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So tired of feeling paralysed / not ready to start. : murderhomelesspeople | Torhoo darknet markets

This is just a rant to be honest.

I just hate that I'm always like "what if this" "what if that".
Like I'm trynna find custies but I'm worried about them ratting me out to their own dealers or just baiting me out
Or I'm worried about getting slid on by rivals.
I don't have a gun so it feels like I gotta be extra precautious

And it's hard to get one because i don't really know anyone who would trust me to sell me one. If I asked someone for one they're gonna think I'm a fed. Owning a gun is 5 years minimum, let alone supplying them.

Just so many things that seem to get in the way.

Then there's trying to find customers. Loads of people who go to clubs/partys but they aren't interested plus I don't want people knowing my face but it's hard to find customers without showing my face.

Weed is a pain as well. Only people buying weed in decent amounts are chavs or other dealers. Both are risky people to sell to.
There's normal people who smoke weed but they'll only buy draws because they can't really store it / aren't that bothered about buying more.
But most "normal" civilian type people don't really smoke it in the UK because a) it stinks b) it's seen as a dirty drug
And c) most civilians don't really even take drugs at all let alone weed. They might take MD or coke but it seems like a lot just stick to drinking and if they do take drugs it's only on weekends.

I want to establish a returning client base where I don't need to constantly find new faces or be selling tiny bits to everyone.

I know I can get bud for cheap. Not sure about coke idk if dnm coke is any good in the UK.
MD doesn't seem worth it because you can't take MD regularly plus I'm not in the rave/club scene
I would sell crack and H because at least the clienteles consistent but I just feel like they're gonna be coming to me with change asking for a .01 or something. But I don't have a crew or a gun so feel safer with party drugs and weed but even weed is kind of risky because the people buying weed are the same kind of people who sell crack/H or at least know people who do. I don't really want to fuck with people who are bad minded like that unless I got a gun.

Maybe I can have the same luck as teachuhow2trap when he said nobody robbed him because he had the best prices. I know I can get decent weed for like £100/z. But I still gotta worry about who I sell to because a lot of these people have family/friends who sell weed and even if I'm doing them a favour selling for the low, they gonna be loyal to their people and rat me out / try rob me because I'm competing with their peeps.

/u/Anon_Waslom

2 points

3 months ago

Maybe, just maybe, this is not your thing. If you do this you have your mind clear. Consider every existent risk and evaluate if it's worth it for you:
- You might end up in jail, are you willing to sacrifice your freedom in jail?
- Someone can get you in trouble, if you are not careful enough, your family|
- In any case you will have to manage stress daily, that "what if" will never got away, you will just get used to it.
If you are willing to accept that risks, I'd suggest you to:
1. Get to know the prices, steet prices, bulk prices
2. Find who are the dealers (even if it is just a weed dealer), via friends, via asking, whatever.
3. Consider who is the one you can trust the more out of them.
4. Give him a better price that what he's already paying for bulk, proof him more quality, if they don't sell what you want to sell, ask for a referall, if he gets you a nice client, you'll pay him a % of the first deal, then keep the contact with the one who bough from you.
5. Show him you care, ask him for user feedback, wait for him to need more
6. Mantain the selling relationship with that dealer. Maybe try doing some more referrals, but don't risk it anymore. Not worth it.

Good luck, and most importantly, please try to reduce harm for users. Sell what you say you sell. Don't be an asshole
- AW

/u/justaguy12314 📢

1 points

3 months ago

I'm willing to risk my freedom for the right price. Freedom is priceless but I'd still risk it if I knew there's a chance to make money and not get caught.
I'm also willing to put up with the stress of dealing if the money is right as well. Being broke is stressful too. Rather be stressed with money than stressed without money.

This is what I want to do - do clean business and network.
I'm willing to put in work. I've trapped before and it wasn't fun but I did it cuz I was never expecting it to be fun.
As long as the money is right I'll risk my freedom.

/u/dan245

1 points

3 months ago

Quit it and get a job bro

/u/budbros

1 points

3 months ago

fuck that shit. If you feel like this with it, it's best to stick to the legal route.

/u/justaguy12314 📢

1 points

3 months ago

If I had a gun I wouldn't feel so conflicted.
I'm not worried about letting it off it's the fact I don't have one so I'm worried about trouble coming my way and not being able to defend myself.

