Some archetyp vendors who had escrow listings now only offer DD deals. Attention to details!!! : Archetyp

6 points

1 month ago

Yeah, after an exit, this is VERY common. Vendors are trying to scam to recoup the cash and markets accept the flood of customers, just to exit scam as well because they realize they don't wanna be caught and they just got MILLIONS from vendor fees and the influx of customers.

I usually take a few months off from ordering after an exit/bust. Not worth the risk.

/u/1question

1 points

1 month ago

"I usually take a few months off from ordering after an exit/bust. Not worth the risk"
^This is the way^

/u/ChuckJones

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah, along those lines, I've always avoided the largest markets because of the scrutiny they fall under, as long as I can still reasonably find what I want. ASAP was awesome, and I liked Arch when I found it because it wasn't huge, but then it blew up... I'm not convinced competition works out well for buyers on large markets. It often isn't the cream that rises the top.

/u/thauma1

1 points

4 weeks ago

Yeah, once a vendor gets big, they either switch to FE and exit scam because it's not wise for them to operate under the same name for more than a few years, or just start selectively scamming people to reduce the volume of transactions they have to deal with, because that way they get all the money for much less work, and with the DNM there's always doubt on if packages are going to get through, so most people would chalk up their order to getting lost or seized and then not think about it twice.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

2 weeks ago

i switched to FE on all new markets i join if they dont give me the FE then i refuse to work there. and if i trust a market i do escrow sometimes if i trust a market. i got FE on mars market and vortex market and amazon market.
i dont believe in exit scams they piss me off and long term customers need to be taken care customers are the back bone of every vendor treat them good. unless they are rude then feel free to curse em out but if they are nice then be nice back.

/u/pwnd

1 points

1 week ago

100 the customers are what make these things viable!!

/u/drippinswagooooo 🍼

1 points

5 days ago

who does believe in exit scams?

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 month ago

Smart!

/u/TeachUHow2Trap

1 points

2 weeks ago

Hey Newbie, what did I tell them lmao. Abascus is now looking REALLY sus. We'll see what happens.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

2 weeks ago

You called it. I hope that Abacus truly is a temporary technical glitch.

/u/TeachUHow2Trap

2 points

2 weeks ago

Mr. Newbie, the second market got hit.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

2 weeks ago

Damn shame. I hope that newer markets are ready to up their game.

/u/TeachUHow2Trap

2 points

2 weeks ago

Only one I think is ready for the influx is probably DrugHub, only because they have previously ran a popular market and have experience in the field. Plus, they put a LOT of money in by buying out Super Market in the exit scam.

The other markets, I'm not sure. I think things will smooth out here shortly.

/u/mangopineapple

1 points

2 weeks ago

drug hub for buyers u dont pre deposit theres that at least lol

/u/TeachUHow2Trap

1 points

1 week ago

Oh shit, I didn't even realize that. Yeah, it will definitely be the next major market then.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

2 weeks ago

I hope so. If this is it for Abacus it will probably lead to at least short term chaos.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

1 week ago*

abacus was all about exit scaming you have to deposit funds on ur user account to buy anything its not walletless thats super annoying walletless markets are the new normal thing now abacus was to old school and there are alot better markets out there then abacus. there are plently of other markets out there right now plently of places for customer to go to. id recommend two markets vortex and mars both take bitcoin and xmr and if u want only a xmr market id recommend dark matter and black ops
and torzon has been around for a pretty long time they take bitcoin and xmr also so other markets still working and all there up times are 100 percent.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 week ago

Thanks for sharing.

/u/SatoruGojo

1 points

1 month ago

Never really thought about it this way. I'm gonna start doing this too. Def not worth the risk.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

3 days ago*

i just will mostly work on FE markets from now on i got a few markets that granted me FE if they dont give me FE = fuck them
after years in the game i have that right cause i am always shipping any market that refuses to give me FE thats a shady market cause i been around for years. i no longer wanna work on escrow for big orders. i had a customer recently sent him 600 bucks worth of stuff he didnt finalize the order and wanted me to give him 150 bucks off = thats the shit i deal with on escrow orders on big amounts thats bad manners

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

2 points

1 month ago

Thanks for diamond kind benefactor!

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

1 month ago

Out of curiosity did spaincartel had FE on Archetyp ? Somehow I doubt it since he was labeled as New Vendor but maybe you remember.

/u/maestrodutch P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

dont think so, bigboss did not give the FE to anyone any more, only to the vendors that whas at the begin of archetyp and then he said that to the one that have FE can keep it but he will not give it to other vendors any more, i raeded something about that in a post on the archetyp forum

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

1 month ago

That's what I thought. They did offer FE but after some crazy requirements like 1000 sales on the market or so iirc.

