Sponsoring Lab Testing : AvengersReborn | Torhoo darknet markets
Hey y'all! I'm interested in sponsoring some testing, but don't know how to get testing done myself and quite frankly don't have the time or the interest in the logistic details of sending it off etc.. I trust this group, so curious who'd be willing to make some orders and send them off for testing? I was chatting with
https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlNHRnljbmxFZFc1dQ==# and I'd be willing to send some XMR to cover the the test costs and shipping and also for a small sample, enough to send off for testing and for the person to keep for themselves as "payment" for taking care of the logistics of getting the tests done. How much of a sample is required to send to get an accurate test? Like if I covered the cost of 2g or something would that then be enough for the person to send 1g to the lab and keep 1g for themselves? Or does the lab need a larger sample?
Posting this here, rather than DM a bunch of different people, but I'll be honest this offer's really only available to a handful of the regular posters here, I'm not going to just send a couple hundred in XMR to a random wallet address of just anyone.
I am all about the data and harm reduction, so this is much appreciated.
This is the testing protocol I am doing going forward to cover the full gambit of and create an SOP for getting the full understanding of a listing.
1) 50-100mg is needed for the lab protocol Labs and Shipping is roughly $150.00
2) 2g for two weeks 1 per week for the tester to understand bioassay, also noting they aren't intermingling samples especially on the same day.
3) 2x2g for A+B purification to run two separate extractions and re-salts to see the behavior and changes to the listing, how much of a vast improvement is there between initial to purified.
I think it could be a mix too, where someone buys a listing and an authorized tester can receive the funds to order the labs.
I have done this out of my own pocket, I took the opportunity to send off QCP's initial sample provided for testing, so I should have that back in a week or so.
I think we should take our time to discuss an acceptable SOP, because I get you, I would be hard pressed to want to send a random wallet funds, not knowing where it's going. I work long hours so I am not going to just toss money around aimlessly.
Like they always say, it takes a village, and I think we are on the right track here.
I'm not sure I totally follow what you're describing with 1,2,and 3. are 2 and 3 things the tester would do on their own? and 1 would be sent off to a lab? In my mind, sending off to a real lab would be sort of the gold standard and what I'd be looking to sponsor. My understanding is those sort of at home testing methods are good but not as accurate as the lab testing. But happy to be convinced otherwise! Y'all know a lot more than me and I'm still trying to learn.
If sending off a sample to lab is the gold standard/most accurate, is there a need for any other kind of testing? I know 1 the cost of the testing and 2 the time it takes to ship internationally + get the sample processed and tested once it arrives can be a pain, but I'm open to covering the first one and don't mind waiting a bit for the second one. There's a handful of members here that I'd trust to send some funds to, enough to cover 1g - 2g, shipping cost, & lab test cost for a few samples from different vendors. I'm sure we could develop something more complicated where the funds go to escrow or something until the test results get publicly released etc and maybe that's where we go eventually, but for now I'm open to blindly sending funds and trusting the person to follow through (at least for certain members). I'd post publicly that I'd sent the funds and the person would public agree to the plan, so we'd know who was supposed to be posting test results. I think we'd want to make the orders as anonymous as possible though so the vendors don't know which orders are being tested to ensure a true representative sample.
Thoughts?
My tisms sit sometimes like a festering itch, and my brain won't stop until I figure something out that doesn't make sense, similar to why I couldn't get past why there were no truxillines showing up on tests.
Why I go beyond a simple purity check
Most folks only want to know “Is it clean and how strong is it?”—and a single 50-100 mg GC/LC-MS lab screen answers that. I’m chasing the next layer: why two 90 %‐pure batches can feel worlds apart. Think of the old indica vs. sativa debate: on paper they look identical, yet one knocks you out while the other sparks you up. Matt Hill told Andrew Huberman that’s all “expectancy bias,” but my double-blind work keeps proving otherwise. Here’s the workflow:
1) Lab screen (safety baseline).
Ship a pinch to an accredited lab to log purity and adulterants. If that’s all you care about, stop here.
2) Raw-batch (blind bioassay) (~1 g).
A helper codes the vials; I sample them exactly as received—smell, taste, everything. This diary captures the real-world “racy vs. mellow” profile. BP/HR Stats
3) A/B purification #1 (2 g, not blind).
I solvent-wash and re-salt a duplicate set, then retest knowing which is which. Purpose: see how the ride changes once odors and volatiles are stripped away.
4) A/B purification #2 (another 2 g, fully blind).
Same wash/re-salt, but this time the helper shuffles the vials so I (or other volunteers) sample them blind. With smell, taste, and labels neutralized, any remaining differences must be driven by trace chemistry—not expectation.
5) Cross-check all diaries against the lab sheet.
This lets us map specific minor alkaloids or residual solvents to effects like “heart-pounder” vs. “mellow float,” building a real chemistry-to-experience database.
6) Vac-sealed reference samples (2 & 3) go back into the matrix for future comparison along with any potential aging interactions
End result: as thorough of a set of data attempting to delve in to what really makes one batch euphoric and another jittery—removing expectancy bias altogether.
So again, this is something I am doing because of the complete and utter lack of information available out there, some folks are just interested in #1.
I am starting off with the AddyExpress Peruvian, which I have already have initial results and enough material to run a full study on, but will do this slowly to make sure the data collection is sound.
Happy to discuss further.
This will be my last batch of tests for awhile.
Much Love
-HD
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