Hopefully I can do things the peaceful way like AW and teachuhow2trap talk about.
Or just stick to using a baseball bat or somthing but if someone comes at me I'm not gonna defend myself with a bat if they got a gun or outnumber me

/u/budbros

1 points

3 months ago

honestly man if you stick to a legal route like learning how to make money selling digital products and courses, you'd be so much better off. More than happy to give you advice and help you learn

/u/justaguy12314 📢

1 points

3 months ago

The course thing I never understood. Like trading courses.
Just can't imagine anyone buying them and if they were gonna buy them, buying them from me and not the 1000s of others out there.

I'm interested in whatever the money is at though. Whether that's crack, weed or a job. It's just that most jobs don't pay without years of training/experience and while I respect you got to put in the time I need to get paid before then lol

/u/budbros

1 points

3 months ago

it's a lot easier depending on the niche. For example a lot of people say supplements are a recession proof business so they create social media pages and make content about health or excercise, many get big enough in the first few months to make a good 1-4k a month off of that itself (sponsors, affiliate sales, platform monetization). Many of them are faceless channels too. But yeah I have never done trading or finance related topics. I figure those would be a lot harder to get people to spend money on.

/u/Anon_Waslom

1 points

3 months ago

Hey! Interested on the advice if you are willing to teach me.
I'll drop a PM

/u/TeachUHow2Trap Owner

1 points

3 months ago

Hey bro, listen. My advice is great and all but I don't have to worry about gangs and territory and shit. In the USA, it's just not really a thing anymore. Maybe very few places in Chicago, NYC, and Philly but even in those areas you would only have to worry about being a corner boy, nobody is running down random, non-affiliated drug dealers who sell in private. Maybe if you just kept poaching customers and flashing money and shit but I just can't see it.

/u/marshbad

1 points

3 months ago

bro your not built for dealing i see your future you get a gun cause your to pussy to be outside moving work and don't have enough street smarts to move around and not get robbed so best case you get caught with the strap and someone robs you beats the shit out of you and takes your gun because you def are not pulling the trigger some people are meant to be in the streets some are not... also if you know how to move around and talk to people you should have no problem getting a few consistent customers that can refer you to their friends that also smoke if you actually have a good connect for quality product for good prices the only that is gonna try to rob you is people that don't respect you... never sell to randoms and always control the enviroment you tell them where they are gonna meet you you tell them its changes at the last minute you do whatever you have to make sure you're safe and they have no control over you never get in your customers car's they get in you're car never meet multiple people in the same place ect ect... honestly you sound like you should just get a 9-5 bro your not built for this.

/u/justaguy12314 📢

1 points

3 months ago*

Bro I will gladly pull the trigger than get fucked up.
I'm not trynna kill them but I will shoot them in a non vital area

But you're right that it's better to not need one and yeah people should respect you but when someone comes ballied up it's not like I'm gonna be able to getback later on if I don't know who did it.

If I'm just selling to civs I'm not really worried about all that but if it's crackheads or other dealers then it don't help to be lacking although a gun isn't necessary it helps.

But like I said before I might be able to get by just on the basis that I'm someone they don't want to fuck over if I got product on the low for them.

I might just be overthinking it to be honest. I just made this because I was feeling frustrated about my situation and not really thinking clearly through it. Still, the drug game is known for people rolling on and hurting other people even the ones you trust...

/u/marshbad

1 points

3 months ago

ive known people that have sold over 100k worth of product in one shot and never in the 10 years he was dealing did he do a deal with a strap on him he had a stash house with guns but in US atleast you getting an extra 5 years if you get caught with a gun and drugs federally which he was at the scale that it would have been and by what i meant you wont pull the trigger i meant your not built for that type of dealing at best build a "friendship" with all your customer get a solid 15-20 of them a you can make a decent living if all of them at picking up 1-2 times a week

/u/justaguy12314 📢

1 points

3 months ago

if i was selling 100k of drugs getting 5 years for a gun would be my last worry lol

I agree that it's much more important to prioritize clean business/relationships. Not like you can just shoot a person every other week.

I'm thinking I should be ok. I'm only going to work with people who focus on money. Not roadmen or idiots like that. As long as they value long term profit over 1 small lick I should be good.

