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So, you want to make your own SUCCESSFUL darknet marketplace... : CafeDread | Torhoo darknet markets

I've been around on the darknet for a while, with lots of market coming and going.
I see a lot of people asking how to create their own market, without them having any kind of coding/opsec/marketing knowledge.

So, that's why I created this checklist, for people who are interested in creating a dnm.
This checklist is not meant to discourage you, but rather let you know it is not just creating a website and expecting it to make thousands of dollars every week.

I have made my own market (/d/AtlasMarket), it took me almost 2 years to build the market.
So I do have some experience in this field.

Planning
/u/porkypig
3 points
1 year ago
Good list! /u/Giffie
There are a couple things on top of my head that are also very important that should be talked about
1. Location. where are you going to host the site? Do you want it? Self-contained another words all services and databases in the same location or do you want to distribute across multiple locations pros and cons of each? Also, if offsite, what's your early sign of compromise?

2. Secure backups. How do you create backups and safely? Send them to an offsite location, in cases of either the host going tit's up or so getting a hold of the physical box that the site is running on.

3. Multipurpose hosting. what is the best way to set up a website that looks totally legit, is on clear net selling I don't know car tires, and have on the back-end and onion market where the bulk of your business will be.

4. Exit strategy. markets don't live on forever could be because the staff retires wants to sell the business or unfortunately gets pinched in some cases. Either way I feel like every site needs and strategy to be able to safely transfer or nuke everything.

5. Contingency plan for example recently is Cypher. it is clear that there's no contingency plan if somebody gets "hit by a bus". If there was the staff would be able to maintain the website so as users can go on doing business or you safely put on things for on hold for a while also making sure that any funds due are not held up and released.

6. "Oh Shit" leaver. This is slightly different than the exit strategy in that this is a technical solution that everybody agrees with. I have said this on many of posts in my home looking the best way to have a oh shit lever to create basically a deadman switch. that switch can be powered by the bios and start to execute as soon as time is passed if the administrators or staff of the website, do not check in on the prescribed timetable. -- Checking in could be a simple text message phone call keystroke ..whatever. and it could be a simple as just making the hard drive is not readable or self-destruct scrambling all data and so on. Something like this is less scary when you were able to have a good secure, offside back up like I don't know a computer sitting in your second cousin's grandmother's basement.

Would be great to hear your feedback on these topics or if anybody else wants to chime in here.
/u/TheInfoMerchant
1 points
1 year ago
Great additions
/u/piezoofc
3 points
1 year ago
amazing guide !
/u/FokkingFire420
1 points
1 year ago
Nice post but can't ask for upvotes my guy
/u/bravo25 monkey man
1 points
1 year ago
I dont know who descored you but no reason for that, /u/FokkingFire42 is right and it is a site wide rule, you can be banned for this.
/u/Giffie 📢 Atlas Top Homie
1 points
1 year ago
I see, thanks for letting me know. I edited the post now :)
/u/Zunero
1 points
1 year ago
You forgot to mention the prior experience you must have before even developing a market lmfao

And not to mention... an insane amount of funding.

Fucking hell the two most important things and you forgot to mention those
/u/morimega
1 points
1 year ago
How much funding would you really need? let's say you know how to build it yourself, the money would be into marketing it and servers, that you could scale and pay more as you grow. I don't really see a huge upfront cost (besides time), but maybe I'm missing something?
/u/porkypig
1 points
1 year ago
Good talent costs money, exceptional talent costs a ton. figure in US dollars you're looking at about a year salary at about 200 K and that's mid range. until you start turning your profit, all that money comes out of pocket and you want more than one person to develop your site.

Any technical business adventure you always hire people they are much smarter than you. You put your confidence into to get it done right the first time and they be able to think through all the scenarios that require really high functioning technically and experienced brain to pull this off and this is not your roommate from college here, talking about employee folks that have at least 5 to 10 years in the industry have the core values regarding what you're trying to do and what the marketplace represents, which is basically a free market.
/u/Zunero
1 points
1 year ago
I've heard ballparks going from 50k for an average startup and some even 100k for successful ones.
/u/Giffie 📢 Atlas Top Homie
0 points
1 year ago
You forgot to mention the prior experience you must have before even developing a market lmfao

-> Of course, but this post is not made for people that already have prior experience. Everyone has to start somewhere.

And yes, maybe I did not mention it that obvious in the text, but you do need a good amount of money to be able to buy ads, keep your servers running, get listed on directories, ...
/u/Zunero
0 points
1 year ago
I mean prior experience to developing and programming. Every market admin has had a prior experience in the DarkNet, or otherwise your market would be null. Successful markets always come after an exit-scam or corruption obligations from investors.
/u/Satoshi1312
1 points
1 year ago
good luck with atlas market!
thx for this helpful post and your offer to help.
/u/jackroberts
1 points
1 year ago
- Make sure to buy enough servers with enough CPU and RAM, one server will not cut it.
You need one for backend, frontend (Endgame), Database, Monerod, Bitcoind, Git repo

This is not a good idea, it's best practice to use as few servers as possible. it's dangerous to spread each service on a server in one part of the globe.
/u/morimega
1 points
1 year ago
What if the one you have most of your "eggs" in is compromised? Wouldn't it be better to spread and isolate everything as much as possible? Why would it be dangerous?
/u/IwantToKillMyselfLOL
1 points
1 year ago
Fuck this ima give it a go
/u/TheInfoMerchant
1 points
1 year ago
Fantastic insights. Thanks for sharing this.
/u/miner21 P
1 points
1 year ago
Marketing and vendor loading are huge. If you can get people on there selling product, as well as letting a potential customer base know you have a new market, you are dead in the water.

Many markets are clunky when you first start but can be fine tuned as you grow. To grow you need business happening though
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
have you separated the frontend from the backend? and if so, do you make the requests through an api?
/u/Giffie 📢 Atlas Top Homie
1 points
1 year ago
I personally like to have them both together. As many frameworks do, like Ruby on Rails or Laravel.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
So the frontend and the backend together? I work with Laravel myself, but I don't know how to deal with endgame, because it recommends separating the backend and frontend.
/u/Giffie 📢 Atlas Top Homie
2 points
1 year ago
Oh you mean the endgame frontend & backend.
No, those should be seperated.

Take one smaller vps with like 3GB RAM & 3 CPU for the frontend, that should be enough.
The backend should be a larger VPS, depending on ur traffic.
/u/goldfinchh 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Indeed, an excellent guide, but how to expand and hire new employees (pr guys, devs etc.) in this case? Only those who are completely reliable and loyal to you are suitable for these roles.
/u/YanSoftware
0 points
1 year ago
running a market in 2024 makes zero fucking sense. You work for shitty 3-5% fee. You are getting ddosed and blackmailed all the time. If you grow big you have LEO breathing down your neck. Constant paranoia. If you get busted / de anonymized, you are facing years in prison. IF somehow you get to any significant revenue it's still not crazy money, but shit ton of work to keep the ball rolling and plenty of risk. Your only option is to exit scam or somehow keep doing this madness until you go crazy or get busted.
For example, a user sees a duck on the river and thinks the police have placed a camera in the duck to watch him.

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/u/YanSoftware
1 points
1 year ago
bot is right, that's exactly my point
/u/goldfinchh 🍼
0 points
2 weeks ago
- Make sure to buy enough servers with enough CPU and RAM, one server will not cut it.
You need one for backend, frontend (Endgame), Database, Monerod, Bitcoind, Git repo


But wait, if you will use only CSS (or TailwindCSS) for frontend, there will be no frontend server, isn't? Frontend server is usually created with NodeJS or something with JS.