/u/maestrodutch P Vendor

2 points

1 month ago

i hade 4500 sales on it but bcs they did not offer FE any more no one could get it any more, it whas like 2-3 after he opend he removed the FE, but yeah i dont like to have the FE, its always better to use escrow, then the client will feel more comfortble with it, yes escrow is a higher risk as vendor if the market get seized or exit scam, but that is just part of the game

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

1 month ago

IMO if a vendor qualifies for FE they can have both FE and Escrow listings and let customers choose, from what I have seen FE listings are slightly cheaper than escrow ones. By the end of the day it's up to vendors to decide how and where to run their business.

/u/maestrodutch P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

oh i tought if it will be FE then it will always be FE, but now i see that the escrow and FE can be avaible at the same time, yeah then its good, puting FE listing cheaper then escrow is also a great marketing strategy, thx for the info ; )

/u/dreadprivateroberts

0 points

3 days ago

thats not how it works if you want FE you have to prove you have FE on other markets that are currently still online so they can go see and double check that you got FE somewhere.

/u/Tre + 3

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah i've noticed DH does this but the discount usually isnt even worth the FE to be honest. It's like a $10-$20 price difference.

One thing i wish DH would do is make it easier to search for vendors. Overall great market & glad to have you all still around. I just feel like a piece of me is missing without Archetyp. Long Live Arche

/u/DrugHub P

2 points

1 month ago

Oh we do not set prices, vendors set prices. What we do is show our fee (5% now) to the customer, customer always pays the fee because vendors add market fees on top of their product price, we are just being transparent about it.

Except for common sense rules we don't interfere much with vendor's business, pricing is their choice but vendors usually offer discounts for FE listings, some customers like that some don't. In fact there are customers who would never purchase anything without escrow. It's a mixed bag and we have to accommodate all situations.

Yeah Archetyp did raise the bar and unwittingly made this transition easier.

/u/Tre + 3

1 points

1 month ago

Either way we still have DH. Glad you all are alive and well and that you have a known solid team. Wishing you all the best.

/u/spacetime24870 🍼

1 points

3 weeks ago

archetyp raised the UI bar but tbh DH's encryption features are clearly superior, more reminiscent of WHM, and the invoice-based payment is yet another step up. I hope you keep your shit together and manage to retire in however long outside of LE custody.

/u/gr8w8

1 points

4 weeks ago

maestro send my godamn order from 28 days ago!

/u/maestrodutch P Vendor

1 points

4 weeks ago

you are keeping sating this shit man, i dont understand why your are texting me here instead of the market when it whas still up, if you a client message me on the market with not received order, i will reply back asap and look what happend and then see what the solution is for the order, you said that you texted me and did not help you so it makes no sence to me to believe you at that point

you posted in this post from one week ago that i did not ship your order from 25 days ago: /post/12d5df0fce0bb7f6eb92/#c-946d7ac980aef18b1d

and now you say its 28 days ago, since when is 7 days 3 days???

if this whas even true then it should be 1 month and 1 day by now according your bullshit comment

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 month ago

I assume that he was escrow due to his flair but I could be mistaken and it changed without my catching it.

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah all good anyway. Thanks.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 month ago

Sure thing.

/u/CocaineAddict

1 points

1 month ago

He had it towards the end. One listening which was cheaper 28g coke had FE.

The normal listenings did not have FE until the end I could choose FE or not. One time normal listening had FE.

Gonna make a big order with him without escrow wish me luck. If anything goes wrong ill be crying on the whole dread.

/u/mistermista

1 points

1 month ago

I chose to FE for him despite not ordering from him before. Still received my product :)

I wouldn't say it's the best coke though, definitely cut with something but it's still relatively good compared to some I've had!

/u/DrugHub P

1 points

1 month ago

Oh he did ? Thanks

/u/testerjoe1

1 points

1 month ago

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/u/DrugHub P

0 points

1 month ago

They lost money just like many other vendors and customers, I don't find it odd they are pushing for FE.

/u/GENERALARCHETYP

0 points

1 month ago

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/u/DrugHub P

0 points

1 month ago

I know he is 100% legit but I was asking about FE and I was asking newbie.

/u/GENERALARCHETYP

-1 points

1 month ago

Jajajajajajajajaja okey so maybe better ask directly;)

/u/TranslucentZ

1 points

1 month ago

Be very careful scammers everywhere in every crack and corner right now on the prowl.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 month ago

Very true. They look for every opportunity and vendors in transition is perfect timing.

/u/iwantanswersnow

1 points

1 month ago

well said newbs. this is something i have been telling all my brothers and sis in the opiate thread. i see lots of migrations to DD but its so hard to trust anyone, not every vendor is bad but there is def bad ones out there that will burn you for your hard earn buck. coiple good ones tho . thanks for your heads up always. much appreciated

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 month ago

Thanks for the kind words. I hate when buyers lose their coin.

/u/snowbunni P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

I knew you weren't gone! :D

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

2 points

1 month ago

Sad that we the lost the others though.

/u/snowbunni P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

Moment of silence.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

2 points

1 month ago

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

/u/RXChemist111 P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

Why do you all place more trust in markets than in vendors? If a vendor has gained FE privilege, it signifies their legitimacy, and it requires a significant amount of hard work to attain that status.