/u/marshbad

1 points

3 months ago*

EDIT: the 5 years thing im talking about is federal mandate but also in state charges you get a gun and drug charges your sentence is getting atleast doubled like the story bellow when my friend got caught with tree and a gun and got broke off by an angry judge when weed was still illegal its multiple years on top of any deal and doesn't matter the amount i knew someone that got a 3-8 year prison sentence for 2 zips of weed because he had a gun on him and a little over $800 mostly in 20's 10s and 5s and over 30 1's guns and drugs do go together but anyone that has been in the game and isnt a crack dealer does not need to be riding around with a gun i never got to 100k deal level but i was selling 2.5k packs of bars for $4000 and 3 pounds for $6000 one time biggest deal ive done was 8lb of tree for 15,000 greenhouse bud from norcal in another state in those 2 instances i did not carry a gun but i also had a follow car with me that my friend was in that could legally carry a gun (i could also at the time) but you cant carry drugs and guns at the same time even if you dont have a felony when you buy a gun you fill out a form saying you don't do illegal narcotics. so having someone you trust is very hard but i grew up with my buddy and he 1000% was down to do 10 years for me he did things for me that i can never speak about its better to having someone watching your back then you carrying a strap and drugs and getting popped with both and a 1-4 year charge changes to a 3-8 or a 5-12 believe me ive been in and out the game for over 15 years nothing good will come from being strapped up slinging get customers you can trust get bear mace, a can of police grade pepper gel spray and an auto assist knife all of those are legal if you dont have a felony and will not add on any charge if you get busted with them..

Like i said for big deals have atleast a backup car with a gun and if your transporting have a front car also and you be the middle car never have the product on you when you meet your customers maybe have a sample of what they want but not everything and just have it close by a phone call away someone wants a qp of tree show them a quarter oz of it let them see the quality once you have seen the money then and only then do you bring the product to the location your doing the deal same thing with blow xans xtc ect ect they want a half zip of yayo bring them a gram chipped off the 14 grams if they like the product and quality make the call..

Now i haven't always followed these rules ive sold 5lbs b4 and had a buddy sitting in the back seat with a Beretta sitting on his knee so the mexican i was selling to knew what time it was but like i said from the jump if your not wholesaling grossing 10k+ a week maybe 2.5-4k profit small time customers you should never have a gun on you and never have more product then needed unless your running a dial a dope operations and you got runners and your dropping 2 ounces at a time on them all 20/half-grams/full-grams balloon's...

so i got side tracked but yeah get quality customers one of my best customers makes $57 operating a drill and other shit putting in fiber optic cables he doesn't deal with anyone else shit i don't think he even has any other dealers and i can tax him and he's happy to pay you get 10-15 of people like that and you can make a decent living you wont be driving Bentley's but with customers like the one i just said they wont rush you they will always respect you always have your money and if your only selling weed/xans/acid/shrooms/xtc you probably will be fine because those are the type of customers that don't buy to resell so they wont be hitting you up everyday or every other day but they def will hit you up at least once a week and pay 1.5-2 times what a dealer would pay for pretty much the same amount and they don't look like junkies and stick out get you atleast 10 of those type of people always have 4-5 different substances ALWAYS on deck and make sure they know that you will always have those and if there is other drugs you can get them but dont sell fent/h/crystal even coke is not the best idea even with people like that and if they ever say its for a friend always only meet them never there friend DO NOT expand to quickly thats how ALOT of people get busted i know over 10 ppl that got out of prison and within 3 months were moving 2-3 pounds of tar a week and atleast 1-2 pounds of meth and guess what they blowed up quick but within a 14 months they were back in prison with a 4-10 prison sentence.

/u/bkz

1 points

3 months ago

If you think u need a gun to feel confident then you've already lost. All you're adding is an extra charge on ur sheet if you get caught. The most successful dealers I've seen don't even carry because theyre confident enough to go down swinging if needed and nobody fucks with em due to it. What are you gonna do if you manage to get one and someone robs it? Back to all the questions overthinking and not being certain not knowing what to do?

From this post I would say this isn't for u but if ur set on it then go for it but most of all don't touch the hard shit like H or crack to start thats a whole other ball game and you don't seem ready for it. If youre really set on this then go for some light shit. 99.9999999% of the time nobody is gonna rob you if you dont act like a victim or step on other peoples toes. That means turn ur overthinking off and remember u have pair of balls.

Safest market for u is prob psychedelic drugs but ur still gonna have to find a way to get customers but the ones u get are gonna be a lot better to deal with.