last you a very long time.
/u/TopDogShop Vendor
1 points
3 weeks ago
"not being willing to sell to people addicted to any of the compounds you sell them. That seems...doubtful lol. " - where did this come from? We banned you from our service for being a dickhead.... People are free to try out our service and free samples :)