/u/r0cc0 Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

This is true!
I have been a vendor for many years on all the big markets. I worked very hard on getting good feedback and making sure my clients are satisfied with my service and product.
Because of this I get FE privileges on every new markets I apply to.
I made a small amount of sales on Abacus but put my account on vacation mode for the past two years because I had way more traffic on Archetyp and my own vendorshop.
Now that Archetyp is gone I need to get my account on Abacus up and running, that's very hard when new costumers see you only had a couple sales and don't offer Escrow.
I don't like to use Escrow because in the past MANY people have scammed me this way. I hope people can understand that having FE privileges means you are a legitimated seller that worked hard to get to that point.

/u/RXChemist111 P Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

Same here, We are in same boat. This is what exactly I am going through.

/u/r0cc0 Vendor

1 points

1 month ago

I've made all my listings with 50% FE. Hopefully this makes a new costumer more willing to buy.
It's a good thing Abacus also shows external feedback from other markets but unfortunately it's not up to date at all right now.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

2 weeks ago*

the abacus admin exit scammed .... hes a dead man if he gets caught ill make a few calls to my people in the jails doing time he will be raped everyday and beaten and whatever sentence he gets doesnt matter he be getting out in a body bag for robbing our gang. to many exit scams lately we will send the message anyone that does exits better not get caught ever cause even if its years down the road we will remember you will be raped / beaten / youll be eating ur lunch off the floor like a rat.. what we did to the incognito admin and still doing... ill paint you a picture ... raped everyday / beaten / slapped around like a bitch he eats off the floor like a rat. and ya hes in jail over seas but we got reach world wide.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

2 weeks ago

Whoa Nelly! He just posted yesterday. Too soon to call exit scam.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

4 days ago

i turned out to be right it deff a exit scam now :) hes gonna be raped and beaten and eating off the floors ... calling all gangs out there when he is found lets make jail a nightmare from him. yard time for him will be beat down everyday.
i hope the 300k he stole was worth getting raped over.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

4 days ago

I think that you might be getting ahead of yourself. There is no evidence that he was busted. He could be sipping drinks with little umbrellas counting his money right now.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

4 days ago

empire market didnt get busted when they exited but they still got found last year they followed the money it was like alot of money they made so they are awaiting trial. so as they get in jail. they will be butt raped everyday. they owe me 10k i wont forget that shit ever i got a good memory.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

4 days ago

I was not aware that they were found out last year. Hmmm, imagine that cruising around in your hot car, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind, and then kersplat, game over.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

5 days ago

i heard the admins of empire market were found LOL they owe alot of vendors money from there exit scam when they get to jail we are gonna rape them beat them and kick them they will be eating off the floor.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

4 days ago

But will it still be good quality food?

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

4 days ago

ya jail quality we dont wanna starve them to death we wanna keep them alive so they can be abused everyday.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

4 days ago

Homeless man knocking on gate.
Guard: What do you want?
Man: It's rough out here, starving.
Guard: Get a job.
Man: Can't you just let me stay?

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

3 days ago

i really dont understand homelessness in america any homeless person could just get some cocaine and sell it if they end up in jail oh well thats better then the streets you get 3 square meals a day. fuck it why not.
step one to combat homelessness get some cocaine pick a street corner and work that corner. recuirt other homeless people make a crew and run shit. homelessness is a choice theres always opportunities to make a buck

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

3 days ago

The irony >> /d/murderhomelesspeople

/u/Saltbutter

1 points

1 day ago

You ever heard of the saying "go in with 5 and end up serving 20", yeah money rules the world and unless you have that in order for any and every situation no one is looking at jail as "oh well thats better then the streets". I know this must be a joke but I couldn't help myself.

/u/dreadprivateroberts

1 points

4 days ago

i sent out all my orders on archetyp even after i knew it went down and wasnt coming back and at the mail box i took a moment of silence and said it was a hell of a run. i sent out 50 letters to people.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

4 days ago

Very honorable of you.

/u/Saltbutter

1 points

1 day ago

Yeah after years of FE with one particular vendor it only took one time to be fucked over by them I will not deal without escrow again. The end user is always the one at the mercy of those making things happen and I hate for a vendor to wait for their funds to be released DNM is not what it used to be at all. I'm not trying to struggle to keep a little personal stash because someone decided to steal. Vendors shouldn't have a problem with this either unless someone is ordering a very highly priced piece of inventory from their store then I can understand the need for some type of compromise.

/u/newbieforever2018 📢 P An obsolete form of chief

1 points

1 day ago

I have always told vendors that they should put a mental ceiling on how high they will allow escrow to go thereby limiting any potential loss from a market. Escrow too high? Go on vacay mode until it drops. Warn buyers that those not finalizing shortly following receipt of orders will be blacklisted. Sure, some potential sales could be lost but better than losing funds already earned.

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